Torchwood - CoE - Ianto confesses his relationship with Jack to his sister

[@QueenOfHeartBreaking]

*stutters excuses for five minutes* "... He IS very handsome*

[@youknowwhoiam2771]

Snake37515 he was caught off-guard

[@kparker905]

I have never seen this show before but when she said "Like an escort" and proceeded to sip her tea, I was dying laughing

[@fatimasaeed5668]

69'th like

[@112pickles]

"He's nice though, is he?" Ianto's face after she says this - perfect!

[@scotsinkilts]

Timothy Whistler a sister accepting her brother and wanting to make sure the person he is with is a good person. such a good scene. I wish his sister had more scenes with him.

[@masteraj57]

"i won't say a word, I promise" *brother walks in* "H-HEY GAY BOY!!!"

[@baders087]

That’s not his brother. That his sister’s husband.

[@BennyBringerOfChaos]

​@@baders087think they mean Ianto's brother as in brother-in-law.

[@jessicare5331]

I wish Rhiannon was introduced earlier than Children of Earth. I would have loved to see more of their interactions.

[@nobodyshekatonchires]

Me too

[@GetRekt-bw6pu]

Ditto.

[@clashpanda120]

Yea, team Carol!

[@wiezyczkowata]

same, interactions with Johnny would be hilarious

[@IcominguprosesI]

this is my favourite scene from the entire Torchwood series. The third series was so dark and intense and when this was going on Jack and the team were close to failing and then this moment happened in the middle of all that confusion and fear this normal conversation between siblings happened and it was just the simplicity and reserved nature of the topic that just made it so powerful and amazing....i love it so much...then when Ianto dies all i could think of was him saying "it's weird it's; just different; it's not men; it's just him; it's only him" gosh i could cry now

[@Puzzsta]

Beautiful edit for a beautiful scene. "It's not men, it's just him. It's only him." It's a line like this that puts RTD on a whole new level of depicting relationships. It breaks my heart that throughout it all, Ianto never truly knew where he and Jack stood.

[@G_Wanna_Be]

Puzzsta Go listen the radio drama The House of the Dead! In my head its totally canon, because that's the only time they confess their love to each other. (warnings, it's still a very very sad story)

[@KBlocker29]

Windsor Wong Do you mean Deadline? I searched house of the dead andnit came up some bad film from Lionsgate.

[@G_Wanna_Be]

Keisha Blocker the radio drama series is called "Torchwood: The Lost Files" and House of the Dead is the 3rd episode

[@KBlocker29]

Windsor Wong oh goodness. Thanks for sharing I think. Right in the feels. It

[@TammiTuthill]

+Windsor Wong I just got done listening to it... absolutely heartbreaking and so beautifully done.

[@armychic15]

I love how he admits the truth by admitting how handsome Jack is...how he closes his eyes just before he does so, and how calmly he tells his sister to "stop it" afterwards. Ianto is so sweet and beautiful. One of my all-time favorite scenes:)

[@johannahyde-parker8422]

he didn't deserve the fate he got

[@yamidelacroix6729]

Ianto: "It's just him...it's *only* him" Me: *cries* oh Ianto...I understand. His sister's face is like 'this sounds like he's in pretty deep.' and then he looks at her like 'do you...do you understand? Cos I...I don't'

[@emma-jp3oc]

"It's not men, it's just him." wOw that shook me, he put the finger right on what I feel : do I also like girls or is it just... *her* ?

[@louvie1066]

I love how everyone thinks people have specific gender attraction. It might be a thing, but so far I'd say you don't fall in love with a gender, you fall in love with a being. Everyone is asking me which side I am on. But I've never loved anyone yet, so how should I know? I find some people attractive, and it's usually not the majority standarts. There was this one star everybody was all about. Considerated a sex symbol. I just wanted to punch him in the face. XD

[@impossibledial]

Louvie some people have preferences and some don’t. Personally I don’t, I just think everyone’s hot but some people can only be attracted to someone they have an emotional connection with.

