Toxic Tren: Victor Martinez Answers - Are There Safer Alternatives To Trenbolone In Bodybuilding?

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In a recent episode of the Generation Iron Podcast, hosts Victor Martinez, Ehsan Farahi, and Vlad Yudin delved into the world of supplements and substances commonly used in the bodybuilding community. The main topic of discussion was centered around Chris Bumstead's claim that Trenbolone (Tren) is the most toxic steroid and the availability of safer alternatives. Victor Martinez shares his thoughts on whether or not Chris Bumstead’s statement is accurate and whether or not there are “safer” anabolic steroid options.
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Please submit your questions in the comments for Vic Martinez to answer the best one and win a case of Redcon1 Energy.

[@nickbedolla7115]

victor free weights or machine an tell vald go duck

[@emadali3997]

My question to Victor is how much body fat is ideal & can you have 3 to 6% of body fat through out the year & is it dangerous or is it possible to have this body fat percentage & is body fat anywhere linked or has connection with face or body bloating

[@johnsandoval1855]

Hello! I won a case two weeks ago (fish question from Boston) and am not sure who to contact! I didn’t hear an email announced to contact in the videos. I emailed the email on the generation Iron website but haven’t received one back! Please let me know where to go next!

[@johnjohnkrause]

Vic, my question is about traveling with supplements. Is it better to use a vacation as a time to reduce supplementation; or is it better to maintain levels you have been taking. Also, how do you pack supplements when you travel, we have all been stopped by TSA for baggies of Protein. Some things about me, no competition to worry about. Usually my travels involve outdoor activities, hiking, some small workout/run at hotel. Also, I am vegans, so some vitamins, like D or B12, I need to supplement since my diet lacks these nutrients. Thank you

[@thelitos07]

Very entertaining and informative podcasts. I've read and heard about limits of protein absorption per meal, but I'd like to know if there truly is a limit to how much protein you can have per meal. Keep the videos coming fellas 🤙

[@iTzDark740]

For Tren 21:45 You’re welcome

[@jdizz543]

A safer alternative is just water

[@Richie_Alpha_Rabbit69]

That’s a natty peasants mindset .

[@user-jk3dz2st7u]

If you try to inject water you will get real fucked up 😂

[@Richie_Alpha_Rabbit69]

@@user-jk3dz2st7u no gains either

[@jdizz543]

@@Richie_Alpha_Rabbit69 it’s a joke

[@Richie_Alpha_Rabbit69]

@@jdizz543 Still something a natty peasant would say. Real men blast test and primobolon Mabye some NPP and pop some anadrol/anavar to get pumped.

[@metallicasfuel]

Whats up G.I !!!thanks for picking my question. i can totally get Big Vic a badge. Where do I send it?

[@JPow91]

Great podcast as always GI! Question first Vic ; Do you use or recommend doing supersets and/or drop sets during prep? Thanks 💪🏼

[@neilboucher2529]

I'm 48 and I used tren a few times. But now I only use 10 mg a day when I do it. Shit is too toxic

[@davidkanalos6710]

I'm 52 and was thinking a low dose of tren for my cut but no sure 😕

[@vincentcaballero6041]

What gage size when pinning shoulders , legs, and butt Chek. You know more than my primary physician, our uncrowned Mr.O. bad af ❤

[@RobertG.1986]

28

[@RobertG.1986]

To Draw is lower number bigger pin

[@RobertG.1986]

It Varys but I have heard tht ratio 28 to pin and 18 to draw or some shit like tht.

[@jacobanderson9262]

Hey, Victor and Generation Iron thanks for getting back to me. Yes, I did utilize it for a contest.

[@teddiepegues3261]

This has to be the greatest podcast of all time!!!

[@musclemachine8849]

The beginning had me 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀

[@stevegreene94]

Cbum is lying. I believe Vic on this

[@vivalarazausarmyvet4453]

I've always wonder if bodybuilders who have use(d) PEDs get worried about their own mortality whenever a bodybuilder passes away.

[@IFBBJacked]

Coming from someone who's been blasting and cruising for 10 years straight and is up to four and a half grams a week between 4 different compounds, yes we think about it all the time, but we do what we can to monitor our blood work as best we can. I get my blood work checked with a full panel every three months through my doctor. I get an EKG done and an ultrasound every 6 months on my heart. I stay away from the most harmful compounds like Tren and any water based injectables, all fat burners, methylated orals except for 25mg of anadrol pre-workout only on back and leg days to keep liver toxicity to a minimum, and stay away from any insulin use. I keep 90% of my diet clean even when bulking and take plenty of ancillary supplements. There are ways to be smart about bodybuilding and go down the safest route possible even though none of it is quote on quote "safe". You try and do the best you can to mitigate as much risk as possible while getting the most out of bodybuilding.

[@bryanstellfox8521]

@@IFBBJacked You stated you stay away from water based injectables, I'm guessing due to the risk of infection? I've really been wanting to use injectable stanozolol, as a few high level guys have told me how much better it works than oral. I've used oral winstrol several times, and it's one of my favorite compounds. Do you have experience with the injectable version? If so, any tips or advice?

