TORO vs FERRIS | which brand makes a better mower?

We compare the Toro Z Master with MyRide Suspension to the Ferris IS2100Z highlighting the differences between these two commercial mowers. These are two of the best mowers out on the market that give premium suspension to compared to other mowers on the market.
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Howe Equipment is a certified toro dealer located in Jackson, Michigan that specializes is sales, parts, and service.
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[@bryanduncan6255]

Both make a good mower, depends on what you want out of a mower. BUT I just sold a Toro Zmaster and bought a Ferris isx800 and absolutely love the Ferris. There is no comparison for the ride it offers. No regrets. Looked at the MyRide before buying the Ferris and still no comparison, Ferris has the absolute best riding mower out there.

[@dporrasxtremeLS3]

I Agree with this 100%

[@freedomisntfree_44]

I gotta have the toro. Stays on hill better and I get done quicker

[@ScottyLo]

Very informative video on the 2 brands. They are both solid machines but the older I get the more I want comfort.

[@Dave-ei7kk]

I’m with you. Just took delivery of a Ferris ISX2200 which is the newer version of the one in this video. I’ve got a bumpy yard due to over a dozen very large Silver Maples that send out roots right at the surface in some areas. I have berms and hills too. The Ferris is like taking a Lazy Boy on a ride around the yard. No comparison to any of the other zero turns or tractors I’ve driven. You’ll love it. The ISX2200 also has an upgraded deck. Very smooth cut and I haven’t noticed the nose-dive scalping that he discussed in the video. Mine has a 60” deck and I was concerned about scalping as I am retiring a John Deere with a 48” deck. I don’t know how they did it, but the Ferris has much less tendency to scalp than the old JD. A couple of things that I don’t like about the Ferris is locking mechanism for folding/extending the ROPS bar. It consists of a 1/2” round bar with a hitch pin on each side. It’s fiddly to say the least. The other thing is the mechanism to hold the discharge chute cover vertically when the extra clearance is needed is a joke. It doesn’t hold the chute all the way up and releases even with just some minor jostling when parking in my barn. I fabricated a temporary solution this morning and am just waiting for the paint to dry to install it. But I shouldn’t have to do that. The chute is real nice though. It’s thick reinforced rubber that’s over 1/4” thick with no corners to impede grass discharge. It broadcasts the clippings very nicely.

[@ScottyLo]

@@Dave-ei7kk sounds like a great mower and having the suspension it’s a no brainer

[@josephrobichaud5198]

First thing I do when I buy a new Z Turn is remove those pulley covers! All they do is trap grass under the pulleys. Next I remove the chute and add a chute blocker. That way I can use the mower as a mulcher for leaves, or block off the chute if I'm in a tight spot to stop blowing the grass into the landscaping.

[@tomcraven3396]

Mower cost has got way out of control

[@LegendLength]

I agree they are pretty simple machines compared to say an ATV. You can basically bolt things together it doesn't need to be high performance.

[@user-mk1yo7gt4h]

Yep 🤦🏿

[@Fultonfalcons86]

The Ferris is way cheaper than most with the best possible accesseries available

[@itstime2russell467]

I just wanted to add that because of your video i bought the Toro Multiforce machine. Nobody had a video explaining all the details and all the perks like yours so thank you for that.

[@howeequipment]

Thanks for letting me know!! Hope it’s working well. Thanks for watching the videos.

[@bratman87]

My first ztr was a Ferris 2009 model IS500z with 52" deck. Replaced it with a Ferris IS2000z with 52" deck fall of 2015. What made me go Ferris is my 3 acre yard is fairly bumpy. Loved the IS500z, rode good, cut good and very little trouble. I upgraded to the IS2000z after my daughter bought a house 1 mile from mine. She has a 2 acre yard so my mower cuts 5 acres at a time. I know these are older units compared to the test but I still feel somewhat relevant. The 2000 was a noticeable improvement in ride, which a Ferris has a good ride, and cut. The 2100 replaced the 2000 and now it is called the 2200. In 2014 the IS2000sz with a 52" deck and 28hp Briggs motor was around 9k even. The person I bought it from, an older gentleman with 1 acre, purchased it leftover for 7.8k spring of 2015. Sold it to me with 12.1 hrs for $6500 fall of 2015. I felt like I had stolen it. They will scalp it you stop fast at speed. Or stop and back up fast. You just need to keep your movements fluid and it doesn't ever scalp my bumpy yard. Ride and cut are much better on the IS2000z over the older IS500z. For 14K I would think you are near Ferris IS3300z price. Most all brands are good and many advise to rate the dealer more than the mower itself. Lucky for me I have needed very little dealer support.

