Top Gear - Jeremy on the Train

[@KlunkerRider]

Top Gear camera crews can't photograph wildlife to save themselves, but boy do they ever to a great job with cars and trains.

[@oilyragsgarage7200]

They can also film the best combover anyone's ever seen lol

[@roadwarrior144]

“This week, on ‘Too Late to Look’!”

[@Shakes-Off-Fear]

To be fair, it’s a lot easier to predict where trains and cars are going to be.

[@corin371]

They filmed a wild Jeremy

[@alec4672]

Planes, blimps, rockets, submarines, and boats too

[@Sammie1053]

A hand shoveled steam train can do 80 MPH? Amtrak has some SERIOUS explaining to do

[@Vazin]

And the LNER Class A4 4468 Mallard did 125.88 mph (202,58 km/h) back in 1938 ;)

[@ywe3]

Sammie1053 the Accela goes 155...that's amtrak

[@Sammie1053]

***** I know, but that's one line out of dozens, and it has an average speed of 65. The trains I'm used to go at about 55.

[@ywe3]

Sammie1053 amtrak is a decent base HOWEVER if you want speed on a line look at metro trains I know trains that run the ERIE line hit 80 and average 75 and that others like freight trains (especially steam trains in the 40s and 50s) were routinely going over 90 the Big boys were averaged at 80 uphill and about the same down with a load...

[@Cheetobeepo]

well 100MPH now...

[@mikeshearer1250]

There is just something so magical about a steam train. Words just can't describe it.

[@Stussmeister]

Indeed. I feel the exact same way, and am reminded of photographer O. Winston Link's remark that a diesel/electric locomotive looks the same whether it's in the station or moving, but only with a steam engine do you see all the parts moving along with the smoke and steam.

[@vangledosh]

Michael Shearer exactly, thats why harry potter chose a steam train. Just looks like it fits right into the magical landscape

[@caseykaijones2925]

Stussmeister And you can watch the drivers roll forever

[@RareEarther]

The Beeb has cut the video & music so it all fits into the green & pleasant landscape just as it should.

[@jlhcreations9001]

Its the feeling of realisation on how amazing we humans are making such things out off the ground

[@cbence96]

That closing shot is just beautiful beyond words. Thats what I loved about TG, despite being a car entertainment show, the cinematography sometimes surpasses big budget Hollywood films as well

[@nolanconlin7236]

Czékus Bence came here for a comment about the last shot. gorgeous

[@eriknewland3686]

Amen. That's part of where the Grand Tour falls short compared to its predecessor.

[@AGH0STBUSTER5]

You should check out a movie called Rocky Mountain Express. It follows a restored Canadian Pacific 4-6-4 through the Rocky Mountains and the cinematography is second to none

[@eriknewland3686]

@@AGH0STBUSTER5 I saw it at a local IMAX theater back in 2013. It was really cool!!

[@off_mah_lawn2074]

And in typical top gear fashion, they uploaded it in 144p

[@skipper7147]

"ALL WE HAD TO DO WAS FOLLOW THE DAMN TRAIN JAMES"

[@hybridAbsol]

ALL YOU HAD TO DO IS SHOVEL MORE COAL JEREMY

[@redferroequus]

James? More like Hammond. "ALL WE HAD TO DO, WAS FOLLOW THE DAMN TRAIN HAMMOND" - Yelled a producer.

[@mchmchminecraft1637]

ALL WE HAD TO DO WAS FOLLOW THE DAMN TRAIN JC

[@willtolive2252]

Did you really have to put that gta-san-andreas reference in there

[@jonavanderpal]

@@willtolive2252 Yes.

[@verzekeringsadviseur]

the only time jezza did manual labor

[@Maob08]

@Ethan Schmid Fobia. The biggest fear of them all.

[@hybridAbsol]

Bullshit fear

[@CymruJedi]

And he whinged the entire time

[@florisvanvliet3542]

"Hammond you know I can't do manual labour."

[@carlbirtles4518]

@@Maob08 *phobia

[@caboose.20]

The rail enthusiast in me is heartbroken that Tornado lost the race.

[@carolinemcewan9113]

It only lost on a technicality ... Jeremy wanted to cook ...

