Total War Warhammer 2 - ARABY Lore, Army, Units and Tactics

[@milkandcookiesTW]

Be sure to check out Italianspartacus channel! - kzbin.infovideos Araby was not fully fleshed out by Games Workshop, so some of the art is from other games but should give you a good idea of what you might expect to see in total War Warhammer 2. *Time Stamps Below* - Intro 0:00 Errantry Wars and the Crusades into Araby 5:38 Sudenburg and Imperial Influence in the Southlands 19:25 Arabian Magic -The Lore of Sand 21:24 Heroes and Legendary Lords - 26:17 Araby Army Roster - 32:00 Battlefield Tactics - 40:57 Campaign and Great Vortex Mechanics - 42:28

[@GlamdringandOrcrist]

milkandcookiesTW Isn't Ormazd the principle god of Araby?

[@giannipinotto4193]

Ormazd is a old one ?

[@GlamdringandOrcrist]

milkandcookiesTW I had also completely forgot that the Crusades were how the Knights Panther were formed, I did know about it being the birthing of the Knights of the Blazing Sun

[@GlamdringandOrcrist]

Gianni Pinotto No, he's like the Arabyan sun & desert god. I've heard The Inept General talk about him before.

[@johnnythedark3090]

Now its time for amazons and (more important) pygmies....

[@prestonfortner7168]

Yo I know these videos gotta take a lot of work, but they are the best lore videos you can find. Keep up the good work up two.

[@antonioarcano7989]

I agree, Milkandcookies is mostly MP matches but i love his lore vids.

[@Hargrovius]

Check IneptGeneral

[@ceeno9042]

Hargrovius Or Arch Warhammer, all three are pretty good

[@milkandcookiesTW]

Thanks for the support Preston will do :)

[@lastdefenderofxhotl]

Rebel Angel Arch often doesn't know what he's talking about like sometimes he just spouts things that aren't true and assumes the worst a lot but when he does his homework I really do enjoy his content.

[@kingstratagist]

I do hope they add them. they are such a unique faction.

[@kurogurochan7957]

Once tomb kings are added, they will be obviously added as minor faction dlc.

[@kingstratagist]

KuroGuroChan fair enough but I still want my Albion! There are soon fun to play with. Though I hope they do not go down the same route as warhammer army project did with them.

[@mr.cuddlesworth3144]

@@kurogurochan7957 I'm from the future, still no Araby faction.

[@domacin5992]

I never play with muslim factions in any tw game

[@beerbub2641]

@@domacin5992 I only play them lol

[@GlamdringandOrcrist]

My two favorite Total War & Warhammer KZbinrs working together. My day has been made

[@italianspartacus]

GlamdringandOrcrist xoxoxoxo!

[@Kingtot]

Would love to see a fully fleshed Araby, Tilea, Estalia and Kislev. I'm a humie normie XD EDIT: And Border Princes !

[@matthewchristiansen9978]

Since they've done such a great job with Norsca, that gives us some hope for the next two games. CA knows how popular those factions are, so they likely will throw them in at some point in the future.

[@ThaLedg]

I could see them expand on the southern realms but Imo, kislev is gonna be game 3 dlc. Should be a very challenging campaign

[@1Korlash]

ThaLedg Kislev will be DLC for game 1, since Kislev is in game 1. Maybe they'll be game 3's preorder bonus.

[@1Korlash]

There's actually some good lore for the Border Princes. The best way to represent them would be as a bunch of 1-province minors of various nationalities (Imperial, Bretonnian, Tilean, Vampire, Dwarf, and maybe a High Elf). They could have a mechanic where they unite when someone declares war on them, but otherwise they squabble and fight each other. (That mechanic wouldn't be super lore accurate, but it would keep the BPs from being quickly eaten up by other factions, which would be even less lore accurate).

[@richardround2071]

Kingtot it's part of the appeal of warhammer for me. It has lots of high fantasy elements, like dwarfs, high elves, magic, undead, but then there is lore which is just real world parallel, like the crusades, the Holy Roman Empire, Italian city states, etc, yet everything fits together.

[@hanktrim4302]

With the creative licence CA got to put together Norsca, it sounds like Araby is very likely. Flying carpets here we come!

[@Johnny-Thunder]

I hope they add Araby, I want to see the flying carpets. And if they add sorcerer Jafar I want his parrot to be voiced by Gilbert Gottfried.

[@theholyavenger]

Araby I think is pretty much a guaranteed DLC faction, along with Tomb Kings. They just added War Mammoths with the Norsca DLC so War Elephants seems a natural follow-up in game two.

[@boyo971]

glorious rohirrim cav charges into araby, then

[@sniped96you]

Joakim Ängehult i think the arabian elephants are going to ba smaller but maybe you get a unit of elephants rather than just one big. Armored variants and maybe even a cannon wielding one like in medevial 2 could be cool.

