Top Five Popular Games That Used to be Hated

[@TheAngel24]

It's still hard to believe there was a time when people hated Wind Waker and Pokemon Gen 5. I loved those games before it was cool, and I'm glad they finally get the appreciation they deserve. As for a potential future topic, I suggest Games Hated By Their Creators.

[@kaistephens2694]

Oh god, Bubsy is infamous for this

[@3possumsinatrenchcoat]

would Fez count considering the meltdown the guy had? or was that more just hating twitter

[@AuraStrikeAce]

Same. I love every 3D Zelda and mainline Pokémon game, really.

[@N12015]

Majora's Mask is quite disliked by his creator. That's the reason the remake was not trying to hug his unique identity and had sluggish physics.

[@DisasterArea]

Did someone say Smash Bros. Melee?

[@flyingfist4203]

"I like that my Link is able to smile." ~rabbidluigi 2020

[@K4RN4GE911]

Holy shit, No Man's Sky is like the story of Icarus, but on his way back down to planet Earth, he builds a jetpack and soars out into space.

[@KittyKatty999]

But then he ends up frozen in space, alone and with his sins staining his reputation forever. Translated: The game was *STILL* shit for so long, and was filled with endless lies. Even though it made a "miraculous recovery", countless people will still refuse to buy or support the company who made it, due to all the shit in the original version. We need to *stop rewarding people for cleaning up their act, AGES after they were meant to have a decent game out in the first place.* All rewarding them does, is show the industry we will tolerate any abuse, as long as they make up for it...

[@skrtreynolds]

Super Game Master What you’re missing is that devs take the abuse anyways. Hello Games wasn’t a AAA level studio, so they actually did something or else they would’ve gone bankrupt. Yeah they just did what they were supposed to but it was the way they went about it that actually made it respectable. They didn’t go on Twitter every day and say “hey yeah it sucks now but we’re gonna make it better we swear” and make more empty lies, they stopped any updates about it and just did their shit and made the game pretty solid. Not entiiiirely their fault if you still don’t find the game adequate.

[@Marty-uv7ep]

Super Game Master COUGH COUGH PARADOX COUGH

[@moeperson225]

Super Game Master And eventually, he stops thinking.

[@KittyKatty999]

@@Marty-uv7ep Paradox?

[@matthewmagnani2915]

Sea of Thieves definitely comes to mind. It was beyond barren at launch yet look how popular it is has become! The “No Man’s Sky effect” should be in every gamer’s glossary.

[@iKhanKing]

I feel like people forget how bad Wind Waker's reveal trailer really is. It doesn't show the ocean. It doesn't show much of the unique aspects of the gameplay. It's literally all about the cartoony tone. I probably would have been upset at that time if I saw that trailer too.

[@Santoryu90]

I see what you mean but even if that wasn’t the case I wouldn’t put it past some people looking past that still hate on just from how it looks. I guess some people wanted it to look more like the 64 games at the time?

[@garfreeek]

Don't forget that it was hated for more than the artstyle: *it's fully linear. *it had 5 to 6 dungeons and a lot of filler content (they didn't have time for the third pearl dungeon, and you can feel it! ) *those dungeons were suddenly a lot easier (watch boss keys to understand why. But basically it's because they were more linear and we had already played two Zelda games so for better at the puzzles! ) It's only years later, after we got the game we wanted in twilight princess. And you see how beautifull the artstyle has stood the test of time. That everyone started to live it again!

[@SakuraAvalon]

@@Santoryu90 After the 64 games, people saw the tech demo and were excited to see the N64 visuals given a boost with the GameCube. Windwaker's visuals are so drastically different, people had a knee jerk reaction to it, which lead to people hating it/being upset.

[@N12015]

Remind's me the american Paper Mario commercial. No wonder why the game sold less than deserved since that thing was basically Sticker star (over focus on paper) without stickers.

[@ShycoWar]

I'm so glad that Paper Mario : The Origami King could basically fit in this list. Maybe "popular" isn't quite the best way to put it, but it's definitely getting _far_ less hate than the previous two entries, and many people have voiced how pleasantly surprised they ended up being.

[@KittyKatty999]

"Realistic link and ganondorf" Wow, it's amazing how far technology has come. Makes all the hate for Wind Waker seem even pettier now. XD

[@SakuraAvalon]

I saw a preview for a game launching on the next generation of consoles. A 360 game. The screenshots at the time looked photorealistic, and I couldn't believe it. Now looking back at it, it looks like crap.

[@scarffoxandfriends9401]

Gen 5 was attacked because a lot of people where at their "I'm too old for a kids game like Pokemon and if I don't hate on it everyone around me will think I'm lame" phase. Either that or they where burned out by the initial release of Gen 4 and didn't play Platinum or HG/SS to get themselves back on the Pokemon train.

[@kuma-boom3223]

People are evil

[@kuma-boom3223]

@Patii i love Cartoony game and anime game im postivie Gamer i calm i normal life happy and People are Garbage Eustace: I Hate People

[@kuma-boom3223]

Im 16

[@antusFireNova]

I think Black 2 and White2 Is when pokèmon game's quality topped

[@SuiteLifeofDioBrando]

Amen!

