Top Microsoft executives left to start a new AI company in China. Why?

New advances in Artificial Intelligence (AI) will place ever-greater demands on computing power, and ever-faster chips to power the industry. Without such chips, AI firms will simply be unable to compete with the companies which can get them.
The export bans on the fastest and best-performing chips are intended to deny Chinese companies access to them, and thereby preclude them from building top AI technologies. However, top Microsoft executives left MSFT to start an AI company in Shanghai.
Why would a Microsoft Vice President, and its Chief Scientist, and a handful of others, be motivated to leave million-dollar careers to form an AI startup in China, if they could no longer access the world's best AI semiconductors, as they could at MSFT?
Resources and links:
Shanghai AI start-up founded by ex-Microsoft engineers bets on ‘scaling law’ to boost AI capabilities
www.scmp.com/tech/tech-trends...
Reuters, Insight: China quietly recruits overseas chip talent as US tightens curbs
www.reuters.com/technology/ch...
China Is Losing the Chip War
www.theatlantic.com/internati...
CNBC, China is still years behind the U.S. despite Huawei’s breakthrough chips, Raimondo tells ’60 Minutes’
www.cnbc.com/2024/04/22/china...
Huawei reportedly keeps getting advanced chips, even as the U.S. tries to tighten the screws on China’s semiconductor industry
finance.yahoo.com/news/huawei...
China Made a Chip Breakthrough That Shocked the World
omny.fm/shows/odd-lots/china-...

[@qingshanyipian1936]

It’s really simple. Overseas Chinese are treated as a second class citizens. They’re some of the smartest and hardworking people on the planet. They want better opportunities and better treatment in their motherland China…..

[@rogerstarkey5390]

Not to mention, sentiment towards those from another country can change in a country like America. . It can be a dangerous place

[@verypleasantguy]

USA doesn't deserve the Chinese USA deserves the Indians

[@brockabaddy985]

@@rogerstarkey5390 You've said it. If they can attack an innocent elderly Chinese woman (during the pandemic days), they can attack any Chinese, American or otherwise.

[@rudeboyses]

@@brockabaddy985 lots of white men have given up on white women in america .. even offered to send white women to africa and import asian women

[@Nowhere-from]

No, not really simple. Better opportunities? These people already reached the top.....and when people reach the top they do NOT get lazy. That's what normal people do, it's just convenient. Top achievers never get enough, and now some bet in a nation the west wants to humiliate once again.

[@vidsurf88]

Most Chinese , even overseas Chinese has a strong nationalistic sentiment to the motherland.

[@blackknight4996]

Pull and push factors both are working. China pulls them back, and their current country the united snakes kicks them out

[@verypleasantguy]

Don't lie, please If not because of the anti-Chinese sentiment in the US of A, most Chinese would be very comfortable to work in USA It's because of USA's attitude against the Chinese people, that forced many Chinese techies to leave USA to a much greener pasture outside

[@garylee9668]

some of them really hate China, crazy hatred.

[@gregwang8628]

Not the case with Gordon 😅

[@AnnieT369]

​@@gregwang8628Gorgon is half of one and half of another.

[@AnnieT369]

I am so proud of these men for returning home. How can they continue to live in and contribute to a country that continues to maliciously kick their motherland?

[@gregwang8628]

Absolutely true

[@sinic1978]

You can be of any nationality but your DNA is still Han Chinese. We Han Chinese must unite because we are one people.

[@verypleasantguy]

@@sinic1978 And they will accuse us of being *_racist_* !!

[@ahsoontan1219]

It’s the sinophobia instigated by Trump that had spread maliciously causing these migration

[@sinic1978]

​@@verypleasantguyLoL your reply didn't show up LoL

[@Ace1000ks19751982]

I am a overseas Chinese, and they are treating us very poorly. I don't blame those executives from Microsoft for wanting to go to China.

[@hungo7720]

Despite being hobbled and hampered by Western tech giants and governments, China's robust tech sector is thriving and booming.

[@jia-xj7lj]

Chinese people love their country because their ancestors once suffered a lot, if you go to understand the history of China, you will find that it is really not easy for Chinese people to become like this. Only through suffering can we appreciate the present peaceful life. Don't know why the United States insist on war, look at the people and children in those wars, really don't feel sad?

[@gregwang8628]

Overseas Chinese want to see a harmonious relationship between the China and the US, it’s the best thing for the planet, but that’s not what US have in mind.

[@verypleasantguy]

@@gregwang8628 That is why the Indians should go to US, to take up the positions vacated by the Chinese !

[@markc6140]

Because the Americans are warlike people and never born to appreciate a harmonious shared future with other countries. Their mindset is narrow minded with a Cold War mentality and only want to win whether through fair competition or unscrupulous means it’s doesn’t matter to them.

[@Sidekick618]

@@gregwang8628zero-sum mentality, that’s not going to change, and hegemonic mindset.

[@dennyli9339]

In China, you can build a company as huge as Huawei.....

[@lianfeishen6044]

even USA can't beat them down

[@shauny2285]

As long as Pres. Xi approves.

