We Tested The New Stihl Zero Turn Mowers. How much are they? Isn't it just a repainted Ferris?

[@mikedemott1720]

So it's basically the difference between Chevy and GMC

[@philliphall5198]

Yep just the paint and name with higher price

[@hellocheckco]

Precisely 😅

[@royalway12]

It's a Ferrihl.

[@chainsawsandmore5480]

let's make it a MEGA THREAD 😂 *STIHLERRIS* *STIRRIS*

[@chainsawsandmore5480]

*WAAAAIT A MIIIIINUTE!!!!* that means they're planning on a.. *"MOWERSPORTS" Tournament?!!!?!?* maybe *"TURFERSPORTS"??

[@Cdunham2978]

10G for a 52” cut. These prices are absolutely nuts! #FJB

[@iilynix5998]

Nah sthil is just overpriced. Im fairly new to the lawn care industry and personally use a Exmark radius S. They run about 9,500 out the door. They also have the E series which is a slight lower grade but still commercial. It goes for about 7,100 out the door. The only difference is that the radius s comes with a ultracut series 4 and a suspension platform as well as the motor of your choice. The E series comes with the ultra cut series 3 deck and does not have the suspension platform. (you can add a promo seat for around $600-800) and you get the exmark branded engine.

[@dankollars4501]

the only reason they are this expensive is because people pay it.

[@deronburrus5924]

They are owned by Briggs AND Stratton and they put in a Kawasaki engine. That tells me plenty.

[@FliGuyRyan]

I like how you put up, "3 minutes until Ferris comparison." That's a handy posting because that's what we're here for. Keep making videos man... I'm diggin your video/narration style.

[@Chad-h5l]

Ferris makes sthil mowers

[@josephrobichaud5198]

I've owned a Farris IZ 700 for at least 5 years mowing 35 yards a week. It's by far the best mower I've ever owned! I've driven or owned almost every brand out there, and it's the fastest, best riding mower I've ever owned! I bought a brand new Dixie chopper and took it back the same day. I also own a brand new Toro Myride and I'm not impressed at all!

[@DM-fs9zg]

I'm right there with you, owned a high dollar scag before, wiring issues and cutting issues from the beginning. Bought a Ferris 700, been cutting for 7 years and I have only purchased blades and one battery.

[@30pvfd]

Yep Ferris makes them!!

[@drummerjimmy51]

Thank you for the video. I was wanting a ferris mower but the local ferris dealer was out of the one I wanted so I called another one a little farther away who is also a stihl dealer. So he only had one ferris in and said hey have you seen these new stihl mowers that are basically a ferris and I saw your video in the queue but didn't watch it yet, guess cause of my search on ferris lawn mowers. So the wife and me went up there and I played your video and can hear the audio [ driving] and I was like yep it's a repainted some what ferris. I trim trees professional for over 20 some years and we use stihl product so this is cool. Well we got one the stihl rz 560F even though I do like the Ferris red color better.

[@philliphall5198]

Stay away from short oil filters Use the longest one you can get if it will fit

[@hellocheckco]

Thanks for the tip!

[@6.8SuperDutyDriver]

That's what I do.

[@jdawg5960]

@@6.8SuperDutyDriver thas what she said?

[@denniseft6460]

The Stihl model you ran was the Ferris 3300.

[@hellocheckco]

💯

[@Prometheus203]

@@hellocheckco They are assembled on the same lines at the Briggs and Stratton Sherill, New York assembly plant.

[@danz0007]

You are correct and they paint it a different colt and put stihl on it and charge 30% more

[@kennethperian4370]

Great job again showing and telling, about them lawnmowers . Keep up the good work showing see ya next time see ya bye.

[@Abe12845]

Ferris lawn mower no questions it’s like General Motors

[@janstolk486]

i have a stihl chain saw . good luck starting that thing !

[@booifojoe]

So, do I - and I don't need your luck. I can read.. the instructions.

[@Dave-ei7kk]

I’ve got two Stihl chainsaws and two Husqvarna chainsaws. And I don’t have trouble starting any of them. Not sure what issues you’re having but maybe your saw needs servicing. I do my own servicing and learned how to tune the carburetor on a chainsaw 50 years ago. Makes a world of a difference to have the saw tuned properly.