[@rtozier2011]

Perhaps by the 51st century same-sex couples could easily have biological children together, and various extinction level events caused society to frequently be made up of small, occasional single-sex groups, which would give an evolutionary advantage to people predisposed towards bisexuality, and society figured out a way to make its members more and more sexually attractive in order to increase the chances of procreation and continuing the species. Thus anyone from the 51st century travelling back to the 21st would be able to attract any partner, regardless of that partner's prevailing orientation.

[@themoistfeltlipsofsatanasamupp]

So how’s this going now?

[@taisgrim]

I know the black and white clips are supposed to be dramatic but I'm just laughing my ass off at them

[@tbody111]

Same 😂

[@hildakajrup1550]

Same

[@oliviajones6892]

I haven’t gotten this far in the series yet and I’m sat here thinking “god I hope this isn’t the final version they put on tv” the cuts are strange and one of the clips had a BBC logo in the corner. Lol.

[@shreyasiroy3579]

Same...

[@thallium6754]

early 2000's tv gothic 🤣

[@maverickday1817]

I kind of feel bad for Ianto in this scene, he just looks so uncomfortable

[@ayeletdrago]

Well she WAS kind of pushing him to come out

[@gigibluestockings5168]

Maybe he was JUST realizing/verbalizing that he LOVED Jack.

[@rylee_dads_bestie69]

And then her husband came in and said “hey hey gay boy”

[@emsicombs827]

"I kind of feel bad for Ianto in this scene, he just looks so uncomfortable" : this shows how Gareth David Lloyd's performance in its Ianto's character is a total success. But really, both actors here are very "true".

[@indigoluna7374]

I really think he had to die because universe couldn't take this much cuteness and awesomeness

[@MiFelidae]

I would hazard the consequences ...

[@rickstokes1]

I missed something, how did he die?

[@daisy6545]

Richard Stokes in jacks arms

[@wiezyczkowata]

@@rickstokes1 got poisoned by aliens that abducted kids to get high

[@Mrhojalata98]

This entire scene! seriously! SUCH an outstanding performance. The way it was written, the way the actors performed it, everything about it was genius. one of my favorite moments in all of torchwood.

[@nibnob7]

I think this scene can really serve as a contrast against one of season 4's problems in that to sate its mainstream American audience, it became so much more rigid in its exploration of sexualities. In the earlier seasons you had characters exploring their relationships with different genders in different contexts and this was very fluid. I feel like season 4 took away so much of jacks sexual ambiguity and made him just "gay" so that he would be less threatening. Just thoughts

[@megmorningstar4250]

I still didn't watch the last season (and I finished seasons 1-3 probably 10 or so years ago xd) but my friend watched it and said basically the same thing. And I'm sad, because after coe I was expecting something at leas as good. But well. One can dream.

[@elizabethtaylor3510]

I just now finished watching Torchwood and this is just heartbreaking! It's so sad he died without knowing what he meant to Jack.

[@orange-gd4ky]

+Elizabeth Taylor god, I'm absolutely dreading finishing it. I know what happens, but I've got about 5 episodes left. BUT, I can tell you that in the audio books Jack tells Ianto that he loves him.

[@elizabethtaylor3510]

whovian11 Thanks! I need to find the audio books! :-)

[@elsiemacdonald2015]

Listen to house of the dead the audio book its just like aghhh amazing for all janto fans its on iTunes

[@annietrenoweth439]

+Elizabeth Taylor they're on the SoundCloud

[@apeshrujmel6681]

hey Ianto, if it's any consolation, I'd go gay for Barrowmen too.

[@emsicombs827]

Consolation ??? I think Ianto has no ned of any consolation ! He is plenty happy, and lets himself stay in this hapiness without feeling any bad or having to be cheered up. He is sure about his feelings, he has just some difficulties to express. As we know, he is not a "talker".

[@Lexiy76]

Heartrendingly beautiful. Wonderfully done. CoE broke my heart, and I've never been able to re-watch it.