[@kyoyamurasaki9169]

This

[@delphoxxthevulpera68]

I'd say it's HGSS

[@pikespendragon67]

The animated trailer to promote those games sold me back into Gen 5, plus we got more town & city aesthetics I'm more familiar with on the West Coast!

[@FleezyFliits]

Really hard to say when it actually topped, but it's clear that it started to go downward when the move to 3d happened

[@banshee46]

They did make a new Fallout game. It's called "The Outer Worlds" :P

[@popejpv]

No no no take that back! We are trying to forget that empty promise and garbage fire of an association

[@banshee46]

@@popejpv I don't know what you expected out of it, but I got exactly what I wanted. *shrug*

[@Txur_Itan]

@@popejpv wtf are you talking about?! Outer World is an amazing game and if you wanna talk about empty promises then talk about No Man Sky but don't get them confused ty

[@hylianxbox6586]

I was honestly very disappointing with Outer Worlds and I haven't played it since it came out. The game is Mediocre at best

[@banshee46]

@@hylianxbox6586 Can't argue too hard against that. It was what I wanted, but damned if I don't see spots they could have made it even better. The new DLC is pretty solid, though.

[@metashade4218]

Honorable Mentions: -Sonic Unleashed -Super Mario 3D World -Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword

[@ThereAreThoseWhoCallMeTim]

I don’t remember Mario 3D World being hated or even disliked when it was released, and I don’t recall Zelda fans recently deciding that Skyward Sword is great. Are you sure you don’t have it backwards with those two games - titles that used to be popular and widely-admired, but are now highly criticized by fans?

[@stanleyschicken]

Skyward Sword wasn't hated when it came out, but people have definitely warmed up to it.

[@cliffturbo2146]

Maybe some people were looking down at Super Mario 3D World, because it wasn't in the level of 64, Sunshine and Odyssey, but people still really liked it.

[@entruh4520]

Kingdom hearts 2 was received pretty bad in 2009

[@xww6849]

Entruh Really? That seems... strange. Especially since it wasn’t released in 2009 Either way, that game is probably the best in the series in my opinion.

[@TheIronKoala]

Gen 5 was the peak. Still love ORAS and gen 7 but 5 was the peak.

[@entruh4520]

Gen 5 hit different back then

[@delphoxxthevulpera68]

Only took around 6 years for people to appreciate gen 5.

[@Bigcat_Johnson]

Gen 5 is 3rd or 4th at best

[@delphoxxthevulpera68]

@person person Since it kind of went in the opposite direction for XY, I don't see that happening.

[@Thatguyyoudontknow594]

Entruh DOWNHILLLL FROM THEN

[@startheangel9760]

Apparently Pokemon Colosseum and XD wasn't well received at first now they're a blessing and something that Sword and Shield should of been

[@UltimatePhantasm]

bring back genius sonority

[@jowysw]

At the very least it had ok looking animations. And tried to do something interesting instead of beeg Pokemon

[@briancorvello3620]

Those games were good once you realize they are NOT the typical Pokemon game, which is the entire point

[@SuiteLifeofDioBrando]

I consider them superior to most mainline games.

[@mrfuzz241]

the fact that Colosseum and XD compare with Sword and Shield is the reason I quit Pokemon.

[@diegorivera779]

These edits are just *chef kiss*...don’t change Rabbid..never change

[@zlambert23]

An interesting list would be “best games that only received fan translations” basically games that never got ported so fans did the work to make the playable

[@amirgarcia547]

The only one I can think of is Mother 3, at least with a complete fan translation.

[@toumabyakuya3498]

Here are some suggestions: - Gyakuten Kenji 2: It was beautifully translated and seems even official. Thanks to this a lot of fans of the Ace Attorney franchise could actually play through one of (if not the best) stories Ace Attorney has ever had. - Dai Gyakuten Saiban 1: (Yeah, am a big Ace Attorney fan) This one is actually a crossover with the fricking Sherlock Holmes! It has an amazing story, very well crafted characters and a great mystery to discover. Its sequel is being translated at the moment by the same group and chapters 1 & 2 are already available on the 3DS. - Danganronpa 1: Yeah, believe it or not, this one had a fan-translation. The fact the fan-translation existed is what prompted an official translation to begin with. - Mother 3: I mean, do I really need to explain why?. - Any Super Robot Wars game: Seeing how licensing the game is such a nightmare for the development team (because this is a Massive Crossover franchise between a lot of Mecha anime and the rights overseas, unlike in Japan, are all basically spread all over the world) and they have very little money to make the games to begin with, they basically cannot localize the franchise. So a lot of fans have stepped up to translate the games themselves to varying success. The ones that come to mind with expertly made fan-translations are: Judgement, A Portable and Original Generation Saga: Endless Frontier Exceed. This fan-translations also told Konami that a want for this franchise over-seas does exist, ergo, since Moon Dwellers they have used a loophole of translating the game to English and then selling it in South Korea so westerners can import it from pages like PlayAsia.

