That Time In The 90's When There Were 2 Sonic Cartoons On At The Same Time

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In this video, we delve into the fascinating world of Sonic the Hedgehog cartoons in 1993. Specifically, we'll be exploring the story behind why two Sonic the Hedgehog cartoons that aired that year, and the role that DIC played in their production.
Following Sonic the Hedgehog's debut Sega game for the Genesis in 1991 Sonic was huge.
We'll take a closer look at the classic Sonic the Hedgehog (SatAM) animated series that debuted in 1993. We'll discuss how this show captured the hearts and minds of fans worldwide, thanks in no small part to its memorable characters, exciting action sequences, and catchy theme song.
We'll also explore the lesser-known Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog cartoon that also began airing in 1993. This series took a very different approach to the Sonic mythos, and we'll examine how it differed from the other Sonic show of that year.
Throughout the video, we'll discuss the key players involved in the creation of both shows, including the production company DIC. We'll also touch on the impact that these Sonic cartoons had on the wider cultural landscape, and how they continue to be beloved by fans to this day, especially the Saturday morning Sonic the Hedgehog that has lived on through fan-created projects.
So if you're a fan of Sonic the Hedgehog, or simply interested in the history of animation, be sure to tune in and join us on this nostalgic journey back to 1993.
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[@justingoers]

I still remember watching the darker Sonic cartoon in my grandparents basement. It had serious vibe to it. It felt important, cool and urgent. Scenes from that cartoon still pop in to my head today. I loved it so much.

[@pxladk1007]

Growing up I was confused af ; I hated the daily show; loved the SatAM. For years I thought I was mixing things up. Never knew there was two separate shows.

[@loco_logic]

I was always baffled about why there were TWO Sonic cartoons starring Jaleel White, both produced by Dic, airing roughly at the same time. Thank you for answering this long-running childhood curiosity, guys!

[@JohnDoe-wq5eu]

And then just to really make things confusing, Sonic underground. The third Sonic show mad by Dic and easily the most forgettable and controversial because nobody wanted a musical version of the Sonic universe with a couple of who cares OC's. Just a confusing mess.

[@FrankieD8283]

​@@JohnDoe-wq5eu the crazy thing is at the time I hated Sonic Underground but years later I ended up liking it lol. Still like the other 2 more of course.

[@JohnDoe-wq5eu]

@@FrankieD8283 I feel like most people who do enjoy underground do so ironically. It's just not a good show, it's like they tried to take the previous 2 shows and smash them together. So it had this weird drama mixed with kinda comedy and the animation style of the more comedic Sonic show and then (awful) music. It was just a hodgepodge of stuff. Add to that a bunch of non-canon original characters that never appeared in anything else and you just have a very forgettable kind of show. The only reason I think most people remember it is because it was such a weird out of nowhere version of Sonic. It took everything people liked about the previous two shows and kind of ruined it honestly.

[@conradojavier7547]

Underground SHOULD have been Sacrifice for SATAM Season 3.

[@paulrasmussen8953]

​@Conrado Javier well a fan made season 3 is in the works

[@clevermcgenericname891]

This is low key the best documentary channel on KZbin

[@ShinySephiroth1]

Truth!

[@coreycut]

favorite show, for sure! Can't wait for Thursdays

[@TheConcertCruizer]

It feels more like a Wikipedia read off.

[@ShinySephiroth1]

@@TheConcertCruizer did you like your own comment?

[@TheConcertCruizer]

@@ShinySephiroth1 No. Why would I?

[@wstine79]

Of the two Sonic cartoons, I would prefer the dark cyber apocalypse over the slapstick one. It had a great plot and fantastic cast, especially Jim Cummings as Robotnik

[@MungkaeX]

100%. The Darker one was amazing. The slapstick one felt like any other generic cartoon, it had little beyond the character designs that screamed Sonic.

[@donutlordband24]

Jim Cummings also played the master from fallout 1

[@carlosreid51]

The freedom fighter cartoon was a lot closer to the video game than the slapstick series

[@radwolf76]

@@donutlordband24 Jim Cummings is one of those ultra prolific Voice actors who has played everything. He's the reason why Playing the Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon Game with the handicap of "Only Use Animated Movies" is not a handicap at all.