[@Grothgerek]

I, sure araby isnt a DLC Faction, because arbay is have nearly nothing to say in warhammer (Games Workshop). There only exist a bit lore, not more. The havnt even some units in the tabletop game. Its the first time for most warhammer fans to hear about them.

[@1Korlash]

Grothgerek Norsca never had an army in any form, and it got into the game. Araby had an army 11 years ago in Warmaster. If Norsca made it in as a playable, fleshed-out faction, why not Araby? Also, just because the lore didn't talk about them much doesn't mean they aren't an important nation in the Warhammer World. Araby is a cultured and powerful civilization. They have close trade ties to the Lizardmen and High Elves, and have interacted with Skaven in the past. It makes sense fluff-wise for them to get involved in the struggle for the Vortex.

[@Grothgerek]

Sry, i was sure that the norsca have a tabletop army etc But norsca are way more known than araby

[@1Korlash]

Too bad Robin Williams is gone. Him voicing the djinns would be amazing.

[@milkandcookiesTW]

Rest in peace Sweet Robin

[@italianspartacus]

My idol :(

[@scottb235]

We're never gonna have a friend like him...

[@TheBarser]

Haha, that would have been great :D

[@calimerohnir3311]

When Araby eventually comes out (hopefully) I would love to see the displaced minor bretonnian factions turned into horde armies... think about it, instead of beastmen, you would randomly see spawning an errantry army (maybe with a crusader reskin) how cool would that be?

[@1Korlash]

Calimero Hœnir That would actually be a pretty cool mechanic. Good thinking!

[@calimerohnir3311]

1Korlash thanks mate!

[@0GNAS0]

get a room

[@WarCriminal-y1u]

edgy

[@calimerohnir3311]

Dikpik Fishbait i suggest you go and take a look at PartyElite's source... the fan-made codex/army books are just a blast. warhammerarmiesproject.blogspot.com/ It especially gave me a few ideas regarding what new units could be added to Bretonnia's rather limited roster (it's not really CA's fault, it has mostly always been the case under GW). -For example you could add peasant levy with slings (the basic textures and already exist thanks to the -skaven) and also: -priestessof Shallya -Lore of the Lady -Templar Crusader heroes -Faceless Heroes -Truffle Hound -Herrimault and Brigand (one with swords and one with bows) -Bombard with peasant crew -Sacrosanctum -Fay Spirits -Arquebus

[@vastjuggernaut7591]

Great job milk really loved the amount of effort you two put into it.

[@milkandcookiesTW]

Thank you glad you enjoyed it!

[@djackd]

i hate sand magic. It's coarse and rough and irritating and it gets everywhere.

[@briancline7349]

djackd yeah that’s why I stopped casting it indoors, my mom got pissed at the mess it makes!

[@geroy57]

Anakin is that you ?

[@briancline7349]

geroy57 ? Are you saying I look like Anakin Skywalker? Lol

[@IamChalker]

Honestly, Araby is the most likely faction to be added after the Tomb Kings. But what I would really like to see are minor Arabic factions alongside the main ones. Obviously, we'd get 2 starts (one for each lord), but what if some of them were Nomadic Hordes? I mean, Araby has a lot of Nomads that roam the deserts. They'd be cool to see in game.

[@REDONI7]

i personally think amazons, beastmen subsets, and pirate undead are likely for dlc

[@Gobblin_Goblin]

I LOVE the idea of you having to make a choice between the forces of order or the forces of chaos and destruction. That would make Araby an extremely unique and interesting faction. Also a faction that you might have to keep an eye on in campaign cause you never know who they'll side with.

[@theDoctorwitTardis]

I was pretty much indifferent to Araby being a possible DLC faction however after watching this video I just feel the wonderfully exotic feel they would bring to the table and I am all up for it

[@filipgeorgievski5432]

Good catch on "Dry Well" soundtrack from Medieval II, it fits perfectly to the video as well as the information you provided here :D

[@MrBloodySpirit]

These lore videos are very interesting. The Warhammer world has such a deep and interesting lore, it's sad it was scrapped for Age of Sigmar.

[@Luis519RS]

I would actually make camele riders mid tier, and make them inmune to vigor. Since it kind of make sense that cameles don't tire out as other cavalry units do.

[@seangarcia3518]

So much nostalgia whenever I hear music from M2TW/ M2TW: Kingdoms.

[@rossveillette8077]

Tilea is the user of mercenaries (modeled after Venice). Estalia is modeled after Spain and has standing armies as well as providing the 'conquistadors' in the new world.

[@1Korlash]

Ross Veillette Technically, Tilea is the nation that sends the most armies to the New World. They have the cash, the troops, and the naval expertise to send armies out almost monthly. Estalia might do it (and certainly Estalians have joined Tilean ventures), but it's never been talked about in the fluff.

