Total Drama Revenge of the Island THEN vs NOW!

[@propandapower7633]

Additionally, it makes more sense for Lighting to spend an entire season thinking a girl is a guy if her name is Jo, whereas it would’ve been a bit of a stretch for Lightning to think “Mary” was a boy all season.

[@propandapower7633]

@JoGeJo maybe, but I still think Jo was a safe call.

[@CrystalClearWith8BE]

The name is transferred to Mary, a genius in The Ridonculous Race.

[@14td84]

Hi

[@propandapower7633]

@@14td84 go away Luis, we know it’s you

[@canadaisntreal]

@@thatpillowguy773 wow bro you got the whole squad laughing 😐

[@FreshlySqueezedSLOTH]

Original Mike looking like Shaggy from Scooby Doo do but doesn't have nowhere near as much power

[@jaxixteen]

The malevolent shag

[@v_sttes6668]

and jo looking like goldie locks and a pro at roblox

[@doodleboardgames2802]

To be fair, mal could stand a chance cause he op as stupid

[@ytvteletoonanimatekidvskatfan2]

Are You Kidding He Looks Like Jimmy Two Shoes

[@r6kuyas]

nah he looking like bootleg pico from pico's school/fnf

[@UncleHyena]

God I would’ve loved for Brick to be given more attention as a character, he’s easily my favourite. Out of all the butchered characters in All Stars, Brick would’ve been perfect for the ‘Heroes’ team

[@cogi4829]

finally someone agrees with me

[@husariuspl117]

Brick was actually considered to be in All Stars but he was replaced with Gwen (idk why, they could have just replace Sam)

[@UncleHyena]

@@husariuspl117 even then fuck Gwen’s inclusion. I love Gwen but the way they butchered just wasn’t worth it. At least Sam had his moments. I guess they needed one more villain and Brick couldn’t fit that role which is such a shame :/

[@husariuspl117]

@@UncleHyena I mean Gwen was better then in World Tour and at least she ended up getting 3 new friends, All Stars tried to fix Gwen after what they did to her in WT (or rather what CN did to her)

[@UncleHyena]

@@husariuspl117 I think her dynamics with other characters like Cameron was fun but yuck, I couldn’t stand her subplot with Courtney. Both were just so incoherent as characters anymore like they never watched the first season

[@xxLit3ral_L3gendxx]

3:01 That is such a cute character. I feel like they should’ve used her in roti as a different character going on the mutant maggots. I think it’s unfair that’s a Mutant Maggots got six members in the toxic rats got seven

[@ShinyShilla]

You mean Molly? I loved that design, and kinda ship her with trent

[@xxLit3ral_L3gendxx]

@@ShinyShilla is molly the one with the black short hair?

[@ShinyShilla]

@@xxLit3ral_L3gendxx yes!

[@princessofvideoshorts9897]

@@ShinyShilla she mentioned the one with red hair

[@xxLit3ral_L3gendxx]

@@princessofvideoshorts9897 ya.she right,Molly is also cute but I meant the one with the glasses and red ribbon

[@Crystal_959]

It’s kinda interesting how diverse the Total Drama cast was before that was really a thing people pushed hard for in television. I appreciate that tho

[@hazimhamid4992]

Not only that, the body type diversity is also one of the reasons this show is awesome. Like, some female characters have a slim hourglass figure, while some have curves and some have muscles. The same thing goes to the male characters

[@creamycream7081]

i honestly like diversity more in old shows (like magic school bus) than new ones because it feels more earnest (not saying diversity in newer shows is bad, or even ingenuine, just that sometimes "token representation" is incredibly egregiious)

[@maude.]

^ these three comments are cool.

[@thetwistedsamurai]

It makes it more... natural. Most shows nowadays, you can FEEL them trying to be "woke" and "inclusive". This show NEVER felt that way. It always felt natural af.

[@sdebord8707]

I think this is because older shows that had diverse casts felt it was important, but now shows use diversity as a marketing tactic

[@EmilioPerez-by2vk]

So Mike use to look like Shaggy from Scooby-doo.

[@Recongamer_2010]

THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT TOO LOL XD

[@user-py2fb8je5b]

Shaggy's doppelganger! Lol!!

[@Rosa-he6xb]

Dang, now all I can hear is “ZOINKS ZOEY! Let’s get out of here *proceeds to Scooby Doo run* “.

[@DannyJennyArtz]

Dang someone beat me to it. But yea his beta design looks so much like Shaggy. Makes me wonder if people would've noticed that if they kept it.

[@softvoicedboyfriend4031]

*Yeah bassicly...*

[@SwaggyG_2102]

I REALLY liked Molly's design. It gives off a tomboy like vibe.

