Top Digital Piano Actions, Compared! (Under $800) Yamaha P125 Roland FP30 Casio PX-S3000 Kawai ES110

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ThePianoforever

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@ThePianoforever
@ThePianoforever 4 жыл бұрын
If you like music, you might want to check out my second channel "Milan Recording Studios". Feel free to subscribe and hit the bell icon if you want to! kzbin.info/door/u1LrpmWwK1ztTvIayRar9w
@jameskerr9509
@jameskerr9509 4 жыл бұрын
The only piano reviewer so far that I can trust to be objective
@Livesinashack
@Livesinashack 3 жыл бұрын
Sad, isn't it?
@друг-п8е
@друг-п8е 4 жыл бұрын
you're very technical and informative but very easy to understand, and you answered all of the questions that i had in my head, for example non of the videos i watched about these pianos talked about the clicking sound that the piano makes which i think is a very important thing. unlike many reviewers, your video is long but not to only make more money but i think that you actually have a lot of important things to say plus you're not saying the same things over and over again to make the video longer. and you're not boring unlike my very long comment.
@eunicetan3367
@eunicetan3367 4 жыл бұрын
James, thank you. You are objective and go to the details without being obliged by being paid to advertise for any brands. We trust you.
@quantizedinfinity4441
@quantizedinfinity4441 4 жыл бұрын
Good job! I think that many people have been waiting for such a comparison. Especially to hear your opinion about Roland FP-30 key action.
@ThePianoforever
@ThePianoforever 4 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@ChristopherLH11
@ChristopherLH11 3 жыл бұрын
I have watched an unusual amount of piano reviews and this by far has the most value imo. Thank you for the great video, and your honest information.
@timmytwo-tooth5177
@timmytwo-tooth5177 3 жыл бұрын
James is in another league, compared to everybody else
@AnnaKhomichkoPianist
@AnnaKhomichkoPianist 4 жыл бұрын
Important topic, especially now when so many music students on a budget won’t be able to practice on grand pianos in their schools and have to buy something for home...
@CarlyWaarly
@CarlyWaarly 4 жыл бұрын
We opted for the ES110 after much research for feel and dynamics, this review came late but terrific to see we made the right choice.
@PETURK
@PETURK 4 жыл бұрын
Great channel and reviews! I can see in the comment section that I'm not the only one hoping for a Korg D1 review! I there one coming anytome soon?
@michaelmao6180
@michaelmao6180 4 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see a comparison of the action of the higher-end instruments, for example, the NW-GH of Yamaha CP-88, the NWX with escapement of Yamaha P515, the PHA-50 of Roland RD-2000 and FP-90, and GF on Kawai MP11SE. It would also be interesting to include the Roland PHA-4 on FP-30 and FP-60 since it has escapement mechanisms. Most people online are only talking about how they "feel" and everybody feels differently. You are talking in a really objective and descriptive manner and I think it would be really valuable if you can compare some of the more premium actions.
@Zaskar1978
@Zaskar1978 4 жыл бұрын
Yes finally he did it! This is the price range most of us beginners consider i guess.
@jokmong2360
@jokmong2360 4 жыл бұрын
Finally,,the moment i ve been waiting for,,,thank u so much
@ThePianoforever
@ThePianoforever 4 жыл бұрын
You're welcome 😊
@xPr1me
@xPr1me 4 жыл бұрын
Finally a reviewer without marketing bs
@Pommypocket
@Pommypocket 4 жыл бұрын
Very nice! I’d love to see you continue this style up the various price ranges of keyboards ($1-2k, $2k+, etc.)
@ThePianoforever
@ThePianoforever 4 жыл бұрын
That would be interesting, but it would also be a lot of keyboards to buy! I'm always working on purchasing more products for review though, so someday I'll make more videos like this with higher tier keyboards.
@Pommypocket
@Pommypocket 4 жыл бұрын
@@ThePianoforever Fair enough. I'm looking forward to the future videos either way!
@kunalsamanta7576
@kunalsamanta7576 4 жыл бұрын
Could you please do a review of Korg D1 and how the action is compared to fp-30 or kawai es110?
@carlosxu7042
@carlosxu7042 4 жыл бұрын
Yes please! Or any Korg with RH3 action. I believe you already have a Korg SV2.