[@axelNodvon2047]

1Korlash idk why but Estalia gets so much less lore thanTilea

[@1Korlash]

Mann Tau Because Tilea once had a full army book (Dogs of War) that elaborated on its fluff. Estalia didn't, so it's got way less fluff.

[@partydean17]

Estalia is still mercenary heavy compared to other factions besides tilea and border princes

[@tatin82]

DLC factions I want to see for game 2: Tomb Kings, Araby, Albion, Amazons.

[@oregonizedwarfare9379]

Excellent video! I love that you two are collaborating as I am a big fan of you both!

[@italianspartacus]

was great doing it! more to come!

[@lurl5405]

I think that as a faction it's almost completely necessary to be present. Geographically it would make all the more sense putting southlands in a flavourful state. I'm a bit fearful for the units, but otherwise they'll make a very wholesome and down to earth faction, as you said. As for the campaign, seeing as the two LLs as we know them are quite magical based, I'd say either something along the lines of a magical item easter-egg hunt, going far across the map for trinkets of importance might be a better way for them to go as far as the main campaign, for the Vortex campaign however, I don't feel like it can go any further than "Not the destruction of the world! all my things are there!". Ideally though; I want my elephants, I want my lore of sand, I want my Arabyan prince and princesses. And I want them to be one of the comfiest campaigns going.

[@d180jnr]

Anyone else feel sad that this probably won't happen now :(

[@thegreatbookofgrudges6953]

Well, gimme those flying carpets.

[@1Korlash]

the great book of grudges And djinns!

[@episode.1-mysonicocisdevel499]

and give me some of that delicious curry recipe.

[@maxmustermann-zx9yq]

actually they are masters of stealth, so good you cant even see them on the map

[@HazardMaks]

Thank you Indy for this video! Superb as usual. Can't wait for Araby, as a Middle Easterner, It's nice to finally be able and relate to something in Warhammer. :p

[@IDontKnowYouWhoAreYou]

as a middle easterner???? thats not a fucking race lmao thats a region in asia!

[@manumea4170]

@@IDontKnowYouWhoAreYou He never said it was...

[@davidcharron8890]

I really want this to happen simply for the Aladdin jokes that I know are going to flood the Internet if this gets announced.

[@filipgeorgievski5432]

Mirage ability already implemented in Alith Anar spells where he duplicates himself. Also, the chief manager of upcoming DLC's said something about the Crusaders that they don't belong there in one of his interviews for Tomb Kings. Furthermore, they announced 4 LL pack that is a little while away, so I bet they can do Tilea and Araby both having 2 LL each and finally the whole Errantry War will have strong meaning as well as all Araby contained events ( weapons, trade goods ) and lastly the introduction of Sartosa into Mortal Empires

[@bruhb7611]

I think Araby should also have gun powder weapons like camel guns and such, consider how long the had been occupied by the Empire and a breeding ground for pirates.

[@MrSafior]

Yeap, I will love to see an Janissaries type elitre infantery unit who play like the Sea guard and have musquet and hallebard has weapon.

[@1Korlash]

According to the lore, Arabyans do use gunpowder weapons, but they're neither as advanced nor as numerous as Old Worlder weapons. Also, they don't seem to really use slave soldiers. So Jannissaries are out.

[@spacewolfblackmane19]

@@1Korlash to be fair because GW never really touched on this faction, or any of the eastern factions (and Britionea to a less but still soul crushing degree) out side of token appearances in Empire, Dwarf, and Elf lore and usually only in reality old 1st -3 edition lore as far as I can tell. They could do almost anything if they got Simi regular updates, but just like the Fimir they were forgotten and left to the wayside of lore.

[@kommendant]

indy and itasparta is legend. no other do lore as interesting as u guys with the enthusiasm

[@Pizzifrizzo]

Actually, Dreadfleet lets US know that there are different kinds of djinns that can be unleashed against the enemy: Ice Syrens, Desert Spirits, Fire Efreets and a kind of storm djinns whose name I can't recall. The former two could be a several models unit, the latter two single model ones.

[@italianspartacus]

Pizzifrizzo via the Golden magus! :D

[@Pizzifrizzo]

ItalianSpartacus Hahaha, I know, but what I meant is that they could also be included as "standalone" units in the roster. Also, you forgot about the eunochs, who would be such a great addition. Also, the Dread Daughters of Tariq could be some kind of kisho-esque unit or RoR. Btw, you and Indie are great together, keep up your good work!

[@orkz7258]

Great video. Yes please to Araby! I want the iconic enemies in for Tomb Kings to make the Tomb Kings campaign and conquests complete. The lore here was really in depth and why I enjoy these videos. Gave us all a good idea of possible units and army composition, I do think their unit variety is quite unique which makes them a good candidate. 4 Spells is enough for the lore of sand even if they can't invent any, just give their spellcasters another lore or two.

