Underdog story is very confusing, especially for new players. Its also stupid and uninteractive, one of my least favorite cards ive seen on the top cards.
@sev50325 жыл бұрын
8 Mana Draw a card omegalul
@mrquastenegger63665 жыл бұрын
And I think the wording is also wrong. The spell itself does not deal damage. The spell may cause Fatigue and the fatigue effect causes the damage.
@heroricspiritfreinen385 жыл бұрын
"hard to understand" Me: this is why Blizzard don't give us new things, because they think we're idiots because of people like ^^
@justanoman64975 жыл бұрын
From what I was "told", that's the purpose of higher rarity cards: not more powerful, but more complicated. It's not like every card functions exactly as expected all the time....
@Rollerrot5 жыл бұрын
I prefer the legendary that caused your next fatigue to be negated and converted into a spell that deals that damage to a character previously. Instead just 2 Mana win the game after playing something like reckless fury to dump your excess armor. The wording also not clear at all with a simple first glance. Edit: I said a different class card for a first turn otk. But I'm dumb. Was thinking drawing into flame Leviathan after coining out underdog story to kill a 1 health 1 drop.
@oleglukichov20375 жыл бұрын
I think underload could be remade as a forbidden spell, something like "spend all your mana. The first card you play next turn costs that much less" That WOULD be a completely different card, plus out of class flavor, but I think it's a bit more playable
@pineberry48455 жыл бұрын
Reducing mana still fits the shaman flavour in my opinion. We have cards like far sight and thing from below.
@oleglukichov20375 жыл бұрын
@@pineberry4845 then I suppose it's fine. I just thought having it in rogue with something invest- or banky would fit better, but now that I think about it, rogue could abuse this more. Anyway, thanks for the feedback!
@max-ii9kd5 жыл бұрын
And very op
@Zersetzor5 жыл бұрын
One could use the same wording to emulate the original card. Make it something like 0 mana: "The first spell you cast next turn costs X mana less". The numbers could be changed to balance it of course. Alternatively, the card could add coins to your hand. Then one might make it more impactful, since players would have to pay attention to their hand size. Something like 0 mana: "At the start of your next turn, add X coins to your hand." Again, X would have to be figured out to be balanced. One could even make them "Unstable Coins" that are discarded at the end of the turn.
@oleglukichov20375 жыл бұрын
@@max-ii9kd could you please elaborate your opinion?
@GoddamitJmie5 жыл бұрын
For those that dont know , Mr Bigglesworth is actually a card in the game , only playable by playing an Animal Companion while fighting Kel Thuzad during the Naxaramas expansion
@Szobiz5 жыл бұрын
lol. what a troll. and he rated it so badly
@Skullhawk135 жыл бұрын
Arron O' Neill it’s got permanent stealth too so it’s great with dinomancy
@Steampunk_Wizard5 жыл бұрын
Underdog story should instead read: Draw a card. Overkill: deal this damage to your opponent instead. You can still win the game with it by taking a large amount of fatigue damage, but only if your opponent is already rather weak. Edit: I agree with the idea that the card text would be very confusing to new players. "Draw a card. Lethal fatigue damage is dealt to your opponent instead" or "Draw a card. If fatigue damage would kill you, deal it to your opponent instead" are more explicit. Just comes down to what fits on the card.
@arifridwanabriyanto92865 жыл бұрын
Awesome
@iTechSavvyOfficial5 жыл бұрын
SteamTheWizard great idea!
@BizChupaChups5 жыл бұрын
Cool man
@gabriellarena22565 жыл бұрын
That would be perfect, and even if its too weak it could read: Draw a card. Overkill: deal double of this damage to your opponent instead
@Aeivious5 жыл бұрын
The text would still be extremely unclear. Drawing a card does not cause damage, fatigue does. The wording implies that simply drawing a card deals damage, also with this wording you'd still technically have to die in order for overkill to activate. It'd be extremely unfriendly to new players.
@RazorOfArtorias5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for giving credit to the designer on the bottom of each card! Glad you liked The God That Crawls.
@TheArmyofHades5 жыл бұрын
God that crawls is one of those cards that blizzard should print asap
@davidstreet11835 жыл бұрын
LotFP fan?
@RazorOfArtorias5 жыл бұрын
A bit :)
@chaosmastermind5 жыл бұрын
That Twisted Ironbark card should be a Treant to make that archetype suck less.
@mikehunt34265 жыл бұрын
people really underestimate that deck, ofc its not a meta breaking deck but i absolutely shit on hunter and combo decks. It got me from rank 12 to rank 5 with like 3-4 losses
@Nukepositive5 жыл бұрын
let's see how it is after the rotation. I think it'll get better on its own.