@paolocannizzaro11
@paolocannizzaro11 4 жыл бұрын
Keep in mind that the Korg D1 is a stage piano, it doesn't have any speakers. Its purpose is much different than the ones you're comparing it to
@buself
@buself 4 жыл бұрын
I have Korg D1 and its absolutely lovely. I even like the fact that it has no speakers, because it's more compact and suits me very well! To be totally honest, I don't really like the internal sound(might be just my opinion) but using it as a midi controller with software piano is absolute killer.. action is fantastic to me.
@obaku1980
@obaku1980 4 жыл бұрын
this is what i was looking for to buy a piano, i am not a pianist nor an amateur, i am just falling in love with the piano since i started with Bach, slowly, but surely, and i wanted to invest a little more in a piano like and this Compare of digital pianos has helped me a lot... Thank you
@DavidArdittiComposer
@DavidArdittiComposer 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve used a Kawai ES100, the predecessor of the ES110, for a couple of years. The action is very good considering the price, as is the sound. The only shortcoming I find with it is that it has considerable key noise, which is much greater on some keys than others.
@aXenJay
@aXenJay 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for your honest review for these digital pianos. I cannot find full review of Roland FP-30 on your channel.
@Astronomater
@Astronomater 4 жыл бұрын
would like to be able to find that as well or maybe he has yet to post it? Would also like to see a px-160 review.
@ThePianoforever
@ThePianoforever 4 жыл бұрын
I just haven't posted it yet, it'll be coming out soon.
@toujoursici1675
@toujoursici1675 4 жыл бұрын
@@ThePianoforever Thank you for posting the Roland review soon. I'm buying my first digital piano and a deciding factor between ES110 and FP-30 will be your review. Your videos are helpful, so thanks again!
@Hadato2
@Hadato2 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting video! How about the Korg D1 or any other RH3 action from Korg?
@avc7137
@avc7137 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I have been waiting for this.
@Czecher262
@Czecher262 4 жыл бұрын
Your work is truly appreciated by those of us trying to buy something g in this range. Very well organized and presented. Thank you for your investment in time and energy to do this.
@micahslobcrud5958
@micahslobcrud5958 4 жыл бұрын
You are doing the work that few of us can do. First, you have far better piano technique/awareness/sensitivity than I, and Second, the INTERNET has disrupted local commerce so much that I could not easily play-test these four digital pianos even if I went to 4 different shops within a 40 mile radius, even though I live in a small but populous state. It would take me several trips to assess and then recall what I felt. Since I cannot easily test ANY of these digital piano actions, Jimmy Boy, your responsibilty to your audience is growing. I have been agonizing over the last few months about what digital piano under $900 (absolute tops...more like $700) to get since I can practice at work as a guard (Sshh!), but also teach music privately on the side, and I include myself among the well-educated but working poor. (Yet my random/hopeful purchase of a Roland Go Piano is all spring keys, and does not compare to the Gift of a beat-up baby grand from a parochial school 10 yrs ago or so, with a good technician taking the action home to regulate it, and subsequent tunings.) A real piano is truly cool, but mine has defects from Basketball Bonks and temperature/humidity in the gym at said school and just about everybody's REAL piano could use work multiple times a year, depending upon the awareness/sensitivity of the owner or main user. And needless to say, I can't take the Baby Grand to work! Thus, I need and appreciate this video with the gram weights! (Actually, we also know nothing about the quality control aspects and the bangs in shipping and what all they (the digital piano makers) do to prevent that...that's an idea for another video if you choose to travel to Japan and the Far East post-pandemic,eh?) Peace.
@JoseVGavila
@JoseVGavila 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for a much needed report!
@ThePianoforever
@ThePianoforever 4 жыл бұрын
No problem!
@aXenJay
@aXenJay 4 жыл бұрын
In-depth comparison between Roland FP30 and Kawai ES110 please!
@RenéPHald
@RenéPHald 4 жыл бұрын
Would Really like a comparison between FP30 and ES110 as well :)
@judsonmusick3177
@judsonmusick3177 4 жыл бұрын
Count me in on the Roland-Kawai comparison.
@leviperez1057
@leviperez1057 4 жыл бұрын
Same here
@ben1210
@ben1210 4 жыл бұрын
+1 for that, really can't decide between the two
@andrewzheng780
@andrewzheng780 4 жыл бұрын
Great job! bro... Looking for the high-end actions comparison! Korg RH3 , Roland PHA-50 ,Kawai RHIII...
@arturofregoso9162
@arturofregoso9162 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comparison James! Could you please also comment on the Korg's PH3 action? (as found in the Grandstage you reviewed in February but also in the D1 which is in the same price range as those 4 keyboards). How is Korg's PH3 action responsiveness, expression, joy to play, compared to these keyboards? Where would it rank in this list? Thanks!
