Leveling VS Lifting - Pros and Cons

[@rafaelsantiago7359]

Bunch of haters and most of the ones talking crap don’t even own a truck 🤣🤣

[@pudermcgavin4462]

Those who don't own a truck just shake our heads like wtf. You lifted stupid pushed out wheels losing towing and still can't off road just wow the stupid is strong with truck ownwrs

[@jamesegsmith]

Haters gonna hate 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@Vikturus2k6]

Puder, I’m lifted, offset and 35s, I toe and off-road... Seems like your 89 civic with the fart can can’t even beat a truck in a race. 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@robinthrill3r7]

@@pudermcgavin4462I'm running a 7" lift with 35s and I tow, haul and move crap just fine 👌 No regear or engine mods either...

[@chicoonyt3948]

Fax💯

[@donttellmeicant]

Couldn't focus on anything he said because I was too distracted by the brown belt with the black shoes lmao Still a great video tho! Solid content!

[@myboy051]

Bradley Silvestro - pretty funny comment , I’m a stickler for that !!!!

[@mckou1547]

Now I can't unsee it.

[@famousmidnight]

lol

[@hermesvalencia2187]

I wouldn't be surprised if he's wearing White 'Wilson' socks underneath those baggy pants.

[@famousmidnight]

@@hermesvalencia2187 Those southern baptist preacher pants haha so funny

[@1John3.8]

I think 2" leveling with 17/18" wheels and 33" tires is the most proportioned, aggressive, stylish, practical upgrade on newer model F-150s.

[@phild9813]

Perhaps a “miss” in the practical category, but I prefer what you said plus narrower 35” tires like the 285/75r18. I like all the clearance I can get for the off roading I do, but don’t want the various penalties of a true full lift, so I go with the tallest tires possible with the smallest amount of lift/level.

[@hectors.6891]

What about on a 1995 obs 2wd bro I can’t decide wether a 2” or 2.5”

[@Smoothy38]

I've got a 2.5" level on my 2021 xlt with LT295/70/r18, the equivalent to a 34.5x11.5" tire...and it only rubs at full lock, and just barely, could be the max payload and towing packages, but it looks and drives great

[@michaelbergeron1554]

@@hectors.6891can you even lift that?

[@truckstopcowboytruckstopco5639]

35s would make it pretty doggie too.

[@mmartinez4134]

Definitely the 2 1/2 level kit with the 35" tires looks better and not over done.

[@stevesawatsky]

agree but push the wheels out a half inch and it's perfect

[@quincy22]

@@stevesawatskycan you explain what you mean by pushing the wheels out?

[@otrstreams6935]

​@@quincy22theyre talking about offset wheels or using spacers to make them stick out

[@BamaFan1020]

Absolutely love the leveled look. Stands out just enough without being too much. Having said that I do love the Black Widow and Apex builds but practically speaking, the leveled worked better for me.

[@colby2150]

BamaFan1020 I couldn’t agree more, the leveled truck looks so much more appealing to me aswell, I love the look of the leveling kits with some meatier tires on stock wheels

[@BoopSnoot]

As an automotive engineer though, spending millions of dollars testing these vehicles under loads and on aerodynamics, it always surprises me how few people are curious why all the factory vehicles without exception come with a rake even if aesthetically people prefer a level look... we do that because it massively impacts the aerodynamics of the vehicle even when not under load (google why are all vehicles raked), and increases tow and cargo capacity on non-bagged vehicles.

[@Slayer-oq8fv]

Leveling reduces you chances of an accurate alignment, increases tire wear,strut failer,get mechanics in trouble for a come backs that out of their hands. Been working as an ASE tech for 25 yrs and happens 50 times a week, and what happens then extremely great techs get burn and quit mechanicing then your community has shops full of inexperience techs. Get a lift kit because it moves everything down you keep you factory spring rate and loose no alignment adjustments. Remember this quote if you have a leveling kit your mechanic wants you DEAD. I have run community meetings with over 500 techs and every single tech has the same thought. Your leveling kit is ruining your community's techs reputation. Think about it. Tech are not aloud to speek about this because shop owners have a stupid saying. The customer is always right. And I have a come back for that saying. If the customer was right he would an ASE cert and would be working in the stall next to me. Leveling kits should be illegal.

[@BamaFan1020]

siafu 76 K...

[@IdaKicker]

I completely disagree I think it's ugly trucks are supposed to have a rake. if you level it out it just makes it obvious that you're never going to use your truck for doing truck things like hauling or pulling. It looks like it's either broken or somebody messed something up.

[@jaytcapinpin]

I've got 3 kids I need to put through college...leveling kit it is. LOL 😂

[@Fmron55]

Same lol

[@sirdumbthicc4294]

Yuuup

[@SEVENTEENPOINT1]

It is more tasteful imo as well.

[@flman1284]

His estimate for the level is way up too... BDS level kit... $50-$60.... Alignment- $160 if that.

[@sirdumbthicc4294]

Mike Hudson yeah I got my leveling kit and alignment for around $250. I did the labor for leveling kit but took about an hour total.