[@ManHeIsAwesome]

@@shauny2285 Yes. The head of a country should always be the one to look after the country not corporations. All billionaires in the US can run the govt, no billionaire in China can even dream of extorting the govt.

[@tbhUSuckOo]

@@shauny2285 My man discovers how governements work

[@syncmaster915n]

If Huawei was a publicly traded US company and thank god it is not, it would be the largest cap company in the world!

[@andrewlau9873]

Other than attachment to motherland, there are many reasons as well. Scientists want to research and develop new technologies. They do not like to work in a political environment where they constantly must watch their backs. They do not want to get persecuted by US Government naming them as spies! It is not all about money, they look for pride in doing their job!

[@gregwang8628]

When CIA is at their doorstep, what do you think they will do?

[@ChinaSongsCollection]

Yes agree 👍

[@Cheesecake99YearsAgo]

​@@gregwang8628 protect themselves

[@FallenLeavesBackToRoots]

The US has turned a large customer into a strong competitor. 😂

[@rogerstarkey5390]

China won't even compete "Directly". They'll just shift focus to BRICS and sell as fast as they can manufacture. . Not only that, they will build long standing relationships around 70+% of the planet. USA will cease to matter.

[@verypleasantguy]

@@rogerstarkey5390 _“你打你的我打我的”_ is what China will do

[@gregwang8628]

They got the smartest salesmen and lawyers 😂

[@davidwoon6402]

🇨🇳: The day of recognition has already arrived 🎉🎉🎉

[@LW78321]

Lol so true!

[@geoff9858]

Trump's version of McCarthyism of chinese researchers and professors is one of the main reasons they left

[@tedchandran]

Jai Hinduja. Trump is our living god and saviour. Millions of smart Indians are following Sunak, Nikki, Vivek, Fareed etc and moving to the US and 5Eyes.

[@ZincFold]

China made photonic chips like the ACCEL and Taichi for A.I applications are far more advanced than their Western equivalents and are already being massed produced by SMIC. Within the next 3 years photonic chips will practically render current chip tech obsolete and China will dominate in their production.

[@davidlazarus67]

Yes it will make TSMC obsolete.

[@hengleekai7788]

These technology still have long way to go and others part of the world are rnd too.

[@ZincFold]

@@hengleekai7788 you seem to have missed the part where I say China has already begun mass producing this tech.

[@Cheesecake99YearsAgo]

​@@ZincFold what are the names of those photon chips ?

[@frankacheampong608]

I think the one thing the US/collective west underestimates is just how many of their top scientists and engineers are not from the US or western nations. There is rarely ever a top scientific achievement made in the US or the west that didn't have the input of a foreign born scientist or engineer, and for the most part my observations indicate that these people are usually of Chinese or Indian origin. I doubt the current US administration understands how this is going to end up crippling western scientific progress when a lot of these folks go back to their countries, like these former high level Microsoft employees have done.

[@verypleasantguy]

Bingo !

[@sinic1978]

The US can keep those Indians so that it becomes more Third World LoL

[@bizhope007]

This right here👆🏽💯🎯

[@Davbach01]

Google, the brain was Sergey Mikhailovich Brin, Russian born. Apple, Steve Jobs of Syrian perents, Steve Wosnak, Polish relations.

[@tedchandran]

Jai Hind. In the future, we can foresee that 80 to 90 percents of the top STEM graduates will be Indian origins or Indians. Currently the cream of the Whites tend to gravitate to courses that are lucrative and make a lot money like Medical doctors, Laws, MBA, Accountancy and Stocks & Security analysts etc. The cream of other Asians especially Chinese origins will also move to mainstream courses due to the enactment of the Patriot Act.

[@adam91jr]

The hits just keep on coming. Thank you for your astounding research and beautiful videos of the Chinese landscape

[@americanknow8232]

Microsoft AI development division is in China. Microsoft has offered them to relocate everybody to the west for some political reason. I am sure many people quit and start their own AI company

[@buzzlightyear3715]

Basically Microsoft entices its AI enginners in China with US Green card for their families (and their kids).

[@user-vq1vq7hw4n]

They back to motherland

[@tedchandran]

Jai Hind. Nah Nah. The trumpeter had said that he will grant us Indians permanent residents once we graduate in STEM from US colleges.

[@forearth6685]

I think the future belongs to hindu hardliners instead of moderate Chinese, Good luck to all nations for religious, cultural and other freedom​@@tedchandran

[@dice138]

@@tedchandran The trumpeter should grant permanent resident to all Indians. Graduate in STEM or not. Have a happy life in U S, buddy.

[@OnivertInHouston]

Hello Kevin, there many of us in the USA that agree in what you tell us as very logical. Those that do not hear your point of view and rely on corporate news media, have no idea just how great China has become.

