The Mystery Of The UNBREAKABLE World Record

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[@Stierlitz]

You solved the mystery at 0:18 already: "Competing for East Germany during the 1980's". They were all juiced out of their minds.

[@FarbenSeher]

Yeah, just like everybody else...

[@Stierlitz]

@@FarbenSeher Well, yes and no. The Eastern Bloc had offical state-sponsored programs for this shit.

[@derekrushe]

Til Linderman, the lead singer of Rammstein was a competitive swimmer in his youth and he detailed how the cocktails on drugs he was given fucked up his system for a long time.

[@HTHAMMACK1]

@@FarbenSeher No, not even close.

[@derekrushe]

​@Stierlitz exactly. While there is no doubt that western athletes were on the roids, they did them individually, they didn't have the weight of a countries medical and security apparatus to ensure they got the cutting edge drugs and the best way to avoid getting caught

[@jonassoderberg7394]

As natural as Ronnie Coleman

[@tago69mago671]

Out of the top 10 fastest 400m times ever she holds 5! The soviet woman in 2nd in this race also ran the 9th fastest time ever in this same race. Only 3 of the top 10 times ever were ran outside the 1980's. All Eastern block countries were taking performance enhancing drugs at the time as well as some U.S. athletes. Every womens world record from the 100m to the 800m (not including hurdle races) was set in the 80's.

[@NONO-hz4vo]

This is a bit like weightlifting. Most records were set in the 80's by eastern bloc countries. They have re-arranged the weight classes to nullify these but outside of a few exceptions almost all the best lifts were done during this era. Lifters like Lasha who were also caught using PED's aren't able to use the same types of drugs and for the duration that those athletes were. Kind of impressive he was able to match those all time lifts on lesser PED use I guess.

[@magnushallin3640]

What do you really "know"? Western state propaganda? Come on - they are always lying

[@john-nx4xn]

Steroids give ur head a shake 💪

[@phoebus]

Yes but were they all women?

[@bronzevillecomics2581]

As were the world records in long jump, high jump, shot put, discus, 4x400, and heptathlon. Since then the javelin has been changed and hammer, pole vault, and triple jump were not events at worlds or Olympics.

[@vondenballs]

Germans simply had the better chemists. Everybody was taking something, USA included.

[@phoebus]

Yes but they will tell you that in East Germany they stressed athletics more than other countries and that's why they were so good, same thing that Jamaica says now.

[@jimfrazier8611]

Not to mention that some of the most athletic East German women started life as East German men.

[@efisgpr]

But the U.S. was dominating from 1896-1960....Before PED's

[@vincentvangogh8092]

santa monica track club was bad

[@joekendras]

Well not better than Flo Jo's chemists atleast.

[@erikrichardgregory]

Marita wasn’t on drugs; she was on cutting-edge drugs

[@thebigpicture2032]

Just like today.

[@erikrichardgregory]

@@thebigpicture2032 oh yes…greatest dopers of all time are in contemporary times :)

[@michaeledwards2251]

Obsolete by today's standards.

[@Teucer9]

@@thebigpicture2032 Today's drugs don't seem as good

[@thebigpicture2032]

@@Teucer9 true, queludes were da bomb!

[@mansellindustries273]

I have never had to stop watching one of your videos before but I had to this time after three minutes… East German original documents that became available after the fall of the iron curtain show Koch used the anabolic steroid Oral-Turinabol (4-Chlorodehydromethyltestosterone) from 1981 to 1984 with dosages ranging from 530 to 1460 mg/year… this is where you should start, and if you think these documents are correct, this is where you end…

[@hakuakua3020]

that would make for a boring ass video

[@stevewells8845]

Yep, they were all at it. Renate Stecher and Barbel Wochtl were the other two of the triumvirate. East Germany dominated women's athletics. If you didn't know that they were busted years ago the fact that German women are now useless in world terms tells you all you need to know. I don't understand why these "records" are allowed to stand.

[@tompw3141]

He covers that

[@zk4761]

There are still some issues. 1) It looks like she didn't suffer any of the major side effects. 2) Turinabol is a milder steroid than Jarmila, who looked like a man. Yet she was still faster 3) Many users were given it and told they were vitamin. If she were one of them, she would not know. 4) Torinabol stays in your system longer along with being milder. Does it give much more of an advantage than HGH? Doubt it. 5) Being the fastest of a bunch of drug takers is still impressive. Similar to Ben Johnson and Mark McGwire. 6) By now someone should've beat this record with the advancement in track technology, nutrition, equipment, foot wear, training, etc. Ben Johnson mark's was supposed to be untouchable but Bolt, Blake and Gay matched or better it. Powell got close. The fact nobody is close now puts her in the same athletic freak category as FloJo except she did it for so many years.

[@nadavegan]

@@zk4761 "5) Being the fastest of a bunch of drug takers is still impressive. Similar to Ben Johnson and Mark McGwire." Nope

[@ab9957]

Maybe she was accelerating at the end. Secretariat, who won the triple crown in 1973 was actually running faster the last quarter mile of the Kentucky Derby than the first quarter.

[@ironcladranchandforge7292]

Well, Secretariat was a freak of nature. His heart was twice as large as other race horses. His lungs were larger too. He could pump way more blood and oxygen as other horses. The 1973 Belmont Stakes (which I watched live on TV) was the greatest sporting even in history, in my opinion. If you watch it on KZbin, take note of what happens in the back stretch. He's neck and neck with Sham, then something amazing happens. Secretariat suddenly puts himself in a totally different gear, his legs start stretching out, he starts pulling effortlessly away from Sham. He and Sham were already WAY ahead of the other horses by this time, and yet Secretariat was just warming up. He was, and is the greatest athlete to ever live!!

[@magicmulder]

She wasn’t, she clearly self-destructed on the final 50 meters. She was basically running a 300 meter race and winged the rest.

[@artofnoly9754]

As they used to say back in the 80's ..."If you're not on it, you're not in it." She, Koch, may not have known that she was being doped, but many GDR athletes admitted that after taking the "Pills" they were ordered to take, their performances increased dramatically. The women's voices deepened. Koch's autopsy will eventually reveal all.

[@zottirgen]

lol

[@michaeledwards2251]

Unless there is a medical reason for an autopsy, such as sudden unexpected death, which applied in the case of Flo Jo, autopsy will only be made if the relatives request it.