[@montybolinger6383]

The body on a Ferris may nose dive on a hard deceleration but the deck does not as it is suspended off the wheels not the body so it does not produce a lower cut in the front when this occurs. Unlike for instance putting a set of Flex Forks on a Hustler then when it nose dives under hard deceleration it will cut lower when this occurs. I've owned 4 Ferris machines including the 5100 diesel 72 and loved each including the two I currently own. NO mower rides as good as a Ferris.

[@LegendLength]

Doesn't that essentially make it the same as the Toro then in this video? You have wheels + deck as the bottom platform then the rest on top. With shocks between.

[@H0kieJoe]

Nice comparison. I prefer the Ferris because of the suspension and the serviceable bits. However, Toro makes a nice mower.

[@glslawnservices1905]

We run Ferris. The biggest difference between the My Ride System and the Ferris suspension is, My ride is a suspension system for the operator where the Ferris suspension is for the whole machine which aids when mowing grass fast, you get less deck chatter than with the Toro when the front tires are bouncing up off the ground while hitting bumps. If you incorporated Hustlers SmoothTrak steering into a Ferris, it would be the dream machine. The automatic parking brake on the ZTR's from Hustler is also awesome.

[@Wheelchair-bear]

Excellent non bias review, I could trust you and would choose Toro and you as my dealer if I was in your region, I probably will go with Ferris as my local dealer has offered to bring one out to my farm to demo, I can trust them as well.

[@dougkubash8673]

Good fair review! Amen to the quality of the dealer!

[@rodhimelick1547]

The comment made about coming to a stop/slow down,and scalping is not accurate. The deck is linked to the suspension. As the suspension is compressed, the deck raises, and when the suspension is extended the deck lowers. This is a great feature on the Simplicity/Ferris deck suspension design.

[@itstime2russell467]

Hey Matt, Russell (Tennessee) here, I have a Ferris ISX800 54" and i love it!! also have a Snapper ST50X 36" I did get the Toro Grandstand you quoted for me. I found one in Nashville so it was geographically better. i haven't put it in service yet but after riding the Ferris it is bumpy s heck! But, If you are riding the Ferris and you make a quick stop you will put the Olympic rings in the lawn! Toeo is great on smooth yards! Great Video!

[@howeequipment]

Glad you got one. Thanks for watching our stuff. Sounds like you have a nice fleet.

[@Fultonfalcons86]

I love my new Ferris ISX 3300 72 inch bad boy indeed smooth no scalping and cuts my 7acres in 3 and half hours full throttle 12 mph

[@mikescaffo4850]

I bought a new 2010 ferris 3100 z best mower I have ever had 2000 hrs still have no problems with it

[@WeSRT4]

To me the suspension on the Ferris takes the shock out off the frame. I suspect the Ferris can stand up better to rough terrain over a long period.

[@davidjudd951]

Much easier for the back for those who prefer Riders over Standers. If someone has relatively healthy legs, a Stander is by far less fatiguing.

[@gregbrammer336]

I love the videos especially the comfort I love to see the toro 6000 vs toro 4000 31 hp vs 35 hp 16 cc vs 5400 trans I use both

[@howeequipment]

Thanks so much for watching! We have a local guy who bought a 4000 and 6000 series 72” that we plan to do a video for in the future.

[@gregbrammer336]

It would be interesting Especially banks and response between transmission

[@howeequipment]

Check out the latest video on our channel

[@williamnewsome5169]

Left off most important aspects: quality of cut, warranty, and engine offerings for each.

[@Dave-ei7kk]

Yes, thank you! You’d think he was comparing vehicles used for transportation rather than vehicles whose primary use is to cut grass. A lot of talk about the suspension and called out the transmission model 3 or 4 times but not a word about the power plant. And that’s a big deal. One thing I did learn that gave me pause about buying a Ferris mower is that they are owned by Briggs & Stratton. I want a Kawasaki or Kohler or Kubota motor in my mower. Briggs would be my last choice or maybe even a deal breaker.

[@williamnewsome5169]

@@Dave-ei7kk You nailed it! No wonder power plant was not mentioned. Thanks for the info.

[@DavidSmith-fr1uz]

I am hoping that some manufacturer will rival the Ferris ride so I can have a choice. Seems like the comments on the My Ride system are saying it is still not equal to the Ferris.

[@PCGonline]

besides major dips and abrupt things like roots the ferris lets you just fly over the terrain while taking all the shock.