[@cwillistyle]

Gravely/Ariens! different paint jobs!

[@faceinthecrowd5810]

Toro with my ride suspension is what I use and am totally happy with them.

[@zzbudzz]

I think I'm gonna buy a 54 Toro my ride very soon ..my old cub cadet is 18 years old and tired.

[@Namedeeznuts]

@@zzbudzzwhere are you at? Retiring that old cub I'll pick it up !😂

[@Kamov66]

So which brand is cheaper?

[@SeboltLawnLandscape]

Should be interesting to see if these mowers are adopted by the commercial guys. I always liked the suspension aspect of the Ferris. I have an Exmark with a suspension seat, but it still isn't as forgiving as a real full suspension would be.

[@hellocheckco]

Yeah, I don't have Ferris dealers near me, so that was honestly the first time I had demoed either one so the suspension deck was new to me. I will say, that Stihl 900 series (same as Ferris 3300, not demoed here) was extremely comfortable and smooth.

[@cmamsler]

The scag turf tiger seat is Super nice.

[@viawilderness]

...depends on the warranty/maintenance packages...I will tell you right now the big commercial guys are sticking with Exmark all day long. There's too much bang for the buck with Exmark. I personally like Ferris, Scag, etc. but they're too expensive for 15 man crews

[@stratos6061]

As a homeowner and not a commercial user, I went shopping for a new ZT mower last summer. I compared the Stihl RZ152 to the equivalent Ferris 300S with the 52” deck. Contrary to so many other comments, when shopping for this particular model, the Stihl was not an “overpriced” Ferris. In fact, the Stihl was cheaper. Even now, if you check the MSRP for this model on both companies’ websites, the Stihl’s MSRP is $200 less than the Ferris. Prices may vary at your local dealers, but they were pretty consistent with MSRP at mine (which thankfully was a little lower last summer). I think there are a lot of people out there who, for whatever reason, love to hate Stihl and are just looking for any opportunity to sound off about it. For those who are willing to be a little more objective and don’t have an ax to grind, the choice between Ferris and Stihl should come down to your local dealer support and price, and maybe color if you have a very strong opinion on that. Do your own research on the specific model you’re interested in and ignore the hype and conjectures of others.

[@Chad-h5l]

Ferris makes sthil mowers, lol.

[@stratos6061]

@@Chad-h5l Ummmm.......duh. Your point?

[@kennethperian4370]

Great job showing and telling, so the mowers look and riding good. But the 500 ride little better maybe,well that’s good to know. Well have a good one will see ya on the next video take care see ya bye.

[@okheaterokc1874]

I bought my first Ferris in 2001 and have moved up to the 2100Z. Looks like the suspension patent has run its course for Ferris. A lot of commercial guys run Ferris because they are not hard on your body. I don't think Stihl was making mowers 20 years ago.

[@hellocheckco]

Ferris still has it I believe. They're building these on contract for Stihl

[@thastinger345]

I have a 2014, just an IS700 with an upgraded suspension seat, but it has been rock solid.

[@Cherokee10g]

Note: Stihl and Ferris partnered up to create the Stihl zero turn mowers, that was smart of these two companies, quality zero turns right from the start! kudos!

[@Chad-h5l]

Ferris makes sthil mowers, lol. Go ask a Ferris dealer. I've been running Ferris for twenty years, no way I'd pay more for Orange paint

[@princevultan6589]

Briggs & Stratton owns Ferris and partnered with Stihl. Briggs & Stratton used a proven formula and put it out with Stihl, Stihl didn’t rip off Ferris. Just like mentioned in a post earlier, it’s like GMC and Chevy.

[@RS999GTI]

Like GMC and Chevy? No, more like John Deere and Craftsman mowers

[@benjaminleslie3155]

Oh so stihl is doing a fleet program like what redmax does?

[@hellocheckco]

I'm not sure to be honest. The only "deal" they mentioned was the 0% financing.

[@thewrench2568]

We have uncrated 3 so far that have fuel delivery issues caused by the pickup tube being too long and each had loose fasteners. Otherwise they are pretty good mowers.