[@fungus_am0nguz644]

Oh she mos def knew. I mean u cant give a profesional runner "vitamins" and all her records are getting better and then breaking wr and be like "hmmm i think those pills are helping out a bit" she knew what was up, same as everyone else that competed back then ......she was the best of that time though

[@michaeledwards2251]

@@fungus_am0nguz644 Koch and Jamila wrote letters, I learned this from one of the other comments on this page, in which they referred to their consumption of PEDs. The Stasi records by themselves would not be conclusive proof as a number of Eastern German athletes had adverse reactions and didn't take their prescribed medications. The letters show they knew and consumed.

[@nikolaivista920]

Oh, Koch knew it! There is a letter Koch wrote about Wockel receiving higher doses of steroids than Koch!

[@estelja]

Any Eastern Bloc record from the 80's should be suspect.

[@Menstral]

5:09 she was onto something special. All this consistency and then wham, maybe she was ON something special. Armpit hair....tasty

[@CaseyKCRichards]

Well of course as they are all using Drugs.

[@petewest3122]

Every record, since the 80's, from any nation should be suspect. PEDs are endemic, the difference between then and now is better understanding of how to avoid testing positive.

[@welshtoro3256]

Not just suspect any more. We have the actual GDR data which identifies all of the athletes and what junk they were forced to take. They were all forcibly doped without any consideration to their health. Tokens for the glorification of the regime.

[@darganx]

As should any U.S. WR held from the 80s-90s.. ask David Jenkins

[@rajivmurkejee7498]

Her time was as legitimate as Flo Jo's times.

[@pedropelaez]

Both are doping cheats

[@lunarsabbatical7906]

@@pedropelaez yup

[@Appaddict01]

@@pedropelaezFlo Jo still had perfect form. She has the most technically perfect form ever.

[@dwaynemcallister7231]

Speculation@@pedropelaez

[@mikepalmer2219]

@@pedropelaezI bet you most all of them are doing the same thing. I doubt any of the, are completely clean.

[@roboi2241]

If Koch hadn't broken it then we'd still be talking about the 47.99 of Kratochvilova as the Czech was an embodiment of the caricature image of a soviet era athlete, she was built like Ben Johnson.

[@joostprins3381]

And her 42 year old indoor record got broken this year by Bol.

[@jamezkpal2361]

She was also the front man for the Who.

[@roboi2241]

@@jamezkpal2361 🤣

[@orlandoduran9850]

It is one of the few races in which MARITA KOCH. He didn't put his head into the finish line. If he had done so, he would have dropped the 48

[@phoebus]

She??

[@lesnuitssanskimwilde7986]

The reason the record still stands out is because at that time it was still quite easy to use massive doses of steroids without getting caught. Contrary to what many people may think there's no modern drug that comes close for building strength and explosive power (or muscle mass).

[@tjs114]

Koch was dosing on Oral Turinabol (aka CDMT) from 1981 to 1984. Berendonk & Franke saved documents written by the East German drug research programme and she listed by name in those documents listing her dosing from 530 to 1460 mg per year under State Plan Topic 14.25. She can say she didn't take it, but she would be hard pressed to not admit that she received 'vitamins' under her training program. The thing about CDMT is it is designed as a tablet.

[@TheJhtlag]

wow, smoking gun there. I didn't read it but it's being saved by NIH so not just some dubious magazine article somewhere.

[@miltkarr5109]

That would put her at the equivalent of an 18-25 year old man. I'm most impressed by the dose. High but not crazy high where health problems or over masculinization would emerge. Very conservative edge.

[@666dr]

​​​@@miltkarr5109you contradicted yourself...yes very conservative edge at best. Oral turinabol was the weak version of dbol...even if she was on the higher end as documented it was a low hit.. it didn't make her equivalent to an 18 to 25 male...The 1460mg for the yr possibly cycled into months but still low

[@diemassnahme7907]

Your mother uses oral steroids 😂

[@glynndonahue1159]

Look at her prominant adam’s apple(thyroid cartilege) she was using anabolic steroids since she was about 18. 🙄

[@jollymolly2521]

I remember seeing Koch and Kratochvilova run in the '80s. The entire Soviet bloc (Russian, East Germany, Czechoslovakia, Hungary, etc.) was hopped up on steroids and "blood packing." It wasn't even that much of a secret. it was all sports, not just track & field. There were no tests that could detect all of the different steroids then so their federations just dared people to prove it. Occasionally someone would get caught in the urine testing, but not enough of them. Of course Koch is going to deny she was doping. That's like Kratochvilova saying she was just "a big country farm girl" and came by her muscle mass naturally. It was the stance of the Soviet Union that if they couldn't win the cold war - they'd prove their superiority with athletics. You know...since that worked out so well for Hitler in 1936..

[@user-wy8sj3ed3f]

А американцы питались только святым духом? О , Ха- Ха- ха. Просто тогда влияние СССР и США было равным в международных структурах. Льюис в 1988 попадался трижды, ему все сошло с рук. , Гатлин попадался дважды, все сошло с рук. Бегун на 400м Петтигрю признался что принимал допинг и эстафетная команда США лишилась великого рекорда 4 по 400м 254.20 1998( против чего я категорически против) и нескольких титулов чемпионов мира( я тоже против этого) Все были в равных условиях. Но социалистическая система в СССР и ГДР позволяла получить доступ к спорту широким слоям населения и система отбора талантов была лучше чем в США и странах Запада. Кстати в 1984 году американцы вывели из под проверок на допинг 80 проб своих спортсменов и это общеизвестный факт. Да и сам допинг появился в США. Так что не надо ля- ля

[@alexmichl3137]

Its the same today, but they just use different stuff. Acting like pro athletes are clean today is just dumb. Anyone who understand even in slightest human performance and can read studies and look at the testing records must understand that everyone in pro sports dope today.

[@cavaleer]

Thank you for beating me to this massive fraud that for some reason no one likes to address. All we hear about is FloJo "suspicions" but these Soviet Bloc broads were literally running as pros and doing everything possible to get as fast as possible.

[@thebigpicture2032]

It’s not like they aren’t doping today and with potentially more potent drugs. It was a tremendous run that should stand.

[@NonFlyiingDutchman]

There was also no out of competition testing and the eastern block tested their athletes before any competition. Anyone testing positive withdrew due to a mystery injury.