[@kimberleymorris8052]

Me too!!! I have the DVD and I will never watch it also have the miracle day dvd but that's just sitting there NEVER to be watched

[@KBlocker29]

CoE hurt me so much I couldn't finish the show.

[@Lexiy76]

Keisha Blocker Oh, trust me, the ending could break a person. You're a lot better off than those of us who saw it.

[@TigerPrawn_]

I did rewatch it and then my mum came in and ruined the moment! Noooo!

[@suekelley2109]

I’ve never been able to watch it at all. It was only this last week I watched the death scene on You Tube and then this video.

[@kparker905]

I have never seen this show before but a couple hours ago I randomly stumbled upon a clip of 'Jack and Ianto' and now I have been watching pretty much all of the little cute scenes and their kisses that I can find here on youtube, and I watched that panel interview at comicon and it was HILARIOUS. Oh, and I said that to say, although I have never seen this before, when she said "He was gorgeous" and it cut to Jack I felt like he was saying, "Well, if I do say so myself". And then when she said "Like an escort" and continued sipping her tea, I was dying

[@elsiemacdonald2015]

You should watch it its on American netflix

[@prof.evilpictures8696]

K Parker please watch it don’t spoil it for yourself. It’s called Torchwood and it’s a spin off to Doctor Who.

[@kariscoyne1886]

honestly s/o to Ianto Jones for introducing baby!bi me to the idea that sexuality doesn't have to be concrete or completely established in your teens

[@iheartbritboys]

'Like a film star! Like an escort....' hahahahahahahaha

[@daisy6545]

“Like an escort” sips tea

[@laylao3483]

It’s not men it’s just..him, its only him- literally any male character who thinks they’re straight then fall in love with their blue eyed black haired best friend

[@phrogwing]

I am wheezing lmaooooooohvv bbcgfcgfhcfgcfgcrhcgfhcgr

[@anthonyj.crowley7440]

*cough cough* sherlock

[@sakshikhatavkar3562]

Are you mayhaps talking about John with Sherlock?? Or is it Arthur with Merlin?? Maybe it’s Steve with Bucky?? Or heck is it the OG ship to fit this trope-Dean to Castiel???

[@lexmcmillan8033]

@@sakshikhatavkar3562 or Clark to Bruce?

[@arlocourtney4594]

ianto... come back to us...... :'(

[@johntate6537]

Can I just make a shout out for Katy Wix who plays Rhiannon? What bloody brilliant acting! There is so much nuance going on here. I can't tell even after having seen this scene numerous times whether she is genuinely upset that she feels she's been squeezed out of her brother's life, or if she is just being a sneaky sister and pushing his buttons to wheedle this juicy bit of gossip out of him. Just fantastic. And Gareth David-Lloyd is of course wonderful, but he was throughout the series.

[@emsicombs827]

I totally agree with you, John. We focus on David-Looyd (fantastic) but the way he answers his sister's questions is leaded by the way she speaks and asks. On hr face and in her voice there are plenty of nuances

[@nobodyimportant5789]

idk how but I am just now realising this is THE Katy Wix!!

[@chadamwilson8268]

"You never tell me anything these days" broke my heart! 😭😭😭

[@stischer47]

One of the best edits on KZbin. Thanks!

[@TheZuzak]

Thanks, I tried so hard to do my best and really "see (and love) Jack through Ianto's eyes" and I'm happy it seems I succeeded :-)

[@Darkrose517]

I love this! I haven't watch this show, but I'm going to! This is a beautiful coming out scene! I love the sister's reaction and the point where Ianto just gives up and says that Jack is handsome.

[@rez-ye]

I was looking for this exact scene! :0 thanks for not adding that douche part with his brother! :D

[@TheZuzak]

I also hate that abrupt and not very pleasant ending to this touching scene, so I did my best to cut it out :-)

[@KateCat420]

TheZuzak Thank you!! ☺☺

[@PABWECG]

My heart just melts...and breaks all over again when I watch this clip...I miss Janto so much! They were so sweet and so funny, and so perfect!