[@DrSimnjanovski]

Wife said if it doesn’t fit in the garage, I can’t get it. I bought a house with a bigger garage.

[@kjgallagher4]

Would have been cheaper to get a different wife ;)

[@amac6347]

Shoulda bought a different wife

[@jayboogie7956]

@@kjgallagher4 facts

[@jayboogie7956]

@@amac6347 preach

[@garbanzofish3551]

Real man would of just bought the truck. But then again I am alone.

[@deadbambi]

I chose the 4.5" leveling kit....4.5" in the front and 2 inches in the rear on my 2018 F250 and I couldnt be happier with how it looks and rides, got 35s on the stock wheels for winter and 37s on 20x12s for the summer

[@xbocax16]

Why different tires and wheels for summer and winter?

[@cornydad]

33" tires, 2.5" leveling kit, little bit of poke of the tire outside the body for a wider looking stance.

[@michealhenderson9594]

That’s what I did to my 21 Tundra and it looks amazing

[@evanbaldwin4952]

Great video! I’ve had both a leveling kit and lift kit on my ‘11 F150 Lariat 4x4. I will say though, before buying my leveling kit 2 years ago, I was told by the shop I would be able to go to 35 inch tires with minimal scrubbing. Despite what they said, I went with 33 inch federals on 20 inch Fuels (-24 offset) just to avoid rubbing altogether, so I thought. Even with the 33’s and 2 1/2 inch leveling kit, my truck scrubbed BAD. I mean even 1/2 turn to either side was brutal. I had to do major trimming around the scrubbing locations on my fender liner and it fixed the problem mostly. Just be aware different trucks/setups will not be the same...

[@zakp7532]

Does a level change the ride quality? Any issues through time ?

[@evanbaldwin4952]

Zak P no, not at all. You only start getting a change in ride quality when you throw a lift on

[@zakp7532]

Evan Baldwin thanks for reply! I get my 2" level done tomorrow!

[@yvelf]

Just got a lariat and I do beleive the 2-1/2" leveling kit would look very good on the truck. The lift just over does it for me. Awesome vid!!! keepem coming.

[@GunsandGarsTacticalCompany]

I have my lariat sitting on a 2-1/2” leveling kit and it’s perfect

[@The_CrazyDragon]

As anyone noticed the Amazon Flash thingy at 5:36 ?

[@Staki6908]

Somebody did because it's already claimed lol.

[@wyattstephens5768]

Damn.. lol

[@nypigskin]

It’s bullshit

[@FishinWitBoogie]

I tried.. already claimed 😫

[@talesfromlastnight6109]

E34P-672TYZ-78AJ Amazon $25 gift card that was already claimed. ROLL TIDE!

[@northjerseykevin3915]

Another great video. Back in the day I had a ridiculous lift kit with 39’s and loved it but now I like the level kits. They both have there place. Thanks for the videos

[@dantecooper4705]

What’s their place I just bought my first truck and trying to make up my mind lol

[@yodawg3469]

I leveled my ram out with zero issue's with the stock uca's but finally installed some mevotech's,proper angle now.The 150 looks great leveled out with the stock wheels.

[@luisinhoens90]

I'm looking to level my 2014 Ram 1500 2WD with some 2.5" front coil spacers. Is there any noticeable impact to the ride or handling ?

[@SBG_ARMS]

How long did you wait till you got this uca’s?

[@xatasteofchaosx1457]

I have a 3” RC lift kit on my 07 Avey LT. It does wear down your other suspension components a lot quicker, mainly bushings. I’ve thought about removing it and going back to stock.

[@jamesjanisko4170]

“Here’s the leveling kit...you’re not gonna be able to see it” Cameraman zooms into the wheel well anyways

[@adamw.8354]

Leveled my truck right away after getting it. Looks so much better. 40k miles with leveling kit and no issues.

[@adamw.8354]

@Omar Cazares I still use stock 20" wheels and tires. I went with just a small block kit (I think 1.25") that mounts at bottom of front shocks. Super easy to install. That leveled the truck perfectly. That's all I was going for, I never planned to get bigger tires.

[@GolfCoyote]

Man I cannot stand lifted trucks with low pro tires and huuuuuge wheels. Looks awful in my opinion

[@jeremyherz1969]

Colin1337 yeah same I like me a meaty tire I feel like low profiles were meant for cars that are dropped or cambered ect

[@Appalachianasshole41]

I hate bro trucks

[@joshuac1364]

It looks more like a delicate toy to me

[@Jmatt777]

I agree. That look is just so kiddy high school. Leveled on 33s or 35s is a real grown mans work pickup.

[@jesseslaughter5905]

@@jeremyherz1969 ...

[@raptorrider24]

Really love the fact that y’all put BDS kits on your vehicles!! BDS is by far the best brand on the market and there’s no company that compares to the quality and warranty they have.