[@thomaszloi9444]

When reloaded designs were leaked someone also revealed some personality traits and I remember she was like some weird kleptomaniac And that trait kind of became part of Dawn's character well she's not kleptomaniac but she was framed as one

[@jaxixteen]

@@thomaszloi9444 explains the odd shell she's holding

[@ryefryzz]

she looks like L from death note

[@haj_27]

@@ryefryzz true

[@pringlerss]

she reminds me of a human version of Mae from night in the woods

[@zeospark9715]

Another thing interesting about Brick is that, as seen in his concept art, he was actually meant to been an antagonist who was a lot more harsh and blunt toward the other campers. However, they pretty much gave that personality trait to Jo instead.

[@cxttyboy]

Also Zoey looks pretty antagonistic-ey

[@thewatcher9237]

Btw Old Scott/Brick’s “necklace” is actually dog tags. They’re basically military identification. Makes me wonder if Scott was going to be a military guy like Brick ended up being.

[@joemancool]

Could be he was going to be a reservist guy or something that green was the old undershirt to the CAF army uniform. Who knows though could just be a coincidence

[@rockcandyplanet]

Honestly the change for diversity really helped the show for me when I was little. Me and Mike aren’t the same ethnicity (my family is Mexican) but seeing a character with the same skin tone as me made him really special for younger me and probably helped him be one of my favorite total drama characters point blank. Also makes it feel more like an actual reality show where it feels like they actually picked a bunch of people from different backgrounds from the pool of auditions instead of pre-making them you know

[@LuCurly]

Wow I thought i was the only person who felt like that same

[@idiomatic444]

Hey my families Mexican as well, and yeah I related to him hard core

[@adrianasabode1583]

I’m black but same

[@inserthahafunniusername9656]

I'm a light skinned Mexican but I still felt connected to Mike cuz I thought he was probably Mexican cuz of his skin tone 😅

[@isaacguo5472]

Same here but chinese

[@SwaggyG_2102]

Maybe CA Scott was supposed to be like Brick but a bit meaner. Think of it like putting Heather, Duncan, and Brick all into one character and giving that person Scott's features.

[@atriox7221]

I imagine that early scot with dog tags and a dark green tank top as a smarter, more psychopathic and manipulative, more physically intimidating villain who takes the role as the main antagonist by a long shot, would have been cold but probably too skilled of a villain that would block out the image of smaller antagonists in the season.

[@davidkonevky7372]

I really love what they did with dakota, the reason she's so iconic is because she always looked like a paris hilton rip-off. Her beta design was cute but not really her style, i'm glad they used it to make the zoey we know and love.

[@donathan2933]

Agreed

[@pepsicannot]

Here is something you forgot to mention, during the development of Revenge of the Island, the season was supposed to come out in 2011, there is actually a teaser trailer made back in 2011, it was delayed because of the Fukushima earthquake that happen in Japan the crew made a few changes such as removing mention radioactive to toxic.

[@thickiebickie2361]

Oh woah that’s a cool fact!

[@ThomasTHEONEANDONLY]

I think Brick was meant to be the main antagonist looking at his concept design and Scott was meant to be the army cadet.

[@grimisnotgrim748]

Anyone else notice that both Zoey’s had red bracelets? Just me?

[@jaxixteen]

It seems that molly and zoey merged

[@salem-01]

Yeah, they did. Also they both had diamond earrings.

[@a.g.o.t.i.6331]

I did

[@IBubblesTV]

I did as well!

[@asher56507]

2:22 - Stacy 3:11 - Zoey 3:35 - Anne Marrie 3:59 - Dakota 4:22 - Jo 4:45 - Mike 5:54 - Lightning 6:08 - Scott

[@devilcookie8375]

Thank you

[@NateTheDragonoidAlicorn]

I thought one of Zoey's designs was for Dawn. And what about Beverly?

[@Kylivvi]

@@NateTheDragonoidAlicornhe didn’t have a beta design, dj’s camp tv design was the base for it, then they reworked it

[@Matamors2010]

You know that's racist of Mike's part

[@L1LY_L0v3s]

you forgot brick, sam and whatever this part is 6:48

[@kaydakitty3566]

5:39 I never noticed Mal in the background until now

[@AahJahahahhajzkzzjks]

who else thought dawn deserved better

[@alexandrefrauches132]

Me. She and B were awesome characters. Unfortunelly they were eliminated way too soon, with Dawn having one the most forcefull eliminations of all. They should had last some more episodes.