[@aydin6219]

I was a stay at Home disabled dad with no money in my IRA or any savings of my own, which was scary at 53 years of age. Three years ago I got a part time job and save everything I make. After 3 years, I am 56 yo and have put $9,000 in an IRA and $40,000 in my portfolio with CFA, Abby Joseph Cohen. Since the goal of getting a job was to invest for retirement and NOT up my lifestyle, I was able to scale this quickly to $150,000. If I can do this in a year, anyone can.

[@annemoore4461]

Her name is 'ABBY JOSEPH COHEN SERVICES'. Just research the name. You'd find necessary details to work with a correspondence to set up an appointment.

[@emmabeyza6036]

Been debt free for two years thanks to Abby Joseph Cohen Services. So sad to see my friends in their 40s with car loans, mortgages and credit card debt.

[@otienoroberts]

Does this nonsense you people are trying still work in this day and age?

[@briannewman6216]

If Taiwan was able to become the advanced semiconductor factory of the world why shouldn't mainland China be able to repeat this success?

[@TheGreatAmphibian]

Not a good argument. Taiwan relies on huge technological inputs from Europe and the USA: China won’t get these as things stand. By analogy, it’s like Taiwan was able to buy machine tools and hire car designers from abroad, but China is going to have make its own advanced machine tools. It’s not impossible, but is several times harder. The latest ASML lithography machines are made in the Netherlands but rely on components from a chain of 5000 subcontractors with decades of experience in very specialised and extremely precise manufacturing. Landing on the moon is much, much easier than replicating that. I think China will do it, but the Taiwan argument isn’t a good one.

[@Novideos00]

Time will tell whether if the nay sayers are right. We only need to watch this space. But America will help China’s case if they continue in their sino phobia path looking for imaginary spies among Chinese scientists and researchers.🤔

[@StephenYuan]

​@@TheGreatAmphibian On the other hand the Chinese might not need to replicate Asml's EUV systems. If they can discover a separate technology fork such as a way to increase the yield of DUV machines making advanced nodes, or leverage chiplet and packaging tech to create equivalent performance gains, they might still close the gap.

[@kl9518]

​@TheGreatAmphibian Landing on the moon, building their own space station, high-speed rail, best drones in the world, best EVs and software, and much more. All have semi conductors. Somehow, China has created these, without the help of the US and Europeans. China have a way.

[@AnnieT369]

China will do better than Taiwan.

[@sciagurrato1831]

Kevin not only covers an enormous range of topics (chips to ag equipment to university revenue streams) - he is the single most yt channel in this area - but he speaks for the highest universal human values. And that doesn’t include acquiring more things and money than anyone else.

[@mystictraveler8642]

American tech is pretty much asian tech. So many innovations and inventions because of asians in the tech space in america. Even with "thin film technology" was invented by a chinese in silicon valley. If it werent for asians, you would still be using AOL.

[@rogerstarkey5390]

I wonder how many "Asian" workers in the US will be declaring "I'm just flying home to see family" in the next 12 months, then deciding to stay?

[@mystictraveler8642]

@rogerstarkey5390 Most are leaving because of how they are treated. Especially with the current policies towards china. As of the current moment, the US has been falsely accusing, arresting, discriminating chinese professors, engineers, doctors or anyone who they think is chinese.

[@gregwang8628]

Get the heck away from the CIA ​@@rogerstarkey5390

[@verypleasantguy]

@@mystictraveler8642 I hope more Indians will flock to USA, to take up the slacks vacated by the Chinese USA doesn't deserve the Chinese. USA deserves the Indians

[@nanyanguo1]

the development n advancement in chips technology in uS in the last several decades were in fact made by scientists of chinese origin. .Have known this for sometime n learnt their names.

[@duinay3]

I live in the US, in California - 20 minutes from silicon valley - San Francisco - the Bay Area, we call it - just the crime alone in the bay area would want to make you leave the US - I lived here all my life and never seen it so bad - let me warn anyone thinking of coming for vacation or work - it is not worth it - you can literally die by getting caught by stray bullets even while you think you are safe inside your house - this is not an exaggeration as there are plenty of people who were killed this way - driving, having lunch out, or just doing normal things outside or inside thinking they were safe - of course some parts are safer than others but overall it is not safe - many shops are also closed due to crime - even successful businesses closed up and left not because they couldn't make money, but left because it was too dangerous for their employees - there are homeless people everywhere littering in the streets and making entire blocks look like garbage dumps, but they call it home in the streets and the government does nothing - so if you ask me why people would want to leave their good paying job in the US for a one way ticket to China - I am not surprised even a little bit

[@justme6275]

"of course some parts are safer than others but overall it is not safe" - nowhere is really SAFE in the BA (probably can say for the entire USA) because the thugs are driving around looking opportunities to rob. when you go out, you have to watch your surroundings nervously because you have zero security, no freedom to let your guard down - sad!

[@ngvkhtnw22]

A VERY SIMPLE fact that most people find it hard to understand is that the US is good at breaking through things from Zero to One, but the Chinese are very good in dominating things from one to 100. For many countries, even if you gave them the full blue print, they still couldn't produce the good. But for Chinese, even if they have only one third of the blue print, they can complete the puzzle and come out with a final product that is better than the original. Chinese are excellent in marathons, Americans are good at sprints.