[@Dr.Acula787]

2:41 As a German this looks familiar to me... Joking aside, this were 9 minutes well spend and now I finally know what is the difference between Leveling and lifting and I can make an informed decision, which of this I want to do to my car. Thanks a lot! :-)

[@dakotameis7667]

Finally one comment!

[@teop7887]

My humble $0.02 : I have a 2019 w/ the FX4 and Max-Tow pkg, 20" stock rims, and was able to fit 34" tires STOCK. The key is metric vs standard tires sizes. Metric tires are narrower, therefore less chance of rubbing. I've installed 275/65 R20s (stock tires were 275/55 R20) Pirelli Scorpion, All-Terrain Plus. The metric measurement translates to 34.1" by 10.8" R20. NO LEVELING KIT NEEDED. Tires clear at full lock, no rubbing. You can find a couple of KZbin videos and posts in F150 forums on this tire size. I may level it in the future, but right now it looks fine and the tires do not poke, look nice and flush. Cheers!

[@Timespartan111]

2.5 inch front level with 2inch rear, on 35’s or 37’s with fiberwerx fenders and bedsides will make literally any truck look sick for under 3 grand and will still perform similar to stock, while allowing you to overcome any offroad obstacle other than insane rock climbing

[@One.eyedfisherman]

Just picked up my first truck, 2017 ruby red f150 xlt sport. And I cant wait to get the leveling kit and tires looks so much better.

[@cap12206]

If it’s “real easy” to adjust your headlights, then why hasn’t he done it to his own truck? Bright lights in your face sucks

[@corklj14]

cap12206 the f150 has the pitch adjustment on top of the housing. It literally is turning one screw to get back to the correct height.

[@Minnevan]

They have a big truck who cares about other driver safety?

[@1960JCRAY]

Nothing worse than a dipshit with a leveling kit that neglects to readjust the headlights.

[@johnjiii414]

Yep exactly. He’s a tool.

[@thebournlegacy5631]

JC RAY oh look, a kid who’s offended or upset by something completely minor and trivial, no surprise there 🙄

[@benjaminison564]

Leveling kit pro’s: you can fit bigger tires, gives you even clearance front to rear, if you’re in a parking garage you don’t have to worry about exceeding the max height in most cases. Cons: you will 100% west out your ball joints faster (you’ll usually have to replace them between 70k-150k miles depending on how hard you work your truck, with the level you’ll probably be closer to that 70k). Not really a con but you will not notice a difference with how smooth the ride is. Also a matter of preference but you will notice the rear end sag when hauling a trailer. Lift kit pros: you’re lengthening your suspension so any off tossing you will notice a significant difference in responsiveness, much smoother ride and are usually adjustable so you can stiffen/soften them as needed. You’ll have more options in terms of wheel and tire sizes for off road performance. You will have significantly more clearance which is great for off tossing because you won’t have as much dragging through mud/marsh. Cons: your towing capacity will be reduced, the truck is still capable, but with a higher center of gravity you will not be as stable when towing heavier loads so be mindful of that. Your gas or fuel mileage will be affected as well, you’ll notice it more with gasoline engines as your MPG is usually not as good in the first place as a diesel. You will be limited to where you can park based on ride height. Your turn radius will most likely be reduced. And this could be seen as a con(or a pro when justifying truck parts to your wife) you will almost definitely have to get new wheel and tires and possibly a stance kit. If you read all that, understand my adderal kicked in while watching this video so I info dumped on you at 8:00am. Hope this helped

[@BruceWillisiscool]

I love the leveled look. Subtle but noticeable at the same time, without looking douchey.

[@danwood468]

Sup Bruce ?!

[@BruceWillisiscool]

@@danwood468 Sup Dan

[@bamafencer12]

Yes! Leveling my truck next week!! I can’t wait 😊

[@shadowstang1980]

2019 : come meet me and shake my hand. 2020: dont touch me you might have the Coronavirus

[@KlassyKlauman]

Lolz no joke toilet paper is like gold bars now also dont sneeze on him that's the scariest thing to do right now.

[@vincentmartinez2068]

I'd take the leveling kit... Like the look, like stock ride, and truck to me would still be more useful... Would lose low profile tires on both however, not a fan of them.

[@07slowbalt]

You mean them girl tires that the Mexicans have adopted first and now blowhard white guys think its cool?

[@GhostOfAMachine]

I got 5" drop kit on my truck and it made my life so much easier

[@thetruth1.613]

I have a 2" leveling kit on my 2017 F150 and 33's. No tire rub, no change in any performance or fuel mileage and with an alignment I payed a little over $300 for everything and I'm still parking in the garage. Lift your F150 and A) park outside forever or B) build a pole barn.

[@25wsmfan56]

Truth What motor do you have and what is your gear ratio

[@thetruth1.613]

@@25wsmfan56 5.0 and a 3:55.

[@tonygarcia5081]

“The answer is yes, roll tide” 🤦🏻‍♂️ aight...imma head out.

[@jacobsebastien3910]

LSU 💪

[@brentlopez926]

Go Tigers!