[@runrundave]

I got an isx800 3 years ago for 8400. It has a 28hp fuel injected motor. Good suspension an 19mph road speed.... except they messed up at factory. It goes 22mph. 😂

[@viawilderness]

..for a 1-man lawn care businesses, I would get a Stihl mower im a heartbeat. I don't see the big commercial crews using these though. Exmark is still the best bang for the buck.

[@rossflorence7392]

It's a repainted Ferris. It's identical to Ferris.

[@hellocheckco]

Basically, yeah.

[@terryh.9659]

They didn't drop them in our area.They are still for sale.

[@tome8373]

3:08 “for a business just starting out…” going into twenty to thirty thousand dollars in equipment is suicide

[@hellocheckco]

Right, that's what the reps are pushing, but I don't recommend doing this when starting out. However, someone who has a good book of business and is cashflowing could spring for an entirely new setup that they know they can pay off. The unit I "recommended" from this line is the 500 series, since it has the lowest price point of their commercial units.

[@icac6122]

no, dawg, has talking about the finance plan. Then he talks about the 10 grand mower for the price, and that's very true. you are looking around 8 grand to 14 grand, typically. as long as you have clientele, i don't see how this would hurt. I'm a new business and I'm totally gonna do it. the finance plan for the 10 grand one for 36 months would be 277 dollars a month, not bad. i don't have a crazy amount of clientele, and i know i could definitely do that. the top of the line one would be 477 or something like that, id consider that after a solid year of work for the next season. after 2 years, you should be able to hire people, sometimes way sooner. i added everything together, and exactly everything id need to do the whole season without not having a right tool for the job and it came to roughly 5800 dollars and thats added with a 3000 dollar used truck. with all that you should be making enough income to afford the 10 grand one, as long as you have at least 10 clientele, that give you stready work for the seasons. and the mower will bring in the cash. especially if you are in up beat area, seeing brands catches people. its our society.

[@999benhonda]

Yep, every year in my area I see at least 1 or 2 people selling a lawn care setup, trailer/mower/trimmers. People who bought at least 20k in equipment, only to find out that making good money doing lawn care is hard.

[@NolanSchmitz]

Hustler fast track nothing beats it

[@istupid4454]

Very helpful thanks a lot!

[@nickweaver3090]

Simplicity mowers r the same too. Just orange lol

[@user-fq3uh7bt1t]

True, but you can't get anything bigger than the equivalent Ferris ISX 800 from Simplicity. The Simplicity's also come with a standard striping roller behind the deck

[@nunyabusiness5075]

Briggs and Stratton bought Simplicity and Snapper/Snapper Pro and Ferris (like 15~20 years ago) and now makes the Stihl models. Simplicity used to own Massey-Ferguson too.

[@PatrickEmerson-u3q]

Sherril New York same place a ferris is built

[@oooomoment5739]

Come on! A USB port isn't a zero turn differentiator. The big sell is the Stihl network of dealers across the country and if the price is the same then B&S made a good agreements with Stihl. Basically, they just expanded the Ferris dealership network. White labeling is not a sin. Its been going on for decades. I actually like the Stihl color mix better than the old school Ferris barn red. Lastly, I've got a Stihl dealer just down the road and was there last week looking at zero turns. Didn't see any of these white label machines. If I had I would have purchased one on the spot! Much prefer the ferris over the BadBoy and Hustler.

[@hellocheckco]

Yeah, I don't mind that it's white labeled at all... I actually think that makes buying one easier since you know you're getting a more battle tested machine. I agree with you that the dealer network is the main "pro" in this situation.

[@chriscarpenter1967]

So, Stihl is trying to be more like RedMax or Husky with an all inclusive lineup. I heard that the mowers are not included on the Stihl fleet program?🤔🤔

[@RCjunkie]

You need to see my 2006 Gravely Pro Rear steer with a 27 hp Kohler with a 72" deck

[@moms762]

Your comparison would have a LOT of variables. check tire pressure, shock adjustment, do they both have suspension seats? if so, sre they adjusted the same?

