Touhou Fortress 2 - A Case Study in Parodies

[@orthografe]

Marisa is among the very few touhou character to have and use missiles, it's not such a random fit for the Soldier

[@JackieJKENVtuber]

I don't know, her being the fast, in-and-out, job done dirty kind of problem solver makes me think she'd be a better scout than anything

[@rafaelascencao6045]

​@@JackieJKENVtuberhmmm Nah Aya is a better choice for Scout...

[@JackieJKENVtuber]

@@rafaelascencao6045 good point

[@majoras_swag2]

​@@rafaelascencao6045They both have different levels of relation with wizardry. MERASMUSSS

[@Mikle_Bond]

Sakuya as Spy reasons list: 1. Both seem to be french, but the exact origin is unknown. 2. Both are well-mannered and elegant. 3. Spy is known to have a grey beard, and is speculated to have silver hair too. 4. Continuing previous point, both of them are probably much older then they look. 5. Carrying knifes and pocket watch, of course. 6. Ability to disappear in the middle of the fight. 7. Sakuya is also capable of creating another Sakuya and making it appear in front of her, which will execute a different action to that of the original, just like the dead ringer.

[@DeltaPie]

Sakuya as French? Y’know, I could support that.

[@shinoku250_gaming]

@@DeltaPie Her expertise in making the black tea specifically makes me think she's British

[@goodandfren3926]

5:11 Well , in canon both Heavy and Yuyuko have a more inteligence and knowledge what most characters suppose or think they have(Heavy with his mastery of literature and Yuyuko with he hundreds of years worth lessons and knowledge)

[@searnoe906]

one thing's for sure, great stuff comes from touhou and tf2 being friends. seeing tf2 versions of chirumiru ultimately introduced me to touhou. no need to overthink it, as we can just enjoy living in the moment

[@somefries3101]

4:59 wrong, while meiling does fit soldier in personality, soldier never has to sleep or has a chill personality, a perfect personality and skill match for soldier would be Ukko, as both are mentally stupid and destructive. Yuyuko does fit Heavy, but Keine also fits heavy in personality.

[@DeltaPie]

Personality refers more to general character traits - it's not intended to be a perfect personality match (ie. Pyro is not a vampire). It often depends on what trait you want to emphasize - parodying Soldier's love for America would lead to a Meiling parody, not an Okuu one, even though Okuu is more fitting.

[@Ubermenschgaming_]

Ukko? Who? Is that a shortened name because that's not even on the wiki.

[@somefries3101]

@@Ubermenschgaming_ Okuu, sorry

[@justasteamplayer7542]

BTW, the touhou project discord had a discussion about which classes best fit the tf2 members and their subclasses and i had an entire notepad saved let me just Scout > Marisa/Aya Soldier > Clownpiece Pyro > Mokou Demoman > Suika Heavy > Yuugi Engineer > Nitori/Yumemi Medic > Eirin on crack Sniper > Reisen Inaba/Reisen 2/Reimu (dont ask on why reimu) Spy > Koishi/Clownpiece on crack (clownpiece makes people paranoid/insane, professional spies also make people paranoid, at least thats what the discord said) subclasses Trolldier > Tewi/Cirno Fat Scout > Yuyuko/Okina Demoknight > Youmu Huntsman > Eirin but sane Boxer Heavy > Yuugi? Hoovy (if counted) > Chen/Aunn (i dont know why they put chen) Battle Engie > Nitori Ninjaneer > Also Nitori(?) Battle Medic > No. Spycrab (if counted) > Okina (because haha funny okinacrab)

[@zanwrightmfwr756]

The thing I like in these two communities is that they're the most wholesome communities I ever joined. Doesn't mean it doesn't have problems, but it is certainly the most friendly for me.

[@AllVoiceHowdy]

Yuyuko is heavy because she eats alot and she's overpowered? idk

[@Nazrinthetinyclevercommander]

Dude actually had to say canon flandre because of how twisted fanon flandre is

[@MegaFrog]

Makes a lot of sense! I hadn't considered the differences between using role-based character picks and personality-based picks. Good explanation!

[@somefries3101]

Something i want to get clear, is that Suika can actually throw grenades and be destructive when getting drunk.

[@DeltaPie]

She canonically throws grenades?

[@somefries3101]

@@DeltaPie 2 of her attacks in the fighting games consist in throwing grenades, her spellcards also look very destructive.

[@DeltaPie]

@@somefries3101 Ah, I see. I was moreso referring to the modern-day grenade rather than an energy orb explosion, but I can see how that can be interpreted as an Ability replacement.

[@Ryik]

1:28 In the fighting game spinoffs, Sanae's system card gives the user passive regeneration. It's the only system card that gives healing. (Not including Alice's card "Doll Shield" which increases your max health, which increases current health proportionately)

[@HajimeHitoshiHideo]

1:26 at the same time, mokou is is linked with fire when that's not her power justo because of her Phoenix style, her actual abilities are more like "general Magic" and obviously being an immortal Anyway really good video, keep up the good work!