[@OtakuUnitedStudio]

Apples and oranges. One was an elementary school aimed after school series produced for syndication, the other was for preteens and older. Both accomplished what they set out to do.

[@PEHfinale]

SatAM still holds up pretty well today. That was a great show. And the Archie comic that continued from it lasted for almost 20 years.

[@Kujakuseki01]

The dark sonic cartoon was one of my favorite things as a kid and I still think about it sometimes. It was around at the same time I was getting into anime and other more mature animations. It’s really good.

[@JohnDoe-wq5eu]

The fact it's one of those shows that's left forever on a cliffhanger though really does leave me conflicted over it. Yeah it's a good show and it was a very good narrative but to leave it dangling forever is just such a crappy thing to do.

[@Kujakuseki01]

Yeah, but not like it was their fault. Pirates of Dark Water suffered the same fate.

[@JohnDoe-wq5eu]

@@Kujakuseki01 Yep, that's another good one. I mean yeah it wasn't their choice and it wasn't their fault but it just sucks that's how it happened. Any show left on a perpetual cliffhanger always leaves me kind of cold. It doesn't take away what the show did or was but it does lessen its impact because it didn't get to stick the landing. (or even get to make an attempt to)

[@editingsecrets]

@@JohnDoe-wq5eu VR.5 was brutal that way. I still sometimes wonder whatever happened to Sydney.

[@JohnDoe-wq5eu]

@@editingsecrets You'll have to excuse me, VR.5? I can almost place it but you'll have to tell me what that stands for.

[@DecoytheSkeletalBoy]

God, every glimpse into the inner workings of SEGA during the 90's always makes me question how in the world that company stayed afloat at all.

[@osubreeze]

If you haven't already - the book Console Wars only validates this comment

[@Guzwar]

@@osubreeze yep, the entire period between the end days of the Genesis, the launch and failure of the 32X, and the rise/fall of the Saturn/Dreamcast is maddening and wild.

[@sehvekah7368]

The 90's were a helluva drugs.

[@JohnDoe-wq5eu]

The fact of the matter was Sega US and Sega Japan did not just not get along but we're constantly at loggerheads with each other. The 32X should never have existed and Japan should have put their foot down but for some reason they just made one bad decision after another. Management has always been the problem at Sega. The upper management has always been the downfall of the entire company even to this very day.

[@daviddalrymple2284]

@@JohnDoe-wq5eu You can really see that Sega of America was never thinking far enough ahead, and was solely fixated on the here and now. They had to have a new Sonic game EVERY YEAR. They had to have some sort of hardware upgrade EVERY YEAR. Yes, the 90s were a very different time. This was the era when a computer which was considered "top of the line" one year would be unable to run the following year's biggest games without some kind of hardware upgrade.

[@Captain_Subpar]

Oddly enough, the Archie comics started out much closer to the light-hearted "Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog" series and then quickly shifted into being more like the "Sonic the Hedgehog" cartoon. Then, after 50 issues, they scrapped both of those and created a storyline that turned Robotnik into Eggman so it was more in line with the games. The lore of the comics - which are still on-going although now under the IDW banner - is truly bonkers.

[@JohnDoe-wq5eu]

It's crazy how dark it was allowed to get at times.They had to pull them back before things got really grim dark.

[@Therealones745]

Idw is completely different from Archie what are you talking about?

[@FrankieD8283]

​@@Therealones745 yep as much as I enjoy the IDW Sonic I wish we could have a continuation of Archie Sonic comics or atleast a true ending.

[@FrankieD8283]

​​@@Therealones745 In my head cannon I take it as the Archie sonic had another world reboot thanks to Eggman again and just none of them remember it or unfortunately the missing characters. I know that's not necessarily true but I choose to see it that way.

[@Therealones745]

@@FrankieD8283 what No! I think the Archie comics suck ass and like idw way more, as a fan of the games.

[@PantheonLincoln]

I remember both of these cartoons. Here in the UK we had a separate comic series from the Archie Sonic comics. "Sonic the Comic" being very much it's own beast. They actually did a storyline where Robotnik takes over the world, and one where they give him the look he had in Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog, and somehow made that menacing.