[@walterbsprinks]

This is a well presented history of the time and as a Track Aficionado from the 60’s through the 2020’s. I saw Ludmilla at an International meet in Eugene Oregon’s and it was obvious steroids that made her so strong. I ran in the 4 minute Miler era and as a distance runner in that era. Ludmilla admitted it and died young. So looking at Koch and this time I believe it was the perfect combination of Athletic performance build up and an East German mercedes class drug program which took her below 48. Read on yes thought I remembered that East German story about their evidence of CMBT

[@mecpeec9478]

Please be more clear - what exactly did Lyudmila admit and die young, is it that you saw her in Oregon, or that you were a distance runner?

[@michaeledwards2251]

Don't forget the track and altitude : the fact the best time Koch achieved the year before and after, was the same, gives away the importance of having an ideal track, when new, for a fast time.

[@taxicamel]

The fact that she was doping has been proven. There are East German records that detail the doping. 7:35 ....FINALLY .....gets to "performance enhancing drugs". "Overwhelming evidence which suggests a governmental state sponsored building program. And over the years, many athletes have actually come forward, admitting it's doping." So the East German scientists figure out how to hide the many drugs used ...making them undetectable at that time. These training records have been published showing this activity .....there should be no "statute of limitations" to stripping ALL records ......particularly when there was INTENT ......which very clearly there was. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marita_Koch "The documents list the dosage and timetables for the administration of anabolic steroids to many athletes of the former DDR, with one of them being Marita Koch. According to the sources, Koch did use the anabolic steroid Oral-Turinabol (4-Chlorodehydromethyltestosterone) from 1981 to 1984 with dosages ranging from 530 to 1460 mg/year." There is one other factor. Marita Koch does NOT appear to have the typical female body structure. She has no "hips" and has much wider shoulders than most every female. The muscle mass all over, particularly in the thighs and shoulders for driving when she is running is very clearly over-developed ....yet lean. She is the ideal candidate for doping. It's too bad she would not admit to cheating. It shows her character .....untrustworthy. She is not deserving of any respect ....and the same applies to the Olympic organization. .

[@magicmulder]

But Koch wasn’t a muscle monster. So whatever she took probably did a lot for her blood oxygen levels etc. but it wasn’t your classical steroid case.

[@hajorooster7983]

why is the time of the 2nd runner not listed in "fastest times since 1985" at 1:32 ? Russian Olga Wladykina-Bryshina finished 48,27 s in this race.

[@caravaggio31]

In fact is still the 9th fastest time today.

[@clancy2535]

Would be interested on a deep dive into the women's 800m world record.

[@WithBACON]

One thing that astonishes me about the 800 meter WR is that it was set with slightly negative splits (56.82 and 56.46, with a very fast last 100) indicating that it could have been quite a bit faster with better pacing.

[@mxRian4]

You’ve got my vote 👍🏾

[@jojolords4523]

@@WithBACON I think that negative split was actually the best possible pacing in this situation. She wanted to take place in a 200m race, but had an injury that didn't allow a fast acceleration which allowed her to not start the 800m race too hard, allowing that negative split world record.

[@WithBACON]

@@jojolords4523 Generally speaking, the way to run 800 meters as fast as possible (at the world-class level) is to have the 1st lap about 2-3 seconds faster than the second. This holds true for women as well as men. In this race ideal pacing would have been something like 27-28-28.5-29. JK's 200 PR was 21.97; obviously an opening 200 in the 27 range (or slightly faster) would not have been a problem.

[@RANDOMZBOSSMAN1]

@@WithBACONyou have to also remember the 800n WR holder could also run 48s 400m the first lap must have felt like a slightly harder jog to her hence the negative spilt

[@user-eh3zv1ex5o]

Living in the Soviet bloc, during those times, their athletes would be under orders to take whatever PED, prescribed by the State Doctors....it was POLICY. Their athletes were propaganda objects of the State and were treated like machines. Any refusal of these tenets, would result in banishment of the athlete and his/her family. ....and we all know the word Gulag and Stasi, don't we.

[@quentincrisp6933]

Do you actually think the U.S. & Europe weren't experimenting with drug use? Come on!

[@regzzuse280]

They were on PEDs but the rest you wrote is the fiction.

[@welshtoro3256]

Exactly. I've been making that same point on these videos. Check out my comment. They were used and abused. I used to hate them but I now feel great pity for them.

[@bm9504nb12]

Yes they were but FloJo was also on drugs. I propose to get a tennis-like "era division" in athletics. The new era should start from 1989 when random testing has been introduced. I just don't believe anything that happened before that regardless of nationality.

[@michaeledwards2251]

@@bm9504nb12 Remember BALCO ? And the cheating methods available now are designed to exit the body in 30 seconds.

[@alanmansfield664]

A friend saw this race live. Your video is informative as I did not realise what a fine 100, 200 and 400 metre she was. We may never know about the underpinnings of her success. Your context explanation is greatly appreciated from an athletics fan,

[@joeortiz7715]

The fact that she took a victory lap and seemed hardly out of breath after such a fast time, was a suspicious sign that something was not normal. Who breaks 30+ world records?

[@gumbi79]

just a genetically superior human

[@lray173]

i've had some of my best times and won many events without showing any signs of being warned out. why? the joy takes over and you don't feel any pain.

[@TheWanderingIrishman]

A man

[@keenannorris3309]

Everybody knows that the East Germans were dirty. It's not a mystery.

[@blaze1148]

@@gumbi79 ....yet none now from Germany...umm ok.

[@anthonypayne2526]

I mean, it’s really no secret though. Drugs drugs drugs.

[@alexmichl3137]

Just like every athlete today....

[@javierfernandezcalleja7454]

I would like to see a video analyzing Coe's 800 race from 1981. It still stands as the 3rd in the all-time list. And Jonathan Edward's triple jump world record.

[@RCFSULAW]

Records by Coe and his Great Britain teammates Cram and Ovett are certainly suspect. The same is true of Lasse Viren and his Finland teammates as well as many distance runners prior to 1985. Many were lab rats using blood doping but who and to what extent remains unknown. But this became a Europe normal practice once distance runners became aware of Viren's use of blood. This led to the banning in 1985. Of course eventually EPO came around and more cheating and bans. There is one World Championship 1500 where they verified subsequent use of EPO or similar drugs with better testing of saved samples. In that one race 9 of the women were identified as verified cheats with two undergoing final stages of their hearings. This was the first time it brought the focus on African nations. In that race the first clean runner was a Canadian in 3rd place. The next clean runner was an American in 7th place. The problem is nobody can go back and recreate the excitement of the race of what would have happened and giving them medals many years afterwards without a stadium cheering is not justice. Now we have super shoes making a mockery of track. Winners are being created in a lab as Nike, Adidas and other shoe companies acknowledge that they continue to try for technological advancements to give their sponsored runners an unfair advantage. It has gotten so bad that the shoes are now being designed to be broken in and worn by world class distance runners with a short run of 5 to 6 miles. Then to be used in only one race for a marathon, 10K or 5K. This happened in the Chicago Marathon when the World Record was just set. But the governing bodies overseeing track and field like these shoes as it has brought back viewers and money into the sport and great profits for shoe companies. But will the International Olympic Committee allow their use as they are creating fake records which the shoe companies have acknowledged has occured since 2017.