[@aohhnirt5067]

Only wish the two countries could cooperate for the good of humanity, instead of being hijacked by geopolitics.

[@adamiskandar5107]

@@aohhnirt5067 That's probably the wish of the majority of Humanity. Peace, No War.

[@henriettasecker-shao]

Yes.

[@user-tw4xo4kj1g]

As a Chinese person, I do not accept the notion that Chinese people are not adept at creating something from nothing. Throughout history, there have been many great innovations by the Chinese, it's just a pity that due to certain factors, they did not develop into theoretical sciences. China possesses a vast number of innovative talents who are extremely intelligent and have made many innovations from scratch. It's just that, compared to the United States, they may not be as prominent yet, and many people simply haven't paid attention or understood this. The reason why China was not noticeable in the past is that it was very poor, far less wealthy than the United States. Once the Chinese become wealthy and have sufficient capital to experiment and make mistakes, I believe that innovations from scratch will become increasingly common, and one day, China will surpass the United States in this regard.

[@henriettasecker-shao]

@@user-tw4xo4kj1g you are absolutely right, good comment. Chinese are very adept at creating something from nothing. We have created so many things in the past. Uneducated, uninformed humans have forgotten this. In the future, we will surpass all. The Chinese mind is never static. Always moving forward with new ideas. xo

[@rastoferi6012]

The best of the best go to China. US can keep the glorified salesman like Jensen Huang

[@FrankiePo89]

How dare you... forget about gordonchang.

[@gregwang8628]

@@FrankiePo89😂😂😂

[@lifeisgood141]

I got to give credit to this Taiwanese guy, a CEO of Nvidia. He is smart and he is worth billions of dollars.

[@lifeisgood141]

@@FrankiePo89 This Taiwanese CEO of NVIDIA is way better than the yellow gordon chang, half-white and half-Chinese.

[@StephenYuan]

Respect those who merit it. He only invented the GPU.

[@peanut0brain]

Why? #1 anti China anti Chinese sinophobia in the ŰŠ

[@verypleasantguy]

But they won't say that They will accuse the Chinese of being 'patriotism towards their motherland' instead

[@rogerstarkey5390]

The US system is set up to require a "Bad Guy". They had USSR. . They tried North Korea (but they're not formidable enough) . China is a whole different ball game. . USA isn't going to win this one. The problem? We now have a (former) "Top Dog" with a failing system and a "Big Stick" . Will they use the stick on their way down?

[@peanut0brain]

@@verypleasantguy yep. Which gives them a deeper reason to even add more hate.

[@verypleasantguy]

@@peanut0brain Haters gonna hate, and USA is filled with *_haters_*

[@gregwang8628]

As if their Patriot Act was a joke 😂​@@verypleasantguy

[@kyekyeeminah8734]

One thing the West takes for granted is the patriotism of some nationalities. The Chinese are very patriotic by nature. Something that sets them apart from Indians. It doesn't matter the country they're citizens of. They still realize Chinese blood flows through them. They owe their allegiance first to the motherland. Russians are like that too. Very patriotic at heart! Patriotism is developed from infancy.

[@verypleasantguy]

If not for US's anti-Chinese sentiment, patriotism towards the motherland pales when compared to the $$$ they could earn in the States It's the anti-Chinese policies that USA has adopted in recent years that are forcing out the Chinese techies

[@rogerstarkey5390]

​@@verypleasantguy From the perspective of those earning the "$$$" in the States, they can take those "$$$" home, and enjoy a VERY high standard of living.

[@verypleasantguy]

@@rogerstarkey5390 Wow ! YT has decided to shadow ban the message you replied to !

[@tedchandran]

Jai Hind. Our PM is smarter and has an answer. India has now granted all ex Indian citizens holding foreign passports lifelong permanent residents to live and work in India. Now I think that Indonesia is going to implement the same policy.

[@yndiiatecow2536]

Yes they are nationalistics, look there's Gordon Chang and this chinese girl in Australia and so on. They will sell their own mothers for 🤑 let alone their own people and motherland for .three letter word and 🤑🤑🤑

[@jamesho8820]

Kudos to the overseas Chinese who have been galvanized to help China to overcome the tech sections imposed by America the hypocritical. Free and open market, fair play and rules based order are merely frivolous rhetoric intended for others but not followed by America the Hegemon!

[@prasitclinic3058]

So true.

[@SamLamphong]

We Chinese if we live and study outside of china…. We will return to the mainland. Even if it’s 1-2 generations…. Majority of us are nationalistic and return back to china because of our ancestor are all their. Example Chinese that are in Malaysia, Indonesia, Thailand, Singapore or any western countries ….. one day we have to return. Chinese are Chinese , doesn’t really matter what passport you own. You can’t really change that.

[@teac117]

I think it's not a factor of nationalism, but more a distaste of two-facing. True miànzi is important even if superficially it may get silly at times. It's tiresome dealing with people who's face is only always opportunisitic, selfish, and me-me-me. There are parts of the west that still have similar values to ours, but they're relegated to the quaint 'human trash' group that the psycopathic politicos like to refer to.

