Totally Busted Rogue Build For Baldur's Gate 3

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FireSpark81

FireSpark81

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@Firespark81
@Firespark81 Жыл бұрын
I know a bunch of you are going to be like you can do this with a warlock and darkness. Yes I know, but there are a few things that set this apart and make it better. First, I have already done a darkness build you can see that here kzbin.info/www/bejne/gIjbmWWdft1qadE Second, you can't be as broken with darkness as fast as you can with fog cloud. You would need 3 levels in warlock and 2 in rogue. This is because even in darkness you need to hide. The AI knows you are in there if you do not hide and it can find ways to attack you. I know, I have tested it thoroughly. Lastly, the final form of this build can cast fog cloud infinatly and you can't do that with darkness. You can get the items you need to do this early in act 2.
@oldkabu
@oldkabu Жыл бұрын
btw if you get Shar's spear after killing Nightsong you get Darkness spell that costs no spell slots
@chizchima3121
@chizchima3121 Жыл бұрын
Shadow Monk + Rogue also does this without the random spells. can just go invis and a teleport. with fog & darkness cast using Ki
@menopally
@menopally Жыл бұрын
You can beeline to the cave for the zhentian quest at the beginning, steal the chest, deliver the mission and get the titanstring bow, then buy 3 strength portions from Aunt Ethel. With 21 strength plus your dexterity modifiers, I believe you will get more damage than with the thunder bow. This is a great build for solo tactician run. Getting the cloak from the dark urge is a good icing on the cake and the phalar aluve as it gives a chance to do a good melee and range mix. An hierling that can cast longstrider will also make it more viable after becoming a thief as more movement equals more striking opportunities. Anything apart from solo tactician with this build might be too easy though
@KatanaKamisama
@KatanaKamisama Жыл бұрын
I was actually going to say... Start as Rogue, so you get 4 skills, THEN Dip Cleric, then back to rogue. You sill get all the armor and weapon profs from Tempest, because they're subclass specific bonus proficiencies.
@Rabijeel
@Rabijeel Жыл бұрын
There is a Downside to this in your Build: Medium and Heavy Armor is nice, but it likits the Bonus from Dex. Medium limits it to +2, so every Dex above 14 is lost. Heavy sets that to 0. No Dex Bonus at all. Every +1 from Dex adds to AC - keep that in mind.
@theweaverguy3103
@theweaverguy3103 Жыл бұрын
8:01 I think I found some misinformation here: Savage attacker does not increase the crit chance - you are mixing two different roll types. Crit chance comes from Attack Rolls - if you roll 20 (or less with proper equipement/champion), you get a crit. Savage attacker influences DAMAGE rolls., its a roll that determines whether your 1d6 weapon should do 1 or 6 points of damage. Savage attacker essentially gives you advantage on DAMAGE roll, enabling you to do more damage, but not crit more often. Also, it only works for MELEE attacks, so its pretty useless for the build which fouses on sniping with a bow
@upsetti6404
@upsetti6404 Жыл бұрын
Came here to say this myself. Utterly useless feat here. All credibility goes out the window with this video after this horrendous misinformation.
@anniedarkheart5224
@anniedarkheart5224 Жыл бұрын
I think FireSpark might intentionally put in misinfo like this to create extra engagement from corrections. Savage Attacker doesn't do what he says it does. A useful comment on Savage Attacker would be "This lets you reroll damage dice for all sources, but not Sneak Attacks, so the more your build uses Sneak Attack damage, the less attractive Savage Attacker is." Savage Attacker is better in BG3 than in Tabletop though. Just not in this build. Rerolling Smite damage and a lot of other damage riders can be strong in appropriate builds.
@GeryonM
@GeryonM Жыл бұрын
He did say that after the acquisition of the cloak you need to keep moving. Bow utility is only themajority of attacks until you get that cloak then you can melee all you want as long as one steps out of the clod to do it with. It may not be immediately useful but the build works for the long game.
@SirAnCat
@SirAnCat Жыл бұрын
I would suggest dual wielder. it could allow you to dual wield more melee weapons with strong passives. Just have to figure out what applies to ranged attacks as well. The weapon effects can be unclear at times. Other than that only sharpshooter and dex+2 are usefull for this kind of build. There is a ring in the game that gives you permanent advantage on attack rolls, which would fit this build perfectly.
@Firespark81
@Firespark81 Жыл бұрын
Crap. That's my bad yes you are right. I'll cut this out ASAP. Thanks for catching that.