@lostinbeauty7129
@lostinbeauty7129 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, James. You have confirmed my reason for choosing the Roland over the Yamaha and the Casio. I wanted the real piano feel and was less concerned about some of the other features. I'm really looking forward to your upcoming review of it. Stay well!
@boh365
@boh365 4 жыл бұрын
You're so good at these super informative videos, you don't need any editing. Have you thought about including fulcrum length measurement in your digital pianos reviews?
@tmcleung
@tmcleung 4 жыл бұрын
Can you do a piano action comparison of all digital pianos regardless of price?
@emiliocurbelo8891
@emiliocurbelo8891 4 жыл бұрын
James, thank you very much for this comparison video and for listening to your followers. This is really good, I enjoyed it, and helps many people looking for a beginner digital piano a lot. I also have an unrelated question: have you ever tried Kawai's wooden Grand Feel Compact (GFC) action of the CA48/CA58 models? Even if not, as they should feel close to the regular Grand Feel, what would you think about it, for a beginner looking to spend a bit more and get a closer to acoustic digital piano action? Thanks again.
@dracalves
@dracalves 4 жыл бұрын
Nice comparison. I’m a beginner, and got the PX s1000. Totally Love it! But actually did notice that the keys get harder as you try to play closer to the top.
@ThePianoforever
@ThePianoforever 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, they definitely do. I'd recommend looking into getting something else in the future, if you decide to keep learning the piano. That action is definitely not the best to learn and play on.
@dracalves
@dracalves 4 жыл бұрын
@@ThePianoforever Well, I supposed I will stick with this one for a while. Anyway, which one would you say has the best action for beginners?
@M0stlyHarmless9
@M0stlyHarmless9 4 жыл бұрын
I recently bought the PXS-3000 because of all the positive reviews. I didn’t notice the key weight difference at first, but what really bugged me was the incredibly short pivot. It’s very frustrating to play, and virtually unplayable if you like playing up the keys. Unfortunately I didn’t opt to return it within the supplier window so I’m stuck with it for now. I’m pretty annoyed that none of the other reviewers mentioned these issues.
@ThePianoforever
@ThePianoforever 4 жыл бұрын
Yup, it's not great to play. A shame, too, because the default piano patch is actually quite lovely.
@Vlican
@Vlican 4 жыл бұрын
i bet the other reviewers were just keyboardists and not pianists
@CapitaineBleuten
@CapitaineBleuten 4 жыл бұрын
Please do that for higher budget as well, p-515, Nord piano, etc !!!!
@barbaramendes8209
@barbaramendes8209 4 жыл бұрын
I found your videos recently and I loved the way you explain and the reviews. I would like to see a sound comparison between Casio pxs3000 vs yamanha p125 vs yamaha p515. If you could do this someday, I will be very thankful.
@stephenberry8415
@stephenberry8415 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this SPECIFIC VIDEO
@pranavjayaprakasanut
@pranavjayaprakasanut 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah much awaited video 👊
@Vlican
@Vlican 4 жыл бұрын
excellent comparison! reviews from a real pianist is always welcome! hard to get good reviews about piano action from typical keyboardists
@ThePianoforever
@ThePianoforever 4 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@MulgarH
@MulgarH 4 жыл бұрын
Hi James. First I'd like to say thank you for all the videos you've done comparing these four pianos. It's been very helpful to see you go in-depth on these instruments. I was an beginner/intermediate piano player a few years back who is looking to get back into playing again. I've been practicing on a cheap keyboard for a while now, and I want to upgrade to a digital piano. I like the sound and features of the ES110, but I'm worried that the lighter action will give me bad habits which could impact me when trying to play on a heavier piano. This is mainly a concern if/when I plan on taking piano lessons again. Is the difference in weight of the ES110 so great that I will have a hard time playing on other pianos?
@Seunia
@Seunia 4 жыл бұрын
Have you considered doing a review of the Yamaha Arius series? It's funny how you made all of these affordable digital piano videos AFTER I've decided which one to buy :) Your reviews are in-depth and top quality so they would have been handy. I enjoy watching them anyway because I always learn some cool stuff and this piano action comparison is no exception. Still, it would be interesting to hear your thoughts on Arius YDP-144 (the one I ended up with and I'm pretty much satisfied with it so far).
@tubezacs
@tubezacs 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for your professional reviews! I really enjoyed them. Can you do the same test for other pianos? I recently bought my Roland FP-90 (PHA-50 action, same as Roland RD-2000) and I noticed that I have the opposite problem of the Casio PX-S3000: 66g to move (not to make sound) the middle C and 72g to move the C#. Indeed it's a bit annoying playing songs with a lot of black keys. Thank you!