[@muraki3714]

Me!!!!!!! My 11 years old self had a huge crush on her and I can tell you I was immensely disappointed when she got eliminated after a mere 3 episodes.

[@Ekraelum]

Me!!

[@dany8749]

I think Dawn is a unique and original character with a lot of pottential and yeah, her elimination was pretty unfair

[@ryanp4616]

Brick, B and Dawn should have been in All Stars

[@Ragdollseerwxyzk0]

Molly is wonderful I want to see this design in the future with Original/Glass Zoey I wonder what their personality would be like I remember reading that Dawn's voice actress auditioned to voice Molly and a "Zoey"

[@CrystalClearWith8BE]

Speaking of Mike's propotype design, his appearance inspires Jimmy in Jimmy Two Shoes. After that, his body stays the same and his details and colors changed. That's a nice reference we see.

[@RodAnimations38]

If it wasn’t for the theme song being released on KZbin before the season was promoted in America I wouldn’t have notice it was coming

[@totallytaffyy]

6:40 og cameron literally looks exactly like the twins from the ridonculas race just different clothes

[@JAMPD3]

I also thought that because B didn't say much/last too long, they could've used that older/OG design as a self-reference and homage to how far they've come as a series

[@serPomiz]

out there theory, scott and brick original concepts were switched, with Brick being the one from the out in the country and scot the military brat then, during production, they inverted the thing with the updated design, lowered the brat-side of military brat and pushed directly to the country of the final version (and all-star) of scott

[@scorn-52]

If scotts og design made it to the final release, he would remind me of current Brick

[@rorothepartybro3413]

6:50 is anyone gonna talk about this? HE’S LITRALLY MICKEY FROM THE RIDONCULUOS RACE!

[@Gemnist98]

He mentioned it in the video.

[@rorothepartybro3413]

Ik I just commented this right before he said it

[@venomgaming7014]

My theory: beta brick was going to be the main villain for ROTI while beta Scott was going to be a military cadet. Just my theory, but I think it’s plausible. Note how beta Scott had the dog-tag necklace that final-design brick has.

[@UNDERSCORE035]

Wait since the new season is with a new cast. Do you think it’s possible they might use both beta zoey and molly be incorporated for new contestants? I just realized that in five minutes

[@jaxixteen]

I actually like the og zoey character, and what I think was left from her character was turned into jen from ridiculous race

[@party11440]

I think the beta Zoey design resembles a little bit of Scarlet from Pahkitew but that could just be me

[@jaxixteen]

@@party11440 I mean I guess, I think you're only seeing the height

[@SwiftGundam]

I'm in the middle of binge watching TD on Netflix, liked alot of the characters in Revenge of the Island, which is why I hate how we get so little of them. At only 13 episodes, we really didn't get to see them grow and evolve if they didn't make it into the next season. Wanted to see more of B, Dawn, Dakota(zoid), and even Brick.

[@treyheath9681]

B's close resemblance to the camp TV "original DJ I guess", I saw that man as a camera man.

[@Nexiusify]

I honestly think most of the new designs just look so much more refined and ready to go. Old Molly looks kinda scene and I like that idea.

[@Cable_Bone]

5:34 ✨excuse me are you a pickle?✨

[@KiTheMC]

This could have been twice as good if there were 26 episodes.

[@Yellowstone3000]

26-27 Episodes and 20 contestants With Blainley as the new host since Chris got locked up, also I haven't seen the reboot yet but I think both the reboot and revenge of the Island missed the opportunity to have blainley as the host

[@TheOutsideEmpire]

Zoinks Cameron, like how do I tell Zoey about my MPD?

[@vgmarkis]

Gotta be honest with her Raggy!

[@thatoneguy7366]

ruh roh

[@yeet76231]

I love that Mike voices light in the death note dub

[@MeltingMellons]

And molly is just discount L

[@BudgetGames69]

I wonder if old mike still had Svetlana, Manitoba, Chester, Vito, and mal.

[@Num1coinpinshipper]

Same

[@quinnlagoon3235]

Wait he said Mike was Italian, but when I was watching the show I thought he was Filipino, and I ended up googling it and a website I found said he was Filipino? I know he can be both since mixed kids exist, but that part confused me-

[@jeremyrush2018]

Mike today: I'm a tan Italian with MPD. I'm also dating Zoey and won All Stars in some places. Mike then: *S H A G G Y S H A W N I N T E N S I F I E S*

[@greendemon905]

4:35 That's just Shaggy from Scooby Doo.

[@ArcticSlayerMC]

Anyone else notice how old Cameron was very close to Mickey from the ridonculous race

[@yan13502]

4:43 Shaggy; the hell are you doing here?!

