Torbran vs Saheeli vs Zacama vs Tiamat (ft.

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[@danriemer9724]

I’m really surprised James cast Rhythm of the Wild over activating Zacama to take out the Pyrohemia. With Torbran on board, 9 damage to everyone and their creatures after he passed was known information.

[@gustavomartinsdesouza5548]

GREED

[@Red_Male]

yeah and dropping daniel down to lethal instead of killing his tax enchantment the turn after pyrohemia dies despite having an answer to it just to have his board wiped by pyrohemia anyway so it didn't even matter

[@benyura]

Right!? I'm still watching the video, but I'm honestly shocked.

[@CardboardCommand]

Hehehe

[@stevenshafer2817]

Surprising the torbran deck wasn't made archenemy as soon as pyrohemia hit the field

[@FPSveteran]

To be fair, a Tiamat and Zacama player would be the threats regardless of pyrohemia + Torbrand, but the two combined aren't anything to sniff at. If anything, the zacama player got greedy and played out their hand rather than keeping that mana open for zacama's abilities.

[@CardboardCommand]

@@FPSveteran Amen!

[@Nailgraizer]

The Zacama player needs some practice. Terrible threat assessment. Really? Saheeli is the scary one? OK bro. Enjoy the Dino BBQ!

[@collinhopkins6646]

It didn’t looking like Colin was taking the pyrohemia damage to his own life total. It does hit him and his creatures as well, just does more to opponents with Torbran out.

[@FaustTheThird]

Feels like the Zacama player repeatedly punted away any chance to win there. Why let the Torbran untap with Pyrohemia to obviously wipe your board

[@Ianoxen]

The Zacama could've played more conservatively and just used its ability to destroy artifacts and enchantments and control the whole board. His opponents would've had almost no chance at that point.

[@thomasdurso]

This game was so strange to me. I don’t understand how the torbrand and pyromhemia was not the immediate problem at the table. They even had the chance with the ugin or Zacama to pop the pyrohemia and also they could of put him low enough to activate it . I don’t think the pendrall mists was enough to want to murder someone when you had 4 creatures at the time with tons of mana. Especially with the darksteel plate and all of them being creature decks it should of been the main problem.

[@C0medySeniorz]

Ugin couldn't do anything because he was at 3 life and he could activate pyro and kill him before it resolved. But you are absolutely right. I have no clue why they didn't focus torby. I honestly felt like this game they played with such high tier decks and they played like they were new.

[@themochaman]

This was petty commander. Tbh my pod plays the same spiteful way 🤣

[@LucasDenhof]

Card transitions were kinda fast at the beginning ngl, the card appeared and by the time I look at it it's already small

[@EternalTormentor]

Shouldn't Clifftop Retreat come in tapped for James? He had only a forest :O 2:14

[@SaltyNigeria]

true

[@nicholasmckay625]

That's what I came down here for 🤣

[@Threadoflength]

1:06 wtf is that starting hand, lol

[@TBeanAndTheSundanceQ]

The following gameplay with not much happening for like 6 turns makes sense then haha

[@Erspel]

That promo Zacama art is sooo sweet

[@BelieMyBurial]

being able to afford judge promo Zacama clearly doesn't come with the ability to actually read it.

[@Erspel]

@@BelieMyBurial you're talking about enchantment removal ability?

[@BelieMyBurial]

@@Erspel yea lol

[@handbanana1674]

Yes what he should have done is held up that mana for threats and not cast that Balefire dragon right away. He could have blown up Pyrohemia and Torbrand in response and honestly probably would have won the game. Quite unfortunate

[@andrewcalebmat]

Clearly the other trhee players let Torbran win, theres no reason to not destroy Pyrohemia and theres no reason to atack with everything just because 1 Enchantment making you to pay 1 for each creature... you have a f...ING Zacama!! Did you read that card? Omg!!!!!!

[@BelieMyBurial]

so, what i'm to take away from this game is that Zacama player doesn't actually know what Zacama does? destroying Pyrohemia is absolutely more important than running out your Rhythm of the Wild, my guy. especially when Pyrohemia can repeatedly wipe your board anyway. just wtf

[@jacobcook6921]

James should have been a turn behind with that Clifftop Retreat. I'm surprised that was missed by them tbh.

[@infernalspectre]

He had Clifftop Retreat in his opener, so he could've played Retreat - Forest - Rootbound Crag and been able to play Selvala on t3, but at it was yeah that's a misplay

[@MTGDuelist8870]

Ngl, Daniel kind of screwed himself with that pendrell mists. It basically gave the zacama player a big red target to focus all of its damage at.

