What STOPPED These Pistons From FAILING?

[@quintinsramek9826]

Just found this channel to listen along while at work. 22 and work in a machine shop for 2 years now, so I love these videos.

[@TotalSeal]

Glad you enjoy it!

[@hughobrien4139]

My first experience with a 6.7 Cummins was a previous failure from another local machine shop. I had just switched over to diamond and cbn hones. Made a call to Total Seal and took notes. It was unnerving seeing the change in the cylinder wall surface finish. It worked. Was able to follow up with a few more 6.7 engines and bought a profilometer. When you see top rings that are just .015- .020 thicker than the oil control rings it forces recognition for change. I’ve honed on blocks since 1991 at four different shops in three separate states. There were no differences between methods or grit choices between any of them. Things have changed.

[@TotalSeal]

Thanks for sharing!

[@MrTheHillfolk]

Quite common to run across the "it's good enough we've always done it that way" ego blocking the learning of new things.

[@davelowets]

Absolutely! New ring tech REQUIRES a totally different surface finish that years ago. If you want to take advantage of the bonuses that new ring tech offers, you MUST make changes to your honing program.

[@bobirving6052]

This high RVK with good plateaus sounds so amazing that it would even be appropriate for my 85hp 4cyl daily commuter! Awesome info Lake Speed Jr and Total Seal! Appreciate you re-educating all the hard-heads! 😄

[@TotalSeal]

Right on!

[@drivinwithdrew7676]

Keep the videos coming

[@TotalSeal]

Thanks!

[@Joe4USMC]

Another great video, Lake! Thanks to you and Wagler for sharing. Great info.

[@TotalSeal]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@josephverdone7099]

Great information Lake.

[@TotalSeal]

Glad it was helpful!

[@daveyt4802]

Holding oil on the cylinder walls. Key words...

[@TotalSeal]

Right on!

[@hectorortega9131]

Now that's a knowledgeable and stoic guy he sure inspires trust. 👍

[@TotalSeal]

No doubt!

[@StuartBlake-iz6rf]

Really interesting following your technical journey to improve engine bore sealing and durability.

[@TotalSeal]

Thanks!

[@electroshreve5278]

Great information and video

[@TotalSeal]

Glad you think so!

[@steven4894]

Good info. Thanks!

[@TotalSeal]

Glad it was helpful!

[@Trev-fl1oe]

Cool vid lake.im a inline 6 lover shows how far diesels have come petty impressive.lake could you talk about bearings tech and coating.peace

[@TotalSeal]

Thanks for the suggestion!

[@Cleofizoid]

We need a video on the bottom line of 0W-8 oil on the new Toyota's. My 2024 Toyota Corolla LE I purchased last week (Mar 2024) has the "dreaded" 0W-8 sticker. This grade of engine oil is hard to find (even at Toyota dealerships) and expensive. Is 0W-16 OK to use long term? 🤔 Owners need to know.

[@TotalSeal]

Stay tuned! There is a video on the @TheMotorOilGeek channel coming soon to answer that.

[@Cleofizoid]

@@TotalSeal I just subscribed to that channel. Thanx!

[@thatguy_bern]

Very good info!

[@TotalSeal]

Thanks!

[@autonomous_collective]

Very interesting....

[@TotalSeal]

Glad you think so!

[@JC-gw3yo]

Great to see Waglers experiments.. And his piston experiments prove prove Cummins has done these experiment years earlier

[@weshilton6862]

I have learned a lot from Lake’s videos on ring and piston technology. I am building a 383 mopar to replace the 400 in my 1970 Duster.

[@TotalSeal]

Thanks!

[@davelowets]

Why not stick with the 400? Just curious.. 🤔

[@weshilton6862]

@@davelowets It is ready for a fresh bore and it will go in a Bicentennial Short Bed Dodge with 4 speed. My Dad bought the old truck in the day and it is the only one I have ever seen.

[@MrTheHillfolk]

Haha nice head gasket😂 I did that once ,on a vw diesel. It blew right out of the #3 and made a heck of a noise like i had jake brakes. It was dark out of course,and when we pulled over and looked around it wasnt obvious. So i told my buddy to bump the key. Splash, i got like a quart of coolant blasted all over my lower half. Hey i found the problem 😂 Thats when i figured out that an injector pump that would be really strong for a 1.9 was just a little much for a 1.6. Fun while it lasted until replacing gaskets all the time got old.

[@davelowets]

You hydroed it?

[@MrBilly334]

I worked with boat engines and I have take a lot of samples. Of oil. And the fuel in a most of the marine engines have 5-10% of fuel in the oil.

[@TotalSeal]

WOW!

[@MrBilly334]

@@TotalSeal if u want I can share. Some oil analysis report. Frome some outboards. I think one of the things is that they always have a 60 c thermostat. So they don’t build up so much salt in the engine.