[@vocalcalibration8033]

Fire Emblems 4, 5, 6 and 12 all come to mind.

[@scarletnight4554]

Dai gyakuten saiban, gyakuten kenji 2, mother 3... I can't think of others

[@cicron10]

If we count visual novels, then Fate Stay Night. The game was never released in the west, you need to pirate it if you want to play it.

[@DenSporetrix]

Toon Link is the cutest Link, and that's all that matters~

[@raidoukuzonoha883]

Especially the one in spirit tracks which imo is the best Zelda one reason cuz the link is cute in that game

[@nyxmiloq4167]

Spirit Tracks Link is a gift from the Goddesses

[@LittleMissZackyVee]

gosh hes so cute

[@glossyplane542]

Have you not seen Gerudo link blushing when he’a called a cute girl

[@chandler2581]

I'm a Sinnoh baby myself, but I loved Gen 5 and there was nothing that frustrated me more in middle school than watching people dismiss Gen 5 soley because there's a trash bag Pokemon and an ice cream Pokemon. I've waited a long time to see Gen 5 get the respect it deserves and I'm glad it's finally happening.

[@beardlessdragon]

I've said it before and I'll say it a million times: If "it has an ice cream and garbage Pokemon!" is the only negative thing you can say about gen 5, you do not have a valid argument against gen 5

[@shawnheatherly]

No Man's Sky may not be the course I want every game to start taking, but it is the perfect example that no game cannot be improved and redeemed. That game came out as a hollow shell of what was promised: fast-forward to now, and suddenly those trailers look accurate.

[@antonvonsehrwald]

"The problems come from over-saturation, and the fact that it's very easy to hate Minecraft when you see it everywhere you go." *immediately gets a mid-roll ad for Raid: Shadow Legends*

[@jacobkohr7243]

I loved gen 5 from the moment it came out. The story was incredible, the music was breathtaking, and a lot of the pokemon are really underrated design-wise. Haxorus, Chandelure, Darmanitan, Excadrill, Krookodile, Samurott, Conkeldurr, Gigalith, pretty much all of the insane amount of legendaries and mythicals are all some of my favorite pokemon.

[@IcePho]

Don't forget that Minecraft actually had a flavor text, "Don't forget to try Terraria." And the same with Terraria to Minecraft.

[@RoyaLotad]

After Black and White, we had XY (which was criticized for being way too easy and having super forgettable characters), SuMo (which was extremely different and therefore super divisive), and SwSh (which don' need explaining). no wonder people look back on gen 5 with fondness

[@cubedmelons876]

Oh man, if you think gen 5 was the most hated, you should've seen my school during the gen 3 days. Numerous cries of "EWWWW, YOU STILL PLAY POKEMON?" could be heard everywhere.

[@MiyaoMeow588]

Is that OG Nier music I hear at the start? I'll interpret that as an honorable mention~

[@Space_Noise]

Nope it’s Amusement Park from Automata

[@MiyaoMeow588]

@@Space_Noise ...but why?? since when was that game hated??

[@Slimeonian]

MiyaoMeow Maybe not Hated but certainly not that well-known. Automata really brought attention to the Nier and Drakengard franchises so... maybe that’s why?? Idk

[@Space_Noise]

Slimeonian 456 I agree, I played the OG NieR and no one was talking about it and it got some flak, bc it was seen as a rip off. Iwas never into Drakengard though. Automata I’ve beaten too many times 😅

[@Darkprosper]

I wondered that too, I think it's just background music and isn't supposed to say anything about Automata. Never saw much hate for that game.

[@scarletnight4554]

Earthbound, Nintendo hated it so much, they said "this game stinks" so people wouldn't buy it in the US, and it worked, and now it's extremely popular... Seriously though what kind of marketing is that for a video game?

[@FixTheWi-Fi]

Probably trying to market to that odd group of "kids that were obsessed with things being gross" that I'm not convinced actually existed but they had all sorts of board games, science and prank kits marketed towards.

[@dicksonmattxenoblade6491]

Honestly I'd just chalk it up to the fact that it was the 90s.

[@Santoryu90]

A Person With A Name Gross out stuff were pretty prevalent in the 90s so there were kids like that but it’s still weird marketing campaign. For all we know there might of have been kids who actually thought game literally stunk.

[@entruh4520]

Reverse psychology does wonders sometimes

[@scarletnight4554]

@@entruh4520 well clearly that didn't work, with how hard the game bombed, when it was first released in the US

[@SupremeMarioGamer]

Question to any Wind Waker fans: have any of you ever had any bitterness/resentment towards Twilight Princess for being the darker, grittier Zelda that people wanted over the more cartoony style of WW?

[@SuiteLifeofDioBrando]

I prefer WW to TP, but that is more due to TP Tears of Light segments.

[@Tooney712]

...ehh, I don't think so. I remember that people had been begging for the more "realistic" art style, but I never thought about it as a replacement for WW. Most of that comes down to toon link just continuing to be used across the franchise as well as the twilight princess design. I was like "yeah these can co-exist, this is cool."