[@yeeticus_maximus9616]

British railways have a speed limit of 75mph for trains. The tornado has a lot more in her than that

[@Richard-Swift]

Because there are no more water troughs on British railways, steam trains have to stop every 75 miles or so to take on water from a fire engine, slowing down the journey.

[@owenstockwood5040]

@@yeeticus_maximus9616 Actually there is an exception for Tornado, who is allowed to do 90mph, and she has reached 100mph on a test run.

[@bluefoxy6478]

@@owenstockwood5040 that was a few years AFTER this happened

[@TheNighthawk00]

Respect to those coal shovelers. That must be tough to do.

[@TehBellcarl]

Some of us are lucky enough to work on steam locomotives with augers

[@MilkDrinker218]

The coal shoveler is called a “fireman”

[@franktatom1837]

The condition of the track often has more to do with the speed of the train than the locomotive. Amtrak runs on track owned and maintained, in some cases badly, by private railroads.

[@redmr2na]

@@MilkDrinker218 Are you sure? Maybe they're called "Igniters"

[@MilkDrinker218]

Nope. Firemen. Weird name.

[@Vladpryde]

Art. Just pure art. Top Gear had a good thing going with this production crew. They made everything beautiful and miraculous. A real testament to Andy Wilman and Jeremy Clarkson.

[@GayFrogsTho]

Couldn't have said it better mate.

[@muttproductions2536]

When I watched this, I actually found out later on that Jeremy, despite hating things like commuter rail in cities like London, is a fan of engineering solutions like railways. He's British after all, so why would he hate trains? It's in his blood. That being said, I would absolutely love to see him do a feature-length documentary about trains, be it the world over or within Britain itself

[@nicopavvi8494]

Another idea could be a Top Gear episode where they have an old rusty steam engine and they have to fix it, it could be a train or another vehicle such as steam tractors

[@muttproductions2536]

@@nicopavvi8494 they did have something similar, where they were tasked with taking a car and some caravans and making a train that was an affordable trip for everyone. It ended up as two separate trains because Jeremy wanted to use the Jaguar which couldn't haul the four coaches, and that it would still be horribly expensive to travel in, whereas May and Hammond got a four-wheel drive Audi and had a train that was set up as follows: First Buffet (this caught fire at the end of their journey thanks to Hammond's appalling work as a steward and cook) Second Scum (they could've just used a livestock wagon instead)

[@nicopavvi8494]

@@muttproductions2536 I saw that episode, it's quite funny

[@MrDalek2150]

@@muttproductions2536 It wasn't hammonds fault that James was going too fast for the caravans.

[@kennorcott7074]

That’s more of a James may thing

[@DanBakerMusic]

The cinematography here is truly breathtaking. This in conjunction with the magnificent Wagner soundtrack is a joy to behold. The community spirit that created this wonderful machine is an example of the best of humanity. I’d love to be in Mr. Clarkson’s shoes here...

[@caseykaijones2925]

That train is the most amazing, majestic, and magical vehicle I could ever see

[@tabaksmozaiekvirus1715]

You are watching top gear, it's about cars

[@Jiskpirate]

It's a train nevertheless.@@tabaksmozaiekvirus1715

[@tabaksmozaiekvirus1715]

@@Jiskpirate yes, I was being ironical in that comment, trying to be. Didnt really work out now,that i'm looking back at it

[@Bizz55]

The pinnacle of old school engineering.

[@louiesmithen7697]

This isn't a brag, just a statement for clarity. I fly planes, not big ones but around airports and see all types of craft in action, yet I am so much more awed and fascinated by powerful steam trains

[@tiggs7255]

The only thing that would make cooking kippers in the engine of a steam powered locomotive more British would be if they were having tea while doing so.

[@petersimmons7394]

They were....

[@cherri_chip7257]

@@petersimmons7394 yeah lol

[@michaelrawson6261]

Ruth fivoor:... be under NO illusions, there was a big flask in that cab somewhere VERY close to hand!!! Probably several!

[@Scag1522]

What about using the exhaust from a Spitfire?

[@carlbirtles4518]

Jezza tried cooking bacon, but it was too light. He managed to do a fried egg sandwich, but he didn't like the 'seasoning'.

[@RufusT9]

at 2:40 is one of the most moving scenes I've ever seen, an A1 Pacific tearing up the east coast through the Scottish Borders, accompanied by the soundtrack of Der Fliegende Hollander

[@nottmjas]

+RufusT9 That scene, which is absolutely beautiful in terms of imagery and music which perfectly complements it, was shot just north of Berwick-on-Tweed; the train crosses the border at 2:49.