[@edgardeitz5746]

That was the REAL version of the Milton Knight design for Robotnik; the AoSTH version was just a stupid, rumpdy doppleganger. :)

[@effenbegee6252]

Loooooooved Sonic the Comic

[@TheWizardOfJim]

The Dark Gritty Sonic was completely skipped by ABC in my home city of Cincinnati, in favor of local programming. I was aware the show existed, because I could occasionally catch episodes when the signal was clear enough from nearby Dayton, but it honestly added to the creepy factor for me - rumor has it there's this grim, dark Sonic cartoon that you can only see through the static when the weather is right.

[@Gatorade69]

I wonder if that wad also the case where I was. I do not ever remember seeing the darker cartoon at all. Had no idea it even existed until the internet told me it did.

[@cgoblin]

You somehow always post videos of shows I vaguely recall from my childhood, but it never fails that I'm absolutely ecstatic to see them covered. Well done.

[@mymomsaysimcool9650]

When I got back from Desert Storm on the week of the 4th of July ‘91, I went to the Sears outside Ft Bragg and bought the Genesis Sonic bundle and 36” RCA TV. I still have that Genesis and cartridge and my kids grew up playing all the classics on it.

[@jsttv]

Thank you for your service.

[@XYGamingRemedyG]

See. I only remember the goofy one with scratch & grounder. I was astounded to learn later that the 2nd cartoon was even a thing. Thanks for covering this. Really appreciate your work and presentation.

[@legionaireb]

A detail you missed that was definitely worth noting: the Team Sea3on cover of Fastest Thing Alive was performed by Johnny Gioeli, the lead singer of Crush 40, the band responsible for the music of the Sonic game series since Sonic Adventure.

[@BBHood217]

Well now ain't that such a baab.

[@mechasduo004]

SatAM was my jam as 10 year old me couldn't get enough of 1) the theme song 2) the darker story and 3) how the storyline for Uncle Chuck broke my heart until he was restored.

[@sonicguyver7445]

Man, Sonic was the cornerstone of my childhood and teen years, honestly up to adulthood too. I actually got Issue 0 of the comic off the rack at a Walden Books. Then the SatAM cartoon premiered the weekend I was forced to move to a new town because my folks split up, it was a balm to me seeing my favorite videogame / comic book hero in a gritty and mature cartoon. I actually resented Adventures because it felt like a dumbed down version of the show. But long after the cartoon ended, I kept up with the comic right up to the end. It broke my heart when the comic ended, just 20 issues before it hit 300! But like most 90s kids I found the internet Sonic fan base. I mainly looked up stuff at TeamArtail for years and that was my introduction to "Original Character (do not steal)." I came up with a few myself as well as inserting the idea in my own crazy fanfics of Sonic getting a Guyver unit (hence my name). I'm even a Patreon of Team Sea3on.

[@johnhayden8666]

That's where I got my Sonic #0 too!

[@tipulsar85]

While I remember both shows, I'm more familiar with the aftermath of trying to combine the tones of both in the pages of Archie's Sonic comic. It far outlasted the shows and lasted for over 200 issues. Sonic as a franchise is very much held together by the fanbase. For further examples beyond Team Sea3on, look at the writing credits of last year's Sonic Frontiers and the entirety of 2017's Sonic Mania. Both games are fully published by Sega.

[@SeiferA2001]

7:56 For once, one of the commercials shown actually sucker punched me back to my childhood as I deeply recall seeing that dozens of times while watching adventures of

[@Mongler37]

I wonder whatever happened to the lucky kid who won that contest...

[@maxordman4100]

Terrific video! Satam still holds a very special place in my heart. I’m very happy to rewatch that series on my DVD set copy anytime. Adventures had its ups and downs. It was certainly never as good as Satam but I have a very strong fondness for it! I will certainly never forget the thrill of when I first saw the cliffhanger ending of the second season. Gave me chills the first time! That’s a favorite Sonic moment for sure!

[@bottledwaterprod]

The finger thing was probably for two reasons- Internally, Sega had a rather strict style guide illustrating exactly how to depict Sonic across games and media. Though, DIC wasn't bound to follow that and Sega of Japan already didn't like how he was looking in the show. Second reason is title screens and game boxes, where Sonic's fully fingered hands are very visible and feature him holding up a finger to indicate which game it was. Since they had just finished 2, were starting on 3, and spent a lot of time and money on those title intros, box art, and subsequent marketing- they were making sure the show and comics didn't conflict with that.