[@dieselbrim]

😂😂 that’s when I turned the video off

[@MrTae254]

Lmao its crazy cause i said tha same thing #GeauxTigers 😂

[@jaredmb585]

wow... turning this off

[@theupscriber65]

I went from a stock height, full size short bed to a 6" lifted Bronco on 35s to a 7-1/2" lifted F100 shortbed (428/4-spd) on 38s to a levelled f150 to a stock height GMC diesel to a ram shortbed with a 2/4 drop to a Gwagon with 7" lift with 37s on 22" wheels back to a stock ride height old Ranger. Never owned a little truck before and it's my favorite for running around town and hauling material for projects around the house like decks and sheds. 7' bed is longer than the short bed trucks, ride height is easy to load and it's small and nimble so easy to park.

[@theupscriber65]

I forgot about my 429 swapped 1948 Ford F1 and the big block swapped into the Bronco. I fabricated all the lifts and engine mounts myself.

[@marcm8209]

Love the vid, noticed your truck you did what I did . Removed the lower front air dam, even in the manual from ford said if you plan on driving in snow or off-road it should be removed. Mostly it looks way better without out! I personally went with 2" Fox coilver front and rear, fairly inexpensive and rides awesome!

[@HomeOwnerTools]

Thanks for the info! You definitely cleared things up, a leveling kit is perfect!

[@oocombz]

Just bought a 2019 left over with the 2.5 level and the same Nitto tires already on it. My 2016 F-150 was bone stock and I have to say the level and 35's are the best thing you can do to your F-150.

[@drubrasi261]

Any major differences between ur 16 and you 19? Besides any aftermarket products? I passed up on a 19 for my 15 just because I wasn't a fan of the new grilles...

[@oocombz]

@@drubrasi261 The Sync 3 system runs a lot better than the sync 2 did not sync 2 was a bad system This is just more smooth. See I like the Honeycomb style grill on mine more than the one on my 16. Though the other girl you can get on the f-150s in the 2019 look dumb.

[@oocombz]

@@drubrasi261 Also I will say this going from a 6-speed to a 10-speed transmission will take some getting used to but honestly now that I've driven the 10 speed for about 5,000 mi I really really enjoy it.

[@drubrasi261]

@@oocombz ahhh okay. But otherwise is interior and all the basics still the same? And yes I've heard the 10 speed transmissions need some getting used to.. is there any real benefits performance wise of a 10 speed? In the future im looking at getting into a newer f150 just can't afford it right now as I bought the one i have now and with me being 19 I dont have 50k for a new one either lol..

[@oocombz]

@@drubrasi261 Yeah they didn't do too many interior changes between the 16-19. 2020 saw a few more interior changes. The 10 speed get better fuel economy and to me tows better. Congrats on your truck man.

[@justenhearn5179]

I'm not really a Ford guy.... I like my yotas but I will say you presented this video very well and very professional just with that alone I subbed. I will also say that the way you explained the difference between the leveling kit and lift kit was informative considering I'm thinking about leveling my tundra. Great job buddy.

[@ewfcowner1]

I purchased a 2017 F150 here in OHIO and it seems the previous owner had a level kit. This helped me determine this is true. Thanks for the video

[@KingofTx83]

I currently have a 2015 F150 XLT on 305/55/20 Mickey's, and it's time for new tires. After watching this I really don't know which way to go now. Lift vs Level, bigger tires for a lift...etc.. However, I do think this was pretty good information.

[@deadbang241]

I have a 2014 F150 XLT and like it’s profile just the way it is !! I don’t do much hauling but , when I do , the back doesn’t look like it’s squatting !Thanks for the vid.

[@silveradostornados6174]

Never get this done at a dealer they over charge for everything

[@IdaKicker]

Never get anything done at a dealer...

[@quantumleap4023]

Never go to a dealer period. There's a reason they're called "dealers". The house always wins!

[@austinbell1044]

@@quantumleap4023 you gotta understand they have to make money and put food on the table too

[@quantumleap4023]

@@austinbell1044 Thanks for the insight, I'll have to remember that one. I guess you can excuse just about anything with that argument. "Jeffrey Dahmer was just putting food on the table man." lol

[@heavymetaltrucking4599]

@@austinbell1044 You may go ahead and support them!!!

[@caseyblakeney3149]

Went 2’’ leveling kit and 33x12.50 all terrains on my 2021 f150 and man it looks good

[@jimmendez3510]

After the leveling kit is installed, what is the difference in the quality of the ride? Does it drive as smooth as the non modified suspension?

[@geographyinaction7814]

Levelling kits essentially lift the front end with no appreciable difference in handling. What will adjust your ride, tracking, and handling, is the larger tires that you use.

[@robramos3387]

New to trucks. If you put 2.5” in the front, do you have to raise the back as well, like 1”? Please let me know

[@Latinoboriqualp]

I chose leveling, it gives my truck a totally different look and didn't hurt my pocket...

[@hanslanda8303]

Luis Perez “totally different look” bit of a overstatement

[@FalconChief222]

and I would just bet you spend more in gas and maintenance.