[@Kousaka_Kyousuke]

I hope these guys get added now that cathay is confirmed

[@aksmex2576]

Their lore should really get a rework in the new warhammer old world. I think it was just a bit of wishful thinking on how the author wished the crusades had went in real life. In real life even, in the 9 or so crusades there were alliances, trades, and even marriage between both sides, not just warfare. In the first crusade some places were indifferent to the crusades, as those lands had recently been conquered by the Seljuk Turks so it was just paying tribute to a new group of nobility than before. There is even a story about how Muslims prayed with templars in a chapel, and that the templars were polite to him. The unit roster is intriguing but I doubt if they will make it into the game.

[@blazindragon1833]

I'd love to see more videos like this based on Albion, Amazons and about some of the other sub-factions

[@AlreadyDead87]

Great video guys, didn't really know much about Araby

[@MrBkatt]

I hope Araby will make it into the game so badly, they are such a unique faction. CA, just do it and TAKE MY MONEY!! ;)

[@Azoth86730]

I love their flying carpets, I would like to see Araby as an army.

[@michaelmedrys8401]

Loved the random Star Wars reference at 21:30. By 21:32 I was already smiling and playing that scene from episode 2 Clone Wars in my head. Well played sir

[@Tyreonn]

I could see them channeling the vortex into a powerful dschinn to maybe grant them some sort of ultimate wish. World peace or dominance, remains up to the player.

[@taurentino]

Theres a pretty strong case to be made for Albion showing up in Game 2. They did wood elves, beastmen, and bertonia in game one so you could expect to see Tomb Kings, Araby, and Albion in game 2 with starter factions getting updates throughout.

[@kyragem9491]

Really? What does Albion have to offer then? What even is Albion? Does it actually have a roster? Any impact? Is it just like Nippon with next to absolutely nothing known about it until it got completely obliterated during The End Times?

[@Relixification]

Kyragem Albion is more or less a more civilized version of Norsca, Nippon is literally Japan with all its demon (yokai) hunting armies, shinobi ninjas, best humanitarian disciplines of martial prowess and archery. So its not next to absolutely nothing.

[@1Korlash]

Kyragem We actually know a good deal about Albion. It's a swampy, misty island with a magical fog around it that makes getting there difficult. Lots of large, magical Waystones (think Stonehenge) dot the island, and they help channel the winds of magic into the Great Vortex. Without Albion, the Vortex wouldn't have worked and Chaos would've consumed the world. The island is very mysterious to the people of the Old World. Albion's populated by humans who are essentially ancient Celts a la Rome 2. They're led by druids, spellcasters who safeguard the island and the Waystones from invaders. The druids can also call upon Fen Beasts, giant swamp elementals of great power. Albion is also home to large and powerful giants, some of which have a cyclopian eye. The largest giant of Albion, Bologs, and another giant are currently running around the Old World along with a druid. They were taken to Tilea by Curious Gesar after Gesar's failed invasion of Albion (an obvious reference to Julius Ceasar's failed invasion of Britannia). When Gesar was assassinated, the giants and druid broke free and now offer their services as a Regiment of Renown. Recently a group of druids has turned traitor and are conspiring to conquer Albion. Chased off by their former kin, they travel the Old World trying to convince rulers to attack Albion with their armies. You can even get an event in-game where one of them asks you to support them. The Ineptgeneral made a great video about Albion. You should check it out. :)

[@kyragem9491]

Really? Where did you get this Nippon lore? I'd love to read it. Because you know, all we know about them is they trained Clan Eshin for some reason. But if you'd like to show me their lore, I'd be glad to read it. Maybe I'll even change my views, forget every other major faction, and sign on purely to Nippon who will be only able to fulfill my thirst for whatever the hell they'd add.

[@kyragem9491]

So it's Warhammer England with a fuckton of Sorcerers and Giants. Exquisite, I'm sure that such a video would be an enriching experience with a faction that would add so much depth and variety. So about that Army Roster.

[@charlesman8722]

If this happens there needs to be a play through with Djinn named Robin and everytime he does ANYTHING a Robin Williams voice plays.

[@ethanhunstiger4868]

A Roc would be like a Great Eagle but the size of a dragon. Those things eat elephants like normal eagles eat rabbits.

[@70757thCharlie]

Flying carpet, war elephants, ashashins, camels, sand lore = amazing faction i want to play :D

[@blazindragon1833]

I can almost guarantee that they will have Araby in TW:W2 due to the fact that it would help greatly as in the third game as possible temp Kingdom of Ind factions.

[@MGStuffChannel]

damn love you two and I love it when u drop 1 hr lore videos for my commute to school

[@milkandcookiesTW]

Hope you enjoyed it!

[@seppafer]

i want to see the empire get more knightly order units like the knights panther using the same method of recruitment as the knights of the blazing sun maybe when araby is released

[@partydean17]

AWESOME VIDEO GUYS! So glad y'all made this I would love to see araby get a bretonnia treatment and get a free lc shortly after tomb kings are buyable

[@TheElholm]

These are amazing. So much lore, and i enjoy how you present each factions! Thanks!

