The Dark Side Of World Records

[@Dave-lr2wo]

I tested positive just watching this video.

[@ChucksGhost01]

😂

[@ricardogonzalez1894]

[@colinsparman26]

Watch closely and you`d see the "nuts"!

[@craighenry2351]

That is a hilarious comment!

[@tbhfoo1]

Great comment!! Lol!!! Funny!!

[@1dkappe]

My brother and I were in Germany for the summer at my grandmother’s house in Nürnberg. We went running out at the park around the corner but wanted to make it back in time for the men’s 800m. We ran back just in time to catch it. My grandmother’s TV took a long time to warm up so we could hear the crowd roaring well before the picture came in and revealed this big dude pounding down the home stretch. I cursed, thinking we had missed the men’s 800m. Then I saw the rest of the women make the turn for home. That dude was Kratochvilova and this was the race.

[@deagt3388]

Remembering also this race when I was a kid, your's description is so true... 😉

[@KalebSDay]

I thought this was going to be a men's race before the rest of the pack was showed off too in the first clip haha.

[@jhadebredenkamp97]

Exactly and white people are not ready to accept this because they always refer to Caster when talking about DSD athletes but look at this man🥱🥱🥱

[@emilygooner9697]

She’s so masculine looking

[@deagt3388]

Cause of steroids use, look at her now.@@emilygooner9697

[@carsonmalleet4367]

She’s built like Nick Symmonds, and I’ve seen Nick Symmonds get accused of steroids so many times throughout his career. This is the most obviously not natty world record in existence and I have no idea why we’ve let it stand. It DOES NOT COUNT in my head canon.

[@1world2coexist]

For realz!!

[@williamverhoef4349]

"I have no idea why we’ve let it stand" Umm....just a wild guess: A PROFOUND LACK OF EVIDENCE!

[@shreddedatsixty]

She looks more jacked than Nick, probably stronger too. 😆

[@williamverhoef4349]

@@shreddedatsixty Yeah, I guess that's what it takes to break a world record that has stood for 40 years.

[@itsinthetreesitscoming7431]

it's obviously a druggie-record, but not moreso than say, Flo-Jo's...

[@jollymolly2521]

As someone who remembers watching Kratochvilova, Koch, etc. run at the time? The doping was so obvious you'd have had to be blind not to see they were hopped up on steroids. There were so many women from Eastern Bloc countries who looked like middle linebackers that joke was always that the sprinters and middle distance runners were beefier than the throws athletes. They would give interviews through translators and had deeper voices than most male athletes. I remember when Randy Barnes was doping people would joke that the East Germans and Czech's were bigger than Barnes. Given that the testing at the time wasn't very good - of course Kratochvilova's coach said she was taking B12. Similarly Carl Lewis took a lot of "cold medication." Snort.

[@guitarsandcheesecake1632]

But they didn't fail a drug test 😂😂😂😂

[@itsinthetreesitscoming7431]

@@guitarsandcheesecake1632 yeah, that was difficult back then wasn't it. They'd hide in training camps juicing to the gills and then stop a couple of months before a major championship, where they might get tested. Rest of the year could do what the fuck they liked.... To suggest that she was clean goes beyond delusional. It couldn't be any more fucking obvious without actually seeing her sticking the needle in.

[@rossfripp4503]

@@guitarsandcheesecake1632 you'll only fail a test if they test for the right stuff.

[@guitarsandcheesecake1632]

@rossfripp4503 correct. But if its not on the band list, who's fault is that. Having been tested myself I'm sure they test for all band substances

[@bignasty3274]

​@guitarsandcheesecake1632 No, she didn't, but not only was the testing nowhere as advanced as it is now, but it also has to be on the banned list to be tested for. LSD was created in 1938 but didn't get made illegal to use until 1966. So no law no fowl! She's 72 now and I bet she would still test positive if they tested her😅

[@andrewbigelow4563]

You should mention the fact that the second fastest time ever recorded in this race was set in 1980 by Soviet athlete Olizarenko at the Olympic Games. This time is still the Olympic record and Kratochvílová only beat it by 0.15 second. Both of these times are a long way ahead of the third fastest effort.

[@AllInTheGame01]

The times from the Eastern Bloc athletes from the 70/80s from the likes of Kratochvílová, Olizarenko, Mineyeva, Kazankina, Wodars, Wachtel, Shtereva, Providokhina should all be dismissed imo!

[@ricardogonzalez1894]

......and Olizarenko did it without braking a sweat......so effortlessly....very similar to Marita Koch's 400m WR.....similar somatotype....they did not look "masculine" like Kratochvílová, though. These three WR are very suspicious and will always be no matter how much they say and defend themselves on TV.

[@lexyvanderichyngmakani5754]

I can only see Jeolousy amongst nations and from critics.. spreading propaganda..mmm to dimiss some competitors winning times..such as Joe flow women's fastest American female sprinter..