@brabe79
@brabe79 Ай бұрын
Time line i need 0:10 Level 1 Cleric 1 Tempest Domain 1:58 Level 2 Rogue 1 2:19 Level 3 Rogue 2 5:47 Level 4 Rogue 3 Thief 6:02 Level 5 Rogue 4 Feat Point Ability +2 Dex (18) 7:16 Level 6 Cleric 7:33 Level 7 Cleric 7:40 Level 8 Cleric Cantrip & Savage Attacker (Feat Point) 8:01 Level 10 Cleric Nothing to do, Level 9 Cleric not in the video 8:13 Level 11 Cleric 8:22 Level 12 Cleric Feat Point Ability +2 Dex (20) 9:02 Item: Eversight Ring 9:40 Item: Cloak of Cuuning Brume
@zelandakhniteblade5436
@zelandakhniteblade5436 Жыл бұрын
Taking 6 levels of sword bard instead of tempest cleric will get you three attacks instead of one plus a weapon style. A level of fighter will get you the archery weapon style. You can get respec out of the final cleric level for Action Surge after getting the cloak, giving fighter 2/sword bard 6/thief rogue 4, which gives you a panic button for bursting down an enemy who can dent your defences. Taking fighter first during this respec also makes it less likely you will drop concentration. Naturally fighter 1/sword bard 6/thief rogue 4/tempest cleric 1 is also just fine. Going this swords bard route also gives you the option of switching to the preferred dual crossbow method, where you use the second Bonus Action for an additional attack. This is a generally good build that will work well for both cheesy and traditional playstyles as required.
@KatanaKamisama
@KatanaKamisama Жыл бұрын
Better equipment: Titan String Longbow from the vendor in the Zentirum Hideout, and then get the Club of Hill Giant Str. from mage tower, it will set your str score to 19, giving you a +4 bonus damage on every arrow.
@kevak1236
@kevak1236 Жыл бұрын
Some optimization. Go rogue first for more skills. Tempest cleric is a subclass so even if you take it at character level 2 you still get martial weapons and heavy armour from the subclass.
@Firespark81
@Firespark81 Жыл бұрын
Good point and you do get level 2 rather fast.
@scottchristofersen2367
@scottchristofersen2367 Жыл бұрын
And that way you can do it with artorian.
@minnesotanose
@minnesotanose 9 ай бұрын
@@Firespark81 and if you kill the commander on the nautaloid the encounter where withers is gets you level.
@ThatSmilingRobot
@ThatSmilingRobot Жыл бұрын
I genuinely like the concept, it's a clever way to combine some otherwise lackluster items. Personally though, I only see it being useful for low levels for the fog cloud cast/strange conduit combo. Once you get the cloak, you don't need to be cleric anymore, you'd be better off using the same cloak/blindness ring combo, getting the ring to get advantage on attacks (and disadvantage on saves but who cares), and making a rogue/bard hand xbow build. Still disengage every turn to make your cloud, but you don't need to use your other bonus to hide because you have advantage anyway, so you get two primary attacks (which bard can turn into 4 attacks) and a bonus shot every round, and you're getting bard utility and skill boosts. Plus if you start with 17 DEX and take the hag bonus, you'll cap DEX with your first ASI, use your second feat for sharpshooter (advantage on all attacks will easily offset the -5), then just to spice it up finish off levels 11 and 12 with two in Fighter for your surge. You're getting a standard 2 attacks, which bard makes into 4 attacks, and a bonus shot. When you surge you're getting 2 more attacks, which bard is still turning into 4 attacks. All at advantage, all with +10 sharpshooter, all while being untouchable. The only thing it really changes it needing to short rest after each combat for maximum output (which many people do anyway AND Bard gives you a 3rd short rest), but to turn yourself into a invincible walking turret of death it's a small trade. And if you didn't want to bother with your inspirations and surge, you wouldn't even need to short rest because 3 attacks per round from the safety of your cloud is still solid regardless. Still, the initial idea is very clever and the item combination is strong, keep up the good work.
@jimminyA5
@jimminyA5 11 ай бұрын
and you'd gain a party face in the process.
@CharliKou
@CharliKou Жыл бұрын
Draconic Ancestory: Bronze also gets Fog Cloud as an innate, so in early game if that's your race you'll get at least one more encounter off before you need the long rest.
@IAteYourSandwich
@IAteYourSandwich Жыл бұрын
That’s a class, not a race... The Dragonborn don’t get a spell, they get a breath.
@GiftsTrix
@GiftsTrix Жыл бұрын
Surely swapping out savage attacker, which would only let you reroll damage on melee attacks which you aren't really doing, and replacing it with sharpshooter is just better. Flat 10 damage each attack is just incredible, and you're attacking with advantage so the -5 to hit penalty is negligible. Also, all of those cleric levels just for spellslots for fog cloud and 1d8 damage a turn seems like a lot of investment for a small return. You can go swords bard after rogue 4 all the way to 12. You still get spell slots, but you also get Blade Flourish. Slashing Flourish on a bow just lets you attack twice for that attack, and can be on the same target. You also get extra attack to go with your two bonus actions to hide. So that's four attacks with advantage and sharpshooter per turn. You only get 2 ASI's this way, but 18 dex and sharpshooter when all your attacks have advantage is still incredibly reliable. You can also start 17 dex and go the hag hair route.
@patrickborja1840
@patrickborja1840 Жыл бұрын
you can also use the clothing at the start of mountain pass to get +2 dex
@oritanix5205
@oritanix5205 Жыл бұрын
Once you get the cloak and ring you no longer need the fog cloud spell, so why not respec into 4 rouge 8 bard?