[@katoeismytoe]

DJ's Camp TV design was also featured in the Ridonculous Race as a background character.

[@GhostW1thTheMost]

4:54 im almost completely sure that i saw the pilot with that character design. I remember i walked into my older brother watching something in a summer camp and i remember a blond character with multiple personality disorder. When i watched the show, at the start i thought jeff had multiple personality disorder, since i watched it a few years later.

[@pokehorselover]

Also, 'Molly's' design still has the came bangals as 'Zoe's' design which I really like they kept it

[@strawberrysoulforever8336]

I wish they'd at least left the hipster glasses on Zoey. That would have at least given her one reason to be called "The Indie Chick". Then she could also be a bit more about not liking mainstream stuff, sort of like Gwen but with a more upbeat charm to her.

[@thewiz5571]

I think Sam, B and Brick were the best of TDRI

[@propandapower7633]

I think Cameron, Mike, Chester, Manitoba Smith, Svetlana, and Zoey, were all good characters, too. But not Vito. Fuck Vito

[@slivereaglexx353]

B brick should be in all stars

[@DexterPlayzXL]

@@propandapower7633 I agree

[@chaosgengar3357]

I can't agree most.

[@gabrialhopkins1126]

Personally dawn was on of my favorites

[@britishperson1]

mike looks like hes about to solve a mystery 💀

[@mandalorianhunter1]

About your channel, it was just recommend to me last weekend so I think the thing is KZbin is throwing your channel out there and people will look at it only to see if it's interesting. Luckily I subscribed

[@ThomasTHEONEANDONLY]

I like how you have scenes of each character in the background.

[@marco_supernova2704]

Facts: Gwen Zoey and Jo are among 3 characters who had their original names changed at some point: Gwen as Heather Zoey as Molly Jo as Mary (The name of the Geniuses Girl Of TDRR) And the only characters that didnt make it to the final cut in Total Drama Reuloaded are Dawn and B. And also the Adversity Twins design of Jay and Mickey looked liked Cameron's original design.

[@aubreyevans4124]

Original zoe looks like she's going to say hay

[@katie15732]

4:37 For some reason I think Mike was supposed have glasses or be blind because of this pose in the OG design

[@wassupxeo]

5:40 mal is that you

[@thegoblin4948]

While i think every change was for the better, i genuinely like Beta Zoey's design better than the final one, i don't know why.

[@husariuspl117]

I like both, while I prefer the change I hope that Zoey's beta design will be used in one of upcoming 2 seasons, looks cool in my opinion and would be a shame if it was wasted

[@AsrielTheHusk]

I like beta zoey, and she gave off tomboy vibes

[@QuackEasy]

Agreed beta Zoey's design is actually really good. I never liked Zoey's real design it just seems too costumey and unrealistic. The final design also clashes with her non-existent personality.

[@supertoddlemalrolllittlelu3192]

@@QuackEasy the Zoey who's with mike

[@Bluepetaldrawz]

The Zoey we got is really weird as Lindsay design💀 I prefer the original one fr

[@funi5180]

Zoe’s design also kept the red bracelets!

[@kerryannemacdonald8893]

I like a lot of the old designs and new ones.

[@zaynetbh]

It's weird how I've never seen someone talk about how there is 7 boys and 6 girls but they managed to eliminated 3 girls and 1 guy in the first 5 episodes. Leaving 2 times more guys than girls (3 - 6)

[@mihaitavraciu2248]

So what if they did? The last 3 girls were pretty powerful (except for Anne Maria) I mean we all saw what Zoey's true potential is so...

[@mysteriousdora6914]

@@mihaitavraciu2248 mm anne maria was alright, she just quit didn’t necessarily get voted off

[@mihaitavraciu2248]

@@mysteriousdora6914 yeah

[@jaborsey_joseph]

I kinda Scott's beta design better, I also get the feeling Scott's character and Brick's character were swapped during development

[@britejelly169]

Nobody is gonna talk about Mike being Shaggy?

[@letsrollthediceyeah]

4:38 my man went from a blonde white guy to a darker black haired dude also lightning still thick LMAO

[@manyachievables]

Holy shit OG Mike was literally just Shaggy

[@privateerbouncher9622]

Kneckless, Scott and Brick has Army dogtags indicating that Scott might have been a recruit as well as Brick

[@Aiko_Yukizo143]

5:40 DID I JUST SEE MAL!?!? You should pause at 5:40

[@urgirl_maci]

yea thats a design

[@Al-nq8pl]

Mikes first design looks like he’s blind 😂

[@area52ron]

I think Mikes old design looks more like Shaggy

[@stevenquartzcutiepiedemayo8272]

Scott and brick might have been inverts of each other so brick would've been the Scott and Scott as brick

[@Jellyman4]

(Potential Spoilers) Bricks head actually looks like a whistle, especially his early design.