[@loridiaz9601]

@@lexyvanderichyngmakani5754 Flo Jo didn’t look like a man !!! The eastern block women all looked like men - so full of steroids - pretty much every eastern block female athlete in the 70’s n 80’s was questionable. Jealousy 😂😂😂 what woman is jealous of a woman that looks like a man 😂😂😂. Who gets jealous of teams that cheat - it should be extreme shame to cheat.

[@craighenry2351]

And we should be surprised that a Soviet athlete still has the Olympic record? Who do you think taught the Csechs and the East Germans how to dope?

[@missjerseyz2008]

I watched the first 46 seconds of the video thinking this Dude must be on Juice with those muscles running the 800, then I find out its the Womens 800. Stop it, no test needed

[@GeoRedtick]

Me too.

[@arendlanser8818]

I had that same thought. I was surprised to see the women trailing in the background.

[@Tjs736]

Thought it was footage of a decathlete

[@alexanderSydneyOz]

Me too.

[@juliana8113]

Exactly the same!!! I thought it was a man lol

[@ArthurSavage]

I don't think it is possible to train 7 hours a day pretty much every day of the year and recover fast enough unless you are using performance enhancing drugs.

[@ricardogomespedro4365]

Of course. Only a fool believes that all was clean in Jarmila training. Also, with so many and intensive training sessions (e.g. weightlifting) the risk of injury should be colossal, even with PED

[@jasonm3121]

Damn straight-NO 800m runner could ever train like that-the model at the time was Seb Coe's and he seldom trained twice a day-usually a track session and on other days he did a moderate amount of road mileage.

[@roderickreilly9666]

including amphetamines

[@theunknown21329]

Even Marathon runners don't train that much everyday. There's no way any human can do intervals everyday without getting injured.

[@jojolords4523]

It is possible, but very risky, so very unlikely to ever happen. Maybe that's the truth behind after all, look at how Kelvin Kiptum trains for the marathon. I think that it takes that kind of training to break such world records, a very extreme one that nobody would ever do. I even made an extreme training when I just started track and field in 2017 and I was surprised how quickly I improved within just 3 months, it ain't happening with any normal training method and I did that by myself.

[@fernandoserrano9393]

All of the world records for weightlifting have been reset several times. It was due to other reasons, but it’s one of the few sports that are known to be more dirty than track and field.

[@marknorris1381]

And cycling.

[@samalmond2321]

Her coach supplying her with his own special supply of supplements is one if the buggest red flags to me

[@caseysmith544]

Mine too and I think Meratova may not have been aware of the drugs being forced on her.

[@haydnlovie3855]

​@caseysmith544 r u sure, she can honestly see difference in her own biology changing U knw what goes in ur body or just ignorant either way she new

[@caseysmith544]

@@haydnlovie3855 Not sure at time She knew what was being done and her coach may have used an excuse given to him by government to explain if athletes seem suspicious of PED use for her to say for interviews to explain it all away when fans and interviewers are suspicious of PED drugs. Sure, some other athletes did know and were given excuses for interviews where people are suspicious of PED use, using same or similar excuse every time by almost every athlete. But these were athletes who would not turn in themselves or others for PED use. She may have been one of those personalities where if they know they expose entire system banning each country forever even now after USSR/modern Russian influence is over in most areas.

[@bola5671]

​@@haydnlovie3855 Ignorant literally means "lack of knowledge". You're contradicting your own argument

[@charmsly9506]

Mm yeah "b12" 🤡

[@lukedovey3682]

I think its obvious why it hasn't been broken.... look at her ffs!!! She is more juiced than Del Monte

[@lol-gb5vt]

she looks like a dude lmao

[@felixmikael9495]

What are ffs

[@BearelyDrawing]

Comparing the comments on this video and the ones on Florence Griffith Joyner is certainly interesting.

[@errolreid7325]

Both drug cheats

[@AnEnglishGentleman]

I’ve literally just come from that video and you are quite correct! ✅

[@jamespearson7001]

Yeah , Flo Jo died young , her dubious records will take some beating .

[@arii_mariii]

Flo Jos has scientific evidence that should allow it to be overturned though, were as this one has less than needed for supplemental purposes

[@eunicepadilla4513]

Drugs seem almost like a certainty. So many red flags from her physique to her times even to the Eastern European block in the 80s. All the signs are there. Reminds me of the saying "when something seems too good to be true, it usually is."

[@filipjanku2809]

Eastern block? How about Flo Jo? Did she defect to Moscow? I did not notice. Her records are also like from a different universe.

[@paulf9487]

​@@filipjanku2809Don't bring Flo Jo into this conversation, you'll upset our American friends.

[@wilhelmw3455]

No mention in the video that she was possibly intersex, she also had a legal 200m best time of 21.97 seconds from 1981 one of the fastest ever times back then and still world class today, no current female 800m runner is even close to being world class at 200m.

[@ronester1]

yea probably both DSD and PEDs dangerous combo 😬

[@jasonm3121]

Intersex, huh? Yeah well rampent steroid use DOES tend to mess with someone's sex identity

[@cjcurtis8944]

@@jasonm3121intersex is a biological thing, not a sex or gender identity thing.