[@stratos6061]

There are a lot of comments on this video saying that the Stihls are marked up compared to Ferris and you should save yourself a lot of money and just buy the Ferris and on and on. I got onto both Ferris’s and Stihl’s websites and compared the MSRPs of TEN equivalent models, including residential and commercial. There was one instance where the MSRP was exactly the same between Ferris and Stihl. For all nine remaining mowers in the sample, every single Stihl was hundreds of dollars LESS than the corresponding Ferris. The range was anywhere from $200 to $750 less. The author of this video even said that the MSRPs are similar, so what’s up with all of you who are crying about Stihl markups compared to Ferris? I’m actually glad that I did my own research and bought my Stihl before reading the comments on this video. If I had seen all these comments first, I might’ve listened to some of you and gone straight to the red dealer and spent $700 more for essentially the same thing. I’m not knocking Ferris at all. If your local Ferris dealer has better prices great, but stop making ridiculous and false blanket statements about markups for orange and white paint. Some of us are trying to make rational decisions.

[@hrm350694]

will the Stihl dealers that do not sell the mower service them under warranty? if not, then the dealer count is was lower.

[@kepnerlawncare3795]

Great Video. Saw you guys filming there

[@hellocheckco]

Very cool!

[@generynkewicz4871]

Both are made by Briggs and Stratton power products group.

[@hellocheckco]

Correct!

[@shall54]

I'm looking into maybe the stiihl electric but the price is around $27000! Why so damn high?

[@RMosher11]

You have to pay the stupidity tax.

[@ferrismowers_ColtonMedlin]

Best to go with the original

[@craig4926]

just bought 52" RZ152 model 0% for 48 months

[@destrosuicide6555]

They are all the models that Briggs just yanked from the Simplicity catalog, hurting their oldest brands dealers even further than canceling the legacy XL.

[@hellocheckco]

Hot take right there! But not wrong.

[@destrosuicide6555]

@@hellocheckco i'm a 3rd generation Simplicity/Allis dealer. its what we all think according to the guys i exchange info with.

[@hellocheckco]

@@destrosuicide6555 I appreciate you sharing this. That's awesome that you've been in the industry on the dealer side for so long. I wish you the best and thanks again for the comment!

[@ForrestGump1212]

The only differences between the Ferris and the Stihl is the paint color and the price. haha

[@RoadieWingZZ]

So talk to me about the Stihl 10 degree side-slope limits where Toro is 15 and Cub Cadet ZTS is 20…. Seriously interested in knowing why so hoping a knowledgeable expert will weigh in.

[@teamhighcotton4912]

Hey! Big fan of the content you make. I only have 1 request. The guy the the mustache constantly that is ruining your shots by trying so hard to be in the video is super annoying. Get that guy under control please lol. It’s so bad it almost makes me not want to watch and I really like your videos. But that guy…. Omg…..please tell him to quit trying so hard to be in your shots. Sending all the love and best vibes to you and the super informative content. Keep up the awesome work. Can’t wait to see the channel grow!

[@jacksonmich]

I've been trying to get a ferris

[@tdumford1]

only issue with getting into dealers for work is getting into dealers for work.

[@timkontoulas8024]

Great review!

[@royalway12]

Is this a Ferrihl?

[@runrundave]

I find it hilarous that steele, who make themselves out to be fancy, is rebranding a briggsanstraton an marking ut up

[@philliphall5198]

The winner will be best payment plan and interest

[@hellocheckco]

Ya, and the reps were really pushing that. I believe it was 36 months with 0% interest. If you can't make that mower pay for itself with those terms thennnnnn 😬

[@robles9423]

I'll stick with my red 61" ferris with the vanguard system that cost me $9600

[@donrichter3523]

One problem with your dealer support claims…….most Stihl dealers don’t carry the zero turn mowers. My closest Stihl dealer is 10 miles away. The closest that carries the zero turn mowers is 77 miles away. Cue safe trombone sound!

[@kennyplay5982]

This is made by a Briggs and Stratton as is Ferris.

[@mrrepo05]

It's a Ferris. Which in the end....all are now owned by Briggs&Stratton

[@ntsreviewsandvlogs9005]

I bought my Mustang 50 to replace my "almost: kzbin.infoUgkx1VWTrayKBdCKAjzAcZ_Eg4dhHTae3LkN also recommend worn out John Deere L120 (48" Cut - 20 HP Briggs). First off - I can now mow my almost 3 acres in about 1/2 the time it took with my other mower... I have had the Mustang 50 for almost 2 years now... Maintenance is easy - the Kohler Motor is "out in the open" and everything, except for the oil filter, is VERY easy to get to... To change the oil filter I have learned to fold the seat forward - no problem now... The deck is SUPER easy to drop... Rememb..