@CityState_of_Valletta5 жыл бұрын
But Treats are a token not a tribal subtype and I think they plan on keeping it that way. Ancients, Ironbark, Rotten Applebaum, etc. If bliz made that change then Dendrologist would be very happy.
@digiquo81435 жыл бұрын
@@CityState_of_Valletta I personally don't see why Treants can't become a full on Tribe. Elementals were also just a thematic thing until Un'goro rolled in and made them a tribe with some pretty major synergy. While Druid should obviously have most of the treant synergy, I think it'd be worth making some neutral treant cards that any class can take advantage of and use effectively.
@CityState_of_Valletta5 жыл бұрын
@@digiquo8143 For whatever reason Blizzard settled on treats being 2/2 tokens (though with different arts) that are obtained in game by only spells / other minions; not included in deck building directly. That's kind of cool and unique in its own way (like how Wisps are always 0 mana 1/1s) but yeah a new tribal type showing up would be cool and help the archetype and also make more sense than clearly treant-looking dudes being typeless.
@miniusername20825 жыл бұрын
Mouseketeers can be made a legendary, with additional custom art for each character, like dopplegangster. As a class legendary it is not that overpowered imo.
@Menosh5 жыл бұрын
Perhaps they're three different legends, and they're part of an event so you can earn them simultaneously and can't disenchant them?
@herbster123455 жыл бұрын
@miniUsername I actually thought of this change myself as a great way to balance the card, allows it to keep all the flavour the author intended. Yes it provides that big swing but as a legendary I think that's fine since it's just for one turn (e.g. N'zoth, Guldan, Post-nerf Shudderwock)
@0IIIIII5 жыл бұрын
That is why your opinion doesn’t matter and will never matter
@Menosh5 жыл бұрын
@@herbster12345 I mean, it being a three-card combo is the main balancing factor. 3 mana 5/5 rushes are potent, but since you have to draw and play all three, it keeps in line. Plus, if one dies, the other two lose the buff
@herbster123455 жыл бұрын
@@Menosh I see what you mean but I feel like since new players have to own all three copies for it to even work just doesn't seem like something blizzard could make. And even then, would probably still be too weak since it takes up 3 deck slots and actually costs you three cards to play on the turn. Edit: Just read your proposal to make them part of an event. Makes more sense 😂 still, point remains that it'll take up three deck slots for one decent turn
@chrisjason76075 жыл бұрын
(3) Animal Companion: *Summon a 4/2 Huffer* *and Mr Bigglesworth*
@justsomerobloxvids17915 жыл бұрын
Chris Jason (9) Call Of The Wild: *Summon a 4/4 with Taunt, a 4/2 with Charge, and a 2/4 with “Your other minions have +1 Attack”. Summon Mr. Bigglesworth.
@andrewjohnson88705 жыл бұрын
I think friend builder is fine, as the frozen one can only attack turn 4 if played turn 2
@TheEiric5 жыл бұрын
I see we both have mustache pikachus. I actually used to use that one until i found my current one
@spysideways78245 жыл бұрын
But you will have extra 2/2 minion ready to attack and full mana on turn 4.its op.
@masonawsomepants38615 жыл бұрын
What if the card were a 2 mana 1/1 with battlecry “create a frozen 2/2 friend”? I think it also adds more flavor than a friend builder making another friend builder.
@bagorngo5 жыл бұрын
It's still 4/4 on board that your opponent inevitably has to deal with. Probably the best solution would be to make it a 3 mana card. We got Hyldnir Frostrider, which is a 3 mana 4/4 with Battlecry: Freeze your other minions. This would be the same thing, but less value on an empty board and more on a wide board.
@Junebug895 жыл бұрын
Yeah so you get a big power spike on turn 4. Helps set up fungalmancers etc. I dunno...
@Alby3795 жыл бұрын
Underdog story is a card that can be used in a deck made for it, but also as a secondary win condition... It's OP
@Skullhawk135 жыл бұрын
Alby379 official channel and it’s not like 2 mana draw a card is entirely unplayable
@Canlovefrogs5 жыл бұрын
i think instead of removing the part of mousketeer that actually makes it unique, you could easily balance it by making it a legendary. Restricting your deck to one copy of it should balance out that fact that for 9 mana you are getting above average stats and if played well a fairly good swing turn (which rewards good players). plus it doesn't necessarily play into any of warriors existing archetypes, so its kind of a breath of fresh air. I honestly think its fairly good design.