[@cjcurtis8944]

I don’t think she was intersex just heavily juiced for years.

[@jasonm3121]

Indeed it is-sometimes obvious flippancy is not visible even with perfect vision.@@cjcurtis8944

[@lynchdavid2194]

It obvious that she is on PED'S and it equally obvious that FloJo was also on PED'S. The funny thing is that America tries to pretend she was clean. Ignoring the fact that FloJo appreance changed. Her muscle tone changed. The fact that she improved her 200m time by 7 tenths of a second.Also improved her 100m time by 5 tenths of second. All in one year. Also dying at 38 or 39 years and the optopsy show she had a enlarge heart common with Steroid use and a rare brain issue that was common with the use of HGH. Which could have been the reason she had a epileptic seizure and died

[@stuartwadlow9815]

100%

[@RogerPack]

Happy to remove flojos if these others go:)

[@OfficalTrollHunter]

That's the thing is it's not obvious.

[@3jasonwebb]

as an American I'll say she is definitely very sus. You hear her whole story and she is very sus. I would bet she was on PEDs. She got really fast all of a sudden after not even training for very long.

[@joeortiz7715]

She didn't suddenly get fast. She had been competing since the late 70s. Her appearance didn't change either.

[@AllInTheGame01]

Unfortunately, so many women haven't gotten the love/accolades that should've come with being a World Record Holder cos of drug cheats from the 70/80s :( The likes of Pamela Jelimo (1.54.01) & Ana Fidelia Quirot (1.54.44) should've been celebrated more but unfortunately weren't. Hopefully the likes of Athing, Keely & Mary Moraa can stay healthy & push each other as close as possible to that WR!

[@lol-gb5vt]

hopefully athing mo actually continues to run, not sure of too many performances after last year... (not implying roids but just stating her lack of races last year sadly)

[@AllInTheGame01]

​​​@@lol-gb5vtHolding one season against her makes no sense when she competed a lot in literally every other prior season plus the pressure of remaining unbeaten in the 800m after an unbeaten '21 & '22 was starting to get to her. With that defeat in Budapest now out of the way and with ending the season with a 1.54.97 NR, I expect her to kick on and be the first clean athlete to run sub 1.54. She's got the talent to be the only female athlete to run sub 22.5s/49s/1.54m/4m in the 200/400/800/1500m respectively!

[@williamverhoef4349]

"Unfortunately, so many women haven't gotten the love/accolades that should've come with being a World Record Holder cos of drug cheats from the 70/80s" That's an accusation without any evidence whatsoever. Imagine that you are in a similar situation - broke a world record, innocent of cheating but unable to prove you are innocent, but faced with public accusations that you cheated without any evidence that you did and, as a result, you missed out on the "love/accolades that should've come with being a World Record Holder". This cuts both ways.

[@AllInTheGame01]

@@williamverhoef4349 You seriously think there were ZERO athletes that benefited from state-sponsored doping from that era?!

[@jasonm3121]

Oh come on, Bill-just take a look at Jarmilla for a nanosecond-this gal was bigger than the 100m lady sprinters of today who have demonstrably benefitted from the advances in sports science and modern training methodologies/philosophies etc. She's even more muscular than any of the 800m men, for crying out loud. What are the "rational" odds of all this just being purely coincidental? In Law, circumstance alone, in the absence of "hard evidence for any number of reasons is frequently sufficient to convict bad doers.@@williamverhoef4349

[@AndreasJohanns]

Thanks for your question: I don't buy it. Her physical characteristics...right! Other male and female sprinters have focused on the 100 and 200 for years and they don't begin to approach what she's hauling.

[@xahyt-o9e]

Doing 1 push up and 2 sit-ups for every like this comment gets - gotta get big for the ladies

[@christiansantana4869]

Don’t do it for them, do it for yourself king

[@runkaiserrun7435]

I can only like once but I'll comment everyday

[@lol-gb5vt]

post a video (hide your face somehow if you must) in a week as proof mate 💪 loving this comment trend

[@KiloMike80]

You can do push ups for the rest of your life. But You’ll still never get big enough for one “ladie”…Kratochvilova.

[@PantoneMemes]

W

[@paulf9487]

She always reminds me of Roger Daltry from the Who.

[@markfarrer1437]

Absolutely pissin myself she's a eightball wizard! 😂

[@garethcharlton7508]

It is Roger what are you talking about ......

[@drlovepants]

Perhaps it is Roger....a substitute for another guy...

[@markrskinner]

YEEEEEAAAAH!

[@reisbelramirez3928]

So true but manlier

[@tokuchitoua3729]

I just ordered a shit ton of B12, I'll keep you posted.

[@user-fh1rl9kr8x]

😂

[@elainekerslake6865]

Whhoooosh...there you go....went😊😊😊😊

[@steveallen1340]

Planned to run the 200 but got injured at the last moment so decided to run the 800 and set a world record that has stood for over 40 years and still stands. Sounds totally legit.