[@NobodyUR]

@@MrBilly334what is the factor in your opinion on what causes that across the board. Environmental or operational? Just curious

[@MrBilly334]

@@NobodyUR on the mercury 450 that hade 10% in the oil that costumer. Have burn about 8000 liter of fuel in that 100h. And it is supercharged. But I’m Going to do some Moore testing

[@davelowets]

Is it because the engine never heats up as much as a passenger car engine? Or the fact that the engine sits at a high RPM level for SO much longer than a car?

[@Duramaxjon]

Very interesting. I would love to see you do a video with Guy at SoCal Diesel on Duramax engines

[@TotalSeal]

There is a video with Guy on the Engine Performance Expo channel.

[@Duramaxjon]

@@TotalSeal thanks, I’m going to watch that for sure

[@pomjug1976]

Can you advise about sealant for seal oil sump of engine.

[@davelowets]

I love Permatex Right Stuff.... Little more expensive than the regular ole stuff, but it's MUCH better. The "one minute, fill it up with fluid, and back to service" is a bonus also. It is thicker, doesn't squish out as much, and STAYS put better than conventional RTV. Try it on the China wall on your next V-8 intake job. You'll swear by it also.

[@Latuya-y1n]

Good lubricantion they usually drill oil feed yup dual oil pump ringless pistons the feed underneath

[@davelowets]

Im not a diesel guy, BUT, the fact that one can do multiple injections per combustion event, and adjust per hole with a common rail, HAS to be a HUGE advantage over the single squirt of a mechanical system... Maybe not in terms of the ultimate h.p. number, but a common rail system SURE as hell HAS to be better in terms of longevity of a big power engine.. 🤷🏻

[@AJv-kb2pc]

What do valve reliefs in a cylinder head look like? I know the circle cuts on pistons are normal valve reliefs

[@BillsGarageWorks]

How do you think this would translate to 2 strokes?

[@TotalSeal]

We are going to try it and find out!

[@davelowets]

​@TotalSeal Will be an interesting answer to find for SURE!

[@MrBilly334]

Very interesting. What happens if u have a small amount of 2 stroke oil in the fuel. ??

[@TotalSeal]

It could cause pre-ignition.

[@nerd1000ify]

In spark ignition engines 2T oil acts as an octane rating depressant. Hence pre-ignition mentioned by Lake Speed. Diesels can't pre-ignite because they don't inject fuel until they want it to ignite. Adding 2T oil to diesel fuel is common practice for vintage engines whose injection pumps can't cope with the lower lubricity of modern ultra low sulfur fuel. But it doesn't do anything for the piston and rings. The same benefits can be had by adding some biodiesel as well.

[@tonyb6821]

No one around here knows about this. Next challenge is to find a shop within 500mi that does! Shops here say "we've been doing it "this way" (old way) for 40 years with no problems... So they think! UGH!

[@bluegizmo1983]

You can hold more oil on the cylinder wall if you remove the oil scraper rings 😂

[@TotalSeal]

LOL

[@bcbloc02]

I actually I was wondering if you couldn’t just get by with a total seal second ring and running no oil rings. With boost try to blow everything back to the pan anyway maybe it would be a minimal enough amount getting into the chamber when not running hard to be ok?

[@davelowets]

James Bond smoke screen.... 😬

[@davelowets]

​@@bcbloc02Hell NO!

[@christ6370]

👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@TotalSeal]

👍👍

[@davelowets]

Ah, what the hell... 👍👍👍👍

[@rebekahfrench5747]

Won't be long and 8 to 10k rpm ranges will be the bench mark.. extracting more power and busted bits in persuit of extreme lasting power. Ceramic top and skirt coated slugs.. 😂😂

[@davelowets]

Those coatings have been around for a while already

[@rebekahfrench5747]

@davelowets but you don't see everyone using ceramic topped slugs in high output diesels.. l guess alloys have improved over the last 20yrs they hold together.. EFI has come a long way as well keeping mixtures more consistent..

[@joe-hp4nk]

BS, what dyno measures 3,000hp

[@randywl8925]

Ask Steve Morris. He measured 5007 HP on the Devil 16 engine, the V16 engine that he built ......from scratch.

[@8180634]

Lots of them, watch more engine builder and race channels. Also you can get close with math. At the drag race strip, knowing the car weight, approximate aerodynamic drag, elapsed time and trap speed, you can use that information to calculate the approximate energy required to hit those numbers, and from that you can calculate the approximate horsepower the engine is delivering to the wheels.

[@V8Lenny]

Mainline hub dyno

[@TotalSeal]

Jeremy’s dyno does…

[@davelowets]

There's dynos around that do well over 5k....