@GiftsTrix
@GiftsTrix Жыл бұрын
@oritanix5205 it gives you options. If you use one bonus action to disengage to make a cloud you can't hide for both attacks. Keeping fog cloud as a spell let's you hide twice to get advantage or to only hide once and make a disengage cloud if you need to move around the battlefield
@Chonus
@Chonus Жыл бұрын
FYI there’s an amazing shield for this build in gauntlet of shar after you kill all the rats and the guy transforms from a rat. Justiciar shield gives you a poof of smoke and puts you in hide with one bonus action so you can easily sneak attack anywhere anytime with the blind immunity ring.
@JuanzerZ
@JuanzerZ 10 ай бұрын
My version: > Rogue 4 (Arcane Trickster) > Ranger 5 (GloomStalker) > Fighter 3 (Champion) Feats: just sharpshooter Items: CRIT!!!! Also, the eversight ring is the most important thing in the build. I picked Arcne trickster cause this version just needs one Bonus Action per turn and, by going Arcane Trickster, you can learn fog cloud at lvl 3 and obtain a couple of spellslots. Gloom stalker becomes invisible inside the fogcloud and Champion gives crit. Edit: Assasin instead of Arcane Trickster is a good option.
@Ryo39
@Ryo39 Жыл бұрын
savage attacker does not help you get critical hits. it rerolls the DAMAGE dice, not the attack dice, and only works on melee
@TFalconwing
@TFalconwing Жыл бұрын
Clearly this guy does not actually play 5e… or read
@upsetti6404
@upsetti6404 Жыл бұрын
apparently so lmoa, all credibility is out the window @@TFalconwing
@FriedSheep69
@FriedSheep69 Жыл бұрын
Fkin nerds
@Zyklon_B_still_and_know_God
@Zyklon_B_still_and_know_God Жыл бұрын
​@@FriedSheep69I tend to agree with this sentiment but you're watching a video about min maxing a build in a rpg which is inherently nerdy
@Firespark81
@Firespark81 Жыл бұрын
This was my bad and a slip of the tongue. You are right. I will cut that part out ASAP. Thanks for catching it.
@Markiboo
@Markiboo Жыл бұрын
To ge the cloak you need to convince rolan to stay and help, I just got to last light inn and mattis isn't there because I didn't do this. I think its useful to know this
@edwinwang5594
@edwinwang5594 Жыл бұрын
The cloak is op af. I always thought that the second disengage that triggers a fog cloud would make the first one disappear so never bothered trying it. Being able to cover the entire area indefinitely without any spell slot makes the various obscure related gear viable too.
@shasvrefirios1536
@shasvrefirios1536 Жыл бұрын
Dude, no matter if it is BG3, Valheim, etc, you are a game changing genius! And your videos are fun to boot, thanks!
@michaelsandy2869
@michaelsandy2869 Жыл бұрын
For a little more endurance at low levels, you can get the Spell Thief bow from the Druid's grove vendor, and once per short rest get a spell back when you crit with the bow. This could allow you to recover your Fog Cloud spell, allowing you to effectively restore your most important spell each short rest.
@jeromemartel3916
@jeromemartel3916 Жыл бұрын
Why not go arcane trickster as fog cloud is level 1 spell and can be learnt level 3. Also going pure rogue allows to better scale your sneak attack making your 1 attack per turn way better and at level 9 you getting advantage on spells.
@donkeysunited
@donkeysunited Жыл бұрын
Note that in character creation, 10 STR doesn't give more jump. 8 to 11 is the same jump distance. You're better off setting INT to 10 for the various skill checks and dumping STR to 8. Just a minor note.
@Firespark81
@Firespark81 Жыл бұрын
you think you get more int checks than str? Also how do you know it does not give you more jump? You go from a negative bonus to a 0. Also you have more carry weight.
@donkeysunited
@donkeysunited Жыл бұрын
@@Firespark81 Because I respec'd a character to 8, 10 and 12 STR and the 8 and 10 had the same jump distance of 15'. 12 STR is 18'. 14 STR is 22'. The higher strength does help with carry weight and in shove calculations.
@helsharidy123
@helsharidy123 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the science, friend. I can comfortably dump str now
@sotonin
@sotonin Жыл бұрын
@@helsharidy123Why would you? there's a hella lot str checks in the game... I personally wouldn't put any stat less than 10
@KendallGilbert
@KendallGilbert Жыл бұрын
I've liked this for lone wolf runs, but I think Act 1 thru most of Act 2 work better just going straight Gloomstalker Ranger, you miss out on some of the tempest damage, but most of that comes in the reactions, and since you're in the clouds you don't react much anyway... and just the first 3 Ranger levels get you everything you need: fog, dread ambusher hide, heavy armour if you want it, as well as the extra ambusher attack at the start of the fight and some resistance if you want those, you also get access to some useful ritual spells and cantrips. Cleric might add and scale better later on especially with the equipment, but Ranger is so front loaded as a class so makes the early game more efficient IMO
@grimmturd
@grimmturd Жыл бұрын
Larian Studios: Let's make a low-level, under-selected role-play-type spell more appealing for a change. Maybe Fog? Smoke Monster from Lost: My time has come again.
@drakanize
@drakanize Жыл бұрын
For this build recommend getting the spell theif bow from 1st village. Every crit refreshes spell slots
@DavidShaw-dc4re
@DavidShaw-dc4re 11 ай бұрын
Once per short rest.