@0IIIIII5 жыл бұрын
Hunter Scheck no one cares about your stupid opinion
@AifakhYormum5 жыл бұрын
@@0IIIIII Nigga you cringe af
@spookie10245 жыл бұрын
Hunter Scheck nah dude rush warrior is like solid tier 2
@Canlovefrogs5 жыл бұрын
@@spookie1024 ya, but even then i havent played against a rush warrior since the start of the expansion.
@KuroroSama425 жыл бұрын
There aren't that many spells that summon minions in Hunter?!?!? Literally half of their playable spells do that! Just look at spell hunter's list... wandering monster, animal companion, flanking strike, spellstone and to my side are pretty much always run. Then you have other optional includes like bomb toss, revenge of the wild, snake trap, venomsnake trap, rat trap, unleash the hounds and baited arrow. Now of course Mr. Bigglesworth doesn't fit in spell hunter, but you could make a deck that uses mainly minion-summon spells. You could easily average 4+ cats per game, even counting the late cats.
@digiquo81435 жыл бұрын
Replace a Candleshot with Bigglesworth and you'd still manage to draw him over 20% of the time (21.9% to be exact) on turn 1 when going first and if you mulligan your entire hand. This figure obviously goes up if you're going second. You don't even need to do this to still run him in a Spell Hunter deck though. There are only 3 cards in Spell Hunter that actually require you to not have minions in your deck, 2 copies of To My Side and Rhok'Delar, and none of them are played reactively unless you are out of answers, so you can afford to stall and wait to use them until you draw Bigglesworth, at least for a while.
@Eragonnogare5 жыл бұрын
Friend builder is not just a 2 mana 4/4, the frozen one would have to wait 2 turns to attack, which would be a big delay in the value and give lots of time to remove it or have it incidentally die to a board clear.
@OnEiNsAnEmOtHeRfUcKa5 жыл бұрын
I think everyone here seems to be missing the obvious fact that Underload is *INTENDED* as an inverted parallel to Overload, which means that it _would_ be able to put you above 10 mana, presumably by "charging" one of your Mana Crystals the next turn in the same way that Overload "locks" one. Is this mechanic in the game? No. Could it be? Sure. Does it make the card any better? Not really.
@riccardodellorto42675 жыл бұрын
You can play a maligos if it was freezing trapped
@masterplusmargarita5 жыл бұрын
Ebb and Flow is a cool idea, but I'd argue it might be a bit too strong. 3 Mana Deal 4 *To A Minion* is Shadowbolt, which is a card that sporadically sees play, and 3 Mana Heal 8 is Healing Touch, which admittedly has never seen any play. Still, this means that both modes of Ebb and Flow are strictly better than already-existing class cards, plus it has the added advantage of flexibility. I don't think it'd break the meta or anything, but it's just a tad too strong for comfort I think.
@Eater655 жыл бұрын
Well here’s the thing you can shadowbolt on any turn. You can healing touch on any turn. You cannot ebb when you gotta flow, and you cannot flow when you gotta ebb. I’m not saying it’s a bad card because it’s a good card. But sometimes you want damage but oops it’s an even turn and you are out of luck
@riccardodellorto42675 жыл бұрын
Healing rain is better and costs 3, so i think that the healing part is ok. Shaman has a card 4 mana deals 4 and restore 4 health, so i think that also the deal 4 dmg is ok
@dn2724 жыл бұрын
healing touch is a druid card and shadow bolt is a warlock card. In hearthstone, cards are balanced around each individual hero, so you cant take cards from other classes and directly compare them so directly as you did here
@ondrejkubik70335 жыл бұрын
The underdog Story is really problematic with reckless flurry
@tevenbenn31755 жыл бұрын
Here's my fix for Mr. Bigglesworth: Make it's effect Start of game, but add a single 0 mana 0/1 Hairball to your deck
@exLightningg5 жыл бұрын
I think you underestimate how many hunter spells summon minions, Here's a list. (All Standard cards) Animal Companion Baited Arrow Bomb Toss Flanking strike Unleash the Hounds Emerald Spellstone Revenge of the Wild To My Side Flark's Boom-Zooka Unsure if these would work but they do end up summoning minions: Venom Trap Wandering Monster Rat Trap Snake Trap Play Dead - If you use it on a Deathrattle that summons something which is typically what it's used for.