[@nasgwido8177]

Entry level for commercial use - $10,000

[@hellocheckco]

Right, entry level commercial for Stihl is probably a better way to say that 😅

[@philliphall5198]

Dang that’s a lot of grass to mow and nothing for owners Yes there services are very very good and parts

[@Technotranceism]

Some companies are offering around the 8k-9k range, for commercial entry level.

[@Cherokee10g]

Yea but what a nice ride doing the work, I love it what a mower. John Deer really beat me up mowing 2 1/2 acres. never again.

[@tgh223]

i cant believe any one would pay 18000 for a mower

[@hellocheckco]

Easy when it makes you 💰

[@tgh223]

@@hellocheckco i can get 960 john deere for 13000 with kawaski not no junk brrigs

[@hellocheckco]

@@tgh223 again, it's all about dealer support! If you have a Deere dealer next to you, then I'd probably do the same thing given the price difference!

[@Omniverse0]

@@tgh223 Not a 960R you can't.

[@davidmoxley7635]

Yes the stihl zero turn mower is the same and the simplicity is the same as the Ferris also but there all the best on the market

[@dmlandscapedesignllcatlant8093]

Yo master mowers is selling ferris way cheaper than that guy right there just saying🤷

[@jjlittle81]

Why say ‘except if you have the Kawasaki engine’ is there any reason for that

[@team_1j_jont-179]

Rural king (big box) sells stihl... just sayin

[@hellocheckco]

Where is that based? I've never heard of it

[@destrosuicide6555]

The big stores can't carry them. The dealer will have to be a full service dealer, and there will only be 2 contracts in a sales territory

[@jadosa29]

@@hellocheckco mostly a Midwest chain. It’s pretty great

[@destrosuicide6555]

@B.Jammin it varies. in my area near pittsburgh it's wide. eastern ohio northern wv, and all of western pa. they will NOT let a non stand alone dealer sell them ( so no rural king or ace hardwares or JD dealers).... so they tell me.

[@hellocheckco]

@@jadosa29 Nice! Is it like a harbor freight or ace hardware?

[@jessegroth2867]

If you drove the 3300 ot would ride the same as the stihl

[@brentcarr8365]

Youd be better off getting the ferris. Its a little better to. I was told ferris makes them for stihl

[@grownnotflown2]

Is this the show they had to bury the dewalt at

[@freeradiorulo4894]

I only use Stihl Chainsaws............ Just not great when drinking to much PBR! ill tell ya what.......

[@AntonioFitzgerald-o3p]

10k i just stick with my 52 cut scagg for only 6k

[@jeremythiel2550]

They are the same mower made by same company

[@alans.4658]

Briggs and Stratton's business model lately is to lose dealers. Won't be long before all their product lines are gobbled up by manufacturers who know what they are doing

[@royalway12]

Briggs is actually looking for a buyer for their Singer, Ferris, and Simplicity lineup. They're wanting to focus on their commercial engine division worldwide.

[@UknowWhoWeR]

It’s the same mower man.

[@ciphercode2298]

Yeah,its a nice mower, but not the best bang for your buck. You can get just as good a mower,that'll make you the same money for a couple grand less. A 700 series john deere,a gravely, cub cadet,all have commercial mowers under this $10k price tag. If you just wanna say you've got one,then ok. I think savvy buyers will shy away and look elsewhere. They should of offered a more budget friendly high end homeowners option for around $5k,just my opinion.

[@hellocheckco]

That's fair. They had residential mowers, but I didn't test those. I'm sure those were closer to the $5k price point, but typically when you buy a residential unit you void the warranty if you run it for a business.

[@tgh223]

700 seris is junk not made for commerical

[@ciphercode2298]

@@tgh223 what do you base the (junk statement on)? They're actually very nice mowers and are used quite alot by pros and large property owners. If you just dont like them then that's fine,but it hardly makes them junk. They have a 4 year 1000 hr warranty, 24" plush seat,24" Michelin twills,hydrogear z3400 hydros,8 gal fuel tank,7 ga deck,and Kawasaki fs or fx engine,and will do 9.5mph. There is better out there,but Deere's price,warranty, and service are tough to beat.