[@recreantraze5248]

Pre-order race for TWW3 is Araby BELIEVE IT!

[@angrydude675]

Aaaaaahhhhh so close to 50k subs, half way to 100k. Well done man keep up the awesome work. You are by far my favorite KZbinr😘

[@milkandcookiesTW]

Thanks man :)

[@jefthereaper]

I really want most, if not all the official human factions. They could really spice up the roster.

[@arn1345]

They did pull a lot of units from more obscure lore sources to make some Norscan units(Were-kin and Fimir warriors). Honestly since both Araby and Kislev got a Warmaster list (an expansion for WHFB) I think it's highly possible to see these two factions as DLC. Would also be convenient for adding a human faction with each Total War Warhammer title. Warhammer 2 can get Araby as the human faction. Warhammer 3 can get Kislev as the human faction since Warhammer 3 will be Chaos focused and Kislev is always the first on the Chaos warpath.

[@milkandcookiesTW]

Yeah I think thats very logical for sure

[@ShockFist]

Araby and i believe Ind were involved in the end times, so i see them making it as DLC factions atleast for game 3.

[@kimba9417]

very sad that they didnt add them yet

[@tullussulla6167]

two words. FOR SIGMAR!!!

[@Chickidydow]

maybe djinn should work like the ethereal heroes from Clan Angrund?

[@thegreatbookofgrudges6953]

I really love the lore of knightly orders of the empire and the name is knights of the everlasting light. And Those knights fucked up really fuck up because they dealing with wrong village and got really bad cursed upon them in the they will have really great service for the empire but they will died in hilarious death. like fall from the stairs, choking on their food, when their fighting their were broken and random quicksand comes up and drowning them.

[@IDontKnowYouWhoAreYou]

humanity depravity their sins consumed them jehahahahahahahah the seven deadly sins already killing the fools

[@sethcaplan859]

CA knows we need a faction with cataphracts

[@lordkroak1731]

Golden Magnus would make a nice Lord for Warhammer total war because he controls loads of djinns and is a worshipper of tzeentch

[@TheBobville]

I want to play as Arabia

[@MorroTreece]

Wish Warhammer went more into the Eastern factions before just blowing up the world and making that unoriginal mess they have now.

[@axjkalsok1058]

Cesar Cordova GROUND MARINES, CHAAAAAARGE!!!

[@1Korlash]

Poor flagellants. :( But I agree about the far eastern factions. They sound really cool, especially Cathay.

[@hatac]

There may be a way to add them as a kind of naval game play element. If your faction is working sea ports and coast lines for extra loot them adding Cathy, Nippon and Ind as sea ports with a small hinterland And limited army lists of re- skinned units. Would work. you take the port and they counter attack. They may also show up on your shores as horde armies poking the west for vulnerabilities. I proposed a way to put them in against both the Ogers and Kislev in a battle for the silk road. Its also a shame we don't have South lands army lists for African type Humans (hinted at but never done properly), The Lost Isles of Elithis (I'm an Australian). I have army lists for both in the works but a lore book is more than lore and units. I need illustrators.

[@GLeija-ct5qx]

This faction would be cool to be in the game I could make customs battles of them vs the empire

[@chubbyninja89]

I hope that if the have the Djin for Araby, that it's a powerful magic creature rather than just some monster. But they really have to make them say "Phenomenal Cosmic Power!" when they use their most powerful magics. That would be a fitting tribute for Robin. Though I do hope they bend the lore a little, to allow units like Janissaries and some others.

[@sunlion2136]

well in arabian mythology Djin is couterpart of angles and most powerful djin is lbish {known as a saten } other djin are marid ifrat nasnas and shiqq .....

[@chubbyninja89]

Oooook. What does all that mean?

[@sunlion2136]

that means if use this logic then arbay is not Monotheistic because the djin challenged allah authority {changed name~ son god } then how possible that you get a creature support who challenged your only supreme god . 2nd peoples arbay may be worship dark god ilbis also .. btw arbay lore is boring so i added pre islamic flavor > arbay infiltrate by dark elf cultist people known as A'RA worshiper who perform human sacrifice they deal with dark elf a'ra is pre Islamic god en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A%27ra

[@chubbyninja89]

Well, it seems to not have gone too well for them since they're not the ones who are worshiped in Araby. And your mom is boring.

[@sunlion2136]

{And your mom is boring.} hfff ***** arbay have no proper official lore just many fans... making stories and{only crusade story mentioned properly } no doubt iam one one of them .