[@kylebethel7299]

I did the same thing. Leveling kit different wheels and tires and took off my running boards. 100% different truck

[@FIGNAS83]

Same here. Leveling kit with 33" tires

[@snach1983]

I would say the only down side of a lift kit is once you go above 6" the vehicle starts having daily practical use issues.by no means am i talking crap about performance.i just mean the truck parking,parking garages,drive thru food places,atm use.it just get harder to do daily stuff but performance is not being criticized

[@jacaughron55]

The 35s will rub w the leveling kit ..... No u won’t have any problems w the size ....

[@screwweedtx]

jacaughron55 so what size should I get ? For a 2006 stock lariat

[@Matt_TX]

with the 2.5" level 35s will not rub on the ford wheel wells. with the 2"or smaller they will.

[@caseycallahan4438]

@@screwweedtx I’ve got 35’s on my 06 lariat. Stock ride height. Trimmed front air dam a bit, rubs a little only in reverse fully clocked

[@vickiecash148]

Thx for this video. I have been trying to decide whether to level or lift. Now, I think leveling would be best for my 16 F-150.

[@squidlebot1214]

I dont know how I stumbled across this video, but I about died "Yeah, roll tide"

[@2009mechanic]

Now lets see you pull a 26' toy hauler camper with both lift kits. Tell me how that works for ya. I did the 2.0" front leveling kit from rough country and the "leveling" air bags for the rear> Pulls a big camper just fine all day long and doesn't seem to handle any different than before.

[@gaknskk]

Best comment on here. I'm getting ready to do the same ,2" rc leveling with air bags in coil . I want to pull my 12' trailer with a 800lbs harley to Colorado and unhook and still be able to hit some trails in the mountains with my 05 Trailblazer

[@gaknskk]

Did ya stay with the stock size tires as well ?

[@2009mechanic]

Yes , I'm still running stock tires with mine as it sits pretty close to stock height anyway except for the front. All it is is a 1 inch thick spacer that goes between the bottom front strut lower mount and the lower control arm. It pushes the front end up enought to keep that small lower plastic air dam from getting smoked on a curb as you pull up to it. There are the other ones that are just a plastic ring the goes between the TOP of the strut and its mount. I have NOT tried these . I'm concerned it would add extra play between the top of the strut mount that has a bearing in it and the frame mount. There is a LOT of potential for failure at that point I think. I could be wrong. Even this simple little modification DOES change your front end alignment ,A LOT ,SO HAVE YOUR APPOINTMENT MADE BEFORE YOU DO THE INSTALL AND DRIVE THE TRUCK AROUND UNLESS YOU LIKE BUYING TIRES.

[@boostedart88]

Definitely leveling kit to not sacrifice handling, f150s handle pretty darn well even my 2002 5.4 super crew on 20s and big tire ,I travel from Tucson to Vegas all the time it grips good on the curves on the way o get to town I still make a pull never fails very solid trucks💪

[@SBG_ARMS]

Did you have to get aftermarket uca’s?

[@boston1450]

I gotta say i liked his truck over those 2 trucks. Looks awesome. Great honest info BTW

[@mdkmetz]

I’ve just started watching his videos and I find him to be a breath of fresh air is very informative and I don’t feel like he’s trying to sell me some great videos keep up the good work

[@richardmiller9698]

I can't take anything you say seriously with a lifted truck on low profile tires.

[@califpv]

Lol, you took the words right out of my mouth

[@evensbaptiste6415]

So what..... still looks nice and you still clicked on to look at it lol

[@Kburd-wr6dq]

Evens Baptiste it really doesn’t

[@evensbaptiste6415]

@@Kburd-wr6dq that's your opinion

[@Kburd-wr6dq]

Evens Baptiste nd the original commenter, so its not like I’m alone.

[@kwright-whittam2297]

Your video is super informative. I have only driven lifted trucks but decided to try leveling the newest rig. I didn't think I would like it...it's the cowgirl in me. Your video and information truly helped me make a decision. Geaux Tigers!

[@craigslistrro709]

I did the leveling kit on my F150. stayed with the 18 inch stock chrome ford wheels and 275/70/18 cooper discoverers and tinted the windows dark, It gives it just enough attitude to look cool, without garnering unwanted attention.

[@dallasbluecity8601]

Hahaha he said it won’t even fit in my garage! Lmao sir please I don’t even have a garage in the first place so yes I’m watching a video of something I can’t even afford! /:

[@drchangtorres]

I have a 2" leveling kit on my 2017 XLT 2.7L Sports package and I love it!

[@sean-yb5hc]

I actually really like them both but prefer the 3-4" lift look -IMO that's perfect with 35's

[@mauriciocastro7505]

Not sure if it was mentioned but, the lift kit means a higher center of gravity hence an impact on driving dynamics.

[@Batmanstang]

You left out a big discussion topic: the effects on payload and towing.

[@alextrainor2552]

None of those numbers change

[@BoopSnoot]

@@alextrainor2552 Yes they do, but you'll notice that all vehicles are raked, even passenger cars that have no tow rating. It has to do with underbody aerodyanmics, and leveling your truck will reduce fuel economy and highway stability.