@Noteworthy_
@Noteworthy_ Жыл бұрын
If you don't know how to rush to the underdark for the rings, I strongly suggest grabbing the Smuggler's Ring for a +2 Stealth +2 Sleight of Hand, it only costs you one charisma point, but it's definitely useful for the early parts and picking pockets
@justatest90
@justatest90 11 ай бұрын
Maybe a moot point but: why 16 wisdom? The only spell you're casting is fog really, right? Dump those stats into charisma to help with dialogue checks?
@rickfernandez4711
@rickfernandez4711 Жыл бұрын
This is just the build I was looking for I wanted to try full astarion rogue and try to keep the character loyal to its origin and that just 1 level of cleric fits what I was looking for , Thank you so much
@beastness501
@beastness501 Жыл бұрын
It’s 8 levels of cleric and 4 of rogue tho?
@BouncingTribbles
@BouncingTribbles Жыл бұрын
The rogue doesn't need to be cheesed. The thief is already one of the most powerful subclasses in the game. They can move FOUR times in one turn. My Astarion is a pure thief and has pulled off some truly outrageous shenanigans. Give him athletic for true traversal, or just run mage slayer and have him run through the whole combat to stand next to their spellcasters (3 moves and disengage, he's getting there). Moving out of cover for a cheeky ranged sneak attack and immediately making 2 full moves and hiding again is really good too, and feels very roguish
@henrymonroy9533
@henrymonroy9533 Жыл бұрын
TYVM for this build. It reminds me, a lot, of an assassin build I had in Neverwinter Nights. I would strike from invisibility, then instantly return invisible. Rinse, repeat.
@juliofedericotripel4586
@juliofedericotripel4586 Жыл бұрын
You could do this with ranger stead of cleric and get the extra attack, you can pick fog at ranger 2
@christopherzaf5768
@christopherzaf5768 8 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for that spoiler alert at the end of the video. I'll finish the game before coming back on that build. It looks OP indeed
@horstdaniels4303
@horstdaniels4303 Жыл бұрын
Depending on how far along you are in the grove storyline, going to the monastery can disrupt the story. Certain quests can be closed when you return. Best save before going there.
@michaelrunningdeer8778
@michaelrunningdeer8778 Жыл бұрын
Nice build but lvl4 you should take sharpshooter it’s just better since your shooting with advantage and I would use hand Xbox to stack all the extra damage along with sharpshooter and u will still have 1 bonus action to hide again
@minnesotanose
@minnesotanose 9 ай бұрын
im currently doing this build on honour mode because survivability is important. of course i would just do the hag hair to get 18 dex then the graceful cloth bumps dex to 20. then your feats can be whatever else you want. sharpshooter comes to mind. maybe alert. also i went with a gnome because advantage on stealth seems important
@Toothbresh
@Toothbresh 10 ай бұрын
Very important, you have to SAVE the tieflings in act one to have access to that merchant at the last light inn!
@Nex07
@Nex07 9 ай бұрын
I saved them and few of them are in last light inn but i can’t find this mechant. Someone has idea why?
@Toothbresh
@Toothbresh 9 ай бұрын
@@Nex07 Convincing Roland to stay and help defend will keep them alive
@Lowlight23
@Lowlight23 Жыл бұрын
Nice!! Good to see some fun low level builds. 😁👍
@slkrsmobile
@slkrsmobile Жыл бұрын
your excitement is contagious, but it's extra amazing at 1.25 speed lol. excellent video and build. thanks.
@paulowen4328
@paulowen4328 Жыл бұрын
Theren is another build where dual wielding one hand cross bows with multiple attacks in a round would benefit from this tactic. I'm starting a new game because I missed everything in act one. Will try a hybrid variation of this with dual wield xbows. Been a long time since a game was so much fun that I actually wanted a replay.
@adhochero6619
@adhochero6619 Жыл бұрын
I currently doing a no companion tactical run with a tempest cleric which comes together at lvl 5. might through three rouge levels in there just to give me a variety of play styles instead of just lightning god, also foggy archer. sounds good.
@hayden7504
@hayden7504 10 ай бұрын
Straight from the wiki: Savage Attacker - "This feat does not apply to damage from Sneak Attacks."
@Boundinplastic
@Boundinplastic 4 ай бұрын
Fog cloud because fog cloud, then you fog cloud then through the fog cloud. Then you fog cloud and thats it.
@henriknielsen2517
@henriknielsen2517 4 күн бұрын
Fog cloud
@kahinaloren
@kahinaloren Жыл бұрын
I saw your fog cloud video, and soloed most act3 bosses with a rogue and the ring of immune to blindness. Doing a second playthrough now and I am level 3. Might try this for Astarion :)
@thegoodthieves
@thegoodthieves Жыл бұрын
Some great advice even if you don't build this. Totally under rated fog cloud myself, will be using this tactic from now on
@newlife7195
@newlife7195 Жыл бұрын
There is a helmet in game, which gives u invisibility after u kill enemy, so u can do same thing without this build and long rest.