[@ChristopheStrobbe]

For Coe's 800 meter race form 1981, see the second part of the video at kzbin.info/www/bejne/h5mkpa2Mq7eLnKs

[@squirtsdaddy9118]

Coe was awesome.

[@philipgates988]

Got his autograph at the Drake Relays in Iowa, USA about that time. There was an Irishman there who was fast as well, OShaunassy or something.

[@RCFSULAW]

@@philipgates988 Eamonn Coghlan was the best Irish miles back then and they used to call him the chairman of the boards because of his ability to win the indoor mile. The other best Irish runner was John Treacy.

[@tamonicus]

Thanks for your video. It brings back memories. I am astonished that IAAF (or whatever the sanctioning body) said they'll only act if the athlete admits to cheating. Why would the athlete admit to cheating and disgrace himself/herself? Why would the IAAF bother to issue such an idiotic statement. On a more positive note, I suggest the 1991 long jump competition between Mike Powell & Carl Lewis at the World T&F Championships in Tokyo. That was, in my mind, by far the greatest long jump duel ever.

[@thomastcrapper4100]

Another drug infested competition.

[@jimmyavpi]

Carl Lewis was one of the world's biggest drug cheats ever..

[@l-_-lShadowCat]

“Mystery” rhymes quite well with “Chemistry”.

[@joebowbeer]

Thanks for this. Also see Marita's interview with Donna de Varona after the race.

[@markbateman9222]

It is no surprise that the record has lasted. Firstly, we have to accept that the coaches in the GDR used every chemical aid their state funded sports science industry could come up with. That is an indisputable fact. However, in addition those same coaches came up with ways of training in the sprint events - 60m to 400m. Read Charlie Francis' book "Speed Trap" which is mainly about his relationship with Ben Johnson. In this book Francis is very open about the huge amount of knowledge he absorbed from the GDR coaches. Their methods were very different from those used by most sprint coaches in the western world.

[@friedemannkemm63]

In an interview she explained how the short distance indoor races were part of the preparation for the outdoor 400. It was based on the theory that most top athletes have the same maximum speed. So you have to win the race on the first 60 meters.

[@rdizzy1]

The majority of athletes in history have been using (and are still using) every chemical aid they can get away with, or think they can get away with. Even going back to the late 1800s baseball players were using performance enhancers. They have just changed what they use and how they use as laws, rules and tests have changed.

[@TheErockaustin]

We don't even have to speculate if she did steroids. There is actual documentation of the amounts she took and when she took them.

[@samwaugh1464]

If technique mattered, where have all the great German sprinters gone since then? What Francis "learned" from the GDR is how to use steroids for his own runner , Ben Johnson, arguably the most infamous cheater of all time.

[@DeadSparko]

​@@TheErockaustin then why is her record still standing?

[@DMT-ix9zj]

Anyone who lived through the late 70's and into the 80's watching T&F then seeing so many Athlete's banned for substance abuse knows what records were juiced results it was obvious.

[@freddieboxingattkof8111]

One of britains top athletic coaches told me many years ago it would be nearly impossibe to win at national level let alone international level without using drugs in most athletic events,britains most famous sprinter generated so much money for the sport the governing body turned a blind eye and even let him know if he was about to be tested so he could pull out of the meet with injury

[@anthonyward5329]

The woman who came second ran 48.27 so should probably feature on the all time list though I appreciate it says since 1985. Amazing they ran those times from lanes 1 and 2.

[@pandaplutten2573]

Very good observation! And I believe that the (former record holder, and still in 800m.) was running on lane 7 in this race.

[@phoebus]

The woman who finished second won Olympic Gold in the 1988 400 meter and Olympic Silver in 1992.

[@jrnumex9286]

yea, goofball voice over all lane 1 got was "slightly challenged by inside""

[@MrVpassenheim]

Also enhanced.

[@phoebus]

Lane 2 isn't so bad. Lane 8 is the worst in a 400 meter, it's good at the beginning, but the last curve is just a long, long way around.

[@thomasgreen1914]

Her lastname wasn't Koch for nothing

[@h.e.l4385]

She was a Kochin.

[@thomasgreen1914]

Yeah she has a Kochin her pants

[@tvgcmma9215]

Same as with Wang Junxia and few other from China and East German swimmers have said - never deliberately cheated but were told to take vitamin tablets that didn’t know what was in them

[@robertcasey7312]

East German Olympic performances can’t be taken seriously. AT ALL!

[@anthonnybrownnn9760]

It will be very hard to break.but Sydney McLaughlin I have my eyes on to break that archaic 400m world record.. Sydney is extraordinary. and it takes a extraordinary athlete to do it. So I think she is the one to do it.agree guy's?

[@JappaKneads]

If she's not juiced up... she might find it hard.

[@bernardm2528]

Yes her or Mboma

[@SlabMurphy]

@@JappaKneadstrack athletes not juicing !!?!? Yeah that’s just impossible

[@thomasgreen1914]

Yep Sydney or Athing. 👏👏

[@pete5691]

Bol

[@Williamottelucas]

And they have only gotten better . . . at avoiding positive drug tests

[@chriswylie253]

The 10 year statute of limitations on PED use is appropriate because while testing has gotten better, so has masking. People like Victor Conte and Balco create not only designer steroids that are increasingly harder to detect, but alternate it with HGH use as well as advanced masking techniques. If she was using she was using crude, easily detectable steroids(like the oral tablets some have suggested here). Now athletes and their coaches know better so to bust her and take away her record would pretend that modern athletes records are done totally clean which is absurd.. Modern athletes have only learned to get away with it better. She's just as much a champion as the majority of other world track record holders. Great athlete and amazing record.

[@richk8112]

East German women had 5:00 shadows from what I remember as a kid. Totally natural.

[@johndef5075]

Some actually transitioned into men. I watched a documentary about them.