@mbubu885 жыл бұрын
To be honest it would be an ok and not overpowered card - Trump is too harsh here imo... 1) Only 6 of these "Summoning minions - Spells" are currently played , 2) It itself is a legendary so no easy access though packs, 3) It balances itself harshly when not drawn early like Trump considered - Definitely a downside , 4) Your second suggestion with all the secrets and stuff wouldn' t count because im pretty sure the minions have to be directly summoned by the spell, not somewhat later when a secret gets proct or a deathrattle triggered because these spells summon minions "indirectly" ;)
@digiquo81435 жыл бұрын
@@mbubu88 Not drawing something isn't really a good indicator of balance. The card itself is just a 1/1, so it's too easy to just swap it with another 1 drop like Dire Mole for almost no drawback. And now Hunter has a fuck ton of ways of fetching specific cards from his deck with smart deck building, so it's not even that difficult to build your deck specifically to draw it. Hell, you could make a normal Spell Hunter deck, swap out a Candleshot for Bigglesworth, and more often than not you would still be able to draw Bigglesworth before you would absolutely have to play To My Side or Rhok'Delar to avoid losing board control or even the game.
@mbubu885 жыл бұрын
@@digiquo8143 Yeah ok the tutor effect kinda pushes this card in Hunter...didn't thought about it i'll give you that! :) But still...hmm i dont really see a problem with this card compared to something like "Patches" although it gets summoned more often...guess one have to experience the influence of this card to the game but that would likely not happen ^^
@mbubu885 жыл бұрын
And thinking of that, on top of that: Would you really ruin some extreme spell synergys like the legendary weapon or "To my Side!" by playing cards like "Stitched Tracker" or "Witchwood Piper" in your deck to tutor Bigglesworth...don' t really think :/
@digiquo81435 жыл бұрын
Mulliganing your entire opening hand gives you a 22% chance to draw Bigglesworth immediately. Those odds improve significantly if you're going second. You could also just run a copy or 2 of Master's Call to guarantee you draw him more often.
@MrDavidNichols5 жыл бұрын
The bird in the hand card does exactly fit the idiom, because the idiom is not 'hand vs bush' it's 'certainty vs potential' so the bush in the saying is the hand in the card as both are potential value
@Szobiz5 жыл бұрын
which is sad because 'hand' will always be involved, and meaning the opposite in the game and in the saying
@Krasser_Crusader5 жыл бұрын
The God that crawls... Im not sure, because I've never read a book of him (Amazon is too slow), but I think thats a creature of the stories from H. P. Lovecraft.
@ljlarrea5 жыл бұрын
Mister Morton Not lovecraft.... there’s nyarlathotep also called the crawling chaos?
@byrondejong98725 жыл бұрын
Thx to a thing called google it seems to be based off a Fantasy rpg like D&D that Trump played with Dungeon Master Steven Lumpkin on the channel Misscliks
@Krasser_Crusader5 жыл бұрын
@@ljlarrea Yeah l, thats right. Ive got a book thats called "S. Petersens Bestimmungsbuch der unaussprechlichen Kreaturen". There are a lot of creatures from Lovecraft in it, like Nyarlathotep or Yogg Soggoth. But the thing is, that it isnt completed. This creature could be a shoggoth, or some over sort of thing I dont know about...
@RazorOfArtorias5 жыл бұрын
My source was: "Augustine was dug up by the conspirators and taken to a church that they had taken over near Dover. Unholy rites were performed, transforming Augustine into a thing of terror: The God that Crawls. The creature was then dumped into the catacombs below the church to live out the rest of its days." - Lamentations of the Flame Princes Adventures - The God That Crawls by James Edward Raggi IV
@Krasser_Crusader5 жыл бұрын
@@RazorOfArtorias Interesting. A lot of other writers added stories to the cthulu myth from Lovecraft. Is this one of them? I could imagine that it is, but I want to be sure
@starluigi7675 жыл бұрын
Why do custom card makers want to make another patches
@thomadvila13485 жыл бұрын
It was for the competition. I was inspired by the original card
@pigeonpoo12345 жыл бұрын
@@thomadvila1348 I'm with Trump, I hadn't actually compared it to Patches. Patches was really strong, and this is far more persistent BUT you have to draw it.
@roseoak67334 жыл бұрын
They’re in charge now
@MarcusMalice5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for reviewing my card (A Bird in the Bush)! Like I explained in the Reddit thread, I was going for flavor, and thought reversing the idiom made more sense for Hearthstone since the higher value location is the board (the "hand" in the idiom) vs. the hand (the "bush" in the idiom). Another idea I had was instead a 2 mana that either adds one copy to the hand or two copies into the deck. This lines up perfectly with the idiom (the deck is the "bush") but was a little more boring I found gameplay-wise!
@elysseussy5 жыл бұрын
This has probably already been thought of, but a bird in the bush would make more sense if it read 'Choose one, add a copy of a minion to your hand or two copies to your deck." i.e. one in hand is better than two in the bush? it would be a worse card bc both effects are not instant, but you could either lower mana cost to make up for it, or have it summon any minion, not just friendly. but that might make it too powerful, idk
@joshuadobbins45925 жыл бұрын
What you are suggesting would be much weaker, and the shuffle two copies would generally be a trap option for new players who don't understand how little cards in your deck are generally worth. So it would mostly just be seance for druid, a card which only sees play in priest because it has some specific combos with priest minions like amara.