[@samegross6337]

+nottmjas the music is the flying dutchman by wagner, an odd choice seaming as the two die in the end of the opera....

[@caboose.20]

That's Tornado. Its an A1 Peppercorn, not an A1 Pacific

[@almostkentish3042]

@@caboose.20 it's still an A1 Pacific. Pacific refers to the wheel configuration, being 4-6-2 (four leading wheels, six driving wheels, two trailing wheels) not the type. Peppercorn is the name of the designer, Arthur H. Peppercorn.

[@caboose.20]

@@almostkentish3042 had no idea, thank you!

[@nates9536]

That thing really is moving. You can really get a sense of it's power at 2:25 as it rushes past the cars driving along side

[@MrHeroicDemon]

tru

[@casualonion]

does anyone know where that road is?

[@jasonswaglord1498]

Tornado can do a whoppin 110 miles per an hour. There is a video about it. Its crazy.

[@nottmjas]

@@casualonion it's the B1377 at Drem to the east of Edinburgh

[@casualonion]

@@nottmjas thanks 👍

[@Phen0mable]

East coast of Britain is beautiful

[@solatiumz]

A lot of the British Isles is beautiful, fortunately 90% of the population stick to the towns and cities.

[@lukejohn1277]

solatiumz true as u don’t see much chavs or loads of people living in countryside or rural area

[@isaacharkton6169]

@@lukejohn1277 yet there’s less and less country England every year

[@20PhantoM07]

Tis nice, was trying to workout where these shots were taken..

[@robertsteel3563]

Jeremy Clarkson: "My Dad built a house next to the railway line, but by the time he finished, the line got shut down." Me: *OOF 100*

[@TheBosSauveli]

Wagner´s music raises the whole experience of watching this wonderful piece of machinery in motion. I believe that steam engines have soles. This particular association of picture and sound brings me always to tears...

[@Oly1y]

even though they're worse for the environment, these trains are so much more beautiful than modern trains.

[@Stussmeister]

+TheBosSauveli Indeed. The British author Reverend W. Awdry, known for creating some of the most recognizable trains in children's literature (particularly a little blue tank engine), even said that the huffing, chuffing, and puffing of steam locomotives make them sound like living creatures as opposed to machines.

[@funnyguy3D]

Xplosion51 Who cares.

[@RetroVzqz9313]

So they have feet now? That's new....

[@Calilasseia]

Clarkson actually wrote a book called "I know You Got Soul", covering a range of machines. His chapter on the Yamato was notable for a rarely seen correct usage of the adjective "hyperbolic". :) If you find a copy, you'll enjoy it.

[@danielmartins4367]

That final shot was magical

[@iancadwallender9779]

This passed our house with Jeremy on board.Its passed us many times on tours. Majestic,brilliant.

[@jackwalsh8871]

Most work Jeremy's ever done in his 60 year's on this planet 😂

[@sandynathan]

Never heard of clarksons farm then....lol

[@RandomDuude]

I love cars but I was cheering for the train in this episode :3

[@timw6928]

When the poms put there mind to it, Nothing beats British engineering , steam trains ,the Deltic diesel locomotive. The Avro Vulcan, English electric lightning............the list goes on and on and on.

[@DominicA24]

This is one of the best videos of steam locomotives that I’ve ever seen.

[@dongdynamics]

Man there is just something majestic about that train... idk what it is but it's just amazing

[@TBJ_1613]

Well..... It is the most recently built steam engine being completed in 2007 That might explain it's beauty

[@countluke2334]

@@TBJ_1613 No, the other remaining British Pacifics and 4-6-0 are nearly as majestic. The A4's and Scotsman even more so.

[@kgpspyguy]

Ok. We’ve established that it can go at least 80 miles per hour… But can it reach 88 miles per hour? Asking for a friend.

[@MrJoeyWheeler]

@@kgpspyguy Just about any British Pacific can be expected to reach around 95 miles per hour at a push, possibly even 100. But 80-85 would be the safest range for general operations.

[@darius2640]

jeremy: I'm alergic to manual labour also jeremy:

[@ISirSmoke]

love these behind-the-scenes videos. thanks megan !