[@scottk950]

Of course Flo Jo did the same thing. Her voice dropped as fast as her times

[@michaeldennis2630]

The difference is since she was an American athlete when I have said the same thing people just want to deny it.

[@abone2pick]

Untouchable record after 30+ years 😂 I understand most athletes at the top are on something but this is just next level doping right here

[@rodswift3423]

Her PR was only .17 faster than McLaughlin until she was almost a year and a half older than McLaughlin, who didn't event have a chance to race during peak this summer. Totally dumb, click bait video.

[@robertbucks5537]

PEDs these days are much better. So are recovery methods and shoes.

[@abone2pick]

@@robertbucks5537yet the record is still untouchable suggesting the amount of drugs they were doing was higher then those today

[@xithr5674]

@@robertbucks5537so why hasn’t it gotten broken yet. Yes peds a better now but athletes obv take less of them nowadays, otherwise this record would have already been smashed. It’s obv that in the DDR they had some insane shit.

[@alexmichl3137]

​@@xithr5674Well its a lot about genetics if you have extraordinary athlete in one generation, yes then the record can stay for long periods of time.

[@bobwalters3101]

Thank you for this commentary, and now please address Kratochvílová’s 800m record…

[@paulader9007]

Doped to the gils. Athletes are getting better every year. Better training, better equipment, better nutrition, etc. Just look at the improvements in performance in other sports. All these track and field records that have held up 30 years mean one thing.

[@davidrobbie2920]

athletes have much better shoes and tracks now too

[@h.e.l4385]

"Mean one thing": one meter had 95 cm in the 1980s.

[@stevenbalderstone709]

One point to consider, probably best phrased as a question: the 47.60 400m performance happened in Canberra, Australia. That track is at an altitude of 1,900 feet above sea level. Could that altitude have influenced the finishing times for the first two placed finishers who ran PR's (due to thinner air, and less aero resistance)? An online calculator suggests a benefit of 1 - 2 10ths of a second benefit over 400m at that altitude. This question isn't meant to detract from the obvious doping debate.

[@maxcoore8490]

Very very salient point. It is my view that this fact in addition to being doped to her eyebrows is why this record WILL NEVER EVER be broken or even approached.

[@user-ui6kv2np8i]

Altitude is a point almost no one realizes, also, it was a brand new super quick track on which even club runners had run stunning times just a few days prior to the WC meet.

[@SuperChuckRaney]

Same argument to the Mexico City Olympics...... it's an old argument.

[@markcaporale2559]

​@@SuperChuckRaney 1900' in Canberra is nothing compared to Mexico City's 6800', and likely gives only a negligible advantage

[@TheJhtlag]

@@markcaporale2559 The advantage would be training there and then running at a much lower altitude immediately after. Granted though, if you are not used to the altitude you will not do well, but that would be a case of underperforming until you got acclimatized to your "normal" self.

[@brianmaloney45]

I'm going with the "East German Training" as the explanation.

[@darganx]

I was always convinced Marita had a Koch...

[@h.e.l4385]

A team, probably.

[@orlandoduran9850]

Por fin un VIDEO que comenta los 9 años que duró la carrera de marita koch gracias ella se lo merecía

[@seamusweber8298]

Kochs talent covering 60 metres through to 400 metre races, is freakish. She could be an outlier, regardless of whether she doped or not

[@Birdlegs14]

Absolute outlier 100% the 60 up through 400 require very different skillsets

[@Mark-tb1jq]

It doesn’t happen anymore. Jamaicans also don’t run indoors. Irina Privalova was world-class from 60m up to 400m hurdles in the 90’s.

[@welshtoro3256]

That's the thing. The GDR sporting authorities would have recognised her talent when she was very young. From that moment on she would have been forced to dope whether she wanted to or not and the authorities would not have cared less about any risk to her long term health.

[@Kissypooh]

She was most likely a phenomenal talent. But she absolutely doped as it was mandatory under the USSR in order to be able to compete, and she willingly complied and then has lied about it for decades since. Her talent is far superior to her character, because she was a winner, but much more a cheater.

[@MirjanaLfan]

@@Kissypoohyou do know USSR and GDR were two entirely different countries?

[@kenallen4175]

The gal in lane 1 smoked it pretty well as well

[@pahtar7189]

She was Olga Bryzgina of Ukraine, yet another Eastern Bloc athlete who was probably doping.

[@bram99494]

That is still the 4th fastest women’s 400m of all time

[@kenallen4175]

@@bram99494that's crazy!!

[@dougkenny6548]

Reminds me of the SNL all drug Olympics skit. He's attempting to dead lift 5000 pounds and he pulled his arms off. Oh He's gonna feel that in the morning.

[@shaunhouse8469]

I remember when Lance Armstrong was stripped of the 7 tour titles and they claimed Motorola/US Postal was the highest level most highly organised doping operation in sports history and thought you really should be aware doping in Olympic sports in the DDR was almost the primary government activity along with encouraging everyone the inform on their neighbours, family and friends

[@shaunhouse8469]

I cannot exclude the possibility that exaggeration may have been used in above comment

[@kimjongunmoresubsthant-ser2812]

That’s why Leon edwards had the most aesthetic physique

[@ccbgaming6994]

Indeed

[@abj136]

I would like to see on Beamon/Lewis/Powell and why no one else could come close.

[@terike9738]

Carl Lewis was on HGH his whole career while trumpeting that he was squeaky clean. Sickening.

[@musicfan300]

Americans didn't used to focus on the Olympics...in Bob Beamon's era and before, many Olympians were just good athletes who got encouraged by their coaches or other sports insiders just before the Olympics to give the events they qualified for a shot... that's why America used to complain so loudly about Communist countries doping back in the day.

[@davehooper5115]

Mind-blowing stuff that Is, but It's so hard to believe that with modern-day fast runners they have not come close.....really

[@orlandoduran9850]

Finally a video that shows the History of the enormous 47.60 in 400, a story that lasted 8 years, not from one year to the next like another of 100 and 200 FINALLY......

[@zaneclone]

Would be interesting to now the drug regimes of various athletes of the time... Kratochvilova ended up looking like a fella- yet Koch looked like a typically fit female...

