Tourists Behaving Badly? | Casting Off Ep 029

[@Vitoandolini13]

When I traveled the world in the Navy I always took pride as an acting ambassador. I left 90% of social media in 2016 when I came to the conclusion is wasn’t social but actually the opposite

[@followtheboat]

I left Facebook a couple of years ago and it's the best thing I did. I don't miss that BS one bit.

[@AirnFire1111]

Already seen this episode. Commenting on this video to help your channel. Lol 😉

[@davidmersiovsky]

I agree with your opening point. Of the thousands that love watching your channel, my guess is that 30% have never been on a boat, 60% are local day sailors, 3% are cruising the world, and .05% may end up at some of your spots over the next 10 years. It's great. And besides, the kind of people that end up going to the remote tourist spots via your channel are going to be sensitive and respectful to the places they go.

[@followtheboat]

I hope so, David. It takes an effort to get here so you're already mindful of the delicate infrastructure, the nature, the different culture. That said, there'll always be idiots, even on sail boats 😁

[@OceanCruisers]

Thanks for the shout out guys! I just listened to this podcast ✌

[@mickeyfactory]

Great insight, and information. I love your channel. Thanks for taking me along.

[@followtheboat]

Thanks for watching, Les 👍

[@iGod4053]

Thank you for the many descriptions of the places of interest at the ports and anchorages that you have visited in Indonesia. I'm a solo sailor currently at Pangkor, Malaysia. I intend to sail West to East through Indonesia during January-March 2024. Australia is my final destination. Your vlogs have been most enjoyable and extremely helpful with my own passage planning. Love Esper's ketch rig.

[@followtheboat]

Cheers, Ian. We may yet head up that way ourselves. Say hi to James and Ros for us!

[@jessicanaser2939]

Very good podcast! Thank you for sharing all your information. I always learn so much watching your channel.

[@FunsongsMusicByPeterRahill]

170th subscriber LIKE; 1,598th desktop-traveler view: which is my first reply to the title and content of this episode - I particularly tune in for the footage (drone is best) of the remote areas you go, where I'll never otherwise see. 2nd - you both speak clearly & succinctly enough that I can watch much of the dialog portion at 1.75 KZbin speed-up option, and not miss anything. Thanks for sharing your adventures. Cheers.

[@followtheboat]

You're very welcome. Thank YOU for your regular comments. 🙏 Liz

[@FunsongsMusicByPeterRahill]

42:25 - great idea for an old-guy T-shirt: "Don't Touch The Ancient Things!"

[@followtheboat]

Haha! That's got my name on it. 🤪 Liz

[@waynedahl6904]

I often watch you while I cook or do dishes. My wife wonders why I take so long. Your videos are long🤪 Thanks.

[@followtheboat]

I do love cooking and youtubing. There's got to be a word for that...

[@trevhedges]

I personally don’t think you-tubers are a huge issue, but thanks guy’s!

[@Lana_Warwick]

you-tubers don't put a gun to heads, but make the lifestyle look very attractive. Just start a sailing channel & viewers will fund me sailing my family around the world, even tho I've never sailed a day in my life

[@followtheboat]

Cheers, Trev 😃👍

[@followtheboat]

Relying on KZbin to fund a cruising lifestyle is a really, really bad move.

[@Lana_Warwick]

@@followtheboat Yep, seeing a lot of new channels lately openly admitting it though, even with a loan, comparing it to RV, just work while travelling, etc. They film themselves dragging anchor, bouncing off other property, perhaps thinking it gets increased views. Others having to rescue them. Plus the negs mentioned in this vid.

[@dallaspowwi6682]

You did a great job on the video. I almost feel can’t say that after you mention me at end of video but I appreciate the video. Thanks for great content.

[@followtheboat]

We always appreciate your feedback and if it's interesting, we'll read it out!

[@samaipata4756]

Most sailors and some other tourists are sensitive, responsible, respectful to other cultures and avoid negatively impacting wildlife and nature. But the vast majority of tourists are not, that's why I'm in favour of not disclosing locations which are still virgin!

[@followtheboat]

It's a fair point. Many of the locations we explore are difficult to get to anyway so only the most adventurous would get there. Hopefully the effort required to get there will be a reminder for them to treat it with respect.

[@Lana_Warwick]

@@followtheboat However, some see sailing easy & safe, due to the lifestyle portrayed by most sailing channels. With result of unsafe nil experience, similar dis-respect they have for their homeland, Indigenous. I went Blue water to get away from RV riff-raff, now there out here.

[@jeromehebert3184]

interesting conversation and view points

[@followtheboat]

Cheers, Jerome. What's your take?

[@BrianM0OAB]

I wonder if some of these influencer's that go look where I am swinging the camera about whilst still keeping themselves in the frame, walk about off camera whilst carrying a vanity mirror out in front of them ?