[@castleladpaza76]

I've always used Ferris will never change

[@WildBillsGC]

Anyone heard anything on the new Husqvarna suspension mowers ?

[@jeremybruce654]

I have never scalped with my Ferris Z3X. And I mow some country lawns.

[@NB252]

I think that the toro is worse because the wheels in the front do not move, on the Ferris they move and it feels like the bumps are getting filled im, sorry but the Ferris suspension is just better.

[@AdventureMotoEnduro]

i have a 23 ferris 400s and its a little tank ,mows a slopping 5 acer lumpy bush block many trees and garden beds lumps and bumps she cuts about 3 acers very well and fast so damn quick and nimble , even thick grass rips through it ,,what took me 6 hour on old 16hp murry lawn tractor i can now do in 2 hours on the ferris ,the 23hp v twin B/S heavy duty block engine has more then enough grunt i dont rev it hard not for first 5 hours but i still cuts perfect at 70% throttle ,got the property looking like a golf course ,Amazing machine worth the money i think going for trouble free mowing for the next 4 or 5 years ,do yourself a Favor and spend more time doing thing you love now i can smash the yard in 2 hours its a Friday arvo job done and dusted ,free weekend to go camping fishing 4wding with misses , welcome yourself to the twenty first century of mowing grass ,400s now comes with upgraded pro 3100 hydro trans

[@josephrobichaud5198]

I happen to own a Ferris IS700Z and a Toro model 75759. By far I like the Ferris far more! It's way faster, handles and rides better, has far more grease points, wider deck belt. SImple things like under the seat there's a sticker that says what the deck and hydro belt part numbers are, a simple to use drain line for the oil that stays attached, even The Treads on The rear Tires have more TracTion Then The Toro.

[@phillyarrow0898]

What does it tell you when a mower built by. Briggs and scrap iron uses a Kawasaki engine? Kinda like a ford 650 truck that uses a Cummins

[@p71collector]

Does Ferris make the Stihl brand zero turn mower?

[@howeequipment]

The same manufacturer for Ferris makes stihl yes

[@josephrobichaud5198]

Side comment, why is it that when you buy a mower that the manufacture's cheap out and do not put a sticker on the deck showing the layout for deck belt? There also should be a sticker telling the deck belt, hydro belt, oil, and air filter #'s, and the blade #. They give you a manual with three pages of useless safety warnings to cover there butts, but no useful info on the parts needed to maintain it!

[@freedomisntfree_44]

The toro has always had a belt diagram on the deck.

[@gregorysampson8759]

I notice with the toro myride the frame of the machine slams up and down like a bull and the ferris seems to absorbs bumps and only the wheel will come up not the whole frame.

[@ronniegibson8577]

I was looking at a ferris and toro when i got my new zero turn. I wanted the ferris for the suspension. Nothing rides like a ferris mower!! It's amazing how smooth one rides. I wanted a toro cause my dad has a zmaster 500. That toro is around 17 or 18 years old with no troubles at all. It has been bulletproof. I ended up with a snapper pro 200xt with a 37hp vanguard. It is a brother of the ferris and its built as good as a toro 6000 minus $5000.

[@flyingjeff1956]

Weird how the parts catalog for Ferris calls out Toro accessories. Hmmm. Same company, maybe?

[@josephstraw6224]

How about gravely?

[@opnwndo]

Ferris...hands down. Well built, not a toy

[@freedomisntfree_44]

More things to break. The toro wins. It’s a solid tank

[@shangrilaladeda]

The funny thing is they are both the same company

[@michaelwillcutt2619]

Ferris is a Briggs an Stratton lawmower

[@raymondgriffith6532]

I have never had a Ferris scalp the lawn when stopping... I think you are wrong about that.

[@timcastens1150]

Briggs owns Ferris for me that's a good thing

[@pearlriverfury2884]

I wish toro had there big mowers availability 7500 series are not so easy to get

[@Jfishinanoutdoors]

Toro

[@harryerhart5978]

Soon Ferris will be Stihl 😮

[@UknowWhoWeR]

Already is

[@harryerhart5978]

@@UknowWhoWeR right

[@davidjudd951]

Yes, Briggs had all three for sale for quite awhile. Briggs wants to concentrate their resources on mainly huge industrial engines, and divest themselves of mower engines.

[@JT-rc7vx]

Maybe next compare Ferrari to fiat😅

[@diedesertfox]

None exmark bit both by far!!!!

[@josephrobichaud5198]

I've found that More ride sysTem to be useless, my Ferris rides far better then my Toro!