[@Xx-po1fu]

Her teammates admitting to using drugs

[@tankeater]

8:20 THAT INSIDE LANE TOOK A BAD FALL!!! It looks like sand from the long jump 😂🤦‍♂️

[@RealLifeFinance]

Ouch

[@dimosthenismavroyannis2564]

Apart from all the controversial scenarios regarding her performances, the only thing I can say about Marita is that she is an extremely talented being, very humble, very warm and kind, I thiank I have never met someone like her before, and it is probably too late to meet agai. She is definitely the best friend I ever had, and she was so good hearted and so offering that I would name her as "The unforgotten Marita". She gave to me so many participation numbers that decorated her chest while she was crossing the line with another world record registered, so much love and care, so much tender care, that she will definitely be my last thought when I will leave this world for the big trip... She inspired a whole generation and I was in tears of joy when she brought for me one of her gold medals of one of her world records (in 200m), a medal that was a huge inspiration for me to be a long distance runner under her golden aura. For the ones that never met this super humble girl, the only thing I can say is that you would definitely love to the bottom of your hearts her as all people who were lucky to meet her felt. Definitely the eternal record holder of a golden heart record in the world of sports and not only... The great Marita Koch.

[@Jeroen1983]

Controversial? There's documentary evidence she was doped up to the gills. No one who uses drugs to win a game can be considered either humble or great.

[@kennethanderson-wd2cx]

Far to many words for a KZbin comment. Sounds like more Soviet era propaganda to me. Ok fine, she’s the most humble, inspirational, CHEATER with a golden heart.

[@stephenwilliams7200]

People really think They still don't use drugs nowadays.!😂😂

[@AnHebrewChild]

Exactly. People are so naive it hurts

[@XDF745]

A lot of Americans still think FloJo was clean. 🙄

[@carlosalmira5460]

This is so true....and still the record stands. It is an amazing record, juiced or not juiced. I think Levrone has a shot.

[@wilhelmw3455]

Would love to see more videos about unbroken world records from this era.

[@BlueHopi144]

High Jump , Sotomayor

[@pandaplutten2573]

@@BlueHopi144 and high jump - Stefka Kostadinova...

[@BlueHopi144]

@@pandaplutten2573 Indeed

[@caravaggio31]

Try World Championships Rome 1987, high jump world record. Stefka Kostadinova. Still stand.

[@janerikkvarsten2273]

I think with the new shoe technology and other technological advances in tracking the bodily functions with smart programs and AI tracking, the athletes will be able to break this record within ten years i believe. And with the new backtracking system of doping tests and bloodpass, it will be possible to root out cheaters. I hope that they do a preemptive approval system of shoe technology so that the shoes must be pre sertified for a WR or IAAF world events for the results to be valid, so no new hidden secret clips to the cracks that would give one specific athlete or athletes an unfair advantage over the competition in any moment. Then the records of the future and those old controversial records will fall, including this one and finaly we will feal good about the WR in stead of fealing a little off about it.

[@jaimeizreal8810]

There's no mystery here @Total Running Productions. She was on juice (same with Joyner), it's just that they simply did not have the ability to see these peptides.

[@hishamhussein4282]

If Flo-Jo can run 10.49 then 47.60 doesn’t seem that unbelievable 😊

[@h1dd3n11]

flo was definitely on roids too and the wind was like +5 that day

[@Lifetalk849]

​@@h1dd3n11 Flo was quickly cremated following her unexpected & sudden death. Nothing to see here, folks...Move along...

[@TheJhtlag]

@@Lifetalk849 After her heart exploded.

[@Lifetalk849]

@@TheJhtlag 😢

[@mikenealon4042]

@@h1dd3n11 10:49- if the wind was a factor (which i do not deny) why didn't 2-8 lanes run super times as well

[@khumokwezimashapa2245]

This was pretty interesting. I'm still suspicious of her 47.6. However this just make me think that performance of hers was just one of those insane feats an athlete can pull off once. Kinda like Eddie Hall dead lifting 500kg. He could never replicate that feat ever again, but still had world class strength.

[@NonFlyiingDutchman]

except we know she was using PEDs from the Stasi records

[@thebigpicture2032]

@@NonFlyiingDutchman just like Eddie Hall was.

[@thelog86]

Im surprised that record still stands. And i believe the women that could easily challenge that record doesnt prefer to run the 400. There are quite a few women running the 200m in the 21s and its very common to run in the 200m in th 22s so it seems to me the women that could challenge that record doesnt like running the 400m. If she can run a 21 200m seems like she could run at least a 47 or even a 46 400m if she endurance trained to do it. The ones running it now has the endurance to run a 400 but not the speed to run a competative 200m you have to have both

[@thelog86]

If you trained a world class 200m sprinter to run the 400m they would break that record in no time. Its just 200m sprinters stay away from the 400m because its grueling

[@thebigpicture2032]

@@thelog86 Great idea! Wonder why they haven’t thought of that.

[@4plum]

Clean record to show and at sea level too - Jonathan Edwards triple jump record which has stood for almost 40 years. He broke it on 2 consecutive jumps too and not been touched since.

[@horstmueller1000]

There is a mistake. Olha Bryzhina, Olga Arkad'evna Vladykina. Bryzhina's 400m personal best of 48.27 seconds is the women's 4th best result of all time in a laned 400m race. She achieved this in the same race that Marita Koch set the current 400m world record of 47.60 seconds on 6 October 1985 at the Bruce Stadium in Canberra (Australia). As you can see in your video, Olha is faster on the last 20 meters. Olhna's daughter stroke in 2012 with a great clocking over 200m. At min 1:32 she would be third in the list you show. Please correct.

[@brianmartin6485]

Would be interested in the men’s high jump world record.

[@kimchee94112]

With better tests those performances were not repeated.

[@frednyberg7408]

Steriod use was rampant in the gyms by 1970 with weightlifters and bodybuilders, and used earlier by athletes prior to testing. Dianabol started it, then more powerful drugs were added.

[@ronaldstilwell3464]

It was obvious even when I used to watch these Eastern block athletes (when I was a high school track athlete) that they appeared oddly male in their appearance---particularly their muscle definition---that they were on something that was improving their performance. Later in the 80's it turned into an epidemic.

[@flugphase]

disregarding to the East German doping system, Marita Koch had by far the best and most efficient running technique of all Sprinters I have seen over the decades. That certainly helps being the fastest, too....

[@markrene6108]

An Aussie Raylene Boyle kept coming second to the east Germans back in the day. It saddens me that a legendary athlete never got the accolades she deserved. World & Olympic Gold were stolen by not the athletes, but a evil German athletics program you would only imagine seeing in China, Russia or some other godless nation. Your a immortal of Athletics Raylene & one day you will be recognised for your greatness, ambassador for sport & as a humble human being 🏅🎖️

[@profd65]

Boyle was almost certainly also on PED's.