[@TheLazyShell]

It's worth noting that Russi Taylor only played Tails in the original unaired pilot for AoStH. (Which also featured Jim Cummings as Robotnik like in SatAM instead of Long John Baldry.) In the actual show, Tails was Christopher Welch.

[@matthewreynoso6904]

Good to know!

[@therealDJG]

I loved both shows as a kid but SatAM as an adult is so good. I wish it got a 3rd season.

[@CakeJerry]

The choice of that specific toy store sweepstakes for the ad break hit me like a brick wall. Iykyk.

[@Wildcat_Media]

For a while now, I thought I made up the fact that I watched that darker Sonic cartoon. I kept searching for “90s Sonic cartoon,” but all I ever found was the goofier version. I could have sworn there was a princess and a deposed king, but it seemed like the internet had forgotten about it. Or it never existed. So thanks for bringing it back up. I never knew there were two Sonic shows back then. That makes a lot more sense.

[@Idazmi7]

Same story as me. I saw that show once as a kid, and it burned itself into my mind... but when I actively looked for it, I only found the sillier show for _years,_ until I convinced myself that it had been a dream. I found it again on KZbin as a young adult.

[@NerdInked]

They have the complete series at Target. Just picked it up yesterday.

[@macuser7048]

Both shows were good for their genres and age demographic.

[@Sea-Salt]

Yeah, both of these cartoons made my childhood. SatAM will always be one of the best TV cartoons of the 90s for me, but I've also gained more of an appreciation for AoStH due to just how off-the-wall and wacky it could be (in other words: it captures the spirit of the games).

[@redshiftproductions7158]

Funny you mention the Archie Comics, you should do an episode on that. Its a pretty insane rabbit hole

[@JohnDoe-wq5eu]

What's the guy's name that I should know. The guy who took a bunch of his original characters and made it a giant mess.

[@snowqueen_8958]

​@@JohnDoe-wq5eu ken "the is my oc don't steal" penders

[@robertlupa8273]

@@JohnDoe-wq5eu Oh, he's much, much more than that. He also included a "parody" (if that's the right word) of a Holocaust poem in his Knuckles comics, just with Sonic characters/races and wanted to - but failed to - write a story about Sally losing her virginity to Geoffery, who was older than her (and she was a minor) and he admited to not give a damn about Sonic as a game character, instead treating him purely as a comic character, particularly one that he could use to insert the ideas for his rejected "original universe" comic - that's why the Knuckles comic turned out the way it did and he ALSO admitted that he doesn't approve other writers using his ideas, nor did he read other writers' work for reference (that's why there were so many plot holes and plot drops back then) *and* he denied Ben Hurst's (one of the big writers of SatAM, mostly the 2nd season) idea for the 3rd season by presenting Ben's offer in a bad light to SEGA, while at the same time trying to submit _his own_ idea for SatAM continuation (a movie called "Sonic Armageddon"; he even made a pitch video that can be found on YT). Not to mention he badmouthed Ben after the latter's passing. AND he has recently announced the release of the first chapter of his comic, "THE LARA-SU CHRONICLES" (he likes using capslock for brand names), which turns out is just a reprint of the "25 years later" storyline from Archie Sonic, just with a single page to connect it to later chapters And probably more that I can't remember. Ken is nuts.

[@JohnDoe-wq5eu]

@@robertlupa8273 I mean the man's reputation precedes him that's for damn sure. The fact he's got an ego as big as all outdoors and like you say he's completely unhinged yeah all that sounds about right from the various things I've heard.

[@btetschner]

It's incredible how well the content on these videos is organized.

[@blahlbinoa]

The Adventures of Sonic was on TV the most, but the second show I didn't even know existed until I saw it on TV during vacation. I saw it a few times at home, but there where no listings for it anywhere and it seemed like it only showed up super early in the morning or late Saturday before noon

[@meganriekki6832]

Hello Em from S3 - thanks for the shout out babe. ❤

[@MysticMindAnalysis]

My younger brother turns 30 today, and he was a Sonic mega-fan as a kid. We both loved AOSTH, though never watched SATAM when it aired. I owe a lot of my sense of humour to the pure wackiness of AOSTH, though have since warmed up a lot to the more serious storytelling of SATAM.