[@realvipul]

Then why Chinese are doing illegal migration to US via Latin America at this moment ?

[@jorgi6335]

As a Chinese, would you say that you are more nationalist than socialist? Or are you more socialist than nationalist? Or would just say that you are equally patriotic and socialist? And what about Chinese people in general? What is your impression of them? For example, what do you learn in the school system, and would you say that Chinese media are more “socialist” than “nationalist”? Since I come from a country in the imperial core (Norway, Europe) I have somewhat negative associations with nationalism, but I know, of course, that there’s a difference between nationalism in “oppressing” countries then in “oppressed” countries. But again, if it’s the case that China is more nationalistic than socialist, then I’d find it a bit more scary if China becomes too dominant in the world. But if the internationalist socialism is still the strongest ideology in China I would be more optimistic on behalf of humanity. I’ll be happy if you want to tell me about what your impression of regular Chinese people’s ideology is. Or if that becomes too generalizing, then I’m curious about your impression of Chinese people in your region, or at least t people that you know, in your environment. Best regards a Norwegian that doesn’t know any Chinese person 😊❤️

[@teac117]

@@jorgi6335 You can understand the chinese by noting how they greet. "Have you eaten yet?" There's a bit of shared sufferring implied in that, passed down by generations (1-2 for mainlanders, 2-4 for diaspora). This promotes a bit of empathy. This will also dilute and asymptotically approach western standards, as we proceed to many generations of 'well-to-do's' or 'silver-spoons' to borrow the western phrase. Chinese culture has no affinity towards nationalism / socialism, as both can exist, and has existed in various balances in the past, just like the west. We are just are behind you and still have the familia (filail) bonds. I'm sure there are still some segments of Norwegian population that have retained that (likely more rural).

[@jorgi6335]

@@teac117 Huh, fascinating! Where are you from in China? Are you from the countryside or the city? Yes, Norway is quite rural country compared to most other countries. So we do still have some of the more traditional ways of living in Norway. But, on the other hand, all aspects of society have changed, especially with rapidly increased, socioeconomic differences between people; partially toxic technologies from the Silicon Valley; racism, chauvinism, and xenophobia etc. but there’s still more collective feeling and belonging on the Norwegian countryside than what you get in our cities, at least the capital, Oslo, which is highly individualistic, careerist and snobby (where I’ve grown up). But it’s strange to hear that you think that neither socialism nor nationalism (or patriotism) is strong in China. What do you learn in school for example? In the Chinese educational system, don’t you learn about the great Socialists of the past and China’s socialist present and communist future?

[@rickytan8009]

Thanks to the US Government for letting this happen

[@jptrainor]

Narrative is reality for them. If they say it over and over again then it must be true. Like a religion.

[@alrent2992]

People are allowed to move around. Go where they're treated better.

[@sola4393]

tbh, putting all other motivation aside, what is the point of making huge amount of money when you don't feel safe working/living there. They've created such unfriendly environment even their citizens wants to leave. 😆

[@gregwang8628]

@@sola4393absolutely true

[@verypleasantguy]

@@jptrainor The sino phobia movement has turned into a cult, *_a very dangerous, and very destructive cult_*

[@siewkonsum7291]

Especially the top tech guys in the top US tech companies are quitting and moving over to China because it is the future for them to go higher in their life aspirations apart from other conditions pushing them to go elsewhere for growth in their personal life.

[@billmichaels4941]

Maybe they felt their future was bleak in usa n the antichinese feeling by the establishment was excessively unpleasant

[@gregwang8628]

There sure is

[@verypleasantguy]

USA is not anti-Indians Indians should all go to USA now !

[@jeanhuynh8548]

Look how racist senator Tom Cotton treated Tic Toc CEO on national TV! Now you wonder why every top scientist and engineer from foreign countries especially Chinese are thinking about making a move back to their motherland. US did it to themselves and no one else to blame.

[@iWantPeace838]

Life decisions are made according to one's need. Those successful figures are not short of esteem, money and achievement. I would think that they could see a bottleneck in their career development in the US. Safety and respect (the lack of) might be other factors for Chinese Americans too. The other possible factor could be a patriotic heart.

[@gregwang8628]

Get the hell away from CIA.

[@themiddlekingdom9121]

ByteDance founder, Zhang Yiming, used to work for Microsoft and left the company because Microsoft 's rules are so stifled.

[@ericliume]

Science and technology are borderless, but scientists have nationalities. When there is a conflict of interests, guess where they are going?

[@jameschu512]

Recently, there is an Indian on computer large language model expert went to China and is paid handsomely. He is satisfied and find the work environment very conducive. He also notices there are many foreigners working in the lab.

[@verypleasantguy]

USA should recruit that Indian !

[@MRT-co1sd]

Indians has no substances they just copy others in the industry. There are a few foreigners working in China who has no substance but can talk well with big words because they know they won’t be or cannot be made responsible for their words. They know how to game the system.