@Szobiz5 жыл бұрын
@@joshuadobbins4592 at least it would make sense with the saying. and you are complaining about seance but would rather put 2 copies in the hand instead of 1.
@rickhaavisto90235 жыл бұрын
Lee R To be fair, in Hearthstone, to actually have a minion, that would mean it would be in play, and the bush fits better for your “hand”
@imreborbas90295 жыл бұрын
Well, as the card stands, the board is your hand and your hand is the bush. It's a bit weird, but at least the card is useful this way
@yoonitvector5 жыл бұрын
A bird in the bush should be choose a minion, add one copy to your hand, or shuffle two to your deck
@Jukantos5 жыл бұрын
Underdog Story should simply force your opponent to draw from your deck. Then it could be a fatigue battle damage tool AND a hand-flooding anti combo mill card in one!
@rosco35 жыл бұрын
4:50 cost 2 underload : Gain one mana crystal next turn. A permanent mana crystal, like the old druid card but with one turn delay to fit shaman and to balance a little bit more.
@maxischmidt12995 жыл бұрын
The ebb and flow card art is from Fearia ^^
@Szobiz5 жыл бұрын
yeah. ut looked bad
@jeeminpark33745 жыл бұрын
Underload suggestion: change it to "reduce the cost of the first card played next turn by 1"
@GubbiGap2 жыл бұрын
I really like the idea of Twisted Ironbark! I could see the "Silence this minion at the start of your turn" be a mechanic at some point
@Gyuribacsik5 жыл бұрын
Twisted ironguard, is intersting defense taunt. Cant use aggresive decks. Good for balancing the game
@DavidsonLoops5 жыл бұрын
But i never want to see Druid become popular ever again, not after Jade Druid and Ramp Druid, it's by far the most toxic class in the game
@Szobiz5 жыл бұрын
@@DavidsonLoops butthurt? lol
@DavidsonLoops5 жыл бұрын
@@Szobiz yes my bum hurt
@Oburi75 жыл бұрын
Mr Bigglesworth could be a non legendary and say: If this card is in you hand and you play a spell, summon it from your hand
@ishierrogamer77984 жыл бұрын
9:44 What about the 4 apocalypse horseman that DK Uther summons?
@devenconnelly68655 жыл бұрын
Easy fix for Mouseketeer would be to Change the text to a battle cry, it’s weakness would be the 1st and 2nd one being bad while the 3rd is the big boy of the 3
@zimboth5 жыл бұрын
Has there been a custom card that was a start of game effect that undoes its effect when drawn? like at start of game if your deck only has even cost cards add a copy of your opponents odd cost cards to your deck, when drawn destroy all odd cost cards in your deck.
@Knuttonj5 жыл бұрын
The other thing about underdog story is that it has to be over 5 mana or a legendary. Because it's just wrong that you could double cast it, sending the threat of instawin even higher
@Ph4nt0m_04 жыл бұрын
I think i might be the only one to get the “ebb and flow” reference
@LikwidKat5 жыл бұрын
Flavor-wise, a bird in the Bush should be: Add a copy to your hand or shuffle two copies in your deck. Adjust mana to 4 or something
@Mooseplatoon5 жыл бұрын
I think that Twisted Ironbark was massively underestimated here. The card is too costly for most aggro decks to take down efficiently on turn 5, and completely losing pressure for a turn as an aggro deck is often a death sentence. It's not as bad as it seems in slower match-ups, either. In those it often protects your face and/or board for a turn and then becomes a 4/4 with "charge". I think it's a bit too strong to print unless the meta has a ton of single target removal or a lack of supplementary defensive options.
@datboi59065 жыл бұрын
For Mr bigglesworth, you could have it replace your first mana crystal with a hairball, which would effectively function as an overloaded mana crystal.
@Mr_Maiq_The_Liar4 жыл бұрын
Friend builder can be Battlecry At the end of your next turn summon a frozen friend builder So your enemy has to not kill it, then you have to not kill it, and then after your enemies next go it will come back to you and be frozen still. Quite the delay before the second one comes online.
@KuroroSama425 жыл бұрын
For the mouseketeer... wouldn't simply removing the rush make it balanced? 9 mana for "15/"15 worth of stats is pretty strong, but if you consider that only the first is a 5/5, then it becomes 9 mana for 13/7 stats. Pretty weak now. Basically, it's really strong if the opponent can't deal with the first 5/5, then weak if they can. Especially if they can deal 1 damage to the remaining 2.
