Toro 60V Super Recycler - A Comprehensive Review (Model 21568)

[@JimmyLewisMows]

Hey everyone! I know my videos are not normally this length, but I wanted to include as much detail as possible. If you gasped at the length of this video, please browse through the chapters located in the timeline or in the description and pick and choose what interests you. Thanks for watching!

[@markrobinson891]

I really wanted the most detail possible. I bought the 60 volt snow blower which had a great workout this winter in Utah…really punches above it’s weight. Long term life expectancy of battery devices may never match ICE power. My current mower is the Toro 30” timesaver which I suspect could fetch a good price on local want ads. Mine is about ten years old…new carries a current sticker price around $1500. I have no ability do demo the new mower nor option to return it if it doesn’t meet my demands. I’m happy to reduce emissions. Also your comments about the design of the handle reducing shock over uneven spots in the turf. I’m ready to pull the trigger after your excellent review(s).

[@SiXX5150]

Thank you for your review! I've been using the same Super Recycler since early June and agree with most of what you've said. I'll add another pro... part availability. My kids left a rock in the yard that I neglected to notice... notched up my blade pretty good. Went to my closest hardware store (mom & pop) and was able to pick up the exact OE 21" Toro blade that came with the mower (they call it the "performance" blade with this mower, but it's really the same 21" blade they've been using on all the SR mowers for years). Certainly made my life easier that afternoon and should imply great long-term support. Also - I believe the Toro mowers are the only electric mowers that allow for actual washing of the underside of the deck with a hose... every other manufacturer I looked in to stated NOT to do this, but to use a damp rag instead.

[@bknotts13]

Thanks for the sneak peak at your shed! Looks amazing can’t wait for the real reveal!

[@trevormuggeridge4560]

First Aussie 😁. Jimmy, Another great comprehensive review. 😎

[@familybarton]

Also, I felt pathetic getting excited about seeing your shed reflected in the sunglasses. 🤣

[@dantrevorrow6312]

Love the Whisperer shirt. Perfect subtle shoutout to our brother in lawn who is out of commission!

[@AaronKash-ml3or]

I see this video is a year old but I’m considering this mower for my lawn in SW Ohio. I have 9500 sq ft of thick, healthy fescue and typically like to cut one a week to maintain a 4” height. Could this 7.5ah battery last or would a second battery be needed? Perhaps there is another video discussing battery run time? Thanks for any help!

[@LL-mt2nz]

Runtime is about 50 minutes with performance blade. If you are mowing weekly, you will get the advertised runtime

[@williamcobb6322]

Thank you for your review. Currently thinking about purchasing an electric mower, but not sure whether to pull the trigger. You excellent reviews give insight on the electric side of things.

[@jkprojectsnstuff697]

I agree with buying into the Toro 60V family. I have the 60V 2021 Super Recycler, snowblower, and chainsaw. I love them all! The product that is missing from the Toro 60V family is the power supply generator like Ego's 3000 watt Power Station. If Toro had one, I'd be buying it today!

[@WatsitTooyah]

There is a new 330 watt inverter for the toro 60v batts.

[@eyecamdy]

Toro, after watching dozens of videos to help me make a decision on which brand of electric mower to choose, I am very impressed by the super recycler but must admit being put off by the fact I must order (free of charge) the rear side discharge option upon registration, while your competitor includes this part at pos.

[@LL-mt2nz]

If you purchase from a local dealer they will have everything ready for you - even warranty registrations

[@mellowjammer]

I know people hate mulch plugs but that is going to provide the proper contour on the underside of the deck for the best air flow. The regular Recycler's design with the 2 position handle/flap is not conducive to providing a smooth airflow pattern which will result in less than optimal cutting/mulching/bagging. There are probably other mowers which have the contoured mulch plug shape built into the large rear spring-loaded flap on the rear of the deck that covers the discharge area, but do they fit tight and stay that way during mowing? I don't know.

[@JimboHurt]

Excellent video. Wife won’t let me spend anymore money on the yard. Will hopefully go for it next year 😂 Looking forward to a father Reno update video hopefully!

[@KamfaKing]

Good solid informative review, thanks! I plan on buying this model next week - just over 1K at the local Toro dealer here in Canada.