[@SubSIL3NTPodcast]

Sir.Smoke Jeremy on his way to Hogwarts

[@Oly1y]

+SubSIL3NT Podcast Slytherin!

[@tomluty26]

+SubSIL3NT Podcast nope. the loco i that was a hall class. this one is a A1 class.

[@kobyisreallyawesome8328]

TSL transport video's actually it was a castle (I’m 85% sure)

[@justarandomf-4gphantom170]

@@kobyisreallyawesome8328 Nope it was a Hall. They called it a Castle because of...you know...Hogwarts Castle. They couldn't get a GWR Castle 4-6-0 because of weight limitations, and since the Halls looked exactly the same, as with any GWR ten-wheeler, the went with it instead.

[@SodorTrain1225]

Tornado, my boi!

[@joelcartagena953]

Express Coming Through. Poop Poop Poooooooop.

[@CGYTrainz]

That A1 Pacific is such a beautiful sight to behold, loved that episode of Top Gear.

[@sandynathan]

Only thing missing at 2:41 is a spitfire and a hurricane flying alongside. Pure emotion!!

[@thomasrichards3760]

Found this production those years back, as well as this short montage far more entertaining than their recent multi million pound product in Madagascar

[@chrissteamman3738]

A superb video, Excellent editing with the perfect musical soundtrack. The final sequence on the cliffs is truly inspired.

[@hanfordreach6849]

The Flying Dutchman (Der fliegende Holländer) - Opera by Richard Wagner

[@sirhumphreyappleby8399]

For anyone wondering, as I was though I recognised the composer, the piece is The Flying Dutchman Overture.

[@thelicensednerd1626]

You know some engine drivers genuinely did cook things in the engines fire box on long journeys

[@nicopavvi8494]

My grandfather worked on steam engines and he told my mother he did that in the 60s

[@billb207]

2:42 the precise moment it crosses from England into Scotland.

[@The12thDimension.]

It is?

[@LesD9]

2:49 actually. The border is at the end of that field.

[@CymruJedi]

Good on Jeremy for doing this, this is one of the few times I felt like he put into a lot of work in order to win

[@CymruJedi]

One of my favourite races they did

[@lex1945]

What a Majestic sight from the air!

[@tominsapporo1148]

One amazing locomotive. Had the honor of riding in a coach pulled by it.

[@jude_the_apostle]

0:53 Jeremy Freeman

[@vr6gls]

I know top gear is a car show but damn does this cinematography show the beauty of a steam train. I remember watching this episode when it first aired and I was actually rooting for the train to win. Haha!

[@gkingGabe72]

I love those spectacular overhead shots of Tornado puffing down the line. Also cooking fish in the firebox. I hope that shovel was clean.

[@Fishfingers232]

I love my kippers to be coal flavoured.

[@solatiumz]

With the amount of coal dust on their faces, I imagine everything would taste of coal for a few days afterwards...

[@imperialsecuritybureau6037]

Definitely better than diesel flavoured...

[@terrier_productions]

They clean the shovel before putting food on it..

[@ahpadt]

I love this episode.

[@misterkefir]

+ahpadt Which episode is it?! I can't remember..

[@ahpadt]

misterkefir 13x01

[@meninao5916]

For most part of the video I thought I was watching a Harry Potter movie. Amazing cinematographic shots, guys!! Truly beautiful!

[@davidsewellclarke4997]

Never mind the new trains , bring back Steam trains or Deisel and the old Coaches we used to have ,6 to 8 in a compartment , The old train smell . Good old days .

[@rabd9881]

Rose tinted glasses, someone needs to break them for you

[@garyhaber333]

I love the fact that the UK still uses steam on some of its lines. The nostalgia is sweet.

[@derronbailey9332]

The first time Jeremy has been in the cab of a truly powerful vehicle.

[@gaius_enceladus]

Beautiful locomotive and beautiful scenery!

[@berendoldenburger]

It’s weird of how steam trains in the UK can travel at over 70 mph and in New Zealand (where I’m from) trains are limited to 50 mph.

[@oljefri]

A while ago Tornado was certified for 100mph:) kzbin.info/www/bejne/kGiuhnusfMykqqs

[@terrier_productions]

skwee igelkott 101MPH beating Flying Scotsman’s record!