@pawelsz95
@pawelsz95 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent and honest video. You feel Yamaha P-125 springy because GHS action has no hinges. The rear part of the key actually bends. So it is not strange that the key feels heavier or stiffer as it goes down. I am curious what will be the downweights measured by you of actions like NWX, PHA-50, RHIII, RH3.
@ThePianoforever
@ThePianoforever 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info! I didn't actually know that. Perhaps in the future I'll do a review of the higher-end digital piano keybeds, like you suggested.
@pawelsz95
@pawelsz95 4 жыл бұрын
@@ThePianoforever but it is interesting that you find this GHS action quite good despite it is such simple design. It is light and must be light because pivot length is one of the shortest. I think that new action from Casio was shortened so much they had to reduce weighting of black keys to make those keys even possible to press when playing near fulcrum.
@pawelsz95
@pawelsz95 4 жыл бұрын
Anyway GHS is not a really bad action. Its quite light so the short pivot doesn't make this action unplayable. It's just quite basic.
@johnbishop5316
@johnbishop5316 4 жыл бұрын
Yet another stimulating video. Thanks. I'm about to buy. You already talked me out of the Casio and into the the Kawai, but after watching this I thought I'd better consider the Roland too. What I don't like about it is that it doesn't have normal line outputs. The manual suggests pluging external speakers into the headphone socket. This seems poor for "stage" piano. The phones socket is stereo for a start and musicians use mono amps, or two amps if they want stereo effects. The manual says " You can connect stereo headphones here. If you connect amplified speakers, the sound of the FP-30 will be heard from the speakers. If the sound is distorted when external speakers are connected, slightly lower the volume of the FP-30." The signal for headphones is surely too hot for most amps? What used to be called impedance mismatch? I would expect it to sound awful. I'm sure you have put one through an amp. How did it sound? It kind of feels amateurish somehow to leave something so important off. Keep up the good work.
@johnbishop5316
@johnbishop5316 4 жыл бұрын
Bought the Alesis Recital Pro in the end . £258. Very happy. But note, it is just for practice. I have a real piano too. Not sure I'd be happy if it's all I had to play.
@saityavuz76
@saityavuz76 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us.
@ernzzz
@ernzzz 4 жыл бұрын
I think Kurzweil SP6 (w/ medeli) and Studiologic Numa (w/ fatar) would be interesting to Review.. I've heard FATAR's keybed is good/best?
@LuisFlores-xr5bu
@LuisFlores-xr5bu 4 жыл бұрын
Damn, this give me a lot of information but at the same Time all of them have their advantages. Guess I will have to play them all to choose.
@disienna
@disienna 4 жыл бұрын
Oh I’d like to see the Yamaha vs. the Kawai.
@jeremygeorge5264
@jeremygeorge5264 4 жыл бұрын
What do you think of Casio's Tri-sensor Scaled Hammer Action Keyboard II?
@davidferguson1392
@davidferguson1392 4 жыл бұрын
I'm curious as well please. I prefer playing on acoustic pianos. Casio was the 1st keyboard to impress me with a somewhat real piano like feel when their Privia series came out. And the price was really affordable too. Curious if their newer technology feels any better, same or worse haha (PX-S1000/PX-S3000). Have been wanting to get something with better action for awhile now.
@FTropper
@FTropper 4 жыл бұрын
I really like the video. Someone like me won't probably feel any difference at all - but it is interesting to see there are actual differences between actions and I think that this is a good way to show it.
@josephj6521
@josephj6521 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, I’m learning so much from this guy. Well done! 👍
@EricCappello
@EricCappello 4 жыл бұрын
Very informative, thanks for this! I'm very curious, how do these key actions compare with Korg's RH3 action in your experience? I've never had the chance to try out that action, but I'm strongly considering getting a Korg D1 to replace my old Yamaha P-95 which stopped working recently.
@undertow545
@undertow545 4 жыл бұрын
Would be interesting to compare the older Casio PX160. Their older action had a longer pivot length, triple sensors and was well regarded. Shame they went backwards with the PXS series.
@drj9506
@drj9506 4 жыл бұрын
Love the feel of the PHA-4 action on my Fp-10, it definitely takes more effort than a keyboard which i'm used to (felt the soreness in my fingers, the first day I got my fp-10)
@rgm2754
@rgm2754 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Great video with very consistent points
@Naminorite
@Naminorite 4 жыл бұрын
great reviews - thank you
@오제노-h2e
@오제노-h2e 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! It has been a huge help in choosing what to buy.