[@williamjugo1312]

Yaas!!!! I love the lore vid and props for doing a vid with ItalianSparticus, i subbed him a few weeks back. I think they could make a proper melee hero LL outta scratch like making the prince/princess of the grand sultan, something similar to Alberic De Bordeloux. I really like that siding with good or evil mechanic though. I would also like an economic victory condition. Either earn x amount of income through either trade or raiding. I would also like them to have a unique trading good spices and perfumes only available in araby. Gosh I hope they make them unique but also function not to differently from bretonnia or the empire since they are after all just human. Lastly I think their God is Ormaz The Nekarin God of the Sun and they only worship Ormaz. Keep up the good lore vids.

[@leopoldjenkins]

Really good fun to listen to. Loved the artwork too

[@GrimgoreIronhide]

I am going to love playing Araby. I really like minor factions, and the idea of giving the Major players, and esspecialy the dark elves a hard time as the arabians really just tickles me pink. They have been at it for thousands of years and are pretty sure the fate of the world rests in their hands once the High Elves are gone, when all of the sudden a load of desert dwelling human spice traders show up to turn the tide, and piss in their cereal. Also, REALLY hoping that we will see a light cav faction with this one. Maybe it will persuade CA to get in gear and revamp the elven light cav as well in response. The driving faith of Araby seems to be modeled after Zoroastrianism rather than Islam. They were also a roughly monotheistic, and the name of the God in Araby is one of the names of Ahura Mazda, the God of zoroastrianism. Since the rest of the details are kept rather vague this seems very probable to me. In Warhammer the Arabians didn't spend hundreds of years ravaging the Old World like the Islamic caliphates did to Europe, so the dynamic is going to be a lot difrent between them and the Empire/Bretonnia. Kind of like to see a united humanity, or something close to it here, and nothing brings people together like massive invasions of Chaos, Undead and Orks. Another thing I am really hoping to avoid here, is Araby becoming a speed bump for the Tomb Kings, which I think is in some danger of happening. The Arabians have always been pointed towards the sea and towards trade, rather than inland and towards tomb raiding, so the two factions don't really have as much incentive to fight one another as their close proximity would sugest. I for one and hoping that the Great Desert will act as a barrier and Tomb Kings will sort of be naturally drawn up into the Northern Badlands, or Southern Jungles, while Araby will be more encouraged to cross the seas and stick to the coastlines of the difrent continents. P.S. Rocs should be analogous to Terrorgheists, rather than dragons. There is also a giant flaming Griffon called a Simurgh in Persian myth which is as strong as a Dragon. Hoping we might get to see them somewhere in here.

[@GlamdringandOrcrist]

I'd dare to guess that we'll get the Amazons as well. A lot of those ruins in Lustria could be perfect starting positions for them

[@sarblader]

Lol, Araby is already a far dream, considering that GW NEVER gave a shit about it, Amazons are pretty much impossible.

[@GlamdringandOrcrist]

Doesn't matter if Games Workshop didn't give a shit about them. It only matters if Creative Assembly does

[@1Korlash]

Sarblade Araby had an army and models in the game Warmaster. Amazons didn't. Based on this, we're way more likely to get Araby than Amazons.

[@GlamdringandOrcrist]

1Korlash That's why I think the Amazons will be the third faction released. Indy and Sparty used the fan made army book that Mathias Eliasson made for Araby to draw inspiration for this. He's made a bunch of them, including one for the Amazons. CA could draw inspiration from them as well.

[@GlamdringandOrcrist]

At 14 minutes in, there is a picture of a page straight out of his army book

[@AndersMurberg]

Kinda cool that the shields of the Knights of the blazing sun says "Sol Invictus" which means "cult of the undefeated sun"

[@boyanpenev9822]

Actually, IIRC Estalia does not rely on mercenaries for its military - Tilea is. Estalia is meant to be medieval Spain, Tilea - renaissance Italy.

[@jean-barbe7340]

Exactly. People often tend to mix up Tilea and Estalia, but they really don't work the same way. The Dogs of War army book mostly talked about Tilea's mercenaries, not estalians (except maybe Pirazzo lost legion? I'm not even sure).

[@1Korlash]

Boyan Penev We don't actually know enough about Estalia to say whether or not it relies heavily on mercenaries. They've just never had much focus on them, and we really don't know how they fight. My best guess would be that the Estalian cities field 1500s tercio-style troops, while the mountain tribes that are mentioned in the fluff can provide almogaver-style light infantry and jinete light cavalry. I'm not sure about Estalia's heavy cavalry, but they do have at least one native knightly order there. They probably use mercenaries too, since the Spanish relied on them a lot during the Renaissance to bulk out their armies. I think they have an inquisition, so that can also provide units and a hero or two. Again, this is all pure speculation. As much as I'd love some Warhammer Spanish and Portuguese to be in the game, most Estalian "lore" floating around out there is actually fan-made, so there isn't much canon material to build an army with. We actually know more about Cathayan armies than Estalian ones. Make sure whatever info you find about Estalia comes from a verifyable GW source. (Also, Estalia never had an army in any Warhammer game to my knowledge, so any army books or lists you'll find are all fanmade.)