@AnthonyMerryman
@AnthonyMerryman 10 ай бұрын
You can be detected however, and the way fog cloud works it obscures you and breaks the AI so you can't be seen or detected. At least, as I understand it.
@CognitiveMeanderings
@CognitiveMeanderings Жыл бұрын
They fixed Fog Cloud. Doesn't work like this any more. Shame!
@clefsan
@clefsan Жыл бұрын
Does all of it no longer work (particularly AI doing nothing on their turn when you are in the cloud) or only the part he explained at the end about creating connected clouds?
@Trophymon-eu8uy
@Trophymon-eu8uy Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@Sebanisu
@Sebanisu Жыл бұрын
Ah I've seen an item that gives you a cast of flog cloud and items that give darkness. There is a ring that prevents blindness too. I solo'ed a bunch of enemies while in a flog cloud blinding them and being immune to blind. Cleric giving you a couple flog cloud charges is nice.
@Superdonko
@Superdonko 11 ай бұрын
If you get the cloak of cunning brume, and go thief, you get a free mini fog cloud with your second bonus action every turn.
@fuifax4116
@fuifax4116 11 ай бұрын
did we watch the same vid? why the need to state the obvious lol
@BananaWizard2
@BananaWizard2 11 ай бұрын
Is it just me or would sharpshooter be busted for this build?
@mrfamousamos9819
@mrfamousamos9819 10 ай бұрын
It should be, higher percentage with being hidden plus sneak.
@prateekagarwal1
@prateekagarwal1 9 ай бұрын
Eversight ring Cloak of cunning brume
@GreypegasusPlays
@GreypegasusPlays 5 ай бұрын
Its sad how almost all rogue builds are Dualclassing since after level 4/5 rogue is useless ;-;
@horrido666
@horrido666 10 ай бұрын
Use Duegard as race. They get infinite invis cast out of combat.
@polo6669
@polo6669 Жыл бұрын
Couldn't you play as an Elf for longbow and make use of the spellthief so you can just fill up level 1 spell slots on crits.
@Firespark81
@Firespark81 Жыл бұрын
Longbow is a martial weapons which you will have proficiency in with this build no matter your race. So yes and it is a good option if you do not get the one I recommend.
@joeldodd6526
@joeldodd6526 Жыл бұрын
Thank you! That is a great idea! as much as I was looking forward to JoltShooter Boots combo which makes every hit do +1D8 lightning.
@masonbowles-eacott2907
@masonbowles-eacott2907 Жыл бұрын
A race consideration may be blue or bronze dragonborn for their lightning breath.
@baphnie
@baphnie Жыл бұрын
Fog cloud for president
@bungerimpact
@bungerimpact Жыл бұрын
I was hoping for a list of armour and equipment like the cleric/sorcerer healer build has because I'm trying to do honour mode and my autism has blocked off understanding multiclassing (hence why I've been copying builds, I just want that golden dice) lol
@drakanize
@drakanize Жыл бұрын
Get the spell thief bow 1st town and let's you refill your spell slots with crits
@lunar2328
@lunar2328 Жыл бұрын
Sure... I guess... But if you wanna ACTUALLY be broken just go dark urge for the cloak, and then go fighter (champ or battle), get extra attack, and the rest into rogue (assassin). Take archery fighting style and basically be the Skyrim stealth archer meme. Go invis on kill, always sneak attacking, getting actions back after you open from stealth, action surge, extra attack, blah blah blah. Or just a rogue paladin. Cause paladin is just broken by itself. Cause smite.
@Cheerwine091
@Cheerwine091 Жыл бұрын
Gloomstalker 5. Assassin 5. Fighter 2 for action surge. Build on Astarion, play as dark urge for cloak. After astarion’s quest (if you let him do the ritual) he gets an additional d10 on every hit.
@lunar2328
@lunar2328 Жыл бұрын
@@Cheerwine091 why gloomstalker 5? You dont get and extra extra attack
@Cheerwine091
@Cheerwine091 Жыл бұрын
@@lunar2328 Gloomstalker provides the only extra attack in this build, since rogue doesn’t get it and fighter is left at 2. Gloomstalker is good because that opening extra shot with +d8 is very potent for taking out early threats in combat., +3 to initiative is basically a free alert feat, and the spells you get can be fairly useful. Plus, early on, before you take fighter for your last 2 levels, Ranger provides heavy armor proficiency (ranger knight). Resistance to fire or poison is also pretty handy to have for certain encounters. With this build on Astarion, I took out the anti-shadowheart in the final fight on turn 1 with an attack to spare. (Forgot to mention: Caustic Ring + Risky Ring for extra damage and almost always hitting)
@lunar2328
@lunar2328 Жыл бұрын
@@Cheerwine091 ohhhhh I read that at fighter 5. My b.
@pflernak
@pflernak Жыл бұрын
Berserker-Thief with Great Weapon Mastery should work well too. Constant Sneak Attacks because you have Reckless Attack and every time you kill something you can Attack with a Bonus Action. When you dont one-hit something use Frenzied Strike to finish the job - youre rolling 2 dice anyway.