[@craigcharlesworth1538]

I'm glad to finally have an explanation on this because in the UK all we saw was the full run of Adventures, then Sonic the Hedgehog just popped straight into the same timeslot. The UK broadcasterse never acknowledged the change and seemed to treat it as if it were all the same show. so there was no warning that the style and tone was about to completely change.

[@RetroSegaDev]

I remember this happening on channel 4 and it confused the hell out of me

[@JohnDoe-wq5eu]

Yeah the tones are not compatible whatsoever. One is insanely lighthearted and cartoonish the other is very much more grimdark. The worst is the fact that the better version you didn't get anything even resembling a decent ending. I mean ending a series on a huge cliffhanger is just the worst.

[@IgorsDen]

I knew what was going on only because I happened to have the issue of Sonic the Comic which had a puff-piece about the two shows. I know SatAM has or had a better reputation, but at the time I preferred Adventures, and in my experience that's the general opinion of Brits around my age.

[@That1Yoshi18]

I love Satam. It's so dark, and filled with emotion. And I'm thrilled you mentioned the work of Team Sea3on. They're dedication and determination is astonishing

[@NebLleb]

SatAM is also genuinely a ton of fun. It's fully aware of the kind of character Sonic is, and so throws him into a new, darker setting whilst keeping his daring-do, wits and bravery intact. The end result? Some of the most fun you could ever have with an adventure show that also does the titular character justice (at least in Season 1, which I'm familiar with). I also dig how they actually made a reason for Sonic to use the Rings he picks up, not unlike what the film series would do in the present day.

[@glennwelsh9784]

My best Sonic memory from my childhood was winning a copy of Sonic 3 from a McDonald's sweepstakes. Early '94, McDonald's had jumped on the Sonic 3 hype train leading up to its release on February 2nd, a.k.a. "Hedgehog Day." I was 9 and enjoyed the two cartoon shows, but I didn't even own a Sega Genesis. I did log many hours of playing Sonic 2 on the demo unit at my local video store the prior summer, so I was deeply a Sonic fan. So I persuaded my dad to take me to McDonald's to get a Sonic 3 Happy Meal and enter the sweepstakes. I filled out the sheet of trivia questions on the side of the Happy Meal bag and mailed it to the enclosed address. Five months go by, and I forget about the sweepstakes. I'm outside playing with friends on a warm May day, and my sister tracks me down because a package had arrived in the mail for me. I open it and I'm thoroughly shocked to find a copy of Sonic 3 and an index card congratulating me for winning the sweepstakes. But since I don't have a Genesis to play it on, I talk Dad into buying me one for Christmas later that year as my one and only present. Fortunately enough, it was bundled with Sonic 2, so now I had both Sonic games to play on my new Sega Genesis console.

[@JohnnyDisco-bg7si]

The line about editing in the Raycon ad had me laughing right from the start. What a great primer for the rest of the episode.

[@Haysey_Draws]

As a Sonic freak as a kid i do remember being completely confused by there being 2 completely different shows and having to catch re-runs too finish the story (in the UK we didn't get the Archie comics) AND THEN got even MORE confused when there was a 3rd show based around Sonic in a band with his new brother and sister...AND THEN GETTING REALLY CONFUSED BY THE ANIME OVA THING

[@risel56]

I'm surprised you guys didn't mention Long John Baldry as Dr. Robotnik in Adventures. It's such a unique take on the character that I've yet to see anyone replicate his deliciously hammy performance. I just wish he were still around to know of his legacy despite AoStH being considered the lesser of the two shows.

[@huntercoleman460]

I think it might be for the best Baldry died before Robotnik became a hit. He probably wanted to be known more for his music.

[@TrueBackLash]

This, this right here at 05:30 is one of my favorite running gags.

[@philwatkins2800]

Great documentary, but not gonna lie was disappointed that we didn't get the Jason/Boba Fett clip with the 05:20 setup

[@deathsnitemaresinfullust2269]

This is by far my favorite channel covering the topics it covers. I could literally watch new videos from this channel for hours on end and enjoy every minute of it. 😄👍

[@XenoJehuty84]

Sonic SatAM was and still is to me the best animated adaption Sonic has ever gotten.