@chetancrasta
@chetancrasta 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the meticulous comparison. One additional measurement that would have been useful: the difference between the down weights on the edge of the keys to the close to the fall board.
@pierssegal5910
@pierssegal5910 4 жыл бұрын
Chetan Crasta I've been wondering if this is what Casio are poorly articulating as the reason for the difference between white and black. Possibly the white and black keys on the Casio have a very different shift in weight front to back and rather than fix this they've made the black keys much lighter at the front so that when your playing further back on them they match the whites better. Even IF that's true they should have solved the root issue or been able explain why it is an intentional feature and what benefit they expect it to provide. Currently just having their keys be unconventional and refusing to explain why other than implying that people who don't like it just don't get it is very poor and does heavily imply they just did a bad job and aren't willing to hear criticism about it. It would be nice to know if there could be more of a logical reason for it though.
@chetancrasta
@chetancrasta 4 жыл бұрын
@@pierssegal5910 Yes I too think that that's the reason. They wanted to make the piano more compact than is possible. So they compromised the action
@sushrutgaikwad7523
@sushrutgaikwad7523 4 жыл бұрын
Hey James, first of all, thanks a lot for the video. I can't tell you how helpful it was for me. I wanted your opinion on the key action of Korg D1. They call it RH3. It's the same action found on Korg's flagship Grandstage and SV2 stage pianos. I wanted to know if it has three sensors, synthetic ivory textured keys and escapement, but there's no information available on Korg's official website. I found an image on Google. The pivot point seems a bit further inside as compared to all the digital pianos discussed in this video. I was really thinking of going with Roland because action is a huge priority for me. But now I'm confused. If you get a chance to see it in a piano store, it will be really helpful if you could make a video and compare its action with other digital pianos in the same price range and tell us your personal opinion. Thanks again!
@FlyingPhilUK
@FlyingPhilUK 4 жыл бұрын
For me, the RH3 keyboard (on a Kronos) is a little heavy - reputedly 75-80g - some people actually take a dremel to it and remove some of the excess weight! - the results apparently are very good, if you're brave enough to do it!
@sushrutgaikwad7523
@sushrutgaikwad7523 4 жыл бұрын
@@FlyingPhilUK Thanks for your opinion! 🙂
@Mr.Justanotherdude
@Mr.Justanotherdude 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Milan, new sub here. Thanks for your videos. I just want to know what you think of Roland RP301 for my first digital piano, thought of buying this week. I like classical piece so I’d be learning and practice them.
@tomswift6198
@tomswift6198 4 жыл бұрын
Again, interesting. I just checked my slightly old (i.e., out of production) Casio Previa and found the blacks and whites to move about the same. The bad news is that both are very heavy, at close to 85 grams. Though I may be estimating the mythical "letoff point" to be excessively depressed.
@droazen
@droazen 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, James, this is really helpful! I especially liked that you included a section on key action noise, which is a big deal for some of us trying not to drive people crazy. I'd be interested in seeing a comparison against the higher-end actions like the MP11 for key weight and noise, as I've heard wildly differing opinions. Keep it up and stay safe/healthy!
@pranavjayaprakasanut
@pranavjayaprakasanut 4 жыл бұрын
Could you maybe do a full review of Roland fp30?? Or maybe even compare that to yamaha p125
@ThePianoforever
@ThePianoforever 4 жыл бұрын
Soon!
@Papias_GR
@Papias_GR 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks a million!
@enriqueiglesias8141
@enriqueiglesias8141 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic review ! Congratulations, from Spain. Stay at home!
@fredve3984
@fredve3984 4 жыл бұрын
Haven't read all the comments so this may have been brought up, but it would have been very helpful, especially for a beginner like me, to actually see how the weight pushed the keys down; ie, a close up using a second camera. Thank you for this tho.
@earthman6700
@earthman6700 4 жыл бұрын
I enjoy your videos and getting an insight of various piano's. Have you ever played a Roland MKB-1000? It's a 'Mother-keyboard' not a piano as such but it has a fine weighted action for the keys. I have one collecting dust which I bought new but never really used it. It is one of my prized possessions though. I'd love to know your thoughts on these if you've come across one.
@seeyouintheeighties
@seeyouintheeighties 4 жыл бұрын
Great vid. whats your favourite digi piano under 1000?