[@stellaandeddieluechin1087]

DONT YOU KNOW WHY. CHINA HAS 2 THINGS INDIA VIETNAM AND OTHER COUNTRIES DONT HAVE. ONE POWER ELECTRICAL POWER TO RUN FACTORIES AND 2 A HIGHLY SKILLED WORK FORCE WHI GIVES OUT THEIR BEST

[@rogerstarkey5390]

The MAIN thing they have? . A LONG TERM PLAN

[@verypleasantguy]

@@rogerstarkey5390 You know what USA has that China doesn't have *HOT AIR* !

[@gregwang8628]

They don’t look at quarter results.​@@rogerstarkey5390

[@stellaandeddieluechin1087]

@@rogerstarkey5390 china produces more electricity tha usa south korea japan and india combined. Hydro power electricity

[@theRedstoneinn_Dubuque]

❤👍👍👍👍👍🔥👏😍🙏❤️Kevin’s program is so enticing as it is candid, rupturing the facade of American political correctness among elites in his home country. I recommend highly to those American audience especially seeking learning and improvement.

[@harysastra]

they returned home to China because they could pour out all the knowledge they had and become kings... in the US you are just an employee

[@user-oc5ry8pp1p]

n feel safe, instead of not sure of life or death in u.s.

[@user-on3ie9uv3x]

Not only Chinese scientists, professors, and engineers should to contribute to their motherland, but everyone came from any country has the same responsibility as long as they are capable. This is one of the kindnesses of human nature. Especially when you work in an environment where you are suppressed by politicians who are hostile to the country you were born for stupid, selfish, evil reasons, you should have extra incentive to fail and fight back those politicians.

[@tonywei423]

Another reason is the India managers in the tech company in US does not like Chinese colleagues and try very hard to suppress them.

[@peanut0brain]

Indians in higher positions are dïs gűst ïng. They will micro manage and come every 15mins to pat on your back and ask "how we doing"?! I should've left after 1wk instead of 3 months.

[@consciousplanet8887]

These 3 top executives just dont want to go to jail bcos of their race. the writing is on the wall. what good is it to have so much money and be sitting in jail!

[@gregwang8628]

為了一個莫須有的羅織罪名？中情局的拿手菜😅

[@nanyanguo1]

some cases worst than jail They were witch hunted n msysteriously disappeared or found dead.

[@HiggsBoson2149]

They can see who is going to win the next election. And what he will be doing to China will be far worse than what the current government is doing. Which will only increase anti Chinese sentiment in USSA. The writing is on the wall.

[@brandonso]

They've been watching Inside China Business and decided China is the place to be to succeed.

[@biulaimh3097]

That national park looks really nice.

[@foodparadise5792]

I am an engineer too who reside in the states. We Chinese full aware we will never be treated equally here. I have kids attending elite schools. They will going back China later too.

[@neil3459]

I love your short videos offering your business insights. They remind me of Alistair Cooke's "Letter from America". Little pearls that helps one see past the headlines. Thank you.

[@willismartin9196]

Apparently the game GO, is a way of life 😊

[@derwaldbaer5707]

Thanks for the update!

[@wtf_usa5597]

Way more opportunity there. Not surprising at all. Thank you for the update! 👍

[@cherubimcherubim9515]

I am third generation of overseas born malaysian Chinese and i still look to China as my motherland.

[@othmanmajid6380]

No need to fret. All is as it should be. ❤😊

[@laurencekelly5081]

Thank you Kevin always give us food for thought.

[@TAL142]

There is a glass ceiling in the US. it is both racial and geopolitical that Chinese can make money but will never reach the roof. They will never be allowed to do what they wanted in the west. Even Nvidia chairman who is Taiwanese is treated like a second class citizen.

[@derricksmith6104]

Thank you brother!! Absolutely love all of your very important posts!! Thank you and keep me informed!!

[@Intudesia8792]

Yes, the deciding factor to be successful is always the brain or the people. The more you create difficulties, the harder they will work to be better. This is simply a human basic instinct

[@lowcc7602]

Great sharing buddy

[@joeyp1927]

"Why would they do that?" Bill Gates himself answered that question 20 years ago when he was interviewed by Tom Friedman: "The best research at Microsoft, in terms of the quality of research papers, is being done in Shanghai." Even back then, when China wasn't quite as far along in computer science and AI, they had talented and very productive engineers and computer scientists. Gates goes on to explain his successes finding talent in China. Hence Microsoft setting up its Asia labs in Shanghai. The executives are mining that same talent--only, now, it won't be for Microsoft.

[@marlbankian]

Excellent analysis site

[@rogerzen8696]

There are limit to what Chinese can be in the USA. They are trying to something truly meaningful.

[@verypleasantguy]

There is no limit to the Indians, that is why the Indians should all flock to America !

[@timmyg44]

Limited? You mean like the founder of NVIDIA?

[@rogerzen8696]

@@timmyg44He's Taiwanese. Taiwan is considered a US ally last time I checked.