[@followtheboat]

Check out Joeybtoonz, linked in the comments. He does a video of clips of people practising their poses in secret (in public). They are unaware they are being filmed, which makes it all the more ironic.

[@BrianM0OAB]

@@followtheboat I've seen many of these on Twitter in their original format, weirdo's and nutters are what's making our society a crazy world, guess the latest craze not entered his video editing yet, and thats two err masked turds entering random homes and being confrontational with the home owners, or walking up to random people saying you want to die, it's getting sick out there and will only end badly for some.

[@jimturpin6503]

I wish travelers would adopt the backpacker ethic of leave no trace behind.

[@Lana_Warwick]

but like all things, not all backpacker live/travel by that ethic, good & bad

[@followtheboat]

I agree, it's a good ethic to travel by, Jim. Sadly there will always be good travellers and bad travellers, no matter how they travel.

[@clairepapadatos1116]

Stop at about 23.00, You really have made a good point, Liz, with the maybe weird but true comparison to Cornwall! When a place becomes popular with tourists, the local folk, who might then have a 'wonderful chance of having different (underpaid) employment' within (serving) the tourist industry, only to have to come to terms with the fact that they can't afford to live there anymore, as, in the case of an island, surely prices would rocket for land, people would sell and move away, or just become engulfed in the tourist industry! If handled very carefully and responsibly, an enviromently/ eco-friendly type of tourism could maybe be carefully introduced, with benefits for the islanders without any negative 'side effects'!😊 All love and best wishes to you both, Claire, Tommi the rescue dog, and now Amber the rescue cat! Your new 'Sofa Crew'😂❤

[@followtheboat]

Most people who live on these islands don't own property, so have nothing to sell, I'm afraid. We're talking about a pretty basic life here. Hope you're doing well! Liz 🙏

[@nooneanybodyknows7912]

Liz, I love your rants and how Jamie circles the wagons back around. You and I are like minded and see eye to eye on many subjects. Influencers are the reason I don't click. I'm not interested. I simply move on.

[@followtheboat]

If she had her way it'd be one hour of ranting 😅 Mind you, on the subject of 'influencers' that's understandable.

[@stevenplancich6449]

Social Influences turn me Off…Worthless to the Nth Degree😜

[@followtheboat]

They're influencing the wrong people for the wrong reasons 🤷

[@danielwardin3609]

Again, a fast forty minutes on a fair Sunday morning. Your point early on is valid: I'm guessing that 80% of your viewers live in the western hemisphere, do not sail and will never see the far East, thus you are only _corrupting_ the _uncorruptible_ like me! Thanks again, guys!

[@followtheboat]

Yes, most people will never visit these places so I don't see the problem with our kind of vlogging.

[@amandad7121]

I think you're both interesting and nice to look at. But I'm older too and favour substance over style any day.

[@followtheboat]

Thanks, Amanda. Of course we still feel young, but in KZbin terms we're ancient!

[@amandad7121]

@@followtheboat 🧡

[@amandad7121]

@@followtheboat same age group as me, some people are adventurers I guess, some are not.

[@prankishsquire2663]

I have family in Samoa and I still can't afford a charter in the South Pacific. I have a niece from Cambodia and a sister from Vietnam and a Chinese Brother-in- law, and You guys and I still can't get there. But the BVI's with Brady and Blue, Nikki Henderson, Dan and Kiki, and Eric AAndrada, wow! 11 boats 7 days sign me up. Fek the Tourists and the locals I'm 71 I go where I can. LOL

[@prankishsquire2663]

Oh, and my nephew just married a beautiful young woman from Columbia where I crewed for Nike Steiger on SV Johna down the Pacific side of Columbia in 2019. LOLs of Laughs and Rum. Now I have family there. HE he he.

[@prankishsquire2663]

White Spot Pirates May 2019. I think 4 or 6 episodes Nike called us the wrong way crew, watch it.

[@followtheboat]

Sounds like you have the right attitude to life, Bub. Go where you can!

[@Lana_Warwick]

Clap Clap from 42:15. Doesn't matter if u promote or not, others will, therefor others will follow, incl those who'd normally RV, see a sailing channel, believe it's just as easy/safe, some care little about local culture, environment. Local government attempt to deter riff-raff via increase pricing, = the good cruisers, & local retailers, punished due to the bad.

[@followtheboat]

There will always be one bad apple but I think cruises on the whole are good people.