[@vJiinxz]

1:32 you forgot to include Olgas time of 48.27 which she achieved in this race at 2nd place

[@taraschepurny2709]

Q: Was the GDR using PED's that were not yet discovered thereby avoiding the banned substance list?

[@Dillon81]

He would be a sick bantamweight in the ufc 🤣🤣🤣

[@16nowhereman]

Let's see. All the other runners competing against Kock have stated that they have used some type of doping, but Kock has said that she did not take any substance to enhance her performance, then she is one incredible athlete.

[@user-wy8sj3ed3f]

В 1962 году Питер Снелл пробежал , на травяной дорожке, 880 ярдов за 145.1( 144.3 800м по ходу) Как рекорд Океании он продержался более 50 лет, хотя там хватало классных бегунов , беги он на современном Мондо в современных шиповках, его рекорд был бы не менее 142 Много бегунов бежало быстрее по прошествии 60 лет? Ещё Лидьярд писал, что если генетически одаренный бегун , на пике формы, установит рекорд, то побить его будет очень сложно. А у Кох была потрясающая базовая скорость 7.04 60м , возможно в этом секрет ее успеха. Что касается допинга, то все были в равных условиях. Просто в ГДР это поставили на научную основу, а немецкая педантичность и широкие возможности в поисках талантов( социалистическая система давала огромные возможности) - секрет успеха спортсменов ГДР

[@SuperChuckRaney]

It's mere coincidence she has the legs of a race horse and the hair of a man. Not that there is anything wrong with that. Watch the runner in lane 1 actually closed up on the Koch as they came to the line? She was much farther back in the turn. Jose Canseco, the baseball player, juiced up and went from barely running bases to stealing bases and became a serious all star player.

[@SuperChuckRaney]

@@user-wy8sj3ed3f all the dope in the world wont matter if she doesn't do the work. She must have REALLY worked hard to gain so much.

[@user-wy8sj3ed3f]

@@SuperChuckRaney Кох, в отличие от Кратохвиловой, на мужчину совсем не похожа и никак, внешне, не отличалась от других бегуний на 400м

[@SuperChuckRaney]

@@user-wy8sj3ed3f I looked again, you are correct, I had them backwards

[@pakalwotan]

There is little doubt that athletes in the 80's and even much later performances, were enhanced by the use of doping programs of some kind, but that doesn't explain why, other athletes under the same or other doping programs, were never able to match these incredible achievements. Already in 2005, Lance Armstrong was deceiving authorities with a very sofiticated doping practicies. It is also very probable that Florence Grifith Joyner and Joyner Kersee were performing with the use of illegal substances and none were able to match Marita Koch's amazing records.

[@Nightstalker314]

Doping was a standard procedure from teenage years on for basically any competitive athlete within the GDR (and also the entire eastern block - yes western athletes also used doping).

[@florinivan6907]

In the West it was more of an individual thing with support from your coach and sponsors. In the East it was government led. The extent to which individual athletes were aware of what they were given and potential side effects varies. Some(many) certainly knew while others the ones who were good but tended to talk a lot probably only knew it as 'cold pills' or whatever.

[@tulyar57]

There will always be doubt on the validity of this record and we seem to think that sport will inevitably get better over time. However, Mike Powell's long jump record of 1991, Javier Sotomayor's high jump record in 1993 and Jonathan Edward's triple jump record of 1995 still stand to this day so it is possible that Koch was just an incredible talent.

[@Kissypooh]

Or, more likely, many athletes at the time were getting away with massive doping, and never got caught, officially.

[@frankmollegaard1989]

It's possible that Lance Armstrong is an incredible talent as well and he is according to Lance Armstrong.

[@michaeledwards2251]

In the triple jump, the optimum jump requires an unstable transition. Jonathan Edwards was able to calm his mind before a jump which why his record stands to this day : It could be unbeaten for a hundred years or fall tomorrow : it requires a world class triple jumper with a special mental skill under competitive stress. The banning of a somersault long jump has prevented 10m + long jumps becoming standard. Javier had exceptional bounciness, combined with the right musculature : a very rare combination in low cash event such as high jump.

[@thejmc4074]

It happened. Whether she used or not is immaterial. We watched it happen, it’s valid.

[@mrdz1812]

Doped or not we must give credit where is due. Koch was a prodigy. Running everything from 60 to 400 is insane. Also 400 is the event where the biggest time difference is made. Woman have been winning medals with 50.x and 48.x so it isn’t as unusual. I believe Perec was able to dip sub 48 and Naser, Sydney, SMU and possibly Bol are also capable of doing it.

[@thomasgreen1914]

Doped gets NO CREDIT

[@ccbgaming6994]

@thomasgreen1914 That’s not the point, take the best runners ever and dope them to the gills and they still wouldn’t beat this mark

[@hakuakua3020]

@@ccbgaming6994 sir thomas won't get it. Folks that like think drugs are the sole reason someone can reach that. There has to be something there to begin with and if it isn't. Well no amount of drugs will fill the gap.

[@trinidadrodriquez876]

@@thomasgreen1914all the pros are doping as well guaranteed. You think they’re running just. Drinking protein shakes. And using creating. And eating fruits and vegetables.

[@S9999Frank]

How do you have any idea of what somebodys progress on steroids would be ? DDR women started growing beards back in the day, suggesting testosterone use, and surely a lot of men can run sub 47, as could many women on testo and anabolic steroids@@ccbgaming6994

[@fritsgerms3565]

How many women have doped after her and never ran close to her times. Considering all modern training techniques (which can be considered doping as well) I think she was pretty unique.

[@btf_flotsam478]

My favorite detail about this record is the ground. Here's another video of it: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bavIfZV8mpaapKs

[@randomnubcake2528]

She was juiced to the gills, as was the woman who owns the 800m world record. It's possible to take steroids during training (because steroids are used to allow someone to train harder and recover faster) and then let them leech out of your system before testing is done - you reap all the benefits and don't get caught. The fact that nobody has gotten close to either of these records since the mid 1980s, despite advances in training and running shoe technology, says that these records were definitely enhanced.

[@lynchdavid2194]

For you to even mention PED'S about Koch and not talk about PED'S in the video's you've done about FloJo, Carl Lewis. Is simply wrong, when you see the evidence against these athletes. Especially FloJo.