@alanmckean
@alanmckean 4 жыл бұрын
I second the suggestion for another comparison of the actions on higher-end digital pianos. Perhaps a comparison of the Kawai MP7SE or ES8 ($1799/$1649), the Roland FP90 ($1949), the Yamaha CP88 ($2499), the Korg Grandstage ($2199)? The choice of an action when a store is unavailable makes for very risky purchases. You can audition many of the sounds of the various pianos on KZbin but the actions are another matter altogether. Love your reviews!
@kanapech2789
@kanapech2789 3 жыл бұрын
Please review Korg D1, a stage keyboard with RH3 action below 600 usd
@GamingShiiep
@GamingShiiep 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! I just bought the Yamaha and I'm excited to play on it :)
@ThePianoforever
@ThePianoforever 4 жыл бұрын
Hope you enjoy it!
@CramcrumBrewbringer
@CramcrumBrewbringer 4 жыл бұрын
I just bought the Yamah. It's coming in Wednesday. I've played on a baby grand for a long time, and needed something when I come back to college after this quarantine. How do you like it?
@arbbr9397
@arbbr9397 4 жыл бұрын
excellent work
@Matsenau
@Matsenau 4 жыл бұрын
Great videos! I'm thinking of purchasing the Roland FP30, but I'm wondering if it maybe will be updated pretty soon? it's already 4 years old. What do you think?
@ThePianoforever
@ThePianoforever 4 жыл бұрын
I have no inside information from Roland. The FP30 is a nice keyboard, but has no direct outs and that is a major flaw in the design.
@Matsenau
@Matsenau 4 жыл бұрын
​@@ThePianoforever Thank you for answering, and so quickly for that matter! :)
@mrityunjaytripathi5588
@mrityunjaytripathi5588 4 жыл бұрын
If I remember correctly, you've done a full comparison between FP30 and Yamaha P125.
@Nitrav.
@Nitrav. 4 жыл бұрын
Great idea to compare keyboard. I like your frank review too much. Sir please review korg d1 about its keybed and sound. Please.
@gonzabarsa
@gonzabarsa 4 жыл бұрын
excellent review! i couldnt find your review of the fp30 alone, is it uploaded?
@ThePianoforever
@ThePianoforever 4 жыл бұрын
Not yet!
@theroninpianist4443
@theroninpianist4443 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting review, and totally agree, Roland had the great idea of creating entry level pianos using the keyboard action that you would find in more expensive lines of digital pianos, and that's awesome because honestly I would not spend a lot of money on a home digital piano.
@ThePianoforever
@ThePianoforever 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, I like the action of the FP-30, it definitely is very realistic feeling. However, at times it seems a bit clunky, and I enjoy playing the P125 and the ES110 more, they give me a bit more control over what I'm playing. I also prefer the sounds of the P125 especially, and also the ES110, over the Roland, which just sounds sterile and rather fake to me.
@theroninpianist4443
@theroninpianist4443 4 жыл бұрын
@@ThePianoforever Yes, actually I found the FP-30 action more realistic just when playing slower, but it is not very responsive if you require more agility, or note repetitions, etc. I am curious to know more about how the P125, ES110 and FP-30 pedal action compare, I know that the ES110 and FP-30 are capable of doing fractional pedaling but that would require special pedal attachments. Thanks for the review, really enjoyed it.
@vincer9960
@vincer9960 4 жыл бұрын
What about the weight if the Casio PX-160? It got replaced by the current psx-1000 / psx-3000 but those 2 are flawed and don't count in my opinion therefore the PX-160 should still also be getting covered or at-least mentioned in these reviews...
@Laugac
@Laugac 4 жыл бұрын
Yes please, Does anyone know if the same happens with the px 160 models? I'm getting an extremely good discount with one px 160 right now, but I still in doubt due to this action issue and I don't know if this is something that also happens with this other px 160 model.
@locomotive536
@locomotive536 4 жыл бұрын
It would great if you could do a Korg D1 review, complete with downweight measurements. Same price range as these 4.
@dk2428
@dk2428 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent video! I personally prefer a highly detailed, dynamic response over the stiffnes/lightness of the keys.
@lesleo123
@lesleo123 4 жыл бұрын
Hi James, thanks for the excellent honest review, we need more of these than just salesmen pitches, can I ask you do still find the es110 action the best of all lightweight portable DPs? You dont find it too lacking in resistance for things like trills? Do you find it better than the new rd-88? I cant find the es110 review you mentioned...