[@followtheboat]

Liz here (belatedly!) Had to find out what is at 42:15 - ah yes, my rant. You can tell how much touching wildlife and cultural sights winds me up. Haha! It started when I watched idiots climbing on Rodin's statue in Paris to get a photo of themselves with "The Thinker" (this was before selfies). Then when I returned to India to find much of the Agra Fort roped off because too many tourists had defaced the walls of Shah Jahan's place of incarceration. Then a yachtie chasing and terrorising a blue-spotted stingray in the shallows just to see if he could touch it. Tosser. Liz

[@amandad7121]

Some people resent the freedoms, experiences and the life you have.

[@followtheboat]

That's for sure, and not just on social media. It's so disappointing. Why do people feel they need to compete and compare? We all need to find the joy in our own lives without measuring ourselves against friends, family or complete strangers on social media. 😃👍 Liz

[@amandad7121]

@@followtheboat I know Liz, its so disappointing. I've met many people with more freedom who do things I'd love to do. But I have to say I feel envy but never this nasty jealous need to pull people down. It just inspires me to get out there too. Some people are just not suited to change and adventure sadly, and it must make them feel weak when others do what they feel they can't. You two inspire me. I do get out their with and without my partner, on my 30 foot yacht and motorbikes....but my passion is sailing and the sea.

[@rayhume1971]

Calling someone an influencer while denying that they are influential is delicious.

[@followtheboat]

It's become a generic term that's lost its true meaning, methinks.

[@sailingwiththeerros9139]

Neither of you are old nor ugly. Experience is never an ugly look. These "untouched" areas have no idea what "progress" brings. My State has a few UNESCO world heritage sites and the locals pay the same as the tourists to enter.

[@followtheboat]

"Experience is never an ugly look". I like that quote!

[@nooneanybodyknows7912]

LaVagabonde has been sailing there. Did you happen to cross paths?

[@followtheboat]

No, they're heading in a different direction atm. We did send them a message but haven't heard back from them.

[@aaabbb1579]

I am ambivalent to this tourism craziness. I do think, people need places to let steam off, relax, misbehave, get drunk and party, a gated community like a resort or even a whole city or village that separates them from the locals and preserves peace of the rest of the country. It provides jobs and infrastructure development, and those places are aeasy to avoid for normal people. It is gets bad if a whole economy is focussed on tourism and basically becomes a disneyland folclore zoo. I understand people want to see the world but have not the time nor the money, only few privileged can afford doing it without cheap organized mass tourism. A new way around is unfortunately to embrace the vagabond lifestyle without the social risk ending up as a poor a homeless begger by using the internet like Instagramm, KZbin and Patreon to get paid for it, but you have to deliver attractions on a weekly base. It is not a problem if few people do it, but it becomes an avalanche snowball problem, because there are too many lining up for a free ride or at least a photo of the places their idols were..

[@followtheboat]

My impression was that Phuket suffered badly during Covid because so many people relied on tourism. Way too many IMO.

[@Somemaysayso]

Thought provoking. We didn’t choose to start life in the west and you can’t really choose the simple rural life abroad wherever you want. Can be difficult to buy land etc and not really part of the culture. getting a boat and sailing around the world is the closest we might be able to get and that is if we do well enough to choose that life. Hope this banal comment helps the channel anyway.

[@followtheboat]

I think you may be right. Travel by slow boat allows for a more immersive experience in new places. Thanks for the comment! 🙏 Liz.

[@prankishsquire2663]

Riley and Elayna are me and my wife 35 years ago, you guys could be me and my wife right now. I say show me everything I can only do a few of them I'm 71 frikken years old. Love you guys.

[@followtheboat]

In my head I'm younger than all these KZbinrs 😁

[@BoatDawg]

I think the locals will be like the rest of us, some want the money from tourism and others not so much.

[@followtheboat]

Yes, I think that's a fair assessment TBH, John.

[@Outrageousconduct]

Famous for being famous ,no more actually Hollywood actors and actresses now we have reality celebrities,IG celebrities,tiktok celebrities,youtube celebrities, yeah I'd say so word has been cheapened ,especially when they post pictures of them living the life of Riley,not actually working for anything they get in life ,

[@followtheboat]

Sounds like you'd appreciate Joeybtoonz! Check out the link in the description.

[@stevebutterworth1937]

Just visit with RESPECT and go home with memories that might just introduce their culture into yours … and have a réalisation of why you went away from the shit you live with at home!

[@GaryDean]

"gili gede", you got "gili" right; "gede" is pronounced *almost* like an australian "g'day". gili means island, gede (bali+java) simply means big.

[@followtheboat]

Potato, tomato 😁

[@prankishsquire2663]

I think you are both adorable.

[@followtheboat]

Are you watching the right video 😜

[@prankishsquire2663]

@@followtheboat Damn right I am. Several of them.

[@prankishsquire2663]

Im booking tomorrow Odessy Flotilla Dec 9-16 this year. It's your fault your not in the BVI's

[@danielwardin3609]

Just had a gander at joeybtoonz. Thanks again.