[@bjornlangoren3002]

Well, this one is about a race FloJo was not in, so why should he. FloJo was absolutely doped, and doping was prevalent already at college level in USA. Several athletes from Norway that went to USA to study, were later caught with doping, especially throwers.

[@thejmc4074]

@@bjornlangoren3002he is saying he didn’t mention them in videos about the other two.

[@harmonicarchipelgo9351]

She was a national East German athlete, and was therefore doping. However, lots of athletes dope to this very day (Russia recently got caught doping everyone for example. They are far from the only country that does it.). So drugs alone don't explain this record. Very impressive regardless. The 10 year statute of limitations almost feels like an acknowledgement that doping/masking is part of the sport. Something like, "congrats! You got avoided detection long enough that you passed the test and your results count".

[@tobiasisback4605]

I believe the real world record belongs to Poland's Irene Szewinska, who beat Koch in some high profile races. She was not doped.

[@ThePasterio]

Ok. I can beleive that.

[@caravaggio31]

Irene was an Iron Curtain athlete too, why not doped?? The fact is: Koch was a natural beast. Just putting what she achieved on drugs is stupid, none of the other "doped" came even close to her. Bullshit.

[@tobiasisback4605]

@@caravaggio31 I I believe not doped because her body remains very slim and not very muscular, unlike Koch, Stecher, Kratochvilova etc who looked like men with acne. Also, no big leaps in performance, she was consistently great over many years, before doping became widespread. Yes, Koch was a great athlete. But it's well documented that all the east Germans at that time were juiced.

[@bengan2588]

imagine her running in a better lane.

[@justinstephenson9360]

IMO this record is definitely drug fuelled, but I also believe that is true for the women's 100m, 200m and 800m WRs. The difference is that the 100m and 200m WR are under real threat because there is a group of athletes pushing each other closer and closer to breaking it. 400m has been different for over 30 years because so few athletes break 49s, so breaking 47s looks impossible. For far too long, there has been a big psychological barrier to even going after this record, I would go so far as to say that the barrier is at 49s flat. However, now we have 3-4 athletes who are clearly capable of sub 49s on a regular basis. Once 49s is no longer seen as a barrier for the elite performers they will push closer and closer to the WR.

[@yvonnesanders4308]

Bodies have limits

[@howardyoung5587]

In those years you needed to take drugs on order to compete. I once roomed with a UK sprinter who refused to take the drugs offered and he ended up on the bobsleigh team where a drugs regime had not been implemented!

[@AaaBbb-rs9jz]

Unfortunately any East German athlete in the 1970s was a member of the world leader country, of all time, for drug doping. Testing was also poor then compared with now. Very sad (and difficult to believe) if any East German athlete could escape or refuse the very latest drug enhancements being pushed on the national team at international events

[@benden5095]

Truly amazing what performance enhancing drug can do.

[@alexmichl3137]

More like hard work and drugs. I mean everyone in pro athletics is on drugs today too

[@benden5095]

@alexmichl3137 We are talking about banned or prohibited drugs.

[@alexmichl3137]

@@benden5095 Ok *PEDS

[@matthiasroiss4739]

Any running record that is 20+ years old is probably doped.

[@dingodave04]

It's not just that they were doped, it's what they were doping with. They were on stuff way stronger than anything an athlete could even dream of taking today, if they planned on passing a drug teat.

[@Finarphin]

All the records have been done by athletes who were using performance enhancing drugs of some kind. In the 80s they were able to get away with more.

[@caravaggio31]

of course not, Human beings have their limits and the closer you get to them, the more difficult it is and the longer it takes to overcome the stages to the final limit.

[@edwardclark2653]

This athlete is very familiar with free iron. This women is a professional athlete. I have worked with a few dedicated athletes that pumped iron to this extent. They already had natural muscular development. This athlete has trained to be champion of the world.

[@robertvirnig638]

I feel for some of these athletes who have admitted the use of these drugs as they really had no choice, they were part of a national organization that made it all but mandatory. This is different than athletes such as Lance Armstrong for whom it was an individual decision.

[@bobsbbcards]

Dude sure could run. 😊

[@cliffwheeler7357]

@bobsbbcards I always thought he,sorry, she was pumped full of something.

[@guitarsandcheesecake1632]

Marita Koch was an incredible athlete. And as you say, never failed a drug test. You can't ask for more than that!! She was running for more than just medals and records. In East Germany, the only chance they had to see the world, was too be a world class athlete. The more motivation the better, believe me. And I've been 5 times world powerlifting champion 😂😂😂😂😂

[@benson3086]

maybe she had a koch

[@guitarsandcheesecake1632]

@benson3086 maybe, I've no idea!!

[@stuartmisfeldt3068]

Lance never failed either.

[@Kissypooh]

I can ask for more than that. What an idiotic statement. In the last 10 years the Russians have been caught falsifying drug tests for their own athletes who have all been doping. Those Russians didn't "fail a drug test" because the testers were corrupt Russians. Do you have a brain?

[@Kissypooh]

Bingo, the athletes are corrupt, the testers are corrupt, and the national federations are as dirty as a tootsie roll that's been lying in the corner of a pub for 30 years. @@stuartmisfeldt3068

[@clintlewis8122]

If it quacks like a duck, walks like a duck and looks like a duck. IT IS A DUCK!!

[@carlosalmira5460]

You mean its a d..i...*...k... 🤫

[@TheVagolfer]

What was the time of the second place runner?

[@rickschroeder9012]

To dominate from 60m to 800. Can’t be done without cheating. They should do a Timelapse of her coming down the straight mixed over the years and check out her changes in physique.

[@TheErockaustin]

They don't have to do an analysis. They documented everything. We know what drugs she took, how much, and when she took them

[@rossbroomfield5199]

While I think its very likely Koch was doping I think a lot of people overestimate how much doping can improve your performance especially in sprint/power events. The main benefits are you can train more and it makes you more consistent. That 0.8 of a second faster than the fastest trustworthy athlete I think is more than just drugs!

[@magicmulder]

Apart from the drug issues, I think this was a one in a million race. She basically ran an all-out 300 meter dash and then winged the final 100 meters. And 999,999 times out of a million, that doesn’t work out. She never ran close to this again, proving it wasn’t just the drugs, nor just the talent, nor both combined. It was a massive coincidence.

[@darrenbrown7037]

The thing is… everyone says she was using performance enhancing drugs, I would assume if she was then everyone else in the race, or at least some others in the race, were using the same drugs. She couldn’t have been the only one exposed to such things at this level of running.