[@Fezziekid]

It's worth stating that training of that intensity is often a sign of PEDs, those not on them can't recover fast enough to benefit from them.

[@maartenaalsmeer]

In 2023 Femke Bol ran a 49,26 400m indoor WR and took over Jarmila Kratochvilova's 400m indoor WR (49, 59) dating back to 1982. So there's still hope.

[@franks3904]

No theres not. 47.60 by Koch is out of this world

[@sacollectiblesii]

​@@franks3904 if femke would stop the pursuit of the 400H (which she ALREADY peaked in) and her and sydney raced each week (sydney ran like 6 races all of 2023) they would surely break the outdoor 400F~ lil bro

[@franks3904]

@@sacollectiblesii if my aunt had balls she’d be my uncle.

[@franks3904]

@@sacollectiblesii if my auntie had balls she would be my uncle

[@MarkTilley-tk3er]

Bol is incredible. I can't wait for the 400MH Paris O's. Bol and Sydney is going to be the best race in the Olympics. Both at peak form.

[@jasonmcgarvey3012]

Ah! The 1980s Communist Bloc: Back when men were men, and so were the women.

[@Vatsuggggg]

lol

[@nico_c_]

Lmao

[@firelordplayz]

It seems that fashion hit, as so many others, have returned.

[@triathlontimmy]

Michael - I mean Michelle - Obama approves this comment

[@SunsetNova]

😂😂😂

[@Elliottklassen]

The old Cold War era women’s records across the board have been damaging to women’s athletics. It hasn’t plagued the men the same way because doping is much less effective for male athletes than female, but people are less engaged with women’s athletics directly because nobody has touched those world records. It’s very bad for the sport.

[@bonthecuber]

I think drugs are almost certain. It should be broken by now with all the improvements in the sport of running.

[@trowelstone]

Fair play to her for having the balls to run so quickly 😂😂

[@tomperkins5657]

BAD!!! (but good...)

[@finalelement1]

😂😂

[@Slapthematwrestling]

That dude was really crushing those girls in the race at the start of the video! Good for him that’s awesome. 😂

[@triathlontimmy]

Lia Thomas approves this comment

[@timames4405]

Drugs. Look at her physique. More testosterone flowing through her veins than the average man.

[@elistewart1780]

I mean, what did we learn from Lance Armstrong? Its not just first place using PEDs, its the top half of finishers. She tested negative at the time by the governing body, like her competitors, just like Usain Bolt or Eliud. Hope we can see someone come in strong and break this world record in my lifetime!

[@atomknight8361]

There are a couple athletes closing in on the 400m record, but the 800, 100, 200 records are so far off even with the insane athletes and technology of today, idk if it's possible

[@elistewart1780]

@@atomknight8361 maybe they will soften drug testing, I don't know what the governing body will do with the rules. If they do though then I could see athletes hit these times again

[@abubenadem]

Why mention Bolt or Eluid but not FloJo!?

[@elistewart1780]

@@abubenadem I couldn't list all the names but yes Flojo could be added too

[@craighenry2351]

Athing Mu. What is she, 19 or 20 and she has already run in the 1:55’s! She’s not even close to her prime yet.

[@hcronos]

She's so fast she's sweating steroid 😂

[@darthsilversith667]

She’s so fast shes a man..

[@charmsly9506]

​@@darthsilversith667😂

[@rebelgreen2398]

After the race, she went to the Miami Dolphin's training camp for a spot at outside linebacker.

[@marknorris1381]

And then she rolled Arnie at Mr Olympia.

[@SpotlessLeopard]

I asked her for an interview and she said no, I'm busy throwing anvils through the moon.

[@JoshuaJohnson-uq6pq]

To be honest if you can set a record that has not been broken or even close to being broken, you are either a really good runner or a really good druggy and know how to hide it. No matter if she really did cheat this is a great accomplishment that has stood the test of time.

[@kovy689]

I’d be more surprised if anyone was natural…

[@mikepriverguy]

That is ludicrous😮

[@njfasteddie6093]

@@mikepriverguy I agree with you completely!

[@TheFluffyTRex]

"No matter if she did cheat this is a great accomplishment".. .Ehh no.. If she cheat it is not an accomplishment at all. It's utterly disgraceful. Not only did she take the attention away from other clean athletes in her own races. She has prevented people from having a. real chance of achieving a world for more than 40 years. Cheating will never be an accomplishment. There's nothing impressive by taking drugs.

[@hynekjanousek7887]

I do not agree. She needed to be both. It is not an "either or alternative" as people commonly imagine. Especially not in 80's and 90's. Otherwise, you would have a lot of doped 800m female runners beating her time in the last 40 years.

[@RobertJohnson-bj5lk]

Steroids Steroids Steroids. ‘Nuff said. I think the only reason why Mr. TRP continues to upload videos on obviously PED created world records is so that we will are continuously argue the same Totally Obvious point. Voluminous arguing in the comments section dramatically helps boost TRP’s videos in the KZbin algorithm. So I’ll say it again. Nearly every world record in track and field is a PED world record.