[@ryouji4216]

It never fails. I see my girl Saheeli being played, and they just don't get to do much. Maybe one day. lol

[@kingfuzzy2]

I've seen her cast the whole deck with an artifact version of Genesis wave on commander vs it was beautiful ( :

[@paperkid8865]

Same story every time. Saheeli shows up, but for some reason people keep the most stupid hands 😩

[@iangratton6062]

Some serious lack of threat assessment here from James. Why not play slightly more conservatively and use Zacama to destroy the Pyrohemia or the thing that would be taxing his creatures?? Why play Rhythym of the wilds at that time?? Big brain whiffs.

[@TheBalogna7]

Did I miss something or was Colin not taking damage from his own Pyrohemia? Torbran doesn't boost the damage to yourself, but Colin still should've been at a much lower life total by the end of that game. He took 3 from the first round of activation but missed the additional 11 damage from the remaining times he activated Pyrohemia. I think he should've been at 10 life at the end of the game.

[@MTGMuddstah]

That was an editing error on my part. Sorry!

[@TheBalogna7]

@@MTGMuddstah No worries! There were a lot of triggers and damage flying around that game. I just had a mild moment of self-doubt when I was wondering if I had been playing Pyrohemia incorrectly all these years haha.

[@SteakOSaurier]

@@TheBalogna7 same haha

[@paperkid8865]

Man… so happy to see a saheeli deck. But why did he keep a hand like this…

[@jacobyspurnger8488]

4:55 James should have paid one less mana and destroyed the enchantment taxing his creatures.

[@mn6334]

By the time he had mana to activate Zacama the triggers were already on the stack so he had to pay to keep his creatures anyway. The biggest mistake that turn was casting Rhythm of the Wild instead of blowing up Pyrohemia before his board got wiped.

[@ProdigalMadness]

Torb forgetting to pay 1 to keep Torb AND using the mana to pop the enchant they didn't pay for? :( Threat assessment seemed incredibly bizarre that game.

[@faerie7dragon]

Any reason people decide to just ignore the Pyrrohemia in spite of having answers to it on board? It was puzzling.

[@mn6334]

Danial couldn't do anything about it. If he had done anything targeting the Pyrohemia with either Ugin or Ulamog Colin would have just activated it and killed him in response.

[@DiabloTommaso]

Those Ulamog targets were made out of pure spite. The corret targets were pairo and plate. Or just plate if you want to be friendly

[@HansHurin]

It's not like he has an option. He dies if he targets anything on Colins board.

[@DiabloTommaso]

@@HansHurin you can go pyro rithm

[@BaikenAndEggs]

@@DiabloTommaso and in response to him targeting his pyro, Colin would have activated it and killed Danial. Danial could not target anything on Colin's board or he would've faced immediate death, fizzling Ulamog's ability in the process.

[@DiabloTommaso]

@@BaikenAndEggs so you die in any case, so make the best play

[@BaikenAndEggs]

@@DiabloTommaso again, even if Danial were to sacrifice himself by targeting both Pyro and the Plate, he would die before Ulamog's ability resolves, fizzling his ability and dying for nothing.

[@jacoboherrera428]

Uff good video I was really looking forward to a game with zacama and although it was short the appearance was great, as well as all the other decks.

[@kingfuzzy2]

Dragons ( : and zacaaaaaaaaamaaaaaaggghhh!

[@fel_95]

Damn, that was a very one-sided game Everyone had the opportunity to remove Pyrohemia safely at some point but didn't

[@benyura]

I think the Zacama player sadly earned the hate it got for not dealing with the pyrohemia.

[@lucatirelli545]

Why they focus on Zacama when indestructible Thorbrand + Pirohemia is on the table? Bad game

[@DarkEinherjar]

Why is Collin not taking any damage from his own Pyrohemia? Torbran doesn't increase it because he's dealing damage to himself, but each Pyrohemia activation should still be dealing 1 damage to him.

[@MTGMuddstah]

That was an editing error on my part. Sorry!

[@reyduston2493]

light-paws competitivo por favor !!!! que no se como hacerlo.

[@derekadkins1295]

Nope wouldn't have made the deal to keep the Shaliea player alive. After that enchament dropped should've taken him out.

[@cactuarnoob100]

4:38 I’m guessing the stomping ground damage was forgotten?

[@TBeanAndTheSundanceQ]

It wasn't used for anything so didn't change anything.

[@CardboardCommand]

Never sleep on Pyrohemia! BURN BABY BURN!!!

[@LivePhive5]

I love Torbran! But the play was destroying pyrohemia

[@sangreiti]

Getting that 27cmc opening hand bruh. XD

[@ludicrousluke2787]

Card zooming was too much, prefer the usual much more

[@dennismarinos2129]

Can't wait to see some games with the new commanders from kamigawa!