[@timmyg44]

@@rogerzen8696 The whole clip was about uber-successful and accomplished Chinese in America returning home, wasn't it? Please explain.

[@rogerzen8696]

@@timmyg44 Success has many levels. A corner office and a mansion is not Elon Musk level success now is it?

[@mikemooney9124]

Great job Kevin, many thanks... well done!

[@danstenis660]

Once these returning engineers get their companies going, they are going to make 10-1000X more money.

[@johnmainville6512]

Thank you. You have opened my eyes and ears. I don't have any answers to the problems ahead for the USA. However, I hope your channel acts as a wake up call to all Americans.

[@rogerstarkey5390]

As an outside (ish) observer (UK) I see this getting dangerous unless there's a change of heart in the US towards a FAR more conciliatory attitude, going as far as to accept that at least in the short term, USA is no longer the "Top Dog". . Unfortunately, I fear that's not going to happen. . You need a true "Statesman" ("person" 😉) in charge and I don't see anyone even close to that description. . Good luck!

[@alanbgtan]

There is nothing anyone can do if the US govt failed repeatedly to challenge or compete with China. Instead USA, who is so glorified & basking in 1945s hegemonic feeling refused to compete but yielded instead

[@jordandexter7927]

I'm being amazed by new innovations on a daily basis. Thanks for the daily dose.

[@Jellybean-gz4cj]

As a Chinese person living in the West, I am constantly reminded by the media and by some people that I am not welcomed by them.

[@peanut0brain]

You are a "forever foreigner"

[@ChinaSongsCollection]

@3:22. That article at the bottom says : _"Xi Jinping picked a fight over semiconductor technology..."_ Huh??? Picked a fight? Exactly when did Xi Jinping or China picked a fight over semiconductor technology???

[@Praetorian157A]

Quantum computing is the way to go. It will open up a new world in science and technology.

[@walid7885]

Well, let's think about it for a moment. If it was true that China is far behind in chips, they wouldn't keep advancing non stop in all fields. Somehow the 3nm chips are not all that needed. Stacking up chips and using parallel programming solves the issue. For those who understand, do you remember when we were buying the most advanced chips? What was the criteria? Gigaherz. Now the tech went arounfd the Giga-herz criteria and we're talking about cores. Same thing in China.

[@dariomendoza191]

China s the Saviour !!!i bought an electrical item for my car a Gm truck the Part Cost$$120 Ac DELCO Made IN China$ 15, dollars still running Strong!! GOD BLESS CHINA!!!

[@BM-1822]

Curious about quantum computing D-wave

[@user-pl6dp9rp6v]

Really a tough decision, as even they can make very good products, they have a chance be sanctioned or banned by US politicians.

[@priscillaferguson267]

So what??? The U.S. is NOT the only market using AI.

[@ccpun3790]

I guess after certain level of material comfort, an elite person would have to come to an idea of have ego to be recognize by firstly peers and then everybody. Wasn't it mentioned in "Maslow's hierarchy of needs?" If one day India process the same kind of development environment, I think Indian elite scientist would also pack their bags and going back to India.

[@roegoleg]

In America, AI research and development is only focused on improving the bottom line to enrich corporations.

[@BJARNE-SOLBERG]

May your prayers help the world to prosper.

[@DailyBeatings]

It's because the technology center of the world is moving from Silicon Valley to China. Researchers, and by extension entrepreneurs, go where the research is...🇨🇳

[@henthust9784]

It won't be long before the Chinese beat US in computing. No one expected Huawei to tower over Apple phones, though they were always ahead with the 5Gs and 6Gs. Right now, China is sitting at 6.4G, waaayyyy ahead of USA.

[@btrue2day]

There is usually a push and pull

[@wanderingquestions7501]

Thanks Kevin.

[@MichaelLi-ms1on]

If Taiwan province can build top chips, So can Shanghai city.

[@Anonymous------]

Mainland China will make better and cheaper chips, when it does tail nation will be even less significant in the world.

[@northernsamba7388]

Let those who are engaged in AI use energy that way, instead of releasing energy to fullfil a prophecy of a cult.

[@Eyeswideopen100]

A truer statement will be hard to find...wow !

[@jptrainor]

I've been to Shanghai. Thirty years ago. I remember a scene of bus breaking down and the passengers got out and pushed it. I don't think the buses break down anymore in Shanghai.

[@ngheanchoong]

They are using EV bus

[@ez3422]

Welcome to Shanghai, you surely will be shocked again. Shanghai is a very modern city which you find out from a lot of videos in KZbin

[@user-ew5eh2co5p]

I don’t think Americans will push the bus.

[@bernardfong1019]

Go where the future is.

[@angryranger4552]

Birds of a feather, flock together. American politicians thinks Chinese can not be smarter than Americans. They should watch Harrison Ford's futuristic movie, Blade Runner.

[@peterdopson6413]

' C ' Isn't trying to catch-up. Think mapping future use/applications.

[@DrXJ]

They didn't start the trade wars.. but they sure will find ways to help their people.