@ThePianoforever
@ThePianoforever 4 жыл бұрын
I did a full review of the Kawai es110, but it may not be uploaded yet. I am not a big fan of the RD-88.
@jayxpea
@jayxpea 4 жыл бұрын
Out of the four which would you recommend in terms of quality and playability for a beginner?
@Gangl10n
@Gangl10n 4 жыл бұрын
Need versus Casio 560M, Roland Juno-DS88, Yamaha MX88. I can't choose
@nathanaelgilbert2137
@nathanaelgilbert2137 4 жыл бұрын
Please review the Kurzweil SP6, CP4 and Forte. Love your videos!
@eduardogianipero2341
@eduardogianipero2341 4 жыл бұрын
Great topic! I heard that Korg D1 has a better Piano action with the similar price. You should include this option!
@ThePianoforever
@ThePianoforever 4 жыл бұрын
I have also heard (and seen for myself) that the Korg D1 is an incredibly undependable instrument. They are highly prone to breaking, especially during shipping, and while the destruction of one or two can be attributed to a bad shipment, the fact that a vast majority of D1's are dead on arrival indicates a far more significant problem. I tried once to buy a Korg D1, the supplier told me they had three in stock, all broken in shipping. One of my subscribers bought a D1, it came in broken. There are many Korg D1's for sale online with broken keys, far more than you see with any other make or model. A review of a D1 will happen eventually, but I fear it will not be pretty. Arguably, the action feels better than anything else in the price bracket, but this durability issue with the structural integrity is a big problem.
@riccardozallocco4530
@riccardozallocco4530 4 жыл бұрын
To sum up, to train my fingers in future of buying an acoustic piano, what do you recommend between Kawai 110 and fp30
@ThePianoforever
@ThePianoforever 4 жыл бұрын
You will be able to play a larger repertoire of music with the Kawai es110
@riccardozallocco4530
@riccardozallocco4530 4 жыл бұрын
@@ThePianoforever thank you very much for the prompt reply. I'm going to buy the Kawai ;)
@GER_1
@GER_1 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!! In order, which one makes less key noise for practice with headphones? In ranking?
@royvarghese5609
@royvarghese5609 4 жыл бұрын
Would you be able to review pianos from one bracket lower, the Casio CDP S100, Roland FP10 and Yamaha P45? Most other reviews seem be promotional in nature, so your input would be great.
@ThePianoforever
@ThePianoforever 4 жыл бұрын
I believe I have done the P45 and I think you would find that to be a good value in it's price point.
@royvarghese5609
@royvarghese5609 4 жыл бұрын
@@ThePianoforever Yes, I have seen that. I was wondering about a comparison between the P45, the CDP S100, Korg B2 and the FP10. Your opinion between the pianos would have been enlightening. I'm looking to start learning along with my kids and the fully weighted pianos start one category below the ones you are currently looking at. So it will be useful for buyers in that category.
@paweprzewocki9296
@paweprzewocki9296 4 жыл бұрын
Could you paste a link to your fp-30 review? I couldn't find it. Also it would be nice to look at Roland rd-88 which has the same keyboard (I think) but is a more advanced instrument. Thanks for your videos, they are really great!
@ThePianoforever
@ThePianoforever 4 жыл бұрын
I actually haven't uploaded it yet, it'll be coming out soon. I have also ordered an RD88, I'm just waiting for it to arrive along with my Korg SV2S.
@johncope8368
@johncope8368 4 жыл бұрын
Korg D1? Thoughts if you are ever able.
@ThePianoforever
@ThePianoforever 4 жыл бұрын
Haven't had a chance to play one yet, but it looks interesting. Like an affordable stage piano for the gigging musician. No internal speakers, which is odd for an instrument of that price, but expected in the stage piano world, so it's an interesting situation. I like the fact that it has an RH3 action, that's been a very reliable keybed for me.
@carlosxu7042
@carlosxu7042 4 жыл бұрын
ThePianoforever Hi, James, thanks for your review. How would RH3 compare to the actions of this video? Please! I’ve been researching for it for a while now, but I don’t trust many other reviews.
@Conceptx9
@Conceptx9 4 жыл бұрын
I think a lot of your viewers would like to see a comparison which of those 4 piano is the best buy.
@uservincfilmon8995
@uservincfilmon8995 4 жыл бұрын
The issue with Yamaha and Roland is they do not provide MIDI out (lets ignore Casio). We just cannot use their keyboard to play others synths. Meanwhile Kawai is very generous on connectivity.
@jamisgordo690
@jamisgordo690 4 жыл бұрын
Why would you ignore Casio?