[@amirgarcia547]

Nah, not really. It was the early 2000s, so with technology evolving, most people preferred more realistic games over cartoony ones. Though people would thankfully realize how great the game is later on.

[@briancorvello3620]

No

[@christopherhammond5142]

@Sandman Slim For sure. Even the HD TP wasn't particularly impressive graphically. Meanwhile the HD WW looks fantastic. I can't understand why they haven't used that great combat system again either, it's so fun.

[@Slimeonian]

That Nier Automata Music at the start and during transitions👌

[@MiyaoMeow588]

Pretty sure that's OG Nier, as Automata doesn't fit with this video's topic

[@Slimeonian]

MiyaoMeow The music is from the Amusement Park in Nier Automata :v

[@MiyaoMeow588]

@@Slimeonian that's a very strange music choice for this video but okay then

[@entruh4520]

@@MiyaoMeow588 its just music

[@MiyaoMeow588]

@@entruh4520 okay but he always chooses music from games that the title applies to. it's hardly a big deal, it's just an odd choice, that's all

[@Silveraith]

Since Flash will stop being supported by most browsers in a few months, I think it would be neat to see a countdown of something like a top 5 or top 10 great flash games.

[@soopakoopa6461]

Man, I remember when gen 5 was new and people HATED it. So much so that I vividly remember when the most popular argument in favor of X and Y was "they aren't BW" Funnily enough, one of the biggest reasons people hated it back then was the lack of old pokemon in the first game's main story.

[@CarbonRollerCaco]

People bitch about Dexit now, but there were Dexits before then.

[@jamesadams814]

"Before they made him look like a horrifying alien man." 🤣🤣 I almost spat out my drink.

[@xtiandg0914]

I gotta wonder you ever plan to do Top Five Most Heartwarming 4th Wall Breaking Moments, consider the opposite of Specs Ops the Line. A game that makes you feel good to play and enjoy your hobby. My suggestions is Ar Nosurge Reconnecting with Delta where Cass thanks you for helping them save their world and One Shot and the ending. I just want to feel good playing video games!

[@karmicrespite5737]

Undertale has a lot of 4th wall breaks that are painful for reasons (Flowey calling you out after you reload Toriel), but I would also lump in the Pacifist ending where you, the player, are asked to never boot up the game again and to let the characters live a happy life that you achieved for them. There's probably more, but Undertale's strength with 4th wall is really more about calling you out rather than purely heartwarming, so I'm probably forgetting at least one other good one from the game.

[@toumabyakuya3498]

Other two games he should add to this list: Doki Doki Literature Club and Undertale.

[@postapocalypse0763]

Man... another soul who played Ar Nosurge. Hello

[@ChuckBrowning]

The ending of Tearaway is so heartwarming.

[@xtiandg0914]

Wesley Darnell is there was a countdown about stories that can only be done in gaming, Ar Nosurge should absolutely be number 1. It's probably the only game that took advantage of its medium the most.

[@DirkCjelli42]

Obsidian missed their Metacritic goal on New Vegas by one gosh darned point and it kills me every time I think about it. My favourite modern Fallout game.

[@SigmaLongshot]

I'm watching this on console. I got one 30-second unskippable ad. Then Rabbid talked about the topic briefly before talking about the video's sponsor. Then immediately after, I got another 30-second unskippable ad. And then I realised that, by time spent, it was around 1:3 of actual content I wanted to see:advertising, and decided to just close the KZbin app outright.

[@justinc.5591]

Everyone seems to love Sonic Unleashed now. It went from “one of the many mediocre Sonic games” to “an underrated masterpiece” according to Sonic fans.

[@UltimatePhantasm]

Colors, on the other hand, is going in the opposite direction I'm gonna take a shot in the dark and guess it has something to with sonic's flanderization in Colors or the direction of the writing or something Or maybe a lot of new fans found Sonic Unleashed to be more enjoyable since its not just a 3-hour boost-athon and has one of the best stories in the series, idunno Personally I think both games have their ups and downs, but I don't get why the fanbase are suddenly changing their minds _now_ and not earlier

[@cliffturbo2146]

@@UltimatePhantasm When we get something far worse, we'll soon appreciate them later.

[@entruh4520]

Ive always loved unleashed

[@maskofice9432]

@@UltimatePhantasm As someone who has played both Unleashed (Wii version) and Colors and loves Unleashed more and has always done so, it has almost everything to do with the controls. Colors controls feel more slippery, like you tap the control stick and Sonic flies in that direction in a way I find frustrating to control, whereas Unleashed, while maybe overly stiff, feels a bit better since it's more about trying to maintain your momentum and when you get going, it's easier to keep going. It's also part of why I liked Generations more than Colors, it had a more Unleashed style control scheme. Also being able to use quick-step and drift at any point, not just when the game says you can. As for the werehog, I'm not going to defend that. I have a soft spot for it and personally do still like it, partially because I like 3D platforming generally with exploring and the combat, while not great, I find rewarding enough (at least when it's a giant brawl instead of tons of small encounters every 5 feet) but it's still the less fun half and those stages are ridiculously long and frequent. Oh, and Unleashed has in my opinion, the best music of the franchise.