[@LL-mt2nz]

I can’t even find one. I’m also in Canada. I was told to try in March of 2023

[@KamfaKing]

@@LL-mt2nz Bummer. I just picked one up today, last in the store. Runs & cuts like a dream, and I haven't even tried the performance blade yet. At 60+ yrs of age I have seen a lot of grass, and a lot of mowers over the years. So far I am a very satisfied customer.

[@familybarton]

Really nice and thorough review. Thanks Jimmy

[@1975oldschool]

These battery tools are becoming like battery powered tools.... if you’re in the line, makes more sense to stay in that line. Never thought that would be a reason to buy or not buy into the battery OPE. Nice review 👍🏻

[@JasonWjddphotography]

Great. thx for the vid! I'm invested in Milwaukee tools, and would love their mower, but that price is just exorbitant. I'm now weiging this Toro and a Makita. I do kind of like the idea of the multiple smaller batteries for the makita & using those in the other lawn tools - but I may still get Milwaukee yard tools. Who knows. I really appreciate the review on this unit, really compelling to have me consider it.

[@JasonWjddphotography]

Btw: I got the Makita and love it.

[@LL-mt2nz]

If a snowblower is ever in your future, get the Toro

[@JasonWjddphotography]

I think I'm getting an Ahrens

[@PacificNorthwestLawns]

Awesome and thorough review Jimmy. Well done man 👍🏻

[@ts-ov5qz]

Thanks for the review. I think there is one possible fix for the handle height adjustment for those who need a lower setting. Why not pick up a pair of smaller bushings? Having said that, Toro should have at least two different size bushing sets included for this reason. It's sad an expensive mower is sacrificing handle adjustment flexibility for a little cushioning. A smaller grommet would compromise cushioning but I think a lower handle would be a good trade for those who need it. Certainly a design change would be the best move. For now this seems like an economical, if not, ideal fix. Might be worth a try. Cable adjustment aside, it seems that setting the correct height is required to prevent binding due to the curve in the grip's shaft. It's what you see when viewing from the side. And that kind of ties into complaints about getting the drive to completely disengage for turns. I saw one video where the operator had to yank on the grip to disengage the drive. I would think forearms parallel to the ground, or hands slightly higher/lower than elbows might yield the smoothest operation. That makes height adjustment paramount. Good luck with only two settings. Pure speculation on my part, however. Thanks again for the review.

How’s the performance at lowest setting? Do you reckon this would cut thick bermuda at 1 inch. Looking to replace my Ryobi, would like to know. Thanks.

[@allensadicario5196]

Thanks for the info buddy good show

[@MrKalin35]

Can you confirm which blade is the performance blade? I swapped mine out when first getting my toro then looked at the part number and think by default my mower had the performance blade but not certain.

[@pargoff]

Is the cut quality and suction as good as the gas-powered equivalent?

[@dantrevorrow6312]

Great review. I have the Red 60v recycler that you referenced and like it but am looking to upgrade the mulching capability. Do you feel this super recycler is a significant improvement in mulching ability?

[@WatsitTooyah]

I have the same model you have. I got a 22" recycler blade (I think made for the gas version) and it is actually slightly longer. Ive noticed marginally better performance and it certainly goes into higher RPM more readily. However I sometimes notice when the grass is damp that material gets built up around the sides because there is less clearance I assume. have to tip it and clean it out several times if its wet which I don't remember being a problem on the original blade.

[@usg9652]

Would you recommend this mower for Bermuda that is cut at around 1.5 to 1.75 inches?

[@ronmatthews2250]

How would you compare this mower to the gas ⛽ super recycler ? Is the gas ⛽ mower more powerful with the 163 cc ?

[@klubberizer]

How does it perform in summer heat? I’ve seen and heard of people having their battery mowers shut down due to overheating in the summer.

[@robertokine3533]

Hi Jimmy l have just had this mower order to be shipped to West Africa. My question is can one use the charger on a 240v outlet or only on 120v.

[@tmontemage22]

What are my roller options with this?

[@Dstromb232]

I bought 3 of these as gift for my 2 sisters and brother as gifts and they love them. I wished the mower came in AWD! I own a gas AWD Toro Because I have a in climb on my side yard .

[@JimmyLewisMows]

AWD would be nice!