@uservincfilmon8995
@uservincfilmon8995 4 жыл бұрын
@@jamisgordo690 You may be right, I should not. But really they do not sound that good compare to popular brands, do they? Beside, for such a new chalenger, their price is not that appealing either. For these few reasons, I rather go with more established brands.
@sonnyone220
@sonnyone220 3 жыл бұрын
James, have you done a 2021 updated comparison?
@xingorro8605
@xingorro8605 4 жыл бұрын
I hope, that Korg B2 keys are OK, i bought one.
@Thiago-px9ev
@Thiago-px9ev 4 жыл бұрын
Is it good?
@sza2562
@sza2562 4 жыл бұрын
Is it?
@babakmahbaei
@babakmahbaei 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for videos, without thinking about price just action, which digital keyboard is close to grand piano?
@ThePianoforever
@ThePianoforever 4 жыл бұрын
Just thinking about the action it would be the Kawai MP11se.
@babakmahbaei
@babakmahbaei 4 жыл бұрын
@@ThePianoforever Not just under $800, if you think any price what is your choice?
@manteuro
@manteuro 4 жыл бұрын
hey man, i didnt see you go over the doepfer lmk4+! that is the best feeling keyboard action ive tried!
@thomasschatton3481
@thomasschatton3481 4 жыл бұрын
What a great review! Your comparison of the keybeds and actions are truly helpful for someone who studied classical piano and wants to buy an instrument which comes as close to a good grand piano as possible. I am still a bit puzzled though if I should choose the Kawai or the Roland. And how is the keyboard action of the Korg D1 compared to these two (even though it is more a stage piano and has no speakers unlike the digital pianos you compare here)? I believe the D1 has the same RH3 keyboard action as the SV-2, the Grandstage 88 and the Kronos 88!?
@ThePianoforever
@ThePianoforever 4 жыл бұрын
I have heard many of the D1's are arriving with broken keys. It seems to be a case issue. If you want the best action for classical piano my first thought would be the Kawai MP11se. It comes with no speakers, so you will need a amp, but worth the trouble. I like the Roland series myself, but nothing smaller than the KC400.
@thomasschatton3481
@thomasschatton3481 4 жыл бұрын
@@ThePianoforever Hi Pavel, thank you a lot for your quick response, the information on the D1 and for suggesting the MP-11 SE. I know that this model is a real good instrument, and many colleagues who work in music business professionally use it. Unfortunately in Germany it costs over 2000 EUR, and that's more than twice as much as the budget I have for a digital piano right now. So for now I have to decide between the ES100 and the Roland FP-10 or 30. That's not easy...
@ThePianoforever
@ThePianoforever 4 жыл бұрын
The FP-10 - 30 do not have direct outs and would not be a good choice for location work.
@thomasschatton3481
@thomasschatton3481 4 жыл бұрын
@@ThePianoforever You could probably use the headphone out with an adapter instead, but, yes, basically you are right and this is a disadvantage.
@MrFedy1996
@MrFedy1996 4 жыл бұрын
Have you ever tried the Casio px560?
@judsonmusick3177
@judsonmusick3177 4 жыл бұрын
Relax James, your voice sounds fine.
@denholden5972
@denholden5972 3 жыл бұрын
I enjoy your feedback on digitals, alas it gets confusing choosing one..! I took all your reviews on board while searching for a digital, including price range... I eventually chose a digital piano that was a great price at well under $800 AUD.(that coud be around $1000 USD.? ) unfortunately there was no video review/demo I could use as a benchmark... surprising eh,??? I searched everywhere.! I chose it on written and spec info and price only, and I am very happy with it, (but I am no musician LOL ) I wish you could do a review on it, your opinions are highly rated. the Model is 'Beale stage performer 1000 digital piano' it is made in Chinas 'Pearl river' factory. Yes it originated in Australia and made here, but not anymore. Thanks James.
@arvinzuniega3074
@arvinzuniega3074 4 жыл бұрын
Include KORG D1
@LibertyWarrior68
@LibertyWarrior68 3 жыл бұрын
I think I will buy the Kawai ES110.
@tubomarplatence
@tubomarplatence 4 жыл бұрын
Hi James, Roland FP-30 has the same action as Roland DS 88 ? . Thanks for your reviews.Greetings from Argentina.
@ThePianoforever
@ThePianoforever 4 жыл бұрын
The action of the Roland FP30 feels like a piano, but has problems doing fast repetitions. If you feel like that could be a problem you could try a Yamaha p125 or Kawai es110 both about the same price point.
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