[@Omniverse0]

@@ciphercode2298 All the same price without the suspension system. The paint lasts a long time, but that's not everything.

[@bigsheeple652]

lol ... so the answer is ... yes, its the same thing, buy a ferris and wire your own usb in ...

[@marioncobaretti2280]

Stihl needs 5 yrs to know for sure.,ferris is no 1.

[@LegendLength]

suspension gets a bit overrated for zero turns, it's hardly needed

[@Camp-RiteRV]

Everyone has to understand a few things… it is 100% a repainted Ferris with only a few minor aesthetic changes. Stihl is not offering mowers at all dealers, it will only be a small handful of mower dealers for 2023. Warranty for Stihl is at Stihl dealer, Ferris/Stihl dealer warranties don’t cross over. The financing “0% for xx months” is built into the price of the mower. Nothing is free, you are paying for it. If you’re a cash buyer the Ferris unit will have a significant price advantage. The only real advantage Stihl will have is their “financing program”. And that’s not to say they’re giving any discounts, because this is NOT a fleet program, pay close attention to wording. Bottom line is they have a 7 year agreement with Ferris for them to build these mowers… but nobody knows how these will sell and/or if Stihl decides to buyout Briggs-Ferris and the Ferris nameplate disappears. Only time will tell.

[@hellocheckco]

This is really good insight and I agree... "no free lunch" is taught in economics 101! Thanks for the comment 💪

[@littlemechanicshop]

It might be a repainted but the second that mower starts to deviate from said manufacturing crap will hit the fan really fast. Just like STIHL’S moto mix. They don’t mass produce it but they did engineer it and if the factory deviates or try to rebrand it massive lawsuit will happen.

[@wysurvivor]

After the way they have dumped on me with their weed eaters, there is no way I would touch this mower

[@stevenpereira9631]

Just buy a Wright

[@hellocheckco]

Not a bad solution at all 😅

[@oooomoment5739]

The Stihl is a Ferris and we don't need the drama from the video. My Stihl dealer carries Hustler and BobCat. I don't see him signing up for Stihl over priced 'white labeled' Ferris mowers.

[@hellocheckco]

I think MSRP will be essentially the same for the Ferris and Stihl. It doesn't sound like they're going to charge extra for the orange and white paint job.

[@harrimanfox8961]

these probably won't sell well, as a good chunk stihl dealers are John Deere dealers. JD dealers are not gonna service or sell mowers which compete with their own, and they're not going to stop producing their own, well established Zero turns in order to sell stihl ones, much like they did with the outdoor power tools in the late 2000#

[@dreamsoftruth7729]

briggs and Stratton Engine no no no what is Kawasaki not making engines anymore ????

[@dannyboy6332]

Why not just buy a ferris for less money. Buying a stihl is a lateral move. Now, if it was a couple grand cheaper than ferris, then the stihl would be a good move.

[@PCGonline]

it can be a ferris or stihl. parts are going to have to come from Briggs & Stratton one way or another. I'll run Ferris on my rigs for years to come. my dealers mechanic said dont waste your money on stihl since the name will just add a few dollars to the price tag

[@mikespain8655]

I am a Stihl guy, for chainsaws, trimmers, blowers, hedge trimmers. The zero turn market is very competitive and saturated. Don't care, not impressed, and probably won't make a dent in market share with Stihl zero turns.

[@hellocheckco]

That's a hot take, but it carries weight from someone who is a Stihl die-hard. Thanks for the comment!

[@onthelake9554]

Briggs quality with a Stihl price . You might buy better but you won't pay more .

[@Cherokee10g]

That's simply garbage, the Briggs engine used on these zero turn mowers are the Briggs Vanguard engine, you can't do much better than the high quality Vanguard engine, Vanguard engine is a tuff long lasting engine, ask General Motors and other manufactures they use the all the time.

[@onthelake9554]

@@Cherokee10g I was referring to the Mower being built by Briggs not the Vanguard. And from my experience (alot) the Vanguard may prove to be ok but it's got a long way to go to compare to the years Kawasaki has made some of the best engines ever bolted to a mower.