[@MonikaS1890]

Magnificent! :D wonderful editing and the music fit very well. And Jack was sooo handsome here in black and white.

[@emsicombs827]

So... that means that in the TV show, the real episode does not include this ??????? It's just a talk between brother and sister, without the "thinkings" in Ianto's head (given by the black and white images) ??? Well, I supposed I should have guessed that because of the BBC logo staying on the black and white photos, a professional would not have let this. But I suppose I wanted to believe that this was the real scene... So we have to keep it preciously, thinking of the day this video won't be shared anymore ! I supposed some babies in Wales and elsewhere were named Ianto in this period... (and still are, probably)

[@Shinigami0512]

Omg this is perfect! One of my favorite scene so wonderfully edited! ❤

[@skyandclouds5625]

Honestly, this is one of the most beautiful edit i've ever seen ! This is art 😍

[@The.Badger.]

“It’s not men. It’s him. It’s only him.” Dude, you love him. Simple. ❤️❤️

[@kparker905]

I am loving this sister

[@raylafont8345]

She's good in 'Not Going Out.'

[@NeonlightRebel]

"Like a film star. Like an escort!" :D Yeah, that's just Jack, isn't it? He and Ianto were such a cute couple :(

[@emsicombs827]

I just will add my voice to the numerous ones who thank you and I agree with everythinig positive which has been said, including the music (which stays in a background and does not cover the voices, as it often occures in the videos edits) and the fabulous fact that you cut the scene before the entering of the brother. You made a fabulously sensitive work, since the black and white images you introduced are (in my opinion, even if I saw negative comments about them) in total adequation with Ianto's silences and hesitations before speaking : as a matter of fact, we may suppose that Ianto's brain is full of Jack's images. So your photos refer to this. It could have been a real effect the producers could have used. I'm discovering Torchwood (it was time, after 10 years of Dr Who fan practicing, and arriving at my70s) and I was so happy with the idea of this long and fabulous scene (just a bit surprised by the BBC logos staying on the photos, but that was a detail). And now... I'm understanding that this is not the real episode of the TV show !!!! How decived I am, above all learning that the dialog in the show may be shortenedin som versions (as you say further down in on of your own comments) ! Anyway, what a beautiful moment you gave to us, The Zuzak ! A million of thanks to you, and please do let this video in this place as long as possible !

[@helenbelova8388]

Incredible clip. Very very touching. Thanks for job!

[@ladderstothemoon7415]

God I miss torchwood it always manages to rear its head in my recommended every now and then

[@kimberleymorris8052]

I always want to forget that this series ever existed killed off my ianto

[@KateCat420]

I just ignore his death like it never happened, and I pretend he's still alive... On the bright side, fanfiction is always more than happy times help me pretend.

[@EditedAF987]

And there are a ton of big Finish audios with him that are set before CoE

[@444satin]

"chRIST OH MIGHTY" i just burst out laughing and i seriously have no idea why

[@Charlie-yq8hu]

It's Christ all mighty, a very comman phase where I live

[@deanwinchester1024]

from searching doctor who i ended up here. Im gonna look for this show and love it to the end! this ship is canon

[@elsiemacdonald2015]

Its on u.s netflix just search Torchwood

[@EterPuralis]

I really wish there was a clip of this without the fan effects.

[@TheZuzak]

Well, you can always watch the actual episode :-)

[@EterPuralis]

Yeah, I know... I'll have to find it again >_>Don't suppose Swedish Netflix has it (-_-)

[@jennifertingelof-truecrime5890]

It doesn't D:

[@LoveLife-eo4xk]

I downloaded all of the seasons 2 years ago. I couldn't find all of them on Netflix,youtube,vimeo or any other site to watch online. II wa sin love with JAck & torchwood & i was so desperate to watch all episodes. Luckily someone shared the torrent link with me & i downloaded all seasons from Piratesbay.in

[@magicjalapeno862]

I dont know what episode is this though

[@catherinehaynes4658]

The tears I've cried for them over the years...perhaps the greatest love story ever.