[@johnsergei]

Any steam loco with wheels over 6 feet high has the potential to do close to 100 MPH or even more. Weather it is allowed to, weather it can be driven that hard & especially, if it can keep it's steam pressure up, will be they key. The wheels are the gearing. Drive/fire it wrong or too hard & steam pressure drops & power falls off The smaller tall wheeled locos of the late 19th century could attain 80 MPH or so, with a light train. But the bigger Tornado sized engines of the 1930s, could cruse at that speed or higher, with heavy trains. & Germany & a few trains in the USA could = them. Steam may be romantic & the early diesels couldn't beat them (or even = them if the train was long & heavy). Then came the Deltic ( Class 55) Steam was beaten ( with some improvements on this line). Then we have the InterCity 125, the HST., a diesel train with sort of electric train performance. But the modern electrics will leave the HST still clearing the station.

[@TheFatNumpty]

A thing of beauty is a joy forever. Behold such a thing and thank goodness there are people that keep them alive!

[@HolyKhaaaaan]

The first minute or so of the train running feels like we're in a dystopian world, and the one glorious thing in the world is this Steam Express.

[@flatplant]

I can't believe Clarkson is only 59 (49 when this was made), I seriously thought he was in his 70's now.

[@jk844100]

He smoked for most of his life (I think he started when he was 13), he quite about 10 years ago but still I’d imagine it hasn’t help him.

[@ronaldtreitner1460]

jeremy's a real man, shovels coal and cooks on a shovel, most people on t.v. especially the young kids wouldn't have the guts to even try.

[@marty6779]

He's also a man who says he dislikes manual labour. He's a TV presenter doing a bit for a show. What the hell is that even supposed to mean, "real man".

[@peterschmidt7543]

I hoped to see the full production,, some other time then ? But this “teaser” goes to show this might have been the best of Top gears greatest productions. Sucha massive undertaking it must have been. Who really cares if this was a fair race ? The train stole the whole show.. absolutely marvelous.. Fire, steel, steam and sweat. That machine like it was allowed one more run, one more proper shot. Thank you everyone involved all along the line from the Mayhamsons to Wagner.

[@rickardbergh5431]

*Standing ovations*👏👏👏

[@tyronewhitehead3123]

This is the best footage of a steam train Jeramy on board shoveling coal very romantic scenes I went on a steam train a few years ago if you get the chance go on one it takes the monotony out of life well done for the fab footage 🚂

[@Bender_B._Rodriguez]

Truly magnificent this episode was

[@nymalous3428]

Just beautiful.

[@angithanilkumar]

There's just something so magical about a steam locomotive.

[@MrAdamske]

I don't care what anyone says that train is fucking majestic.

[@mcbenman1793]

Im a volunteer at a railway in Bergen and i help clear the smokebox out and When Its open i go on the engine And shovel coal (When Its in the station)

[@tyronewhitehead3123]

Well done top gear for the amazing footage of the steam train 🚂

[@lightchipster]

The kipper cooking scene, my great grandfather was a fireman and he said they cooked eggs like that

[@the_gp9_802]

Imagine if they got Flying Scotsman for another grand tour special

[@Shakes-Off-Fear]

What a magnificent, majestic beast that thing is!!

[@tridentmusic5570]

What? Tornado ?...or JC ?

[@sharksman20rocks]

The tornado

[@keithhepworth4934]

My great-grandfather got a job shoveling coal on a locomotive when he came to America. I can’t imagine harder work but it helped give him a comfortable life.

[@walesruels]

Beautiful footage!

[@ThomasWLalor]

The cinematography is is OUTSTANDING. wow QQ !! ii

[@darrenmccoy8973]

Remember seeing that train pass my high school in Edinburgh..

[@louiesmithen7697]

What an absolutely fantastic machine

[@katerinakittycat3849]

This must have been what Wildnorwester was referring to in his "Sodor: the modern years" story "Fame and Misfortune"

[@vask92]

Awesome. Top gear was great

[@strangelee4400]

I am always amazed when I see old steam trains. Not at the trains...but the embankments and tunnels. Millions of tons and hundreds of miles...all done by men with shovels.

[@richardprice7763]

I was in the studio audience for this episode....Great day out that was!

[@18morganjay]

feels nice to be from darlington when watching this

[@HeavyTanker-vx4oq]

Tornado or Scotsman need to come to the states one more time, we finally have the Daylight, J-Class 611, and a Big boy running at the same time in history. Our 3 most famous locomotives. And Scotsman, or Tornado need to be here to see it.