[@Patspigeonhole]

2024 Olympic champion was about 3.5 seconds slower than this time, 41 years later. I’ll never believe this was a clean WR.

[@milliondollarart]

tell me how many WRs are/were clean xd

[@Patspigeonhole]

They started a more rigorous PED testing program in 1989. One suspected reason for Flo-Jo’s sudden retirement in February 1989 after obliterating the 100m and 200m records at the 1988 Olympics and seemingly at the top of her game. I think all records set before 1989 need to be taken with a grain of salt, not to say they are all dirty but the ones that no one has approached in the last 35 years stink to me. Nutrition, training, even footwear have come a long way in 35 years and most other records continue to be improved on but the ladies 100m, 200m, 400m, 800m and 4x400 meter relay are stuck in time. The American 4x400 relay got so close to beating the Russian WR from 1988, I was really hoping one of these suspect WR would fall forever and be put to bed but alas, 0.10 slower, even with a generational athlete like Sydney on the team.

[@milliondollarart]

@@Patspigeonhole most athletes are/were covered by their national anti doping agencies. Russia was just prime example of how it looks like when it's covered by state. I doubt that we would/could see someone to beat any records from 80-90 without using a new form of PEDs or technology doping.

[@loco4731]

olympics finals are very rarely run to beat records. they are run to win...

[@cazaloo4823]

She is celebrated as a hero in Czech; profiles at every world champs, regular interviews. I was in Prague during this 2023 Worlds in Budapest and the TV commentators were still showing constant love for her during the 4s and 8s. For them, she's still the queen of the 400.

[@dorksn]

Not necessarily. They invite her to be a commentator during these events since she actually raced these distances herself. And that's fine. But not everyone here is stupid. I highly doubt her performances were clean. There is way more cheating/doping in pro athletics than everyone realises imo.

[@tomaspapak61]

Not as a hero. But with great respect for the former excellent athlete

[@justineebourgeois3420]

She’s a cheat and steroid junkie.

[@frodo5882]

Does the average Czech citizen know about her? I'd be happy to hear your answer.

[@tomaspapak61]

@@frodo5882 of course everybody knows her

[@-weedle]

Using lemmino music is an instant thumbs up for me, great video!

[@Neofolis]

In the East European countries that had State Sponsored Doping Programs, the athletes were not aware. The athletes themselves did nothing wrong and only found out that they were likely to have been part of the program decades later. They were obviously aware that they were being given things, just not aware that they were illegal, usually under the guise of nutrient supplements, etc. Where Jarmila is concerned, it probably wasn't a case of doping or a brutal training regime, it would likely have been both, as would be the case for anyone doping. Whilst doping will have a greater impact or some individuals than others, it will only work when combined with training that takes advantage of the extra strength and/or enduarnace afforded by the drugs. It is unfortunate that there are world records that were likely the result of PED use and the best clean times/distances can never receive the recognition they deserved and potentially the wealth that would have accompanied them, but the only real solution going forward would be to start with a clean slate and that could only be worthwhile once there is no way for the rules to be broken and that may never happen. It's like anti-virus software, whenever an exploit is found and blocked, a new exploit comes into play.

[@abone2pick]

Lol you’re dreaming of you don’t think she was aware of what was going on

[@Neofolis]

@@abone2pick Ok, I should have been more specific. Some athletes may have guessed that they were being given illegal substances, while others would have been more naive and accepted what they were told. What you have to bare in mind is that attitudes at the time in Communist states were very much about the people being pro state and they didn't tend to question what the state did. That has obviously changed a lot in more recent times with people having greater access to information, but if people are in a system where they put the state before themselves and have complete trust in the state, they don't tend to question what they are told.

[@andyclem400h]

Great comments.

[@craighenry2351]

If the athletes couldn’t figure it out, they have to have some of the lowest IQ’s on record. The athletes were unaware about as much as Jim Harbaugh is unaware that his own coaches were using stolen signals in games! Right, I believe that!!!!!!

[@imaristotle]

hell nah how are standing up after running that😅anyones who ever ran the 800 should understand

[@stuartwadlow9815]

Totally, I go straight to the floor

[@quentin1982]

I hope Mu or Hodkinson will break this record. But I’m more confident on the 800m indoor record for the British

[@TheForbiddenLean]

I think people are forgetting just how many Track and Field arhletes take steroids.

[@snuka123]

I always look forward to David's video and he never disappoints.

[@paulclarke7571]

He's one hell of an athlete

[@SouthernRight]

He?? I thought it was a woman running?

[@folterknecht1768]

@@SouthernRight Nope first trans decathlete in disguise.What a brave ... whatever.