[@magicsmurfy]

Gordan Chang - the America's China expert - and many people in US believe him, and pay for his salary using US tax payers' money.

[@acuantjahyadi7393]

Gordon chang lahir melalui pantat bercampur kotoran , Dokter yang membantu menangani kelahiran Gordon Chang sampai sekarang masih keheranan

[@gregwang8628]

一個願打一個願挨

[@dons6556]

He doesn’t deserve the last name “Chang”

[@justme6275]

"many people in US believe him" because dumber believe the dumb.

[@magicsmurfy]

@@dons6556 Many Chinese people flew, swam across the ocean and ended up in the land of America. Their decendents became half Chinese and half American. With his yellow skin, he could fool many local white Americans thinking that he must be an expert, while selling his own heritage out and make money for his living. These kind of fake American, fake Chinese people - I have seen a lot. They often fooled their American CEOs and flex over to China and "rule" the MNC while perceived as "expert in China" while people like us, I am not even a citizen in China, I need a work permit to work here but being here for 20 years, I cannot even claim to be an expert in China!. Anyway, these people, in my mind, are the scarvengers, maggots in our society, who prey on the ones who are not wise enough to see thru the BS from that. That is what Gordan Chang is about. He probably has not even been to Xinjiang and Tibet and started to make comments about those places. Just becoz he could speak with a fancy American accent (still fairly Chinese if u ask me, probably can't even play in the NBA or American Football team to really claim himself as an "American", so the only way he could survive is to betray his heritage as a yellow skin person. The only reason why he still has a job, is because of his mum and dad who gave him that skin colour, a heritage that he is actively betraying. How disgusting it is. The sad thing is, many westerners believe him, so naive and uneducated. Those who believe his lies also prove to be unworthy to govern. Cannot even tell the differences between facts and lies. Just politics nowadays in the land of America. So sad to see how it all end after WW2. It is a great disappoint to see the once Superman USA, becoming the Homelander USA. For many of us - sheer disappointment becoz at one point, we loved America and looked up to them a lot. That trust is now totally gone. I don't know how America can fix its image again.

[@askyalumumba3573]

I like how Chinese scientists who are living live abroad never forget about their mother land . I wonder what would the United States tech industry would be without foreign brains .

[@stanbimi]

Would any Chinese with a conscience continue to work for the people complicit in the Gaza genocide? Even Americans with a heart would not. As reported on NBC news (6/21):" U.S. airmen try to quit military over U.S. support of Israel in Gaza war"

[@liamporter1137]

Well said. Thanks for sharing and surfacing the truth. 👏👍

[@EdisonOuyang]

US government forgot to sanction those top talents.

[@bearpolo3618]

No, they didn't. Many Chinese scientists and researchers have been "sanctioned" in someway, restricted in funding, accessing advanced research projects or facilities, and career growth thanks to the policy of Trump Admin., even being harassed, surveilled, investigated, or to the extreme, arrested/prosecuted. That's why more Chinese origin science talents are moving back to China.

[@giulianoapostata]

Thanks!

[@edwardlim7253]

Good question Kevin

[@tompell3032]

i know of a friend who is 4th or probably 5th generation of overseas born chinese who still considers himself a chinese.

[@valuedcustomer94384]

I know of white americans who are probably 5th or 6th generation that still consider themselves a european.

[@billyesomann]

Watch out, Kevin SCMP is NYT of the East, you know where they stand

[@PBRStreetgang911]

In every video you put out, I love how excited you get at the end as you drive your point home, then pivot to serenity as you name the location of the peaceful video that will follow. I also react with incredulity to the actions of the west as they flail about trying to hold China back. I have come to label many of the leaders in the West as Western Chauvinists, because they simply cannot see a future where the west is not still pre-eminent. This will be to their own detriment though and their countries will also suffer on their behalf.

[@unglaubichuberlieber8048]

and i HOPE+PRAY these "microsoft engineers" also get the invitation to depart...SOON

[@bachataintimate3726]

So, i have listened more to your videos. After this one i subbed. Not many channels use logic reasoning in combination with facts.

[@zacl1077]

I won't be surprise China is working on a Chinese computer language.

[@supermodern]

What's scaling law..

[@fredrikbergquist5734]

Being knowledgable in AI and Chips, if you want to build a stationary server just add more chips! You don’t need some glorified graphics card for gamers. You can build it with chips that have a quarter of the capacity and add 4 … or 16! The advanced Nvidia chips has its place in AI controlled fighter jets, that is true. But for stationary servers on the ground it is not a problem.

[@SlimJim3082]

I hear there are also so so many indians in the US tech sector. Why aren't they doing the same thing the Chinese are doing?

[@dons6556]

They don’t have a motherland with the same advanced research capabilities, business opportunities, infrastructures, living environments to entice them yet!

[@freeqwerqwer]

As the US is waging a tech war against China in the area of AI, Microsoft moved its AI center from China to the US to guard its research while Intel opened an AI center in Shenzhen and hired China coders., to get up-to-date on China's AI research.

[@somsackvongsa7077]

Lusan.true image..!