[@richard00langdon]

Ryobi makes a whisper quiet four-wheel drive 🏆

[@clydesdalelawn]

Great video! Always like the Toro, I currently have the Milwaukee M18. Sold the Timemaster and went with this. I have 9000 sq ft and 2-12 amp H batteries have plenty of capacity left in thick Bermuda grass. Don’t have the time to do a video. You should try and do a review of this mower. I love the power, simplicity, lights and narrow footprint for storage 👍

[@JimmyLewisMows]

I was very close to trying it this season. Maybe next season 🤞

[@lawnguy]

Nice review, Jimmy. Electric still has a ways to go before I make the switch to a mower

[@peterscanlon9727]

Great review! A few minor design changes and it might be perfect. Is this unit and all electric 21” ers too light duty to support a striping kit? Also, I thought you leveled your back yard? It’s still a little bumpy? One more thing, I don’t own an electric mower, (interested) but have Ego tools. Could you do the same review on a similar equipped Ego? Thanks

[@oldmanwaugh]

Will you review a Toro Stripe soon? I see the SR and Stripe as valid choices for a consumer who wants the 1" HOC (battery Recycler only goes down to 1.25")

[@JimmyLewisMows]

Probably not. I know others will though.

[@corgiclan]

Love this mower, but it is almost impossible to raise the wheels! As a female it is next to impossible for me to move the levers. Any tips?

[@LL-mt2nz]

Try without the battery installed. The mower will be much lighter.

[@mellowjammer]

Yes, it sucks! and the access to the back levers is not good and there are no markings. You have to go to the manual to see what height of cut is for each lever position. And like all of these old style levers, as soon as you pull it back, the deck just wants to sink down to the lowest position.

[@troutman1951]

Pretty good review. I own the Super recycler first gen. Battery version which came with the 6.0 amp hour battery and can mow my 4,000 sq. ft. Tttf/KBG lawn on one charge with about one bar of four left. I would add to your review the weak cabling arrangement, they are not tidy and it causes me to really be extra attentive mowing near bushes and other items near the edge of the lawn for fear of catching it in something. Also, personal pace is good not great, it is my first self propelled mower after over 4 decades of DIY lawn care so my expectations were high. The maneuvering around tight spaces takes some real forethought when needing to backup and go forward again. Almost has made me want my old push mower back.

[@wayne1362]

I had a problem with those dam wires got hooked on my gate and mower did a wheely scraped some of the rubber cover away as soon as I'm done cutting maybe 2 more I'm taking it in for warranty repairs those wires are way to sloppy for 800.00 machine

[@taxdad9729]

Is it easy to pull the mower backwards when you need to? Such as when mowing around swingset or shrubs.

[@JimmyLewisMows]

Very easy

[@Kamov91]

@@JimmyLewisMows mine seems to jam up when pulling back, any tips for reversing or are there any adjustments I should do?

[@LL-mt2nz]

@@Kamov91You can roll the mower forward slightly to disengage the drive system then pull backwards. Another thing you can do is adjust the personal pace - loose the nut and slightly pull (2 or 3 notches) the cable forward (faster).

[@Kamov91]

@@LL-mt2nz I think I fixed it, but in my case, I had to pull the personal pace cable backwards a few notches, towards the handlebar. Now it disengages each time!

[@LL-mt2nz]

@@Kamov91I’m glad it worked out for you!

[@benharrison1069]

What is the charge time from 0% to 100%? What is the runtime from a 100% charge to 0%? I would agree that the headlights need an on/off switch on the handle. I can think of several improvements for this mower, but those improvements would likely hike the expensive price for this mower even higher.

[@JimmyLewisMows]

Spec sheet on Toro’s site (linked in description) indicates 50 minutes of runtime, but like I mentioned, there are variables that affect that. Charge time 180 minutes.

[@WatsitTooyah]

Also I want to note that there are 3 different chargers available. slow charging is better for battery lifespan and Toro's chargers will stop blinking at 80% and will continue to trickle charge up to 100% while the light is solid.

[@brodygoalie]

Nice lawn. What products are you using to have a pristine lawn

[@JimmyLewisMows]

jimmylewismows.com/my-lawn-program

[@MrNiceguy259]

Great review! I have a TimeMaster also, and whenever my wife helps mow with our Honda, we noticed that the hight adjustments don't match no matter which settings we pick on either mower. Can you tell me if this Super Recycler 60V has a setting that matches your TimeMaster?

[@LL-mt2nz]

They do not. This current SR doesn’t even match the previous version. The height of cut is now a maximum of 4 »

[@ddelv1601]

So are you going to pick up the eTimeMaster?