[@wanderingshadow1372]

How RTD writes LGBTQ+ relationships: "It's not men, it's just him. Only him." How Moffat writes LGBTQ+ relationships: "Lovely name, Rory. First boy I ever fancied was called Rory. Wait actually, she was called Nina. I was going through a *phase* ." One treats LGBTQ+ relationships as a beautiful thing with so many different variations to compensate for the difference between every person on the planet, and the other refers to LGBTQ+ relationships as nothing more than "a phase".

[@cinny1313]

I was so mad over the "phase" line. Just let Clara be the bi queen she is pls

[@eggnorman]

"Have you gone bendy?" I died xD

[@TheZuzak]

The music is Darin Sysoev - "Come" :-) It's russian composer, found him like ages ago somewhere around the internet; he has some good pieces I like (Palm Sunday, Heartbeat, Come...), but also there are songs of his that I just don't understand at all ;-)) As far as I know he mainly does music for movies.

[@annietrenoweth439]

I love this version of the scene

[@KayleighNatasha]

This is such a heart warming scene

[@morganring8385]

Beautifully cut together!

[@thomashernandez8700]

In full scene, she said "do you take it up...."

[@Cheesemonster111111]

This is a gorgeous video. Well done

[@masteraj57]

"have you gone bender?" pfft, subtle.

[@BizzlMix]

Thank you for this video!!! I started smiling, then I grinned, suddenly I had tears in my eyes and then I laughed and at the end I cried.

[@NevynSlash]

I love the pacing, the music and the white and black tones. This was so well done.

[@TheZuzak]

Thank you very much, I'm happy you like it :)

[@Sen369]

Oh god the feels.

[@tkpopulr]

Oh jeezes.. annnd now I'm crying. Lovely. I miss these two.

[@MrTambourineMan.]

Ianto’s family is wonderful. Wish we saw more of them

[@ceinwencooke2603]

What I love about Torchwood is that before I watched it, I would always notice gays or whatever, and now after watching Torchwood I dont even notice anymore

[@jaxmanx]

Welsh accent makes me laugh its so damn cute.... Mmm

[@emsicombs827]

I love it and never understand why Doctor Who focuses so much on Scotish particularities, and makes so few cases of Wales particularities. We could think the serie is a Scottish one. Apart from Ddrwg ci (here in Brittany we say "Ki droug", almost the same tongue), there is no link with Wales, and I regret it. So I appreciate the Welsh context in Torchwood.

[@Book7BrokeMyBrain]

Thank you! I have never been able to find this scene anywhere whenever I wanted to use it as an example in a discussion. Sherlock brought up lots of talks about fluid sexuality, how it's possible to have your switches flipped by someone not your usual gender, like gay Irene Adler and straight John Watson both being infatuated with Sherlock.because he's just all that. I mention Ianto's line all the time: It's not men, it's him. Perfect. Beautifully cut together, too. Love this scene so much.

[@wanderingshadow1372]

Torchwood did it a million times better than Sherlock though because, unlike Moffat, RTD actually knows how to write LGBTQ characters.

[@Book7BrokeMyBrain]

@@wanderingshadow1372 correct. Gatiss should have been all over Moffat learnin' him some LGBT basics. Thanks for taking me back nine years in a flash. Makes me feel like a Time Lord. Lol.

[@pandoricaferguson5201]

One of the best scenes of CoE. tks

[@Hexinghaley]

This was amazing!!! Thank you!!!

[@hollipop1988]

That made me burst into tears, but really happy tears...i ship them so much that it hurts

[@dorotheav.l.1763]

Ianto!!! 💐💞😁

[@ElisabetWolf]

Perfect just perfect!

[@valekiller]

This is bloody brilliant

[@rebeccalambert3240]

Me, frantically: he comes back to life and then finally knows what he means to Jack he comes back to life and then finally knows what he means to Jack he-

[@_____2219]

You should probably go read that fix it fic in ao3 where ianto gets spat out by the rift a millennium later after the events of torchwood.