[@dwainsimmons3447]

Sonic x sucks

[@starsatellite2413]

For personal matters both Sonic the Hedgehog cartoon shows are good in their own right. Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog is a good saccharine cartoon show with 65 episodes in one season that's fun, sweet, and light-hearted and it has friendship, compassion, and love with the vile villain Dr.Robotnik trying to take over Mobius but Sonic will always defeat him at every turn and there's the hilarious slapstick humor that makes the show funny as well. But what I find disturbing is Sonic and Tails running all over Mobius and not having a home or place to live. Everybody should have a home and Sonic and Tails could've bought or built a home either way. Sonic the Hedgehog SATAM is great and stands the test of time which is darker and edgier than the light-hearted cartoon show Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog and Sonic the Hedgehog SATAM has drama and love in it as well. Sonic the Hedgehog SATAM is full of action, adventure, and greatness and it's based on a true story with 2 seasons and it should've gotten a 3 season a long time ago about a ragtag bunch of misfits all teaming up who call themselves the freedom fighters and living in a village called Knothole Village they call their home and they make plans to defeat and overthrow the tyrannical Dr.Robotnik that is scarier than his previous version of the light-hearted cartoon show Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog who has taken over and polluted Mobius and even though the freedom fighters have their differences they put them aside and work together to stop, defeat, and overthrow Dr.Robotnik and restore Mobius to it's former glory. Now this is more like it in Sonic the Hedgehog SATAM Sonic and Tails finally having a home and a place to live and no more running around Mobius. Sonic the Hedgehog SATAM is arguably the best Sonic the Hedgehog cartoon show that stands out and comes out on top and Sonic and Tails have a team of freedom fighters with them to save Mobius and the world.

[@velzekt4598]

You've jumped the shark. This episode is everything I've been wanting for three decades. You can't top this for my enjoyment (but I'll still watch all your future ones).

[@greggwatkinsjr.4308]

Hello Dan, just wanted to say I've been really enjoying watching Secret Galaxy, every Thursday I look forward to seeing new episodes, had no idea there was two different Sonic the Hedgehog series at the same time! 🙂

[@bullmonty764]

Like many people my age and slightly older, my exposure to AOSTH was primarily through old-school KZbin Poop, and saying that out loud made me realize that YTP is barely a thing anymore

[@happybuttersblast8334]

first off, the James dressed as Sonic Funhaus clip was awesome..... when the gang was all together for the first several years, that channel was magic.

[@A-Muse-U]

It still blows my mind these were airing at the some time. Like I can accept there were two very different Sonic cartoons but the fact they happened at the same time is so confusing for me

[@JamesWillemsStuff]

I have been summoned.

[@williamcrowe2576]

One thing I didn't know about the AoStH series was that the actor who played Dr Robotnik was also a singer on the British Pop charts. His hit song "Let the Heartaches Begin" was featured in a Sonic Shorts video.

[@JohnDoe-wq5eu]

I feel like a lot of people remember that particular version of robotnik because of KZbin poops. If you know, you know.

[@versebuchanan512]

8:15 and thus, Chris-chan was born.

[@Rych3rInLyf3]

Yep, he won that contest.

[@kevynonvideo1643]

My Sonic memory is being present at the Franklin Mills mall when my parents purchased the Sega Genesis (with pack-in Sonic 1) for my younger brother's Christmas gift that year. Then discovering their hiding spot for the present and sneaking it out for late night gaming sessions while everyone else was asleep.

[@supercrownjosie7732]

I loved Sonic SatAM back when it was airing, but it was always IMPOSSIBLE to find. Hearing that they kept preempting it suddenly throws a mystery into relief that I've been wondering about for 30 years. Thanks, gents.

[@dragonsofsaturn7391]

Gotta Go Fast! I remember reading the Archie Comics as a kid. It was a very interesting and weird transition watching both of these shows, but it was also very cool. I liked both, and got to see them both as a kid. I can't say I remember watching every episode, but I saw enough of them that I can still remember some of them now. The new movies are such a great homage to the original games and a lot of the other materials produced over the years, and I can't wait to see the third one as well!

[@EnigmaticPenguin]

I remember arguing with kids on the playground that I was watching a second, different Sonic cartoon that they were. It was kind of an urban legend at the school because of syndication in Canada where the crummier one was only airing on extended cable, which was relatively rare in most households at the time.

[@moparjoel1]

I had similar experiences but they didn’t believe me because I lived in the US on the west coast and they aired the show at 8am eastern time which was 5am my time. No one on the west coast was getting up that early to watch that show, so it’s was like a myth on the playground.