[@michaelbujaki2462]

I want to see the Tornado or the Mallard go up against the PRR T1.

[@davidantoniocamposbarros7528]

@@michaelbujaki2462 Mallard is in static display at the NRM

[@HeavyTanker-vx4oq]

DAVID ANTONIO CAMPOS BARROS while yes mallard is currently in cold storage, it could be pulled back into service. It's not like it's worn out, they just want to preserve what's left of the original engine, so much of Flying Scotsman is not original, but so much of Mallard is. They want to keep as much of Mallard as possible. If anything they would bring over Bittern, or work to get Dwight D Eisenhower running in the states since it's on display here.

[@TraindudeShields]

ive kind of seen this train on the inaugural run this year if some coaches a flash of green and steam counts I saw it between biggleswade and sandy on the a1 going north

[@jeyendeoso]

i have a like in this video but i dont remember it being so epic. glad i watched it again, properly this time.

[@thetoontrain6073]

for a second I thought it was the flying Scotsman then I saw the smoke deflectors with the "tornado" nameplate on it

[@cantthinkofaname3344]

Very similar locomotives, though I believe that the liveries are different. Tornado is in LNER/BR Apple green, while Flying Scotsman is in Brunswick green.

[@GNRA1GreatNorthern1470]

This engine is basically the improvement to the LNER A3 which is scotsman class of locomotive

[@EricB-somejibberish]

holy smokes that last shot was amazing

[@arrowguy173]

Practically sobbing at 3:00. Just beautiful.

[@GeorgeLowther2000]

I would love to call this Tornado’s Finest Hour

[@terrier_productions]

What about the time she went 101mph

[@emjackson2289]

In 1963 a line was closed running steam trains, near Doncaster, in 1964 Japan ran the first Shinkansen

[@irishsixtysixfanGbrf66739]

The bell noise is the AWS (advance warning system) indicating a green signal

[@JonTheGeek]

Gotta love this train

[@alanberrisford2957]

One lucky person he is I've only been on the footplate at NVR

[@BR45723]

My dad told me about this episode when it came out, he told me this was 60103 Flying Scotsman, but she was still in the works at the time of making this

[@GNRA1GreatNorthern1470]

Its 60163 "Tornado"

[@CurmudgeonExtraordinaire]

One might argue that many trains in the UK are in effect "steam powered" these days since they are electrically powered and the electricity is generated by steam (that is made from using some sort of fuel like coal, natural gas, or nuclear as a heat source for the steam).

[@him050]

Most people these days “is there any gluten in this?” These guys here eating a kipper cooked on a coal shovel in a furnace 😂

[@ivangenov6782]

It's called fire box but ok

[@shadowxxe]

well if you have a gluten allergy I'm not sure you'd be wanting to eat something that can either kill you straight away or make you spend a bad 30 mins on the throne

[@him050]

@@shadowxxe not talking about coeliacs, just those insufferable middle aged white women who are so desperate to be interesting they claim they can’t eat wheat

[@mtfgamma6257]

America built its locomotives for pulling power, one engine capable of 140 freight cars at a comfortable 60-70 mph (granted they had a few that could top 110 for passenger service) Britian built its locomotives for speed, and hats off to em for that. I love steam locomotives.

[@duck74UK]

The quality of this video makes those flyover shots look like cgi but you've gotta remember that in the year this episode came out, to get CGI that good would've cost the entire seasons budget, these are real flyover shots from a helicopter and they look amazing

[@jasonwilde197]

Where is James May when you need him?

[@mivecsi]

I cant seem to find the full episode anywhere....would love to watch it all again.

[@mattshaw9449]

Glorious.

[@georgem3197]

Crazy that Jeremy built this sports train

[@lukez5117]

Have you noticed how the smoke thickens up after Jeremy says, I can't do it anymore 🤭

[@tommoex]

I would watch the episode of the 8 hours of Jeremy and just the train part of the race, the filming is magnificent though

[@hakunaseitata2880]

I love how such a British thing is showed with Wagner in the background.

[@thebrummierailenthusiasts5329]

They were meant to bring flying Scotsman to do this filming but the engine wasn’t ready so they’ve put tornado in charge instead