[@dezsomodos1314]

Tomer's joke at the beginning is funny.

[@highaerials36]

Weird. I am a James who is known for playing Zacama as well, and I used to play with a guy who spelled his name as Danial.

[@MTGMuddstah]

If you're in Montreal, they may be the same?

[@90spepe]

Any chance we could see the Saheeli deck list?

[@eleronpfoutz7823]

Danial was deliberately targeted.

[@Kazz1187]

Let’s go pyrohemia!!

[@CurlyHeadGod]

Lol! Muddstah's Crispy Pyrohemia Barbecue should have been the title of this video. By the end Colin was flipping the other players like hamburgers.

[@zacknair6202]

Do I feel bad for the player who’s strategy was to cheat out eldrazi Titans??? Nah I feel it was likely karma.

[@WeaterdeaTH]

Song kinda slapping today ♫

[@chaoticrevenge7950]

Awesome game but the music this time around really sucked and took away from the game imo.

[@ColorfulHelices]

James Got too greedy with that Balefire Too many spooky Artifacts and Enchantments out that he could saftely snipe

[@ivernedit]

Old but gold game

[@julianorentani1046]

classic torbran plays!! pyrohemia = burning lovee jajaja. Great video!

[@skylarwalsh5360]

Can someone explain why Colin isn’t getting hit by Pyrohemia?

[@TheRealActualPaincake]

White board tokens?? Amazing!

[@dustinpalmer]

I cannot believe he didn’t exile Kukusho

[@Kokonutzlz]

5:02 bruh

[@kvistegaard]

A great enchantment to have with Torbrann is "Braid of Fire" from Coldsnap. It adds +1 red mana per round as cumulative upkeep so it quickly grows out of hand! One of the best red ramp spells IMO, have it as an always include :P

[@scaevola]

You’re aware the mana is only usable during your upkeep step? You can really only use it to cast instants and activate abilities

[@kvistegaard]

@@scaevola sadly enough yes, but having floating red mana at upkeep is really nice for either paying for a mystic remora upkeep or cast instants with Torbrann, any izzet commander, Birgi etc is really nice :D or paying for goblin triggers :P So I wouldn't call it "only" instants and abilities! :d

[@palace_gaming2256]

What torbran deck is running mostly instants????

[@SeamusGunther]

Lovely Music this video

[@gypsieking3280]

Woot, mono red!!

[@1012musicman1012]

Wow. Where can I find these tables with almost zero interaction or removal and terrible threat assessment. Seems like all my games I can’t even play my commander without holding up some kind of response. Must be nice.

[@AidanWR]

I like the Saheeli, the GiftedV

[@MTGMuddstah]

She's the fifth of her line!

[@DarkEinherjar]

Maybe she was the 5th all along from generations of Saheeli.

[@quinoacowboy]

@@MTGMuddstah damn, the whole family lineage is gifted!

[@newoverlord9507]

daniel got a lot of hate for that pendrell mists, although given his starting hand it was probably for the best

[@rhainex5952]

Well i really don't like warching games where two players go at it allowing the one player to take over. I knew immediately that torbran was going to win with the pyrohemia out. Would've preferred a different game to watch. Games like this is predictable. I could feel the animosity between the two.

[@plain6677]

I love it when people playing tax pieces get smashed in the face!

[@dyciefisk2535]

I think that Dockside Extortionist should have cost 4.

[@obliviouslich1722]

Jesus, that Saheeli deck is awful.

[@TheBalogna7]

"Awful" seems a bit harsh. Looks to be more of an issue with keeping a bad opening hand.

[@obliviouslich1722]

@@TheBalogna7 I have my own Saheeli deck, one of my favorites to play ever. She could be a very fast, very aggressive commander, if you build it to maximize her power (like dropping a Kozilek at turn 3). And if you mind to put all the mana rocks you can get. That deck has so many cards that doesn't contribute to the overall synergy.

[@TheBalogna7]

@@obliviouslich1722 I don't doubt that your deck is fast, but you simply can not make those comparisons given the limited evidence that we saw with this deck. Based on what you said, your deck may be maximized for speed, but theirs appears to lean in the stax direction with Eldrazi finishers. Again, we have limited information so I am speculating off what was in the video, but we saw a total of 8 non-land cards from their deck that game. 3 of them were stax pieces, 2 were ramp, 2 were Eldrazi, and only 1 seemed a little out of place (Sandstone Oracle). Having a different focus also means that their maximization differs from yours as varying strategies play differently. Until we have more info, claiming that the deck is terrible simply because it doesn't look like your deck is nonsense. This game result was 100% due to keeping a poor opening hand.

[@robertochonchi3899]

daniel... wtf man, if u dont want to win pls surrender