[@sonicrunn3r895]

I've seriously always liked Unleashed, even the Werehog (I like a change of pace). I can agree on the whole fluctuation thing with Unleashed and ESPECIALLY COLOURS. I've personally gone from really liking Colours, to then really hating it, but I've come to realise it's still decent, despite its poorer aspects.

[@TheBlank49]

I remember a fair amount of hate going towards Metroid Prime before it came out, because it wasn't 2-D ("You ruined Metroid" was a favorite line, the poor fools had no idea the worst was yet to come).

[@cherch222]

I never got the hate for New Vegas. I was always the lone man arguing that NV was better than FO3.

[@EEBE64]

Popular games that used to be hated? May as well put every single gamecube game that isn't melee.

[@nanowasabi4421]

Some of my honorable mentions: I don’t think Twilight Princess was as hated as Wind Waker, but I do distinctly remember people not liking it, while nowadays it’s generally seen as better than (even if not as important to gaming history as) OoT. Skyward Sword is also getting a little more credit, which is nice. People maligned Ace Attorney: Dual Destinies when it came out, and the sentiment I see now is that it does deserve a spot in the series even if it’s one of the weaker games. Super Paper Mario was a similar situation to New Vegas. It wasn’t what anyone expected or wanted, but then Sticker Star came out and forced everyone to acknowledge it as a solid game.

[@SakuraAvalon]

I'd have to disagree. From the immense applause Twilight Princess got when revealed, to it's sales. In fact, it's one of the highest selling Zelda games of the entire franchise.

[@nanowasabi4421]

Atsuko Kagari It may have had a good launch; I wasn’t around for that. By the time I got into video games in 2008-10, people were calling the gameplay and world a worse copy of OoT and the story an uninspired attempt to be as dark as MM.

[@N12015]

I'm pretty sure Skyward sword is more hated now than in 2012. If I have to guess it would be because of underwhelming graphics, motion controls everywhere, the lack of auto-target in the bow and slingshot, being excessively linear, the tedious crafting system, giving you more questions than answers in the plot, among others.

[@nanowasabi4421]

Fernando Vasquez I haven’t been in many discussions about Skyward Sword since BotW came out, so it’s possible that that made people more aware of Skyward Sword’s flaws, but part of your reply just sounds like personal animus. I’ve never heard anyone complain about the crafting system, and most people I’ve talked to consider the story to be one of Zelda’s best. Linearity is a matter of preference. Of course the motion controls could have been better, and while I find Fi’s character likable, she’s terrible from a gameplay perspective, but I see Skyward Sword compared favorably with both Wind Waker and Twilight Princess much more now than I did right after it came out, even if few people will claim it’s the best Zelda game.

[@Fonzzz002]

Also, video ideas: Top 5 best videogame commercials Top 5 weirdest localization changes Top 5 fan games Top 5 gaming theories/myths.

[@jasonchiu272]

I wonder if Minecraft rose in popularity again because of the hate in the middle of the decade? I mean, it's like a reset button, allowing the game to further develop and come back stronger. If there was no hate, then Minecraft would be extremely popular, then slowly die out like any other game.

[@Puncake]

Really expected Sonic Unleashed to be on here

[@Erablier]

Suggestion: Top Five Hardest Games to get Back Into

[@SuiteLifeofDioBrando]

Wind Waker was always great to me. Ww hd improved a few problems with ww, and is my favorite Zelda game. I think its haters just skipped the game as a whole.

[@Waffletigercat]

Two things: 1) I don't believe I've ever heard anyone hate on Minecraft. 2) That's the first of your "subscribe" bits to actually get a laugh from me. Bravo.

[@amirgarcia547]

After a bunch of Minecraft parodies were made on KZbin and it blew up on popularity, people acted like it was cringey to like it and belitted anyone who did. Come near the end of the decade, suddenly it’s “cool” to like it again and it gets far less hate. Probably because its popularity died down and Fortnite became the new hot thing instead, and due to being 10 years old it could be considered “nostalgic.”

[@MoostachedSaiyanPrince]

I effing hate that Pokémon that makes me subscribe to rabbidluigi. It was Gen 5's MissingNo and the little glitchy bastard somehow turned all my opponents Pokémon into terrifying monstrosities that looked like someone found a way to put a Bidoof's head on a Machoke's body and I couldn't survive a single battle with one of those things.

[@cosmonauthal7651]

Rainbow Six Siege comes to mind in terms of a multiplayer game. I feel a lot of people forget that, that game was really close to being dead almost as soon as it came out. Now it is one of the biggest FPS games out right now.

[@Pryexel]

I feel ya on that statement at the end because I feel like some games these days seem incomplete and rushed in some area only to have those said patched out in an update or whatnot.

[@CosmicToad5000]

List idea: “Top 5/10 Games Ruined by Updates” Essentially what EA did to every franchise they own except somehow managing to screw things up without even making anything new.

[@Mr.Foxhat]

For me it's Fable 3. I hated that game when it came out as a kid. I finally decided to give it a 2nd chance, and picked up a copy for like $3 last year. I think it might be one of my favorite adventure games ever made now.