@HolzAlaska5 жыл бұрын
We already have Omega Agent for Warlock, wich saw no play outside arena. With that in mind, mouseketeer without rush would be even worse than Omega Agent.
@KuroroSama425 жыл бұрын
@@HolzAlaska exactly my point. No rush no problem.
@trondordoesstuff5 жыл бұрын
A Bird in the Bush should have been significantly less mana and been "Choose a minion. Choose One: Add one copy to the top of your deck, or shuffle two copies into your deck."
@grubob44395 жыл бұрын
Also, you can't really buff twisted ironbark, because at the start of your turn its silenced again.
@EDoyl5 жыл бұрын
Sludge Belcher is only a well-known card to people that have been playing for years, so kinda the opposite of universally known. It's also mainly remembered for how annoying it was, so it's a weird choice to bring into standard after a year when a small number of powerful anti-aggro taunts made anti-aggro strategy overly simple.
@Octoshark195 жыл бұрын
Would the twisted ironbark be summoned by hadronox if it died in its taunt form?
@CG-zr7rc5 жыл бұрын
Genku: 1 mana 30/30, start of game: if your deck contains only odd and even cards upgrade your hero power and it costs 1
@chaosmastermind5 жыл бұрын
Dies to naturalize on turn 1.
@justanoman64975 жыл бұрын
Underload: the problem with costing 0 would be it kind of destroys the flavor. I think it would be fair if it just comes with a draw 1 all the time. Friend Builder: Comparing with the tidehunter is bad because that card is only played for swarm value in murloc decks, so it's not really a 2/1+1/1. Such synergy, atm, does not exist in mech. two 2/1 mech, even if not frozen, might not see play. I feel it's fine as is. Mouseketeer: What if it doesn't have rush? Ideally, I think the balance would be only the 3rd one should have rush, but "Battlecry: if there are two copies of this minion on board, gain Rush" might be too much text on top of what's already there. Maybe remove the ability and just do a battle cry that adds rush and +1/+4 to itself only? Mr Bigglesworth: I mean.. keleseth exists... You can argue it's problematic design, doesn't mean it won't happen. Also, so many secrets summon minions, it might have a bit higher pay off than you expect. A fun and flavorful buff would be deathrattle: if this minion have died 8 times this game, summon Kel'Thuzad. But that's going to exaggerate the problem of high-low roll Edit: i realize that the deathrattle: summon Kel'Thuzad would yield infinite Kel'Thuzad due to summoning Bigglesworth back at end of turn. So it will need "this card is not revived by Kel'thuzad" if it goes that route. Also, long as we are here, the fact that Kel'Thuzad is not standard is trivial, since we have that one thing that summons rag, you know? Calling wild from standard might become a thing.
@snarf18515 жыл бұрын
8:31 I somewhat disagree with this. We should compare this card to Doubling imp which is a 3 mana 4/4 demon. It can be hand buffed with soul infusion and synergizes with the demon archetype . Friend builder is a 2 mana 4/4 mech with the downside of having the summoned 2/2 frozen for a turn. It does not dupe itself so it cant be hand buffed but does synergize with the mech archetype. I think if we compare it to doubling imp its fairly balanced, The downside seems to make up for the mana cost. Cards like frozen crusher and frost rider arent really ever played because there are better alternatives so we shouldnt use these as a base for balance.
@snarf18515 жыл бұрын
Murloc tide hunter as a balance point????????????
@3ternalHours5 жыл бұрын
Well obviously underload is trying to reverse the overload mechanic, just on your next turn and not immediately. So it would need to read something like "next turn, unlock your mana crystals"
@DiscombobulatingName5 жыл бұрын
Doesn't friend builder just get frozen when killed and pretty much never die unless silenced?
@Azirim56605 жыл бұрын
Mouseketeer could have "battlecry: if you control three copies of this minion, this copy gains +1/+4." instead, so only the 3rd one gets the additional stats rather than all three.
@Dream1465 жыл бұрын
Underdog story I think could be fixed by saying of you die to combat damage. So your opponent can play around it and it makes it a bit more interactive
@algotkristoffersson15 Жыл бұрын
10:39 what do you have agains highrolling
@Corrupted5 жыл бұрын
Ebb: Heal for 10 - Switch to Flow at the end of your turn Flow: Deal 4 damage - Switch to Ebb at the end of your turn Why not like this lol
@TheDigitalrunner5 жыл бұрын
I stopped playing Hearthstone ages ago but I watch every one of these. Also like the new look. Cheers, Trump and Jens!