[@MegaCityOne]

@@BoopSnoot I like the stock look. The lower front end looks sporty.

[@NuttedInYoMom]

@@MegaCityOne wth u doin here? Get back on yo purpose before u develop a scarsity mindset.

[@kenboris9235]

Where i'm from, guys that lift their trucks dont tow anything, its all for looks. Which is retarded

[@snewton89]

Awesome video! Very rare that a dealer helps with this stuff!

[@christophercatrambone227]

Does a level kit affect towing capability? Will it make a difference in the ride if you have a lot of heavy stuff in the truck bed?

[@JSingh100]

It doesn't impact the towing capability negatively

[@twiners2560]

Talking about the headlights. That hand strait out and up like that, my Polish side felt somthing

[@MJ-fj9yv]

Absolutely informative videos, good job guys. After watching the subpar quality and lack of any real brand benefits from your clips, i made a great decision and BOUGHT A TUNDRA!

[@kevinhooper8859]

Carli Pintop 2.5, best of both worlds on my 2021 Cummins Ram 2500 Megacab.

[@davidnawrocki4562]

Leveled look is great with Raptor wheels and 35" tires. Any issues with this set up fitting into a standard garage?

[@jasminebebe3455]

My RAM 2500 has a 2.75" Thuren leveling kit and 37" tires. Not super tall but extremely capable. my leveling kit is not done with spacers, but with new coils and shocks.

[@flynlow4ever]

Lowering the rear with drop shackles for leveling decreases the wheel gap and doesn't always require alignment, nor tires or wheels. Just another option ; )

[@JackWagonizer]

Definitely the way to go if your 4x4.

[@andrewnelson3603]

How do you do that?

[@tcarlson06]

What are the tires and wheels on your red truck? Can you also talk about the grill? Where is that from or what did you do to it?

[@DapimpBDSD]

"Ya, Roll Tide!" Great answer

[@rexl6930]

I agree go smaller rims not low profile on the lifted truck looks better and if you do go off road will perform much better. with that said if you are not going off road I say leveling kit with 33 in tire looks great and performs well with right tire.

[@nkyryry]

“I’ve got 15,000 miles on mine and no issues”.... ya that’s one year of driving dude. Not exactly long term use lol.

[@chunkiermango7982]

15k is 1 year well I have 60k extra

[@kevinfikes1920]

Thats fair. I have a silverado 2015 with a 2.25 level and its been on for about 40k now. Ball joints and stuff seem as healthy as day one.

[@2starweakfoot]

2004 f-150 with 138,000 leveled 2 in. still going strong and steady had her since 60k

[@bearpaw7603]

Do you guys did leveling kit just for front or back too

[@daniellau5859]

@@bearpaw7603 leveling is usually for just the front suspension. The purpose of leveling is to get the front level with the rear.

[@charlespinson6693]

Great post. I was in hopes that you would give information on towing capability or towing changes. Keep the post coming. Thank you

[@BreckoniousMaximus]

I just made a post with how a level/lift will affect towing. Basically, your axle ratio will change which will lower how much you can tow significantly, especially if you throw 35's on. If you did a level with stock tire size, then the only change will be how much your rear end sags when hooked up to a trailer and gas mileage. I would definitely purchase rear airbags if you plan on towing with a leveling kit....well...I'd put airbags on period with a leveling kit, towing or not. If you use a WDH to tow with, the level will throw that off a bit without airbags to level it out. Hope this helps and good luck sir.

[@EnthusiastCarHangar]

Thanks for mentioning the headlights. It can be a real nightmare if trucks blind you on the highway.

[@Blakehx]

If I’ve got an F250 FX4, what’s the cheapest way to lower it? The family hates climbing in and out! Thanks

[@dannyc4890]

That leveled black F150 is so clean. Shame Ford does not offer this as a FX4 package option.

[@ShersGarage]

What do you mean? FX4 is just an option you can add to any 4x4 truck. It gives you locking rear diff, skid plates, hill descent control, slightly different shocks and floor liners, AT tires. That's it.

[@lloydhendricks5370]

@@ShersGarage He means it's a shame you can't get a small lift with the FX4 from the factory

[@ShersGarage]

@@lloydhendricks5370 I see. Seems like a missed opportunity on Ford's part.

[@07slowbalt]

@@ShersGaragemy 4x4 simply lacks skid plates, and the slightly different shocks. My xlt has AT tires, rear locker, and hill descent.

[@delmar2169]

@@michiganwanderer8655 no more Cd players in 19s

[@jadawg1973]

I have a question. If I were to buy a new f150 and planned on having it lifted, does it matter what dactory suspension I buy? Am I wasting money buying fx4 or save money andy buy the basic 4x4? Thsnks.

[@mrsully8333]

Will the leveling kit void or cause problems with the warranty?