[@JohnDoe-wq5eu]

​@@moparjoel1 Then again that was true for a lot of cartoons that aired in syndication in the early morning. There was a whole lot of stuff that would show up that other people would never believe because they would never be up that early/late.

[@whargobble]

Loving the Twin Peaks reference to Bob in the background...

[@Rych3rInLyf3]

Ive waited YEARS for a retrospective on SatAM and it was well worth it. This is one of my all time favorite shows and even though its obscure to outsiders it means so much to those who loved the show and read the Archie comics for 25 years of its run.

[@Alucard-A-La-Carte]

Oh holy CRAP, I was today years old when I learnt Grounder was a MOLE robot. To this day I'm endlessly disappointed by the cliffhanger that never got resolved for Sonic Dark. That show is the first time I can remember a kid's cartoon not condescending to me. That kid saying "Prizes may vary" has lived rent-free in my head for decades now.

[@michaelgilbert5224]

I love your long breath commentary. It adds character.

[@GrantDaily]

SatAM is still the greatest cartoon ever! It's too bad that Sally and the Freedom Fighters won't show up again in Sonic media or video games due to Sega's new rules.

[@andrewcarlton6196]

What is that rule?

[@SoulcialEpiphany]

@@andrewcarlton6196It's a bit more complicated than that. The SatAM storyline "continued" throughout the Archie publication for at least a decade and 200+ issues. A combination of factors ranging from Sega of Japan taking more control over the game series' direction to one of Archie Comics' main writers(Ken Penders) suing for intellectual ownership for his contribution to the comic series that pushed the SatAM concept into the greyest of Grey Areas of the entire franchise. Once SEGA and Bioware collaborated on a Sonic RPG called Sonic Chronicles, Ken Penders filed lawsuits against all three entities on the premise that Chronicles used his ideas without compensation. This caused Archie to reboot the comic series with a new writer, Ian Flynn. Often called the Post-Genesis Wave run, Ian and a few others(including Evan Stanley, Tracey Yardley and Spazinite) were able to salvage much of the comic's lore and in turn meld it into something closer to the game series that's still praised to this day. (There's about several breakdown videos about Ken Penders floating on KZbin including a video by ComicDrake which I would recommend.) But in short, Ian Flynn is still writing for the Sonic series and has publicly reaffirmed that he and the others have plans to reimplement the Freedom Fighters into the IDW Sonic series(or games series as a whole) and is continuously pitching the word to SEGA higher-ups for the green light. Not too long ago Morio Kishimoto, who's one of the producers of the recent Sonic Frontiers game, expressed interest in bringing the Freedom Fighters into future Sonic content such as a mainline game. All of this is to say that it's not a matter of "if", but a matter of "when"; fandom discourse be damned.

[@JohnDoe-wq5eu]

​@@SoulcialEpiphany Yeah Ken Pender's is one of the worst people to ever get involved with the Sonic universe. He really did cause a lot of problems and basically forced Sega to make changes and retcon things, which sucks. I'm glad that the freedom fighters are completely basically blackballed from the Sonic universe entirely that's always good news. But it's a shame that his behavior probably guaranteed that we'll never get the official animated conclusion to the SatAm storyline which again,sucks.

[@Therealones745]

@@SoulcialEpiphany stop lying, sega has shot down his proposal multiple times. He wants them to return but they never will

[@conradojavier7547]

A Rule made Following The Penders Lawsuit.

[@cybercop0083]

That Toy Galaxy prop script is a trooper if I‘ve ever seen one

[@btetschner]

A+ video! What a crazy strategy for promoting a cartoon!

[@PaladinGaymer]

I loved Sonic SatAM. ^_^ Still one of the best shows from my childhood.

[@brandondetroitfanmichaels4325]

I remember 8-year-old me watching Sonic on Saturday mornings! And then watching the other Sonic show, after school on weekdays. I can't believe it's been 30 years!

[@thesaltyweeb]

Man these Sonic Cartoons! I remember trying to get up every weekend morning to try to watch them but its either I wake up too early or too late... and I never got to finish it... But thats the fun part about cable TV!