[@JimmyLewisMows]

I’d sure like to see how it compares!

[@KamfaKing]

Jimmy - does this model still have ball bearing wheels? And is there a port on the deck for attaching a hose like the previous version? Thanks!

[@LL-mt2nz]

This model has ball bearing wheels and the treads are rubber.

[@KamfaKing]

@@LL-mt2nz Thanks, they are indeed.

[@MiguelMorales-zp8jo]

By any chance you happen to own a toro fast charger, is it worth buying and how fast does it charger the different toro batteries?

[@LL-mt2nz]

Take the aH of the batter and divide it by the ah if the charger. So a 2 ah charger will charge a 6ah battery in 3 hours

[@indyfire498]

Excellent review!! Considering a mower purchase for next season. Not a dealbreaker, but would have liked a 22" cut instead of 21. I have about .45 acre lot and every little bit helps. Do you or anyone else know of any changes for the next year model? A couple of my coworkers have the Timemaster and love them. I'm still on the fence.

[@JimmyLewisMows]

22 would be nice. I haven’t heard anything about what’s next. Might be something at the GIE expo though! This model was featured in Toro’s booth last year.

[@krehbein]

Model 21466 has a 22” deck. New for 2023?

[@dannywalker1635]

No switch on the headlamps and bad battery cover design. I have an older 6volt version no lights and pull up hood hinged in the front. My mulch change is with the lever and flipping door. Overall I like mine and would recommend it.

[@ryeguy01]

How does this compare to your timemaster in terms of cut quality and ability to mulch? Also, I feel like my TM's deck gets clogged super easily in the spring -- is the super recycler any different in your experience?

[@LL-mt2nz]

I have dense KBG. It mulches superbly. Even in damp conditions, it didn’t not clump the the deck was relatively clean. Bagging is also excellent. Clippings are pushed to back of bag. I do now high… second or third from the highest setting depending on conditions.

[@plhonthelake2157]

I agree with your review but I have an issue when trying pull the mower backwards. The trailing "safety" plate digs into the grass. My lawn has a few narrow spots that I have to "nose" into to cut properly and trying to back out is almost impossible. Wondering if I can modify that plastic plate so it does not dig in... anyone else have this problem?

[@LL-mt2nz]

I have this mower and it rolls back easily as long as you mow with out a break in pace. If you find it hard to pull back, move it forward slightly then pull back. That’s what I do in tight areas

[@kevengw]

Do you have any complaints on the charger? I'm looking at both the super recyclers you reviewed vs the egos. I grew up using commercial gas Toros so I know and love the deck style. But the charging speed seems super inconvenient, have you struggled with it.

[@JimmyLewisMows]

No complaints, but if you’re going to jump into any battery ecosystem, you’re going to want to planning on having multiple batteries around regardless of what brand you choose.

[@LL-mt2nz]

Charging too fast will shorten the life of the battery in terms of overall charge cycles

[@JasonLestage]

Do you think they’ll ever move to an electric Timemaster? I’m in the market for a new mower, I want something wider but I’d really like to move to electric for the convenience of maintenance and the quieter operation. I can get by another season if an electric Timemaster is in the works.

[@JimmyLewisMows]

I haven’t heard anything, but I’d like to see it. Definitely not out of the realm of possibility.

[@wayne1362]

I'm looking at the 21566 with no lights

[@brodygoalie]

When battery is getting low does the power go down? If it does then that is not acceptable

[@JimmyLewisMows]

It does not. Maintains consistent power and then either stops, or does not start unless battery is changed out.

[@WatsitTooyah]

Ive noticed on my 1 year old toro batteries that the RPM will fall in the final minute before it cuts off entirely. Not impressed by this but still get good overall runtime.

[@BrettBreeden]

@@WatsitTooyah That's pretty typical for all lithium ion batteries. Their power is pretty consistent until almost completely drained. All my Ryobi 18v batteries do the same thing. Some tools may just cut off earlier when they sense less power being supplied. I don't think it's a battery thing, more likely a tool thing.

[@KevinPGA]

Excellent as always Jimmy. I have the 2021 version and LOVE it. I’ll definitely buy whatever version is available if I ever wear this one out. I also agree, job 1, switch the blade. Night and day difference. Have a great weekend! 👍👍👍

[@jrobertraymond]

When will we see a battery powered timemaster

[@JimmyLewisMows]

Sooner than later would be ideal. I haven't heard anything yet.