@thetwilightharvest6320
@thetwilightharvest6320 Жыл бұрын
I was thinking about re-specing Astarion to this but I would want to add the boots that also give you lightning charges during combat and combine that with the jolt bow letting you add that extra lightning damage more often. he can wear medium armor because of the level one cleric But does he have any disadvantages to his stealth and dexterity bonus to his armor class if he's only wearing medium boots but the rest of the set would be light armor?
@zackw4941
@zackw4941 Жыл бұрын
I would suggest going with dual hand crossbows, actually. Especially with those rings adding damage to all attacks, the extra attacks will stack nicely. I do realize they seem to be kind of overlooked. I only found a nice one toward the end of act 2. Maybe I missed something? None the less, I've been using two +1 bows with Astarion for most of my game and he puts out pretty crazy damage at range or in melee, dual wielding in either case.
@blshouse
@blshouse Жыл бұрын
If you don't hide after attacking on your turn, the enemies will attack you in the fog cloud with ranged weapons and spells. Dual wielding hand crossbows is not going to work well with the tactic espoused in this video.
@Firespark81
@Firespark81 Жыл бұрын
This would work for a while but the completed version of the build needs both bonus actions.
@zackw4941
@zackw4941 Жыл бұрын
@@Firespark81 Oh. It seemed like you only need the one bonus action to go into stealth? You can still make two attacks instead of one with two hand crossbows and just not use the 3rd off-hand attack?
@Firespark81
@Firespark81 Жыл бұрын
Watch the full video m8 lol you'll understand.
@zackw4941
@zackw4941 Жыл бұрын
@@Firespark81 I did. You recommended a specific bow near the end of the game, but that's near the end of the game. And you need more actions for darkness arrow or whatever, if you run passed your 10 turns of fog cloud. But outside of that, I don't see why dual wielding would be the weaker choice in most situations for most of the game...
@Toothbresh
@Toothbresh 10 ай бұрын
Also, sharpshooter over savage attacker!
@pflernak
@pflernak Жыл бұрын
I feel like more levels of Thief would be preferable for the higher Sneak Attack damage.
@viktor821
@viktor821 Жыл бұрын
Take a shot everytime he says fog cloud 💀
@Firespark81
@Firespark81 Жыл бұрын
Do it then leave a comment if you are still able.
@willdrivesu7914
@willdrivesu7914 Жыл бұрын
I did a similar thing on a rogue i was playing, solo durge...instead of cleric i went warlock, for darkness and demon sight. This choice was inspired by an erncounter in the game. I came across the sperctator, and one of his minions cast darkness on me, so i just used it to pop in and out of to kill the boss, xD
@Competitiveforlolz
@Competitiveforlolz Жыл бұрын
I would have added that you can upcast fog cloud for a LARGE area.
@ronxygar699
@ronxygar699 Жыл бұрын
Being in the fog does it count as obscured? If it is, then the dark justiciar sets will be awesome.
@kahinaloren
@kahinaloren Жыл бұрын
Heavily obscured, and yes. This build is utterly broken. I soloed most bosses in act 3 using this. Might be worth giving everyone in the party two levels of rogue for that bonus hiding if you don't want to play solo... I did it with Gale, so had two chars with immune to blindness and bonus action hide. Trivializes most of the game though, because it is truly broken...It works fine even without those items, as you can just step outside the cloud, attack, then step back inside and hide. That loses the obscured bonus, but the enemy AI stays lost.
@ronxygar699
@ronxygar699 Жыл бұрын
@@kahinaloren thanks! will experiment on this!
@Dalinoth70
@Dalinoth70 Жыл бұрын
Using an archery bow build without sharpshooter is absolutely pointless. Also any archery build should incorporate at least 1 level of fighter to get the +2 archery fighting style.
@neblem8119
@neblem8119 Жыл бұрын
U should drop the caustic ring…1-4 is better then +2…%75 of the time u deal the same or more damage
@ThatSmilingRobot
@ThatSmilingRobot Жыл бұрын
He drops the strange conduit because he starts using fog clouds from the cloak, not ones he's concentrating on so the strange conduit stops being active anyway.
@brabe79
@brabe79 Ай бұрын
Is there any other class than the Cleric Tempest Domain who also makes damage at a certain level? I didnt took the joltshooter. I thought a Wyll with the lightning staff would be better with the following items Lightning Combo Set Spellsparkler (Q: Duke) The Real Sparky Sparkswall (Chest) The Lifebringer (T: Blurg) The Protecty Sparkswall (Chest) The Sparkle Hands The Watersparkers (Minthara) Neck. of Elemental Augmentation (Chest) The Sparkswall (Chest) Ring of Elemental Infusion (Umra'a'ac) So i think i broke this character a little? 2nd Question: Why doesnt Devil Sight work against Fog Cloud? Wyll gets blinded in my Fog Cloud.
@salikoko8324
@salikoko8324 9 ай бұрын
Quick observation, how does this build work on the Fire elemental or the Forge Boss?
@jmiles86
@jmiles86 11 ай бұрын
Rogue/Ranger can do this way better.
@scottman_plays_youtube
@scottman_plays_youtube 9 ай бұрын
Fog Cloud!