[@thankfullife7968]

Mr Sully haha no, especially when the dealer installs them

[@FLIOWA]

I have a dealer installed rough country leveling kit. No warranty issues

[@mrsully8333]

Jordan Grandgenett Coo! Thanx for the reply

[@ndfarmmanagement9545]

quick question about mileage per gallon, I remember some people said lifted or leveled trucks lose their mileage performance, if that is true, how much?

[@tundraspecialops]

Good work explaining the differences between a leveling and a lift kit. However, it's not that straight forward, and there are a lot more details that need to be shared. 1. First question to ask: What is the reason for the lift? Looks, off-road etc? This is important, because the purpose of the question determines the type of lift and wheel/tire combo a person will need. Once you decide what your needs are then you can begin evaluation of the various types and brands of lift products. 2. Types of level/lift kits: A) A LEVELING KIT as mentioned is designed to level the front of a truck with the rear. It provides the ability to install larger tires. It does not improve on or off-road ride in any way B) A BRACKET LIFT which was highlighted here, but was not actually identified, lifts the body higher above the frame. This moves the mounting points of the suspension, essentially extending them with brackets as seen on the grey truck. It is important to understand this is a lift that provides more height than a leveling kit; typically average bracket kits are from 4"-12". Because the effect of such an extreme change in the height geometry, additional suspension components are usually need to be purchased, this increases cost. One of the biggest causes of confusion is the belief this prepares a truck properly for off-road. Bracket kit manufactures and sales people alike improperly state that the increase in body height increases ground clearance. NO the body is lifted on the frame, the frame often maintains the same exact ground clearance as stock because the frame itself is not lifted. People will refute that, but mistake the difference of a gain of an inch or two is achieved when 35 or 37 inch tires are installed, not because of the bracket lift itself. C) A SUSPENSION LIFT this is what you want if you are interested in actually taking your rig off-road. So what is the difference? The difference is that suspension lifts correctly adds ground clearance, lifting the frame and by default the body, since it's attached to the frame. But the important caveat is that a suspension lift also increases articulation of the up and down wheel travel, depending on the level of performance of the selected suspension parts. This is important more than anything else and what makes a truck or SUV able to tackle rough terrain while keeping the wheels planted for needed control. Most off-road trucks typically only increase the lift by an average of 3", because that is all you need, remember, suspension lifts also increase actual ground clearance. And the 3" of lift and added ground clearance are enough to install 35" tires and get you over most terrain. So before getting a leveling kit, bracket lift or suspension lift, you have to decide what is the purpose or ultimate need for the lift. You can do a suspension lift and never go off-roading, or you can do a bracket lift and go off-roading with much less off-road performance. You can also combine a suspension and a level or bracket lift to save money, but still get some off-road performance. But a pure suspension lift will almost always be the best route if you choose to enjoy off-roading frequently. If off-roading is what you want, do it right the first time. The performance of wheels and tires weren't mentioned but they have their own rules for on and off-road. Because most factory trucks come with 20" wheels, there is a misconception that 20" wheels with off-road rubber (for off-roading) is the way to go. Can it be done? Yes, is it recommended for frequent off-roading? No. Why? Because, off-roading usually requires the need to air-down (reduce PSI) in the your tires to gain better traction. 20" wheels with 35" tires have very little tire wall to air down safely without damaging the rim if you come down on a rock or ledge. The ideal wheel size for 35 or 37" tires for off-roading is 17 or 18, preferably 17"s. 35" tires on 17" wheels have 9" of side wall to flex versus 7.5" on a 35" tire on a 20" wheel. While 1/5" does not seem like much, when you air down the difference becomes very noticeable. Often times too much wheel and too little tire cause more problems when off-roading. There is no right or wrong choice, just a need for a little more information for a person to decide what they want. If they want a level kit and go off-roading they can, if they want a suspension lift and never go off-roading they can do that too. I think the community deserves full disclosure of what's all out there.

[@Amayi1]

Wow that's very insightful I've noticed lift has been reduced to looks over performance. That never gets talked about. It usually comes to how big can I go on tires and what do I have to do to make it happen? Thanks for putting this out there everytime I search for the best lift I end up with bigger tires reasons galore. I rarely come across anything about what you need to go offroad

[@Roarmeister2]

Ha, this post has more information in it than the video! 🤣🎯

[@paulsantoro1235]

What about a 3 or 4 inch lift? Could we still use a 12in wide rim on 35 inch tires?

[@califpv]

Absolutely, i have a 4" lift on my 2016 with 35's.had to trim the front crash bars, but i get no rubbing lock to lock. 4inch lift on these newer f150's looks just perfect IMO

[@nelsontrick5660]

idea, buy a power wagon or raptor. off road ready and engineered from factory correctly with the suspension and angles for the drive shaft and axles...

[@Timshot100]

Roush and Fox 2.0 leveling kit ! I got two things a level and a stellar performance kit with a better ride ! But it's 1600 bucks and it's worth every dime

[@crpeterson01]

does a leveling kit change the mpg

[@TCcustoms_]

Not really. The larger tires are usually the culprit of the decrease in MPG.