[@amirgarcia547]

I’m definitely glad peeps came around on these games and realized how great they actually are. Though I haven’t played No Man’s Sky Beyond, I’ve at least heard Hello Games turned the game completely around and made it actually...well, a game. Hopefully the same can happen with Pokémon Sun/Moon in another few years.

[@CiromBreeze]

I wasn't interested in NMS before the Beyond update - but I definitely don't regret buying it once I (re-?)discovered it after Beyond's release. Originally, back when the trailers were being revealed, I shrugged No Man's Sky off as some weird 3D Starbound. As I generally prefer my games 2D, I had no reason to play NMS when Starbound seemingly did the same thing, but in a style I prefer. And yet, now I'm heavily enjoying diving into No Man's Sky, optimising trade routes and making money farms to upgrade this rather nice looking starship I found into something worth using. Also crashing into planets. Because apparently that wasn't possible before.

[@Oakeedokee7]

Rabbidluigi stopped appearing in my recommended vids for a long time and I'm so glad to see his name again. I swear this lad is my favourite KZbinr.

[@Otakukunoichi]

I know you don't control what ads show up on your videos but it was hilarious how just as you mentioned oversaturation in the Minecraft segment, a freaking ad for Raid Shadow Legends popped up.

[@bnhik]

I feel like Majora’s Mask was kinda hated when it first came out and then people warmed up to it over time. That being said, it definitely wasn’t as divisive as Wind Waker when it came out.

[@thelastwindwaker7948]

I have to admire the guts they had to not let you have a Pikachu at all in Black and White versions. Considering how much the franchise is whoring out nostalgia currently, excluding the mascot from a mainline game is a bold move.

[@blackwingtfd]

"Why is it so hot?" Getting flashbacks to the Firered Let's Play; every other episode it was "SPOILERS: it's rather warm in here" ... i need more hot quips like that XD

[@Ryanmiller70]

I still remember when I first heard about Minecraft. Someone told me about it when I was watching a livestream on Twitch and it sounded amazing. I downloaded the free demo that was available and my shitty computer at the time could barely run it. Like it ran at 2-5 FPS if even that.

[@cs82271]

Personally, gen 5 was always my favorite. Probably cause I grew up with it. That would also explain why I still don't like wind waker that much. People hyped it up so much and when I finally got around to playing the HD version in 2018, it was underwhelming. Basically all my problems with it can be boiled down to there weren't enough dungeons, the great sea felt empty, and why the scavenger hunt for the triforce shards...

[@tommenno]

I never hated WW for its look. I hated it because of the tingle maps+ the grasping arm not working, the sailing being either boring lines or constantly shifting the wind, and the lack of temples, which they replaced with idiotic Tingle maps that you needed a giant's wallet to actually buy, and grind rupess to buy the maps with. Every time someone finds out I dislike WW I get the "It's because its cartoony isn't it?" line. No mike. it's because I needed to tediously grind for a giant wallet, then tediously grind rupees to save the world because a creeper midget is holding the maps hostage.

[@Howitchewstofeel5gum]

@@tommenno It boils down to this: WW was rushed and thus a lot of the content is annoying, reptitious, and tedious instead of fun. I love the art style, the locations, the soundtrack... But actually playing through the game just isn't that fun for me. And I think the current resurgence of WW love is, at least in some part, due to nostalgia. People tend to hold the first Zelda game that they played in very high regard (for me that's Ocarina of Time).

[@tommenno]

@@Howitchewstofeel5gum it helps that they fixed a fair bit with the newest release too.

[@ethanhayes7038]

@@tommenno Okay so I had a whole paragraph typed out but my internet went down just as I pressed the reply button and even after it came back the comment still wouldn't go through. So now I'm going to be a lot less formal because I'm done caring. So in short, Wind Waker wants to be a big open sandbox, but shoehorns a linear story in. The Tingle Chart costs are designed to bridge these two sides of the game by encouraging the player to explore until they have enough rupees. Basically, sidequesting progresses the plot. But because you gradually get abilities over the course of the story and there's obstacles necessitating them everywhere you're discouraged from exploring until you have just about all of them. So you're stuck either constantly running into more roadblocks than you can keep track of or cramming in all your exploring at the end of the game. That's why Breath of the Wild gives you all of your abilities from the start. Wind Waker HD fixes almost all of your grievances and most of the changes are good, but the changes it makes to the Triforce shard quest just replace one issue with another, because it's a symptom of a bigger problem and not the root cause.

[@RedSalamander]

"How much to get Obsidian to make a new Fallout game, do you reckon?" Didn't they just release one last year? It doesn't have the Fallout name, but I've heard The Outer Worlds is designed similarly to Fallout: New Vegas and is pretty good. - someone who has never touched it or a Fallout game "If that was the case, we might as well not buy games at launch anymore." ...Not a bad idea. I've already forsaken pre-ordering video games years ago because with how unlikely their stock is actually going to run out anymore, there's not much of a point to reserving a copy most of the time. I think the last time I pre-ordered was Pokemon Alpha Sapphire, and when Splatoon and Pokemon Sun & Moon came out on their launch days, I just walked into Best Buy / Gamestop to buy a copy THAT DAY because there were still so many copies left. Now, if devs are going to offer incomplete games from the start, what's the rush? Updating a game over time definitely has the benefit of being able to correct mistakes or rebalance elements, but I kind of miss the days when developers were able to release a complete, nearly-entirely-functioning-as-intended product. Rampant consumerism and rushed deadlines are a couple of bitches, aren't they?