@garyburke6156
@garyburke6156 Жыл бұрын
i played the whole game through WITH A ROGUE and didn't know fog clouds were so OP .. ah well i should try it again
@Maskeuc
@Maskeuc Жыл бұрын
When you play on low difficulties you do not force yourself to look for alternatives to survive in battles, you look for what is possible when you are new to playing tactics to be able to survive and discover these tricks
@oldgamercelltrouphyhunter
@oldgamercelltrouphyhunter 2 ай бұрын
Ok so this to me still broken if You do it right I havent beat the game yet not even got to act 2 to cause I told my self im beat on honour mode welp this build got me the to act 2 solo. Nice build
@TheXyxy2
@TheXyxy2 7 ай бұрын
If we can create fog cloud passively with the cloak, what's the point in being a priest? why not going full rogue for more sneak attack damage?
@dalniente2020
@dalniente2020 7 ай бұрын
You don’t get it till act 2
@Qeroo
@Qeroo 4 ай бұрын
U still need prof In armor and weapon from tempest priest
@TheXyxy2
@TheXyxy2 4 ай бұрын
@@Qeroo I already beat the game long ago as Gloomstalker / Thief, bow buils with the cloak. This is OP, I solo all fights that are not limited by time.
@cmpoliver3499
@cmpoliver3499 Жыл бұрын
Totally great and my guess is that this OP build in a Party will totally change the run-through if the game from the 3rd level on. I'm not sure but will all the boss fights be as easy and I wonder if with this build will it be possible to get every one of the bonus treasures. I'm hoping to do a run where no plus item is not collected and none in the party ever get killed.
@Firespark81
@Firespark81 Жыл бұрын
What do you mean bonus treasures?
@joeldodd6526
@joeldodd6526 Жыл бұрын
Hi @FireSpark81. Love this concept. Reminds me of the Deep Purple track "Stormbringer". I was wondering though, how important is the lightning/thunder effects, melee knockback when you can just shoot, and if you can just shoot, and don't need the knockback, why not go 11 levels of rogue to maximise sneak attack dice? In fact if you have another means of getting access to the gear you need, once you have the two equipment combo, you could be pure Rogue Thief and have 4 feats. I also wondered why savage attacker and not sharpshooter. Mathematically sharpshooter is well worth it when you have advantage on every attack. And early on that helps kill everything before the fog cloud runs out.
@michaeltreu4152
@michaeltreu4152 Жыл бұрын
So really you can just ignore everything except get fog cloud.
@zarbonthedestroyer7232
@zarbonthedestroyer7232 Жыл бұрын
that's what i took from the video hahaha. video summary: "Be a rogue that can cast fog cloud"
@stopthink7202
@stopthink7202 Жыл бұрын
The trick for getting the ring doesn't seem to work. The moment I even move the chest the hand gets attacked and killed. I think I am only moving it not throwing it. I simply drag the chest with the mouse pointer a short distance. Am I doing this wrong?
@NilasSurionX
@NilasSurionX Жыл бұрын
This isn't being OP this is cheesing the system so definitely broken
@vooligan9499
@vooligan9499 11 ай бұрын
D&D is literally about figuring out how to best cheese the system to beat the DM. Larian are our DM's and they gave us the tools to cheese the game for that very purpose. 🙂 Though I agree it removes some of the fun of playing under pressure and needing to make on the fly decisions.
@Ouzzel
@Ouzzel Жыл бұрын
If it mostly is range why savage attacker?
@АлександрКайман-ф9щ
@АлександрКайман-ф9щ Жыл бұрын
Why he picked ASI - that's the question. You need marksman for this build. An this is actually not a build, just exploiting some cheesy mechanic. And low damage for this.
@georgeaynilian7865
@georgeaynilian7865 Жыл бұрын
I joined on my friends campaign and wanted to do this build because I had to catch up with the gear, but they picked a different weapon instead of the sporkshooter, is there a way to substitute the bow?
@unholyrevenger72
@unholyrevenger72 Жыл бұрын
This is what happens when you omit Dispel from the spell table.
@willdrivesu7914
@willdrivesu7914 Жыл бұрын
Lol, I looked at the spell table trying to find this, because I was getting annoyed by all of the darkness and Hadar aoes later in the game....
@clintonchico9547
@clintonchico9547 Жыл бұрын
Can't you just do that as a trickster rogue?
@CastIronEric
@CastIronEric 9 ай бұрын
I heard they nerfed fog cloud
@Modhunter42
@Modhunter42 Жыл бұрын
Add 2 levels of Fighter and then you Can attack twice.... 😄 But no Divine strike: Thunder, so use something else for that.
@VahdaMage
@VahdaMage Жыл бұрын
How do I choose which class to level once I add rouge class
@SilentGe42
@SilentGe42 Жыл бұрын
Yea🎉. Not level 12 builds, awesome!
@Firespark81
@Firespark81 Жыл бұрын
I mean to be fair this build is broken at lvl 3 but you are also an op death god at lvl 12 lol
@willofone2120
@willofone2120 Жыл бұрын
Quick question, what's giving you that extra bonus action?