@Yasswuh5 жыл бұрын
What about a start of game effect, where you lose your hero power but every turn summon a 1/1 minion? Maybe on a 5 mana summon 3 1/1 minions?
@ODDnanref5 жыл бұрын
(1) Mr.Wigglesworth Start if the turn: if there are no other minions in your deck, Every spell that summons a minion also summons MrWigglesworth. You can't cast spells. 2/2
@jankocioek75165 жыл бұрын
4:05 if you start all of yor turns are odd ones, and if you go second all your turns are even ones.
@RetroBackslash5 жыл бұрын
What would happen if your opponent silenced the Twisted Ironbark? It would just revert to 4/4 and not silence itself? Would Twisted Ironbark silence itself at the start of your every turn? So if you buffed it it would lose that buff?
@digiquo81435 жыл бұрын
The Silence at the start of the turn is part of the card text, so once it's silenced it will not silence itself again, so you can buff it after the silence without worrying about losing it.
@RetroBackslash5 жыл бұрын
@@digiquo8143 Ahh, that makes sense... sorta :)
@BIGhappyG335 жыл бұрын
3:10 Is 10 health for 3 mana not too much?
@welloveraverage5 жыл бұрын
Bigglesworth is crazy powerful for 1 mana
@Nooctae5 жыл бұрын
I think you should have made a lsit of all the Hunter spells that summons minions, because there's a LOOOT of them in the end. Spellstone, Snake trap, Wandering Monster, Animal Companion, To My Side, Flanking Strike, Baited Arrow That's a potential 14 cards in a deck, half of it. Not saying your analysis of the design is wrong, but it would probably be a crazy good card. And I know, it technically wouldn't work with To My Side all the time, calm down youtube.
@amethonys27985 жыл бұрын
Underload could just give you a coin that must be used next turn. Opens up auctioneer issues i guess, but at least makes it useable past turn 8.
@kaiomanuel18835 жыл бұрын
What if Mr. Bigglesworth was a 1 mana 1/2 that reads "START OF GAME: If your deck has no damage dealing spells, your spells that summons minions also summon Mr.Bigglesworth"? I mean, it would supervise nicely with Wandering Monster, unleash the hounds, spellstone and etc, but the deck would have no multi-shot, explosive trap, arcane shot, bomb toss and other stuff
@makaramuss5 жыл бұрын
4:55 make it if you got overloaded mana crystal it removes overload next turn so it can be usable at 10 mana.
@joaquinelias70925 жыл бұрын
THE NEW DESIGN MAN!
@GuyWhoWatchesStuff4 жыл бұрын
8:36, what about chain gang?
@Arrakiz6665 жыл бұрын
Absolutely love Twisted Ironbark. Once the tar elementals rotate out we're going to desperately need something like this to stand against aggro.
@thatboy81075 жыл бұрын
If friend builder existed i would attempt to make a friend builder otk
@fulltime45455 жыл бұрын
How is Mouseketeer not a 5 Star Design? Just because its balance is a little bit off?
@animatedmeta77555 жыл бұрын
I got ocd or something when ebb and flow because its a odd cost card but it says you can do something on a even turn and I don't like it ;-; it hurts my heart
@Oburi75 жыл бұрын
Underdog could say Draw a card if you take fatigue damage deal the damage to the enemy hero instead
@homero_con_lechuguilla5 жыл бұрын
If you're overload actually Underload seems pretty useful on turns +10
@MrMartinSchou5 жыл бұрын
Mouseketeer plus Spirit of the Rhino allows you to put down three 5/5 rush minions that are guaranteed to survive their first round of attacks.
@rickhaavisto90235 жыл бұрын
I think that might make that deck Tier 1
@prussia92555 жыл бұрын
I think Mouseketeer would still be broken if it didn't have the +1/+4 bonus from having all three due to akali the rhino since with that buff Mouseketeer becomes a 27/18 in stats on turn 9. Best way to balance it imo is to take away rush.
@snaipd25825 жыл бұрын
10:09 so how about this: start of the game, if your deck contains no other monsters, spells yadadadad do the thing. Why like this? Spellhunter ofcrs, however, it jams the weapon before you actually draw into this thing. So it's still high risk high reward.
@Gekuu95 жыл бұрын
I like putting Underload on a 1 mana 1/1. I think that would be pretty fair.
@circli5 жыл бұрын
It's the MADMAN! :) (CAPTIONS)
@exaroc5715 жыл бұрын
shaman underload card could be a rogue card. invest. 2 mana. at the start of your next turn, add 2 coins to your hand.