[@1Korlash]

JeanPierreXV Review We don't know if Fernado Pirazzo (yes, that is the official spelling) and his troops were Estalian or Tilean. In the lore, they were dispatched to Lustria by the Tilean city of Tobaro, which borders Estalia in the west, so they could be a mix of both nationalities (plus Imperials and whoever else signed up for the expedition). Pirazzo's name is definitely more Spanish than Italian, but he's described as training his troops in the Tilean way of fighting (pikes & crossbows). This means that, whatever his background, he likely honed his skills as a mercenary in Tilea. Other than that we don't know enough to say anything about if they're Estalian.

[@derrickwineinger9586]

Hey, I've been watching your videos for along time now. I'm really interested in your lore videos and was hoping one day you could expand them over to age of sigmar. I know it might not be a popular topic but I feel like it has a lot clever transitions from the original fantasy lore. Thanks if you read this!

[@nakenmil]

I think the Arabians could have a goal of their own for the Great Vortex. If you consider the Djinn, you could make it a goal for them to control the Vortex in order to control the elements and thus summon and control more djinn, perhaps an army large enough to control the world seas.

[@parbuono7]

21:27 the Senate has declared illegal the act to quote "Clone Wars" phrases

[@unnamedshadow1866]

The best Vortex Mechanic would be the one for the Tomb Kings though. The only faction that competes with itself. Settra and the other Tomb Kings, fighting to use the Vortex as a way to attain true immortality. As was promised ages ago. Arkhan and his minions, fighting to use the Vortex for one purpose only, the resurrection of Nagash. Would be very interesting. As depending on the faction you play, your goals for the Vortex Campaign would be different. Tomb Kings would be the only race that would have internal conflict and different objectives on their quest for the Vortex.

[@DeadMarine1980]

Second time I watched this video! Love your guys work. But just an add on idea for units. Araby would also have gun powder weapons, those that can even be considered "equal" to Dwarve guns. Another KZbin video went in real depth of Araby fire arms. And two units they highlighted was their great cannons and Pirate skirmishers. Interesting units. Their great cannon is like three times the size of a standard empire cannon, and requires a whole crew to man it. They also have corsairs who hide behind sand dunes waiting for the perfect moment to strike. And when they do it's too late for their victims because they cut them down with percussion musket fire.

[@gacku7847]

" Games Workshop's nuclear basement." Alright, you got a good laugh out of me.

[@shawn2529]

Yes, I would like to see this Faction Playable. CA have a lot of models from Rome Total War-2 that can be use as Araby. Such as Parthian units as an Example.

[@blazindragon1833]

I think that Al Muktar and Mullah Aklan'd could be the other two Araby Legendary Lords with Jaffar and The Golden Magus. We might even see Baron Odo with Sulaiman for Bretonnia

[@zoal2444]

Some of their cavalry having maces would be really cool

[@icyburger]

Looking beyond the silly names and the cliches... this might be the coolest looking faction

[@destrosis555]

Hey Indy! Great video once again. Had a question in regards to game 3. How do you think they're going to make the final game in the trilogy appealing? I feel like with the remaining factions (Chaos Dwarfs, Ogres, Chaos demons etc.) it seems as though it's going to be extremely hard to achieve the hype factor that comes along with being able to play as the iconic factions that are in game 2. Interested in hearing your thoughts!

[@1Korlash]

Null and Void Cathay would be great. Imagine vast armies of disciplined Chinese soldiers, backed up by terra cotta warriors, agile monkey warriors and their wily king, powerful wizards that can steal magic from Tzeentch, temple dog/lion satues that come to life, and great, golden, serpentine dragons soaring over the endless ranks of troops ready to fight and die for the Dragon Emperor, who may or may not be a dragon in human form. The Kurgans would also be great. Chaos Mongols. Need I say more? They're just as important to the Warriors of Chaos as the Norscans, and are even more feared by the Empire.

[@giannipinotto4193]

They can probably add other minor factions. Like vampire bloodlines , kislev, hobgoblins , albion ecc. .. (even a military expedition from a difficult faction like cathay ). Since the map of game 3 , will be darklands and northen wastelands.

[@temujinkahn22]

there is a bit of lore about arrow cannons and statues that swim through the ground.

[@axjkalsok1058]

Null and Void its not just chaos daemons. Theyre gonna have unique factions for each of the chaos gods which will likely be our four starting factions. Chaos dwarfs, ogres, etc will probably be dlc. If thats not your thing thats cool but im super hyped for that

[@1Korlash]

Isaac Delgass I hope they're not the only starting factions. That would feel really lazy, considering that they're already splitting a single army into 4 (which I support because it's fluffy and thematic, but still).

[@Rekksar]

last time I checked Estalia borders Bretonia, why would you ever need to go through Tilea first?