[@IFBBJacked]

@@bryanstellfox8521what I do is administer it under the tongue after heating it in a syringe over a candle warmer. Makes for immediate absorption. Same result without the risk of infection.

[@IFBBJacked]

Tl;Dr: don't ever bulk on Tren. If you're going to bulk do with all of us pros do and take high Test, Deca or NPP, EQ, and HGH. If you're cutting, only use Tren if you're getting ready to step on stage and compete. If you're cutting but don't compete, don't waste your time using Tren. Use your fat burners of choice, Masteron, Winstrol, and Anavar.

[@sugartbube]

Victor crazy, don't inject it just rub it on your chest 😂😂😂😂😂

[@vladarco9723]

Another one 💪💪

[@GenerationIron]

100%

[@bobz4968]

entertaining banter

[@RonBaezclassic]

Question for victor: how much of a difference did you notice from pharm grade GH vs lab GH like the chinese kind. Do u think the serostim is that Much better for a competitive 34 yr old male. Thanks love the podcasts!

[@nickdipietro7797]

For Professor Victor, can you achieve a pro level physique with only test ?? Considering it being the safest compound.

[@gymfuckery3981]

Get on that stack

[@emadali3997]

Tren is the king of steroid however it's also the most dangerous one alot of side effects would never recommend this to beginners

[@Bodybuilding-b9n]

Hi i have question im Victor born in Puerto Rico but i live in Sanford Florida , im going to compete in Puerto Rico next year for the first time im 54 yrs old and my question is how can i build my muscles even? Like i have one bicep bigger than the other one , what can i do to make them the look the same or it doesn't matter. Thank you and a great show.💪🏽💪🏽

[@mattmuscle8249]

Great talk about bodybuilding Enjoyed it💪👍

[@GenerationIron]

More to come!

[@michael22620]

Hey Victor I dont have a question about juice but my question is remember all good times in the factory

[@aaronhenderson84]

will there be another ozempic? yes, they are called diabetic medications. insulin is one...

[@wameed_ali640]

Hi , What is the treatment for buttock muscle fibrosis due to long-term steroid injections?

[@shaijumathew653]

Victor Martinez should have been Mr. Olympia. Who dare intimidate you in gym.. Do u even care.. One of the best bodybuilder ever.. Still Looks great..

[@nosferhatu]

Can you take a low dose (100 mg weekly) of tren enanthate for life along with test ?

[@anupampaul8986]

Love from INDIA 🇮🇳 ❤❤

[@markwilliams5792]

There wasn’t much Knowledge shared here about injectable Carnitine. I’ve been brewing my own for a year now and use 1000mg daily The oral version can cause some GI discomfort and is pretty much a waste of time in my opinion especially if you are scared off but the Tmao build up that can occur The injectable is very simple to use and daily pin with an insulin syringe It does raise body temp and you will sweat a lot more during workouts It did wonders for me at helping to free up bound testosterone so you will notice a nice boost if your only on TRT or low dose test

[@jacobanderson9262]

If you can let me know where to send my address information, I would be happy to receive the Redcon One!

[@igoraranovskiy7852]

Brooos blood clot and AAA is two different things. AAA is s ruptured aorta( immediate impending doom), blot clot is clotted blood traveling from a leg usually to the lungs. There. Got my edumacation on lol

[@jamesdmiller6221]

Tell victor we want to know which steroid is the best for the body for beginners and for professional's .. We now all know which is the worst... Or as you put the crack of steroids. 💪

[@Charles-jo8ub]

Testosterone ethanate slow acting so your side effects are minimal and your body recognize test to

[@blackman9008]

tren, cut with andro and a little turanibol, thats the safest stack

[@ryilpo]

Victor get your own channel.

[@manfreakcaharambe942]

tren was hard on my prostate i made my own tren u guys Babel on to much

[@markwilliams5792]

An Animal Fat Burner 😂😂😂 Man you guys have some research to do lol We use the same Bull Carnitine the Oral Form is made from

[@sbonisontombela1984]

❤️ ❤️ ❤️

[@oneimpossibleguy1]

Natty joining the convo

[@dljcards]

Go Ducks! I see that green man.

[@voyer1999]

Turanabol?

[@zakuworks000]

Jesus, this doesn't even qualify as bro science

[@kushmuscle3259]

Tren is hot 😢

[@OG_WOLFNATION]

A safer alternative is God and praying💯🎩

[@vta3007]

Lolllll

[@purrfectioncatastrophe9065]

😂

[@ImJidionDaddy]

First

[@GenerationIron]

💪

[@martyforsprazie3193]

Linder was on so much gear no wonder why 😂

[@gavincosgrove]

Safer alternatives? Just test 🤷‍♂️

[@davidkanalos6710]

That's all I take not huge but it helps .

[@gavincosgrove]

@@davidkanalos6710 enth will do

[@martyforsprazie3193]

Promoting redcon1 singerjew lmao

[@martyforsprazie3193]

What a joke