[@christiandauz3742]

Persona 5 and Outer Worlds are two of the very few exceptions Not buggy

[@seanmcfadden3712]

"Why is it so hot?" I'm in Australia. It's cold down here. Probably something about balance.

[@MidwestArtMan]

I might be watching too much British KZbin. You're the third gaming channel I've watched this week who has complained about the heat.

[@bluestreaker9242]

Funnily enough, Wind Waker was my first Zelda game, Link to the Past my second, and Ocarina of Time my third and the first one I ever beat. I never realized when I played Wind Waker people didn't like the graphical change. Good on Aonuma-sama for sticking to his guns. :3

[@pikmaniac2643]

I never really understood all the flak over pokemon designs in more recent games. Remember, gen 1 had a pile of sludge that got more sludgey, a metal sphere that just tripled, and a pokeball that got a mouth, as well as a tadpole that got angry. There were lazy ideas from the get-go, but they get a pass for the same reason the smash community will overlook all the flaws in Melee.

[@Omeganed0]

I actually never realised New Vegas was hated at any point. But I suppose I was looking up all the cool stuff I was never able to get up to instead of reading reviews or anything.

[@darkjammin79]

"Lets not buy games at launch anymore. Lets make them sweat." Something I've said on many, many redundant titles and inevitable bombs within a week of launch. Seeing the harsh lambasting kick in and sitting back replying "I told you so" to friends of mine that didn't listen and needed to rant. I'm confident companies would suddenly be compelled to listen when launch sales drop by such a drastic number. However the years have made me quite a pessimist, slap a beloved IP on anything and it'll sell millions at launch.

[@bronsolo6941]

What's the name of the song at the end? I've heard it many times in other videos, but I can't remember the name. Any help?

[@Otakukunoichi]

If I add another game to this list: Dragon Age 2. I remember how so many people hated it because it was different and obviously rushed. Nowadays I see a lot of people acknowledge the flaws but still consider it their fave Dragon Age game.

[@newbiegamelover4767]

I think Five Nights at Freddy's is a good contender for this list. When Scott Cawthon advertised on KickStarter, it didn't receive any donations (I think it was going by a different name, but I don't remember). But he managed to plow through and get it released, and after some initial word of mouth, it grabbed the attention of several KZbinrs, including Markiplier and MatPat. While the series as a whole was initially criticized for the overuse of jumpscares, but was later boosted by the lore that analyzers kept digging up. And just look where it is now!

[@macdongr]

Yeah, Canada has been having a hell of a bad heat wave.

[@SakuraAvalon]

:/ It's so bad, I've turned into the sports game tech demo for a next gen console.

[@philgaimz9847]

I really hope Kingdom Hearts 3 ends up on a list like this someday...

[@jeannecaelum5167]

Pokemon Black and White and sequel are my favourite Pokemon to date. Always loved them, at least they get the love nowadays!

[@DylanCisGood4Me]

While the marketing dug a hole for No Man's Sky, I gotta commend Hello Games for sticking with it and shooting up out of that hole instead of taking the money and running

[@DavidTimmonsEsq]

I can't wait to see your Sentient Reminder evolve. Also, I'm 43, and you think YOU feel old talking about MineCraft nostalgia...

[@CountofBleck]

One of the big gripes about Gen 5 was that you were locked into only using gen 5 pokemon until post game. It was like a beta version of dexit....oh how times have changed

[@jaretco6423]

What's wrong with that? It's the entire point.

[@tyranitararmaldo]

I mean, going *insert generation here* while showing X&Y...we know what you're thinking...we know ;)

[@Fuzon-S]

Suggestion: Top 5 Robotic/Cybernetic Protagonists (i.e. Optimus Prime, 2B, E-102 Gamma, Revengeance Raiden, etc.)

[@randomrevanite8810]

How about doing the reverse of this? games that were popular but are now...less so, such as Bioshock Infinite and Overwatch

[@Slimeonian]

Random Revanite People don’t like Bioshock Infinite? I’ve personally never played it but I thought it was a really popular game

[@xtiandg0914]

He already did

[@amirgarcia547]

I think he did a list like that already with “Games that are now hated” or something like that.

[@Cinko420]

Random Revanite Sonic Colors fits too.

[@CiromBreeze]

@@Cinko420 Since WHEN was Colours hated?! From what I can tell, people still praise it as one of the best Modern Sonic games, if not *the* best one.

[@amandap7733]

Gen 5 was the gen that actually got me back into Pokemon after burning out halfway through Gen 3. Long story short Gen 5 might be my favorite gen.

[@i8dacookies890]

How much money to get Obsidian to make a new Fallout? $0, it already happened.