[@1Korlash]

Rexxar_Nor You don't. Jaffar just attacked Tobaro because he thought it would be easy pickings. (Maybe the Skaven advised him to do it because they wanted to soften the city up so they could take it.) However, the Tilean inhabitants and mercenaries defended the sea walls so tenaciously that the Arabians couldn't even land troops on the plains outside of the city. Eventually, the Arabians withdrew. It was the first defeat they'd suffered since their invasion began, and was the start of Jaffar's fall from power.

[@GlamdringandOrcrist]

I think we get Saladin & the Magus. Jafar is confirmed dead, so yeah. It's not like for certain legendary lords that might be dead but aren't confirmed, such as Gorebad Ironclaw and Grom the Paunch of the Greenskins

[@robertoatham243]

If they make araby would love to see them have a campaign affect similar to the white dwarf like every 20-30 turns they get three wishes what buff there nation, as if a genie granted them to them or something

[@sinaparsi6736]

That picture 15:38 - 17:20 "ish" is Persian Heavy Cavalry (pushtigban or savaran) ... either way made for / inspired by Rome 2 Total war.

[@milkandcookiesTW]

yes its Sassanid art from Total War Attila

[@Griffolion0]

Those Black Scimitar Guard are basically Persian Immortals without the weird ass masks.

[@italianspartacus]

did i say that?

[@LordJustinian20]

I think if you allowed the choose your side thing it would really spice things up. Make it very replayable.

[@alexs_toy_barn]

it seems unlikely that there would be two desert-themed factions as DLC, in the form of the Tomb Kings and Araby. A Dogs of War army or Vampire Coast army would be totally sweet as DLC too. but all 4 would be great as well

[@TheCasseland]

Sounds like they are going to add a "Desert DLC" TOMBKINGS AND ARABY at The same time

[@GlamdringandOrcrist]

Here's the problem with Arabyan Rocs. We already have Rocs in Ulthuan, the ones that pull the Lothern Skycutters. This is why I think getting giant vultures instead is more likely.

[@1Korlash]

GlamdringandOrcrist Just give Araby a different kind of giant bird. Besides, it's not like Great Eagles are unique to High Elves.

[@BlueBird-wb6kb]

Add Djinn's ! Also Flying Carpet unit as a cheat code, kinda like the car from AOE2

[@LordEsel88]

According to the fan-made army book for Araby, the god of the Arabyans is called "Ormazd", or simply "The One". I can't find any official sources using this name, but among the early editions of the game the Arabyan god was called "Allah". It's really jarring that GW didn't invent another name back then. Even calling the god "Al-ilah" would have been a better decision. Also, having Araby follow a monotheistic religion makes them really odd in the Warhammer world given that we, the readers, know that there ACTUALLY exists many gods in the setting. This makes Araby really not fit in the world. If they had a religion which favoured one god out of many gods, similar to the Empire, it wouldn't have been a problem. Pre-Islam Arabic gods would have been a very interesting source of inspiration to invent a fictional Arabyan religion. (Personally I find the old polytheistic Arabian faith, and the ancient culture, very interesting.) It seems GW deliberately avoided this subject so that they wouldn't have to deal the inconsistent lore. If CA do make Araby a DLC race, they have to invent much of the lore themselves to fill in the blanks and patch up the inconsistencies. And that may pose legal IP problems with GW, and they have to come to some kind of agreement.

[@1Korlash]

Kopesh88 GW's given CA the green light to explore factions that the fluff mostly ignored due to the game's success, so it shouldn't be a problem. Heck, GW might even lend them its fluff department to help out.

[@Hargrovius]

While Araby is monotheistic, the people are very superstitious and try to placate different natural spirits.

[@IDontKnowYouWhoAreYou]

as a non Muslim jehahaha humanity is depravity allah = god translated in english jesus = isa also translated to arabic, just like the spanish name for hesus i cant spell it lol so when i see troll people saying allahu akbar or some shit have they become muslims? it means god is great

[@Ezekielepharcelis]

Nice to hear that, maybe you remember me asking you if Araby is possible in TWWH2 ? Back then (it's been a while) you doubted it. Now you think it would be possible which sounds great to me. Would be really awesome if that would become true. Flying Carpets ftw :)

[@ptavangar]

One of the main reasons I believe we'll see Araby is that aside from a couple units, they'll be super easy for CA to make. If you want to predict what CA will do next, always think from a money saving point of view and you'll be right most of the time. Lol

[@huw_griff2064]

I love the medieval 2 music

[@kingkess4709]

I think you guys got estalia and tilea mixed up....But other wise awesome video

[@AJ-wn4bm]

After the Tomb kings i think we need an Arkhan the Black undead faction

[@gluever54]

You know if they do add araby and they do add the flying carpet wizards i'm gonna mic spam "I can show you the world" in mp

[@dawatchng]

Thanks for confirming Araby my dude.

[@milkandcookiesTW]

Confirmed!