[@brodygoalie]

How much to purchase a backup battery?

[@JimmyLewisMows]

7.5Ah battery retails at $349.99

[@brodygoalie]

@@JimmyLewisMows WOW. Expensive. I will stick with my gas powered Toro Lawnmower

[@MacG201]

@@brodygoalie it’s definitely pricey. But you also pay for convenience. I bought the toro single stage electric snowblower so I have a second battery anyways but if you invest in the entire platform, batteries aren’t an issue.

[@WatsitTooyah]

Definitely better deal when you get the tool + battery combos.

[@simonamaral9904]

the thing I see with mine is that the wheels set to the same height , th e front right wheel doesn't sit level on the ground. Not a major issue but still bothers me...

[@eagledroppings]

Same here! Brand new and the right front wheel floats like the bad chair at a restaurant. I can't think of a reason this would be on purpose. I've contacted Toro. Very disappointed when considering the cost and supposed quality. Did you ever inquire with Toro or a dealer/servicer about this?

[@mellowjammer]

One big dislike for me is that the Personal Pace works fine for a while when I pull it backward and then all of a sudden the rear wheels lock up when trying to pull backwards. And once it does this it continues to do so for the next 5-6 times you need to back up. I have owned Personal Pace equipped mowers for over a dozen years so I know how to adjust the P.P. cable. This thing is frustrating as heck when it does that. Anybody have any ideas other than "hold 1 hand on the metal handle and 1 hand on the P.P. handle so you can pull the P.P. handle all the way back while still pushing the metal handlebar for a short distance before backing". I think that is ridiculous and never had to do that on my Timemaster. Or gas Super Recycler. Other than that it does a pretty good job for a battery mower.

[@Shortcuts2185]

Looks like a nice mower but i think coming with 1 battery is it's downfall. I purchased a Greenworks 60v 21in mower 3 years ago which came with 2 60v 4amp batteries. 1 will always stay on the charger ready to use when the 1st one runs out. They charge real quick so swapping them gives you all the time needed to complete the lawn at once. Not being able to comple the whole lawn would drive me nuts. As for the cut it goes through anything and cuts as well as my honda hrx217vka. I like it so much i sold the honda..lol

[@andrewkennedy9704]

In toros defence your geenworks had the equivalent of 8amp and this comes with 7.5 so about the same.

[@LL-mt2nz]

And Toro’s battery are much better. Stihl also has good battery tech.

[@hongsitu3429]

How much power does it have?

[@JEK]

60v

[@hongsitu3429]

@@JEK power as in how much torque the electric motor has.

[@JimmyLewisMows]

I haven’t found that specific info anywhere. But it’s enough to mow reasonably overgrown grass and vacuum up material.

[@BrettBreeden]

The Toro rep said it has 65 ft-lbs in response to a question about this mower on the Home Depot site. This seems...incorrect. Probably meant to type 6.5 ft-lbs.

[@hongsitu3429]

@@BrettBreeden 6.5 is really weak, esp for the price

[@KamfaKing]

Having just purchased the 21568, I'm pretty impressed. The cut was great, even with the economy blade. Just had to try it. lol The pros, thanks to Jimmy and others everyone knows what those are by now. Overall it's a great mower. Not much to complain about here. My main con for this model, is the same as Jimmy's BIL - the clear plastic battery hatch/lid -----thanks online whiners who couldn't hold the previous lid with one hand, while dropping the battery in with the other. Very stupid design on this model, and a future fail spot for sure. The failed default in the previous models was CLOSED. Well yeah, as it should be - doh! The default on the new spring loaded hatch on this model is OPEN, or as on Jimmy's BIL's unit, stuck in the closed position. It's finicky for sure, and I think that this can possibly be tweaked by removing the hatch springs. At least with Toro's a person can source parts out. That fact played a large part in my purchase decision for a new battery driven mower. My second con would be the mulch plug part, wow, not a deal breaker by any means, but this could have had a far easier way to remove it. I know that some folks like how on previous Toro units you could simply flip a lever on the outside and go from bag to mulch, but I also noticed a LOT of consumers complaining how that mower had grass clumping and clogging when being fed into the bag, and that it never quite reached the back of the bag. I can say that with this model, that is most definitely not an issue. So I can live with that design flaw. Kinda dumb and clumsy, but it works. The deck height adjustment - This is not a con by any stretch, unless one is handicapped. Please understand that individual wheel adjustment often leads to a superior cut, vs a 1 and done unit. Yes, it's less convenient, but it removes flexing in the deck, especially on hills, or uneven terrain. Some mowers are better/worse than others in this department. This was explained far better than I could, by another person and a another tubers vid. She pinned that person comment. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jqOZoKiep9iHg8U To that I will also add that Toro still uses metal tabs to secure each setting, and still runs their wheels on ball bearings. Most higher end (more costly) electric mowers do neither. At 60+ yrs of age I have seen a lot of grass, and a lot of mowers over the years. Not Just Toro's, and I have spent the past decade using a battery driven mower. I know what cheap feels like. Trust me, this mower is expensive, but it's worth it. I only wish the batteries were about 1/2 the cost of what they currently list them at. Ouch. Thanks for the detailed review, Jimmy. It helped me take the leap! :)