[@canalwuachulero]

didnt expect this kind of analysis. i like it!!!

[@DeltaPie]

Thank you! More is upcoming!

[@disgustedcat7294]

This is a really well made video of a very niche topic

[@enzomartin4881]

Man, you sure are talkative. Good content.

[@galahadthe1st518]

TouHou Fortress 2 Cirno = Scout (both are 9 balls) Marisa = Soldier (flying methods: a broom and a fri'ing rocket) Flandre = Pyro (destroyer of worlds but have good intentions: one wants to play while the other wants to play) Suika = Demo (druncc) Utsuho = Heavy (both are from Motherland: Utsuho's right foot resembles the Elephant's foot from the Ch*rnobyl incident) Nitori = Engy (builds of course) Eirin = Medic (doctor; discovered immortality; and conducts experiment with their patients) Reisen = Sniper (pew pew) Sakuya = Spy (is French)

[@heyitsme9880]

Hmm for me Okku=Soldier Mokou=Pyro Yuyuko=Heavy

[@estanii6171]

1:31 I think this might be, either because she's from the outside world and she's got more knowledge about health in general. Or because she can do miracles

[@DeltaPie]

It is most likely the miracles, though I don't think they've ever been used to a healing effect.

[@ginger15103]

I love the nostalgia trip. It's good to see that people still remember this crossover.

[@uraccountcrashed8845]

1:13 thank you for at least acknowledging Rika. It means a lot.

[@catpatting1408]

Do you know a fanfic called: The Nine RED men Incident? Its a good crossover fic

[@washys]

great video, I'm really impressed by your knowledge of both communities! the fact that you made a distinction between canon and fanon personalities of certain touhou characters is something that most people seem to ignore sometimes. I really enjoyed watching this, keep it up

[@Plasmy271]

Respect for putting all of the videos you used down at the description

[@DeltaPie]

Only a basic courtesy.

[@StabDieTaunt14149]

I loved the part where the heavy weapons guy met reimu and said "you are the touhou, and i am the team fortress"

[@MINICUBANT]

Suika's ability allow her to makes explosion. It's even the main use in the fighting game.

[@ciel-9373]

Makes me wonder if someone will pick Clowbpiece for Soldier for....Obvious reasons

[@akumaking1]

There’s also the song “Drunk as I like” associated with Demoman.

[@Chuckfng]

Glory to the alliance

[@axslashel]

Is their a Touhou character who uses explosives? Yes, Alice with her gunpowder stuffed dolls.

[@Kaurv]

would hatate kind of work as sniper, her ability kind of being comparable with sniper being able to see far?

[@DeltaPie]

I don't know much about Hatate but that could work, although it's not her main association.

[@XziledBlog]

Well, someone forgot about the pc98 engineers, Rika and Rikako.

[@DeltaPie]

I address this briefly at 1:13 for a few frames. Since this is talking about how the fandom interacts with characters, PC-98 characters are not counted in the equation as they are not very popular. It proves to be a correct assumption as they did not show up in any parodies I found. I did not forget about them, I merely made a decision to put them out of the picture. I will say that Rika fits the TF2 engineer much better than Rikako though, as the former has very clear connection to building machinery while the latter is more a general scientist from what I know.

[@XziledBlog]

@@DeltaPie Oh, yeah, totally didn't see that, I might blinked xD

[@vodkastrats]

Awesome video :D

[@Cybrland1]

I cant believe they did rika like that

[@atk1152]

it's fun to see a character from another game series pretend another character and it's fit

[@tristantanzil5796]

cirno fortress when

[@jellydoonuts]

Momoyo is soldier because shovel

[@yuugienjoyer]

Yuyuko being replaced with yuyuko is most likely because they are both often described as fat, same thing goes with letty

[@pelinalwhitestrake3367]

But what about Clownpiece Soldier?

[@DeltaPie]

Can't say I've seen that one, but that would fall under Personality.

[@Mima_the_vengeful_spirit]

Clownpiece would match more as Scout actually.

[@pelinalwhitestrake3367]

@@Mima_the_vengeful_spirit Scout is American, but not enough American compared to Soldier or fanon Clownpiece.

[@Mima_the_vengeful_spirit]

@@pelinalwhitestrake3367 actually, Piece wears her star and stripes only as it pisses off the lunar rabbits.

[@pelinalwhitestrake3367]

@@Mima_the_vengeful_spirit I said fanon, not canon. In canon, you're right. In fanon she will blow up your house because America.

[@takenname8053]

Nice

[@irRaydiate]

Mamizou is best spy because she also smokes

[@phillyarrowood7868]

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