[@justinstephenson9360]

One of the reasons that the WR has stood for so long is that for so long it has been assumed to be drug fuelled, that it is just so fast it is impossible to break - so no one really tries. It is possible that the barrier is as much mental as physical. What I believe is necessary to break any WR is to first believe that you can break it and then be able to run consistently somewhere close to WR pace for at least a season. When you look at the women's 800m the 1.55 barrier has only been broken 17 times and the 1.56 barrier a mere 79 times. To have any chance of breaking the WR someone would need to be running sub 1.56 repeatedly. However, I do think we may be in an era where the WR might come under challenge. We have 3 athletes who broke 1.56 last year- for most of the last 40 years we have been lucky if 1 athlete broke that barrier once every couple of years. This makes a massive difference. Up til now female 800m runners knew that running 1.57 would make you a contender for a medal at worlds or Olympics, breaking 1.57 would guarantee a medal and you would be definitely contending for gold. Now there is a good chance that running slower than 1.56.00 gets you nothing, that requires athletes to push beyond what they thinks the limits should be. Then there is friendly rivalry between Athing Mu and Keely Hodkinson who are both still young and which should push them to run faster, I expect Keely to break 1.55 this coming season and Athing to break 1.54.5.

[@MsJared1994]

That’s a strong man

[@nickmigs61]

The fact that you didn’t say “I mean, look at her.” Is both egregious and impressive. Egregious because that’s all the proof you need. Impressive because…I mean look at her.

[@Surge_Sursus]

She straight up looks like a man and is built like bodybuilder but I’m sure she’s #lifetimenatty 😂

[@leegarethbadenhorst9606]

I must agree he is definitely impressive for a female athlete.😂

[@musclesakl]

Your 'list' of top times missed Olizarenkos 1.53.43 run in 1980. Kazankina, Mineyeva and Melinte don't show up on it either.

[@eunicepadilla4513]

I believe that was the list of athletes SINCE the record was set in 1983. The previous WR was from 1980

[@musclesakl]

@@eunicepadilla4513 good catch, rewatched and heard him say since the second time ☺

[@AllInTheGame01]

The times from the eastern bloc athletes from the 70/80s from the likes of Kratochvílová, Olizarenko, Mineyeva, Kazankina, Wodars, Wachtel, Shtereva, Providokhina should all be dismissed!

[@WoolfJ35]

"vitamins" lol

[@Slapthematwrestling]

“however on this day, with the right performance, with the right fitness, right training, the right pacing,” and the right needle…he was able to run a world record time. vitamin b12 wink wink

[@elnardowebster2842]

The 80s were WILD in Athletics. FloJo, this GUY, Big Ben, the whole East Germany team, and the US covering their athletes.

[@AdamPerkinsPhD]

I watched this runner in action on TV as a kid and to be fair it was incredible to watch, partly for the phenomenal running ability and partly for the thing that was poking out of the front of the runner's shorts.

[@jreclipse]

🍾😂

[@williamverhoef4349]

Well, that was just easy wasn't it. A PhD? You should be ashamed of yourself.

[@adrianriverapr6288]

@@williamverhoef4349it’s a joke

[@jasonm3121]

Probably not too far from the truth, Adam-who can ever forget Shirley Babashoft's'(U,S SWIMMER) comment after having to flee the ladies bathroom at the Munich Olympics in sheer horror-apparently emanating from adjacent cubicles from these women -only bathrooms were voices so deep that could have qualified for bassos in an opera. She initially thought she had entered the dudes bathroom by mistake.

[@williamverhoef4349]

@@adrianriverapr6288 If it was intended as a joke, it was both obscure and in bad taste.

[@walkortalk66]

At the age of 17 I was running daily 3 up to 4km the first two laps in 1:50 min each lap in 55 seconds. I was a former powerlifter reducing my wight from 97kg into 86kg.

[@doyourownresearch7297]

cool story, bro.

[@jek6729]

Who else thought that was a man

[@Doowhtucando]

She’s got a lot of hair under her arms

[@MJW238]

Have you ever seen a female athlete before? Or really, just any short-haired woman from before 1990?

[@stevenwhite8210]

Her bollocks are the give away

[@nigelwoods3823]

That lady has a huge Adam’s apple and the bulge in her pants when she sits down….

[@barrybritcher]

I thought it was Alain prost

[@autarko]

It reminds me of motor racing like F1 where each year the cars get faster but the rules change to reduce the power and speed. Like the athletes get better training, better drugs but the testing also gets better. Only thing that stays constant is the corruption.

[@MarkJackson-wc2xh]

7:35 Adam's apple!

[@powwowken2760]

I respect the fact that you're able to consistently talk about athletes so juiced that they'd piss hot enough to melt modern testing equipment with a straight face for almost an entire video. If training or diet could give an athlete that kind of advantage then the record would've been lowered by another second by now, just like the men's 800m.

[@qle6]

Are we STILL honestly questioning the legitimacy of this record (and M. Koch’s 400m for that matter)? The entire eastern block athletics program was fuelled on drugs as mandated by the USSR. We know this.

[@robws007]

Not just the eastern block, Flo Jo's 100m & 200m records are 45 years old and if you look at photos of her between 1984 and 1988, the gain in muscle mass (and speed) is phenomenal.

[@RJ12347]

Leave Flo Jo out of it, she was natural and gifted with great technique

[@robws007]

@@RJ12347 LOL... do you still believe in Santa Claus too?