[@JimmyLewisMows]

Thanks for watching and adding your thoughts!

[@ronwhited1224]

The headlights are a deal breaker for me. Having a switch to shut them off is a good idea, but I will never mow at night so I don't want the lights on draining the battery.

[@Brettsgrasscapades]

I've stolen Al's mower I'll have to try it out now😬

[@sj7601]

Lol, how do they not catch something during testing like the battery lid 🤣 Toro's QA is failing bad!

[@Buckeyesully]

Anyone try striping?

[@JimmyLewisMows]

I just got a toro stripe kit for this. Will for sure do a video on it.

[@cahg3871]

Toro should do something with those cables hanging off the handle- they stick out too far and can catch on bushes etc.Another point of contention for me was the battery cover lid-when I was mowing and hit a bump,the lid would pop up.And that mulch plug was a pain to insert and remove.I returned the lawnmower to the dealership and bought the Recycler.I preferred the door lever for the mulch or bagging feature.And it is lighter then the cast aluminum body of the Super recycler. One more feature Toro should work on-get away from the single wheel height adjustment mechanism,they should go with a single point adjustment lever.Those single mechanism get rusty without oiling and can be difficult to adjust.

[@LL-mt2nz]

I single height adjustment makes the mower unstable. Single heights of adjustments results in a more steady deck and a better cut. To remove the mulch plug, just press the table with your finger and it comes out. The lever style on the recycler impedes bagging. The wires may stick out, but they are much larger gauge then those in a conduit and will last the life of the mower

[@ictkeith3730]

I hear a constant clicking whenever the self propel is engaged. Still get a great cut but it’s Definitley annoying

[@JimmyLewisMows]

I've experienced that, too. Make sure your wheels are tightened securely, and double check the plastic cover on the inside of each wheel to make sure it's securely fastened in place, too.

[@ictkeith3730]

@@JimmyLewisMows noted . Thanks. I always listen to podcasts while I mow so that helps mitigate the annoying clicking

[@Kamov91]

I do too, and when pulling back as well. Were you able to get rid of the clicking?

[@ictkeith3730]

I was not. Still clicks non stop . Cuts well but man that clicking is annoying as heck

[@Kamov91]

​@@ictkeith3730 on mine it sounds like it comes from the left rear wheel, but I can't pin-point what it is exactly

[@shaynelammas9413]

Toro’s a good brand . But they need to the handle which l don’t like and have one lever for all four Wheels really. Because l don’t know why that haven’t done that really

[@shanepassafaro4339]

This mower is now 899$.

[@danno180]

Your brother in law is kinda cute

[@infotime]

Interesting that Toro seems secure in sending out their product to content creators for honest reviews, but everyone reviewing EGO has to buy their own.

[@JimmyLewisMows]

I can tell you for a fact that Ego sends out product, too.

[@SpencerMackert-q3q]

Your inlaws complaints are all solved by getting the gas model

[@b286guy]

Bro-in-law is hot 🥵

[@georgedavis4022]

Batteries do not last long & they are quite expensive.

[@brodygoalie]

It's not electric. You are not using an extension cord! LoL

[@WatsitTooyah]

What

[@aliaskink]

I just don't understand the personal pace system. Honestly that's what has deterred me from Toro. I have a hilly lawn and I need something that will pull me along.

[@LL-mt2nz]

For hills, I believe Honda’s drive system would be better