[@jneuel3825]

Hey man....I like you, bro. Just a tip. ( the ladies will notice) When you wear black shoes, your belt should match. Shoes, belts, and watches are all supposed to match. Great video, man, really helped me understand this.

[@Cruizer40]

You can fit 35x12.50 20R on a ford stock 20" rim???

[@Jeffreymx]

Bryan Byers no. You need space wheels out a tiny bit. 1/4” does it. Buy Raptor take offs the wheels are 10mm more offset

[@Wdj-ld2gg]

I’ve got a 2.5 inch lift on my 2018 F150 w/20” rims. And want to put 35’s on them. You think that‘ll work?

[@bwilsonscuba]

Can you add 33's on a 2022 F150 2x2 with max towing package? Possibly 35's with a leveling kit?

[@djl7steve177]

RollTide. Lol now that was funny. It was out of nowhere.

[@sjb7963]

I LITERALLY just subscribed... ROLL TIDE! 🤣🤣🤣 I don’t even drive a Ford... I have a Ram but this guy is GREAT!

[@runswithsisors]

what that means is those big tires and wheels will wear out your front suspention super quick

[@93ChristineAnn]

No mention there of what I think is the biggest con to getting a list. Turning radius! Tough thing to measure but I'd guess my turning circle is now 50%+ bigger. Extremely tough getting in and out of parking spots in a lot with narrow lanes.

[@altrock86]

“If it levels out” and does a nazi salute lol jk great video

[@Lamtitude]

Christopher Kaesemeyer I thought the same thing. Lol

[@MJ-fj9yv]

😂 with that hair...yep

[@jrml2011]

Lmfao

[@swashington942]

I love it

[@AJ-nh8ik]

Soon as he did it, I had a laugh cuz I know for a fact he didnt mean for it to look that way, paused the video and came straight to the comments section to see how long it was gonna take before I found the 1st comment that mentioned this.

[@jeromemcknight3793]

Looking to purchase a 2020 RAM Limited soon. My first truck! I did not know the difference between leveling and lifting kits until now. Thank You! I prefer the leveling kit simply because I want the ability to park in my garage. Can I place 35in tires on the factory rims on the Ram Limited? Again, thanks

[@mdunhamful]

Are we just not going to mention the brown belt with the black shoes. Just saying. Well dressed 101

[@Ghotra121]

😂😂

[@ricknelson4764]

And you are watching a truck video???, the justin bieber video is next on que for you

[@mdunhamful]

Rick Nelson One way to make any truck look better.... is a pretty woman in the front seat. Fashion 101 buddy. Small basic things can help your appearance. Yes watching a truck video. However, we are watching a truck video about cosmetic changes to enhance trucks looks and appearance.... #justinbeiberrocks

[@LynxStarAuto]

mdunhamful you were looking at his buldge we get it bud. These "things" are ok these days. No need to cover it up in a circumlocutory fashion.

[@jamesegsmith]

@@mdunhamful Facts these dudes are just hating. The only reason to hate on Justin Bieber is pure jealousy. The dude seem super nice and probably gets more pussy than any of us. Over here with big trucks and tiny dicks trying to play people

[@brysonrodden5112]

I have a 2012 xlt and I did a 2in level. I am waiting for my 33in BFG ko2's and 2in spacers.

[@zakp7532]

SkinnyForeigner How's the ride with the 2" level? Same as factory or little rougher?

[@brysonrodden5112]

@@zakp7532 I replaced the shocks with Bilsteins so I can answer that. It rode pretty nice until I put the KO2's on then it becams stiffer due to the thicker side wall.

[@joefigliola2106]

6 inch all the way . I just did mine , love it

[@tnvolfan4life882]

I have a 2018 f150. I’ve ordered the fox 2.0 leveling kit. Also ordered Fuel rebel wheels in 18x9 -12 offset. What size tire should I go with?

[@hundiddy]

Real simple to calibrate the headlights yet you've never taken the time even though you've had people complain that you are blinding them? Nice.

[@SgtRudySmith31bRet]

I was about to comment the same. What a turd.

[@TyGuy506]

“Roll tide”

[@sevinstorey4365]

He’s a car salesman. Turd is his middle name

[@TheLexiconDevils]

cream pants 😐

[@billchapin2677]

Definitely like the leveling kit better!

[@Paiste18]

Lift completely kills your resale value...Leveling costs way less and you're in much better shape when you go to trade in.

[@thankfullife7968]

August especially if you used garbage rough country that would be a huge devaluation

[@carbonzo6]

August it only kills your trade in value, if you sell privately then no.

[@highrailforlife9574]

It may cost less too do but will affect your wallet more with worn struts, increased tire wear and not being able to get a proper alignment

[@ikeabrahammustang7113]

@@highrailforlife9574 I'm new to all of this but can you please explain?

[@hamdecousa1936]

Not true at All.!!

[@wj2791]

why go through all that trouble about re-torquing it later in regular interval? Where would you take your truck to do that? What would they charge for that? How would you know if that was done correctly on each time?