[@Rubymation]

I Like Scott's beard I think it would play into scott's role as villain visually

[@DressToDisventure]

Mike's first design looked a bit like Shaggy from Scooby Doo.

[@someoneelse571]

Him: My theory why the design is change, It’s because it resembles another cartoon character named Jimmy Too Shoes Shaggy: I’m a joke to you?

[@iaminkermitable7344]

4:46 went from shaggy to raggy

[@bruhchannel1216]

brick deserve to be in next season

[@therosehuntress]

Mike's OG Design Be Looking Like Shaggy

[@maude.]

zoey’s og design is so cute

[@Savage_kings_official_Yt]

3:29 and they both got these red bracelets too

[@feltbonita]

bro they originally made Mike have Alex’s colour palette from Minecraft but then realised that Steve’s colour palette was more iconic and wanted to take inspo from that instead 💀 yall this is a joke, Mike just looks so similar to Steve.

[@march401]

Mike went from shaggy to steve from minecraft

[@johngonzales6510]

Based on the prototype designs, I think Molly’s design evolved into what we know today as Dawn.

[@moon13forever]

Cant believe we went from Shaggy to Steve.

[@Meg4nXD]

Mike really said "I was alex back then now I'm Steve" 💀

[@curtisleblanc5897]

I watched Jimmy Two-Shoes, how could I not have noticed the similarity in voice?!

[@AlbaniaIsTheBestFacts]

Imagine mal as mike’s original design💀

[@MrNosyNeasy]

4:43 old Mike looks more like Rodney than Mike honestly (the missing tooth and the hair sorta makes him look like Rodney)

[@bobi200samatar6]

Beta Zoey is so cute, she actually looks like a dorky wierdo.

[@supertoddlemalrolllittlelu3192]

Can she make out with parrapa tho

[@PJ_Wendigo]

Scott's beta design could legit pass as Scott's older brother

[@lntervention.]

Mike just turned into steve

[@POWDR]

man I gotta go back and watch ALL of this

[@drcheerioshehehe]

6:34 Oh I get it, Jay was supposed to be Cameron.

[@jaxixteen]

Mickey would have made more sense, he is more fragile

[@mrdismount1982]

@@jaxixteenaren’t they both fragile?

[@Toasted-Cat]

Old variant Mike looks like Shaggy

[@leftlaneopen]

To me looks like Francis from big nate

[@dustinleonard8548]

To make the roster equal, they should've added Molly.

[@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaDooplivian]

So Mike's voice actor who voices Mike and his multiple personalities also voices Jimmy two shoes? I didn't need to know that! Dear god Jimmy two shoes such a bad show! Dear god!

[@InternetMouse]

Im kinda glad that some of the characters look better in the final product than they do in the development looking at you staci

[@strawberrymeadows]

3:08 Molly (Zoey) looks like a female version of L (Death note)

[@MeltingMellons]

Yeah, her name would be Ella

[@jaxixteen]

@@MeltingMellons Ella from TDPI

[@MeltingMellons]

@@jaxixteen That season was trash

[@FluffieXStarshine]

I also noticed that the early Molly/Zoey and the final have the same red bracelet

[@midnalazuli793]

I like to think that Molly canonically exists in the Total Drama universe, but dropped out last second, and that explains why there's an odd number of players. For those who don't know, a similar incident occurred in the fourteenth season of Survivor, where one of the contestants dropped out mere moments before filming started, resulting in there only being 19 contestants. So I thought it be cool if Total Drama had something like that, lol.

[@endlesswaffles6504]

Mike looks like Steve from Minecraft.

[@Eradicus_97]

Yeah... I knew I remember B from Total Drama Action. He was on 2 or 3 episodes as some kind of low-level technical worker of the show (moving things, cleaning etc.) I rewatched few first episodes on KZbin and his first appearance is on episode 3 and his design is almost completely the same as in 4th season. Personally I know it could a longshot but I want to see kind of development for this character like this all appearances in past seasons wasn't accidentally (Even if they in really was) by making this part of his lore.

[@KastellazToez]

Bro old Dakota got zoey-fied

[@DatBoyNbZ]

"You can't just knock on someone's door and ask, Excuse Me, are you a pickle?" Lol

[@BuckBlaziken]

The original characters is what made the show so well, bur to the later characters credit, many of them are memorable as well, just not as much as the original characters. To this day I’m not too sure why they changed the original cast entirely.