[@derekstoddard245]

Briggs doesn’t own Ferris or anything like that anymore when they went bankrupt they sold all of that to another corporation

[@lenny8100]

Which was Briggs and Stratton goofy 😂

[@markwinnicki8802]

ferris is still owned by Briggs and Stratton and always has been when the bankrupsy court proceedings took place kyp bought the bankrupsy For the sum that Briggs owned allowing Briggs to still produce and build there engines and equiptment as usual kyp is an prívate investment firm so Briggs and Stratton and ferris are doing wonderfully ofciurse the virus is what caused Briggs financial problems to behind with but kyp sabes them and ferris simplicity snapper snapper pro sales de lunes as to not being as popular as ferris same machines different ñame as paint there going to be sold un europe we're there popular as a mechanic all My life simplicity and snapper we're quite popular but it is what it is ferris sales and popularity have sored so there doing well

[@user-pi4nw3oq6d]

I have a IS3200 Ferris. Ferris all the way for me. Your videos IMO, are just a big Toro Ad. Your too biased for me!

[@ericlenzi2718]

I dont think briggs owns them anymore

[@howeequipment]

Do you know who does?

[@H0kieJoe]

​@@howeequipmentKPS Capitol owns Briggs, Ferris and Simplicity/Snapper. Ferris just expanded manufacturing in NY.

[@howeequipment]

@@H0kieJoe gotcha. So it’s not that briggs owns the others but rather briggs is one of the others that this investment group owns as well.

[@H0kieJoe]

@@howeequipment IIRC, Simplicity bought Ferris, then Briggs bought both some time later. Perhaps Snapper was part of the acquisition as well. Some years after that, KPG Capitol bought Briggs who already owned Ferris/Simplicity/Snapper.

[@derekstoddard245]

@@H0kieJoeI belive kps only bought the mower side of Briggs that’s what we were told at the factory

[@thelpw2608]

ask a barber if he thinks you need a haircut

[@lenny8100]

I own a Ferris is700z 61’ with the 27 Briggs And a toro 4000 pro 52’ with the 25 kawaski. Non biased opinions, Ferris beautiful ride little outdated when it comes to tech like usb ports or massive storage compartments, and the zt-3300 or 3200 pumps can’t remember are a little underpowered for a 27hp semi commercial mower, has an AMAZING deck cut quality is 10/10 hands down on the Ferris lays stripes beautifully literally art. Toro 4000, cut quality is hideous, I think these decks don’t have baffles. My ride makes you feel like you’re swinging on a swing when open cutting and full cut speed when you hit a bump it is an ok system tho compared to the Ferris. Deck is non independent so you will still scalp on this machine if you go into a hole 😂 idk why he said that Ferris does it alone all mowers do… 😂 they have great sturdy chassis they look really beefy the zt-4400’s will literally go through 2ft of mud ! I will say this tho rear tires not the voodos aren’t as grippy as the CARSILE TURF 24’s I swapped both out and this thing WILL HOLD CRAZZZY SLOPES ! Pumps are amazing cup holders and ammentites I feel like the 4000’ was a rushed machine they could have taken more time to build this machine to be 10/10 like the handle bars will literally move 2-1/2 feet infront of you and they don’t auto retract more like a cruise control but not a good cruise control, motors never come aligned so one pump will always be faster then another causing you to turn to the right or left. it has all the high tech greatness just need more time and investment in the small things.

[@joemiller7945]

That's not even close to there top of the line.

[@CongoChango]

I think both are entirely over rated. As far as well built and easy maintenance the Dixie chopper is so much ahead of either of those mowers. The suspension BS they float just don’t compare to the simple and solid built facts of Dixie Chopper. They are absolutely more well built and so much easier access and need almost zero maintenance. I think a chopper will outlast any of those red machines simply because they are not using cookie cutter design and are built on a completely better platform. These red mowers are all flawed always have been in different areas and they just are not what some of the better built mowers are like dixie chopper.

[@mrme9517]

DIXIE IS SO GOOD THAT NOBODY COMMERCIAL USE IT LBVDS 😅😅😅😅 TOP COMMERCIAL MOWERS ARE SCAG EXMARK FERRIS TORO HUSTLER AND DEERE

[@dw5743]

I disagree. Not saying dixie chopper is bad, but Ferris is a great mower, given I have an older one the is3000z 61" from like 2003. They are built like a tank, the decks are built better, suspension is built better. It is a testament alone that the one I have is from 2003 and we are almost in 2024 and it is still running.

[@dennisdaniels6676]

My ferris from then as well 26horse kawasaki with radiator beast heavy pulls my xmark and Toros out when stuck as well as shrubs