[@RJ12347]

@@robws007 No Just Jesus Christ

[@matmcquinn]

"Very soecific dose of vitamins each day" hmmmm

[@hynekjanousek7887]

There was a lot of doping at the time in Czechoslovakia. I do not doubt that. Very likely, most of her direct competitors doped as well - they were mostly from Eastern Germany and the state run system of doping there was certainly the most advanced. I am not even talking about Russians. But the amount of training punishment and body transformation she could withstand was really incredible - you must have a phenomenal talent and mentality to go through that. In her later years, she was a normal looking lady and regularly appered at youth competitions. She was a youth coach - there was nothing masculine about her. I, as a kid competing in 1500m, had problems recognising it is the same person.

[@elainekerslake6865]

Keely ran sub 1.54 last week. Two x400m with a few seconds rest between. Shes got time to take this record. When she finished in Paris 800m she was exhausted....no jogging around like the czech. Look at the diff in physique.😊😊😊

[@runkaiserrun7435]

She is literally Ivan Drago

[@stuartwadlow9815]

She would kick his ass

[@fayensu]

No one would guess this was a woman if they weren't told. Look at the picture at 4:24: "Her" neck's bigger than "her" head. A 200m athlete who had never run the 800m, pulls a muscle a few days before the 200m, muscle heals almost overnight, switches to the 800m to avoid re-injuring it, and sets a world record no one has beaten in 40+ years. Says it all.

[@woodygz9746]

She’s so obviouslt on steroids her arms alone are bigger than most male athletes

[@54321-p]

I may have commented on this before, but Kratovilova has always denied doping, but her jaw grew so big that her face became horribly affected. Many athletes like her never recovered from the doping (and many athletes were not informed, but told they were vitamins), had disfigurements, infertility and other physical and emotional problems. P.S. She was able to endure those crazy workouts because of the PEDs. There is no way that she could have maintained that level of punishment without injury. Koch and Flo Jo are strong suspects too. Just like "K", Flo Jo and Koch starting performing crazy-good all of a sudden-indications of possible PEDs, also.

[@waterwong12]

She surely was a talented young man.

[@wvuvino21]

Looking like some internally integrated Boston Dynamics SPOT Legs after the race

[@efialtes7673]

She"s still alive at 73 years old.

[@philmm64]

What about 1:53 runner Nadezhda Olizarenko (Moscow gold 1980)

[@spoookyspencer]

So much hate in these comments already! I believe she was 100% on steroids, but calling her a man and referring to her as "he" is just rude.

[@spoookyspencer]

Also keep in mind that many other elite runners have been on steroids and none have beat her.

[@JasonAtlas]

True

[@darthsilversith667]

Well.. she might not be a 100% man.. but I wouldn’t be surprised if “she” was like that one “lady” from South Africa.. the one that had to be banned because they had a lot more going on than just female chromosomes and had an advantage over the 100% females.

[@rooh5825]

"He" was 100% on steroids.

[@torunit4620]

You didn't mention, she only broke Nadezhda Olizarenko's world record by .15. Olizarenko, a Soviet runner set that at the 1980 Olympics (the one USA boycotted so many don't seem to know it existed). The Soviets had as much, or more of a systematic doping program than the Russians (and Belorussians) do now. And their Eastern Bloc associates did the same thing to try to keep up. Its all based on the philosophy that "my political system is better because my athletes beat yours" which Hitler and Putin and the Communists and we Americans subscribe to. I guess that we should model ourselves after the Kenyan and Ethiopian governments then.

[@TstanDa-Man]

First thing I thought of when watching. Dam that dude is fast

[@foilerea4170]

Exactly.

[@GSD-hd1yh]

I wonder what times Kratochvilova at her peak could have set today with all the intervening improvements in equipment and the track?

[@Husani759]

Lookin' like Bruce Gender.

[@KyChristensen]

I thought that was a dude...and I was trying to figure out what race this was cause that time is too slow for the 800 record...then he said it was the woman's...

[@sergiovjr123]

That’s a guy bro

[@amdreasmoors408]

no its a woman with a higher testosterone Level than an American man

[@fredericos4190]

For some reason this reminds me of the “Strong Woman” South Park episode 🤔 4:25

[@Tommy_007]

Thank you for making it clear that this is about WOMEN's 800 m.

[@sisekelongidi5484]

So women have balls now?

[@barrychambers4047]

Back then, did they also test for natural body testosterone or only synthetic testosterone, and their likes?

[@Bigern2998]

Stunning and brave

[@HammersWalls]

So brave.

[@OlympicShortsStories]

Jarmila Kratochvílová's record is a true legend in athletics. Even after decades, it still feels unbeatable.

[@matthiasroiss4739]

Its incredible that they didn't disqualify all the records that were set from the Eastern Block. They were all under doping and was a bigger reach than the Russian one.