[@Dogonatree]

$18000?? That’s a lot of yards…

[@Dogonatree]

Especially when dude and buddy down the road can do the same thing with a $2k mower

[@30pvfd]

Simplicity is same as Farris too ck it out

[@jessiestill4434]

That's knot an $18k clipper that's bs

[@dougpence3862]

I have a new Toro lithium, it sucks, drive wheel falls/self-powers off in 2nd hour, battery shorts, and on-line Toro will not take it back. They do not take items back if you use it for 1 minute! Their rear left geared wheel unbolts itself from the bracket, it self destructs! Two others have the same problem. Their repair dealer literally told me "with Toro, its Buyer Beware". I have a Toro case number, a BBB case number, and a US Consumer Product Safety Commission case number. Save yourself and learn from my mistake, and stay away from Toro.

[@billydankert1764]

It is a ferris mower they just painted it like Stihl and raised the price if you buy it they will stamp sucker on your forehead !!!! Lol

[@hellocheckco]

The MSRPs look really similar. I don't think its a huge markup. The question I have is, can ferris dealers sell under msrp? I doubt a stihl dealer would ever discount

[@brianwelch7074]

Buying this Stihl product (AKA Ferris) is a bad move. Ferris which is owned by Briggs and Stratton which owns other products are making bad products and getting worse by the year. They are making them with parts and charging you a lot the cheap parts that break. Stihl is going to regret partnering with Ferris on this deal. Two years tops!

[@hellocheckco]

I like this take, but we'll see. I've never personally ran ferris (no dealers near me), so I wouldn't know. But if you know this from experience, then that will be interesting to see it unfold. My only counter to this is that Stihl is SO well capitalized that they could pivot to a new manufacturer and be okay. I appreciate the comment!

[@bobbymorris8571]

@@hellocheckco I have a Ferris 3100z big block 30 hp it’s literally the off brand of a true ferris

[@hellocheckco]

@@bobbymorris8571 I believe it. One of the Ferris reps told me that Stihl added lights, a usb charger, and some other specs and changed the color.

[@adolpholiverbush5867]

Is that why it's the engine choice that's growing in popularity by a large margin year over year? Don't open your mouth if you have no idea what you're talking about. The engines and these mowers are great quality, arguably the best. If ferris with a Briggs had a Scag deck you'd have the perfect mower.

[@Tinkerton82]

Bad test. I have both ferris 2100 and 3200, both 61”. The ride is night and day between them. The is3200z is 10 times smoother and more comfortable than the 2100. You need to test the top stihl against the 3300, side by side and then comment. Wasted my time watching this.

[@32098c209]

Put it in real production not some pre fabricated wheat straw

[@hellocheckco]

Can't wait to. These aren't out in the wild yet... well or just go demo last year's Ferris cause its the same thing. LOL

[@borod5571]

STIHL shitting on there dealers again.

[@hellocheckco]

Again? I'm interested in what you mean... 🤔

[@gordonliddy9418]

I sure as hell wouldn't buy a ferris after all the mowing i've done with one. Ride is worse than a mower with flex forks, uneven cutting with their suspension system and the controls don't feel fluid at all.

[@tgh223]

i cant believe ferris did not sue sthil

[@hellocheckco]

Ferris is making them for Stihl

[@adamoutw3st]

Oh man...... too funny guy.

[@neachtarrsainn3216]

Buy the Ferris mower and save yourself $3000. When you buy a Stihl mower you’re just paying for the name and the paint job. SMH. 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@danz0007]

What a joke ! This is not a stihl product ! They sell alot of items that are someone 's else product just painted and there name applied to it and charge 30% more for it

[@MJF40]

Eh too late and nothing unique

[@hellocheckco]

Fair.

[@kwitt2190]

𝓅𝓇o𝓂o𝓈𝓂 💔

[@melonboi186]

The only reason I stick with echo is because most of stihl products aren’t worth the cost, 20 grand for a zero turn?! That’s ridiculous, and not to mention, the ms881 is just bad, you are paying $2300 for a saw that doesn’t cut fast, bogs down a lot, and floods constantly

[@hellocheckco]

Good thoughts. I run Shindaiwa which is owned by Echo.