[@cinny1313]

​@@_____2219you can't just say something like that and not link the fic in question

[@kiras9518]

Someone keeps putting a bowl of onions next to me! D;

[@sillybanana6565]

Hate it when people do that someone put 5 bowls next to me when I was watching doomsday

[@TammiTuthill]

Beautifully edited.... well done!

[@TheZuzak]

No, this is from normal version, seems they really changed for Netfix...

[@confaulk38]

Love this!!

[@hannahrumney30]

Oh yeah he is gorgeous...

[@knightley8643]

This is so touching, I love it

[@TigerPrawn_]

This is so dramatic. I love it.

[@Cleptrio]

Ianto I loved you!!!! :'(

[@TheZuzak]

Well, yes, this is my own fan video, I spent hours makin' it up :-) Thanks :-) It's just someone here said he does not recognizes some lines from the original scene between Ianto and his sister, so I thought maybe the dialogue itself was shortened in some version of the show. This version with black & white "memories" inserted is of course my fanwork :-)

[@TheBrennaAlexandera]

The scene with Ianto and his sister is on Netflix. I know because that's where I saw it. But ONLY the scene with Ianto and his sister, not the cuts with Jack and Ianto. It was a short scene but obviously someone did some work to it to make it a fan video. Lovely work, by the way.

[@maxbs67]

To me this is the best scene of the whole show, she makes me laugh every time!!

[@audreyanna7628]

My feeeeeeeeellls Whhhyyyyyyyyy Ianto... :'(

[@jaxmanx]

Ps torchwood is now on bbci player as of today

[@bambii49]

Omg!!! The jack and Ianto feels!!!! I love this!!!!

[@oOApplesOo]

I'm so gla I actually bought the DVD's and didn't miss this.

[@TheZuzak]

You're welcome, and thanks for nice comment :)

[@MakiaLink]

Wow! This version of the scene is NOT on Netflix! Its exciting to see it, but I can understand why they may have cut it. The flashes of Jack really draw out the main point of the scene which is for Ianto to come out to his sister. I wish they kept some of the dialogue they cut and at least a few clips of Jack. Thank you for posting this video!

[@siobhancapelin3075]

MakiaLink it's probably cause this version of the scene as far as I'm aware is fan made that's why you can't find it anywhere x

[@TheZuzak]

Definitely 100% Jack :)) Sad that they are over... :(

[@TheZuzak]

The dialogue part is taken from 1st Ep of Season 3

[@claire1461]

This is beautiful

[@mrsholmson]

I love this video!

[@ceinwencooke2603]

I MISS JANTOOOOOO

[@nellherself]

I can confirm he IS very handsome

[@lunacxx1330]

I mean he is gorgeous

[@wiezyczkowata]

we needed more Rhiannon

[@TiranimaQ]

Tell me again why did Ianto had to die? I still want him back. 😩

[@EditedAF987]

TiranimaQ Big Finish have done a ton of stories with him set before his death. He even recently had a story where he and Jack went undercover as a married couple in a Suburban neighbourhood

[@emmybm15]

I really can't believe I forgot Daisy from Not Going Out played Ianto's sister Rhiannon! (Katy Wix) But then again I wish I could just forget about CoE and have Ianto back but that ain't ever happening T___T

[@nobodyshekatonchires]

I wish we'd seen more of his sister

[@Shaaydiia07]

I want to continue watching torchwood but it’s nearly impossible when I hate Owen and Gwen so much

[@ShadeSlayer1911]

I thought it was "Have you gone bender?" Bender being the British term for gay, I think.

[@brinagulic4185]

Isn't it bent? And its derogatory.

[@talfrynvalilian8327]

how did i get here- i have no idea what this is but i lowkey wanna watch this show now

[@MariadelRosarioLC]

What is the name the piano song..?? Is beautiful!!

[@TheZuzak]

As I was already answering before, the music is Darin Sysoev - "Come" :-)

[@hussinyusof]

I miss you ianto