@Firespark81
@Firespark81 Жыл бұрын
3 levels in rogue picking thief as a subclass
@willofone2120
@willofone2120 Жыл бұрын
@@Firespark81 thanks for the Intel. Going thief now makes a lot more sense because the other two options were significantly better in their descriptions.
@navreel3947
@navreel3947 2 ай бұрын
What’s the outfit at 2:39?
@Cirearno
@Cirearno Жыл бұрын
As noted in the pin I did this with a warlock and with a stealthy caster in EA and it got so boring so fast I stopped. OP yes, boring 100%. At least for me.
@Firespark81
@Firespark81 Жыл бұрын
Oh I 100% agree. The build is so broken it feels like cheating.
@stopthink7202
@stopthink7202 Жыл бұрын
This build looks epic. I have to give this one a try. Thanks for the spoiler alert at the end. (I did stop watching as I'm still new to the game.) If I were to respec shadow heart into this build and make sure she still worships shar, would it mess up her story line at all?
@garyburke6156
@garyburke6156 Жыл бұрын
i dont think a story characters class affects their RP or storyline at all, just how they fight and make skill checks. you could make Gale a barbarian if you wanted. he would still go through the same story beats.
@AnthonyMerryman
@AnthonyMerryman 10 ай бұрын
Is there really any reason not to do the cresh?
@maekoro1
@maekoro1 10 ай бұрын
Good loot and quest rewards. If its your first play through there is also good story progression segments.
@AnthonyMerryman
@AnthonyMerryman 10 ай бұрын
@@maekoro1 I'm romancing Baezel so we can raise our gith child together so it's a must for me.
@horrido666
@horrido666 10 ай бұрын
Wasted time? I always do it, but I hit level 12 way before end game.
@paulclarke9694
@paulclarke9694 Жыл бұрын
Fogcloud does not cause blindness it obsures vision.
@BradenSmith-mz1bg
@BradenSmith-mz1bg Жыл бұрын
Doesn't work for me
@torjones1701
@torjones1701 Жыл бұрын
Don't any of the "blindfighting"/tremorsense abilities exist in game?
@azurelion6722
@azurelion6722 Жыл бұрын
Only Devilsight. Characters can Melee attack people within the clouds, albeit at disadvantage if their target has vision inside the cloud. But if an npc starts outside the cloud, they won't enter the cloud.
@YTpajamas
@YTpajamas Жыл бұрын
That is a really exciting way of playing *yawn* What a sense of achievement right there.
@rwulf
@rwulf Жыл бұрын
I mean - the video is very interesting from a theorycrafting point of view, seeing what exactly is possible in the game and how the mechanics work. But Jesus. Actually playing this way? It looks so boring. And it's obviously an exploit. May as well just download a mod to turn off your character taking damage.
@badlynice4692
@badlynice4692 Жыл бұрын
It's not meant to be exciting it's meant to be broken.
@sorenjensen3863
@sorenjensen3863 Жыл бұрын
What's the point of this comment? The video is about a BROKEN build, what broken build involves exciting game play?
@morwaleath4924
@morwaleath4924 Жыл бұрын
does this still work?
@DallasIsRokkoS
@DallasIsRokkoS Жыл бұрын
Can you sneak attack with spells?
@owencaulfield8310
@owencaulfield8310 Жыл бұрын
Yes, since Patch 1, but only with spells that require an attack roll, such as Scorching Ray. Given that Sneak Attack also requires Rogue levels to deal meaningful damage, it really only benefits Arcane Tricksters.
@Rabijeel
@Rabijeel Жыл бұрын
​@@owencaulfield8310 Nope, doesnt. There are multiple Builds I just can think of benefitting on that greatly. One with Warlock, one with Barbarian combined (yes, non-Rage-Casting-Spell-Barbarian; the "Nerd-Rager" who works alike the Throwing Build with produce Flame), four different Builds with Cleric, one or Two with Wizzard (Sneaky crit Fireballs with Divy Wizz) and a lot more relying on Items with Spells on it to work that Way, Druids goin nuts benefitting from Tanky Transformations along Spellsnipes getting beefed up by Sneak Attack Damage (an Ally beside the Target allows to use it aka summoned Creatuers) and such.
@flyfishizationjones4940
@flyfishizationjones4940 11 ай бұрын
Cool glitch, but kind of no fun. I guess I’m more of a purist, but that’s the beauty of this game: Play however you want! I hope they never patch it for that reason.
@MatthewChowns
@MatthewChowns Жыл бұрын
Is it really a Rogue build if you have twice as many Cleric levels as Rogue levels?
@Firespark81
@Firespark81 Жыл бұрын
A build is more than the classes you choose. If you are playing as a rogue then yea its a rogue build it doesn't matter what classes you spec into. Now, could you play this build as a cleric all supporty and such. Sure. But that is not how it is designed and would not be the optimal use of the build. This build excels at being a stealth rogue.
@jasoncorley595
@jasoncorley595 10 ай бұрын
why did you use this person instead of like astarrion in place
@tzkro
@tzkro 9 ай бұрын
i just use full rogue,the additional bonus is good enough,tactician solo
@smokeytokegaming3347
@smokeytokegaming3347 Жыл бұрын
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