@drybrawler5 жыл бұрын
Ebb and Flow needs to be better than a normal 3 mana card. If 3 mana = 4 damage or 10 health, than the card should heal for 13 and damage 5. Since the card isn't a choose one, which would make it heal 7 damage 3, or only one. There is a chance that the turn that you could have had lethal if you had damage on a turn, or saved you if you had heal on the right turn.
@gregsmw5 жыл бұрын
mouseketeer can be balanced very easily "legendary" done, making it limited to only 1 copy drops its powerlever a fair bit and legendary cards are allowed to be indepenantly much stronger then others of the same cost
@lucario57485 жыл бұрын
What if Mr. Bigglesworth was a start of game effect with the downside of putting several more of him into your deck at the start?
@ZacOfallTraits5 жыл бұрын
That underdog story card should be a quest card that would help with the nerf
@d007ization5 жыл бұрын
Underload should get upgraded with overload, that would be very funny. (And it'd not be useless at 10 mana then, since it'd counteract the overload, hopefully) I think the Mouseketeers should need 4 versions of it to get the upgrade, that would fit better with the original story too. Still broken, just judging by the other echo (and rush) cards but at least you'd need to put some effort into getting the effect.
@lancejohnson32785 жыл бұрын
Last card was by far my favorite, very cool card
@Benjiman205 жыл бұрын
I dont understand how ironbarks dont have anything specific label like treant. Also they should have 2 stances rooted and uprooted.
@thegolemn005 жыл бұрын
10 20 isn't that kelthuzad's kitty from the halloween arena? (When sir annoy o came)
@OsvaldoChannel15 жыл бұрын
Underdog story + that spell that removes all the armor + a crapton of armor gain cards and draw = OmegaLul
@Nagassh5 жыл бұрын
A Bird in the Bush should get 0 star design for missing the chance to be "Add a copy of a minion to your hand or two to your deck".
@andrewrenshaw27415 жыл бұрын
Underload should be : Unlock your overloaded mana crystals next turn.
@asmahasmalaria85965 жыл бұрын
The Mouseketeer design has one BIG flaw in that the saying is "ONE FO(U)R all and all FO(U)R ONE" instead of the other way around, so it should just reverse its stats (that way it wouldn't be that imbalanced, too)
@riccardodellorto42675 жыл бұрын
It would be strange to see a 1 attack minion with rush (it would be unplayable before 9 mana). I like it more that way, but i think it has too high stats
@PurpleSidewalk15 жыл бұрын
Friend builder is balanced. Trump doesn't understand freeze. You play the 2/2 and you get a frozen 2/2 but it doesn't unfreeze next turn, it takes two turns because the turn it came into play it couldn't attack. By turn 4, your 2/2 you got on turn 2 isn't nearly as impactful as Trump is thinking.
@larsvisser80635 жыл бұрын
Mr Bigglesworth should be like patches but instead of when you play a pirate it should be when a spell summons a minion.
@TheCarsMC4 жыл бұрын
Scion of ruin makes mouseketeer look much more balanced. 4 man 9/6 rush compared to 9 mana 15/15 rush. Seems fair
@ericpaulsen21895 жыл бұрын
I would give Mr. Biggelsworth one more Star for the Design. Its Kel'Thuzads Cat and if you play against Kel and play Animal Companion Mr. Biggelsworth will apear instead. Its a funny idea to bring him back ^^
@jasonpage52825 жыл бұрын
where can i submit a custom card idea?
@alex_grim_5 жыл бұрын
6:13 In Russia we have an idiome "Better to have a tomtit in hand, than a crane in the sky"
@ThornsOfSerenity5 жыл бұрын
Surely 8 Mana Underdog Story then results in the Hemet: Jungle Hunter problem where you can just shoot your whole deck out and draw your win condition.
@ruben3075 жыл бұрын
Would be risky you still need card draw to gain enough damage on high life.
@princequincy54214 жыл бұрын
Underdog Story would be balanced if it dealt 2 damage to yourself, implying you need to be at exactly 1 health (or have spell damage?) to trigger it.
@luliby23095 жыл бұрын
Mouseketeer can be fixed somewhat by either doing your suggestion and taking off the buff entirely, or by making it a battlecry and only giving the last one the buff. Also, doesn't Warcraft reference other things all the time? I don't think it'd be entirely out of the question to subtly reference a popular Bible story.
@rickhaavisto90235 жыл бұрын
I think it would have to be in Warcraft first. All they would need to have is a Worldcraft character named Dave who brags about the giants he’s taken down...
@luliby23095 жыл бұрын
I'm no expert on Warcraft stuff, but I think that sounds reasonable. It is a story with a very universally appealing thing: it's the underdog story. The small guy takes down the big guy.