[@entruh4520]

@Tom The Fish outer worlds was meh for me

[@snowytheott]

I have to say, i’m genuinely shocked that Final Fantasy 14 wasn’t included in this list. I saw this video and instantly knew it *should* be on the list. The story of FFXIV’s horrible launch, bad backlash, and eventual rebirth into one of the most beloved MMORPGs out there, should have at least had a mention..! I’m not so upset that I’m angry or saying that this list is “bad”, I just think this was a huge missed opportunity! You’d be forgiven if you haven’t played the game of course, but I think giving a shoutout to this game would be nice. :)

[@SteelJoe2011]

Suggestion: Top 5 hardest first levels in video games.

[@scarffoxandfriends9401]

"Minecraft started as a small Indie game". And yet if Steve was added into Smash everyone will say it's a Microsoft rep. This is why I get annoyed when people say Smash ignores the work of small Indie studios, because if you actually look up the history of certain character's games you'd realize they did come from small indie studios. The problem is once a Series reaches the sales,popularity and legacy that makes Nintendo consider them as DLC for Smash, people stop seeing that series as an Indie game. Either the original Studio uses the success to expand or the Series gets bought up by a larger company.

[@kuma-boom3223]

When people Shut Up

[@ci7210]

Bought No Man's Sky in Walmart for $10 before the first big upgrade. Wasn't big on it. But with the new update, want to see how it changed

[@elipaul17]

Top 5 game first impressions. Twilight princess still holds the crown for that spine chilling reveal

[@delphoxxthevulpera68]

Pokemon BW/B2W2 started gaining recognition somewhere in the middle of the 7th generation around the release of USUM.

[@N12015]

I guess the comparisions are obvious considering how story focused both games are and how US/UM was a third version instead of a sequel like B2/W2.

[@creativerealms]

It was silly when people were hating Wind Waker based on appearance alone, which is funny since it's cartoony style allowed it to age better.

[@shenloken2]

Metal Gear Solid 2. Everyone hated Raiden and thr convoluted story when it came out. Yet it’s now regarded as one of the best experiences in the series. (Raiden redeeming himself in Guns of the Patriots and Revengeance might’ve also helped.

[@Bowcaster26]

Would have put Star Wars Battlefront II on here but that's personal bias to a huge extend. Otherwise a great list. Gen 5 always competes with the Gen 2 remakes as my favourite games in the series

[@tkl_sam0235]

I laugh way too much when the subscribe reminder shows up in these videos

[@gamemasteranthony2756]

I love Gen 5. The new Pokémon were balanced across all types and it introduced probably one the best pseudo-rivals ever created in N.

[@kellykoesling9309]

Since the Nether update I've been into Minecraft way way too much. It is both super simple and super complex. Mojang is doing a good job right now sans the missing native cross platform voice chat.

[@shawnpatterson2230]

I loved the Wind Waker and I remember all the hate it got. It has aged way better than most games at that time.

[@CSXIV]

When I saw that reveal trailer for "Wind Waker," I lined up to hate it (while still intending to buy it because it's a Zelda game). I warmed to it when early previews starting coming through. I got it when came out, even preordering just to get that limited edition GC port of "Ocarina of Time" to play while waiting for it. It's still one of my favorite Gamecube games and a reminder that when it comes to actually making games, Nintendo knows what they're doing more often then not And-No man's sky. I remember seeing the hype train fly off a cliff and blow up the entire train station. I thought it was funny. And then this year, I take a look at it and start reading about how it's now good. I gave it a chance. And the game consumed my life for a few weeks (I'm eventually getting back into it). Hello Games deserves credit for causing one of the biggest train wrecks in gaming history and, instead of running away as fast as they could, rebuilding the train, the railroad, the station and then expanding and improving on it.

[@glossyplane542]

Wind Waker was hated? I played it like 50,000 times when I was way way younger and I thought it was super loved until I watched this video

[@trustyourforce4041]

I was always a fan of the art style of Wind Waker but the Triforce quest was my biggest complaint with that game.

[@RedHoodFH]

Heard that heat wave over there has been brutal, hope ur okay. I know there no AC there since you never have a need for it

[@AuraSilverHero]

Top five bosses that you don't need to defeat

[@laurenchinsphealsupremacis9978]

It's crazy how gen 5 pokemon went from the most hated gen to one of the most beloved. It was the last of the greater gens imo.

[@UltimatePhantasm]

it probably would have gotten greater reception if they didn't make the regional dex ONLY gen V mons, since I heard that was part of the reason it got lower sales thankfully BW2 didn't make that mistake

[@aardbei54]

@@UltimatePhantasm It was sooo nice to not get swarmed by Zubats, Metapods, and Pikachu for the 68th time though

[@Textrosity]

When I grew up I for several years since playing the game didn't know Windwaker was hated at all. When I played it then and looking back it's definitely my favorite Zelda of all time. I also mainly played games if I used the PC and not browse forums, so I never heard anything of the sort. Sometimes, public opinion is just plain wrong.

[@ProfDragonite]

After this video, Top 5/10 Cult Classics seems even more likely. Fingers crossed...