[@jonnytheboy7338]

2:41 I don't get it, who's the guy in picture there

[@Samsation93]

I don't care what anyone tells me; that is a man lol. All jokes aside she's from the era of the Eastern European doping movement, so clearly she's on PED's which enables her to achieve those incredible times and to look the way that she does.

[@deanwerny1]

She was doped to next level, it wasnt her fault, it was state run and she would either take it or would be banned from competing, her parents would lose their jobs and so on. That being said, her training was absolutely bonkers. She trained every day like no one would train for one day. Im czech as well and ive competed in track and field, it is well known fact basicaly.

[@tedbearfudge]

I remember watching this, at the time i thought she ran an amazing race.

[@ricardorgomez]

I remember when I saw this 'person' run in track competitions and I believe also in the Olympics. NO ONE thought this was a real woman. Or at least, not one that hasn't been shot up with so many steroids that it would kill a small horse. And the obvious clue that she was doping came from her coach "She trains 7 hours a day...." NO WAY would your body handle that much work without major help. Even Tour de France racers have rest days.... Of course, 'she' came from a communist country where 'amateur' athletes had fake jobs, completely supported by the government and just trained all the time. That's the only reason why Soviet and East German athletes during the 80's were so invincible. That and doping. It was disgusting. I was a bit disappointed with the U.S. boycotting the 1980s Olympics in Moscow. But then again, why do you want to compete against doping professionals? The 1984 Olympics in Los Angeles where the Eastern Bloc didn't attend was much more true to 'amateur' competition. And really, just kicked the crap in spirit and vitality of the Moscow games.

[@eddiegill]

She was a beast

[@JohnnyRunsForFun]

Steroid beast

[@RonaldWilcox-s7c]

I know this is a little out there. But I think with some sprint training- faith kipyegon could give WR A shot.

[@stuartwadlow9815]

If Casta can't get near it, no one can

[@dbx1233]

At 2:40, I see a male. If she has ever given birth, we would know she is female. I'm so suspicious, I wouldn't be surprised if she was a castrated male or possibly a hermaphrodite. This photograph, too me looks a lot like Babe Didrikson Zaharias. Babe was, in her time, the greatest female athlete ever. ( I'm suspicious of her too.)

[@Slapthematwrestling]

she ran a world record time of 47.99 and this made her just one of two athletes at the time to ever run under 48 seconds? What was the world record previous? 47.995?

[@Gr3ypool]

No doubt that lady was juicing, and I am not talking about the cleanse.

[@Artyomthewalrus]

She could have had a hormonal disorder leading to male levels of testosterone production. The record she set is still that of a mediocre male runner. There is definitely something going on, but it might not be cheating.

[@Sutwang]

1:53 is nowhere near mediocre💀

[@Artyomthewalrus]

@@Sutwang Okay, mediocre or poor for professional male runners. Fantastic vs the "average" person

[@Sutwang]

Sub 2:20 is crazy for an “average person” a man can go D1 on a scholarship to a good school running 1:53

[@Sutwang]

Women’s records usually get beaten by good high school male runners, but 1:53 is insane

[@GrayHughesInvestigates]

man that dude was fast

[@Ultegra10SPD]

Plz Athing. Go get it!!! Had hoped Caster would do it but now we turn to you! Hope SML can take down Koch’s mark. Honestly if 1 of the JAM girls takes Flo off the books it is not all that bad. That 100 times looks more breezy with passage of time. -U10

[@jasonm3121]

Even as an American, I with ya regarding Flo-Jo's record-that's as dodgy as Koch"s(an unfortunate surname, possibly-if any one had bothered to check out what she may have been concealing in those shortest of shorts after all those years of steroid use) and Kratcha's.

[@roderickreilly9666]

Caster Semenya? 😆 Caster has UNDESCENDED TESTICLES!

[@joeortiz7715]

​@@roderickreilly9666 Exactly.

[@Ultegra10SPD]

@@roderickreilly9666 Sorry that’s still seems better than cheating. She is who she is. Just that quick you forgot how this women drugged herself up (allegedly) to point she was near a d00d herself. -U10

[@crosslink1493]

I'm thinking you forgot to add Femke Bol as a possibility to break the 400m WR. Get both of them (BOL and SML) in a big-time 400m race, throw in a few other hot-shots from the 400m and 200m, and it'll be a classic.

[@agstudioband]

eventhough she was drugged to the level of being practically a man, she is having a good health at age of 73 now. I was taught these guys die young..

[@wyatttilley7849]

This guy owned that race.

[@ulfanfinneriksen4643]

The statements about her crazy hard training regiment just underlines the fact she was doped. It was a great achievement even so.

[@cct7558]

That was a woman???!!!!!!!! 😮

[@migdelavega]

Just to clarify, the longest world record still vigent, was established by Bob Beamon. Long jump at Mexico City Olímpics in 1968!!!!

[@jimmybondy9450]

Jarmil Kratochvílov. That's his real name.

[@rickfrombohemia9550]

Just Kratochvil lol, we don't use this Eastern Slavic male suffix in Czech.

[@SenerS10]

Maria Mutola was close I remember.