[@ShinySephiroth1]

I remember being so confused as a kid, not knowing it was two different cartoons 😅

[@JohnDoe-wq5eu]

One thing's for sure you knew which version because of the intro song alone and the general tone also. One was grimdark the other ridiculously light-hearted.

[@ShinySephiroth1]

@@JohnDoe-wq5eu I was never really into the show, I'd more just be changing the channels and see Sonic and be confused why sometimes it was serious and other times goofy.

[@BlackoutCreature]

When I was a kid I always thought that Adventures was meant to be a prequel to SatAM. I figured at some point Robotnik managed to get his stuff together and conquered the planet.

[@RegisBladeStudios]

I'm glad you made this. I thought I was going crazy , cause I remember mixing these cartoons up and wondering why , one was so cool and serious and next time I watched it, it was goofier. I really like the Sonic The Hedgehog Series, the weekly ... the good one :D

[@yowatchie]

Oh hell yeah I just got into this channel lately and I was hoping you'd cover the 90s Sonic cartoons. SatAM especially was my favorite series as a kid and holds a special place in my heart to this day. Not only did we get somewhat of a continuation with the Archie comics (that, while a bit of a mixed bag I love as well) we're also getting a fan-made season 3 which looks super promising.

[@jbearclowater]

The theme song from the Saturday morning one is a banger

[@SecretGalaxyTV]

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[@eddiejoewalt7746]

Spider Man unlimited Marvel Answer to Batman Beyond? or Dexter's Lab

[@banonKING]

I was always curious on why this happened. Thanks for doing this!

[@tommy516]

Did y’all ever do an episode on video game and cartoon cereal such as C-3PO’s and Pac-Man cereal, TMNT CERAL, Batman cereal, etc? Saw the box in your advert!

[@SuperEmin]

Sonic live actions are basically the Sonic X series but instead of an annoying child as a companion, we got an adult companion in James Marsden.

[@sonder420]

We're one step closer to getting an episode about sonichu. Well maybe next April.

[@NecronomiTuan]

Darker Sonic is definitely one of my comfort cartoons, but I still watch the slapstick one now and again just to jog down that memory lane.

[@MrRubyElf]

I was reaaaaally into Sonic as a kid. My first game was Sonic the Hedgehog on the Genesis, and I loved watching both of the shows. Thanks for the insight into the Sanic phenomenon!

[@michaelgilbert5224]

Love and own both. Followed the comics for years so it was nice to see it on tv back in the day

[@noahshafir7282]

The cut to James from Funhaus was a whiplash, a coalescence of two of my favourite channels on KZbin here. The best form of whiplash!

[@Sammy-34079]

sonic show is lame and trash video game shows and movies Sucks Marvel/Dc superhero shows and movies is better!! sonic is trash!

[@justinweber4977]

Up for four minutes. So didnt click quite as fast as Sonic, but confound it i loved both of these cartoons!

[@Kyvid]

I swear for the longest time I thought the dark sonic cartoon was something I dreamed and never knew it actually existed. I saw it once in reruns probably late 90s and never saw it again hence why I was floored when I finally found it a decade later while looking up other old cartoons

[@RetroFrito]

Secret Galaxy I'd love to see you cover Mysterious Cities of Gold.

[@macuser7048]

Great, now that theme song is stuck in my head.

[@theeducatedfool]

That sweepstakes clip has ominous energy

[@greenrobot5]

That robot chicken's laughter is so memorable

[@strifenineteen]

Haha hahaaa That and Grounder falling apart every episode

[@DeathByDingos]

I some how missed the Sonic the Hedgehog series but always caught reruns of Adventures. Sonic Underground was always my favorite growing up, I had just gotten a new brother and sister around that time and i thought I was cool we had that in common.

[@hackusprime]

Just watched this episode with my son, as sonic is his favorite. Thank you for that opportunity

[@slipshodaverage844]

The Adventures of Sonic was on at 7:30am, which was about 5 minutes before I had to leave for elementary school. My brother had just moved up to middle school, which started later, so watched it everyday while my mom took me to school. I was insanely jealous he got to watch it. When Saturday rolled around, and the other Sonic came on, I was incredibly confused about how the one related to the other, like I was missing something important by not getting to watch the weekday show.

[@Dairamaki]

That commercial, I can't escape. If you ever look up who won that, enjoy the rabbit hole you're about to fall down...

[@jpmiller7922]

SatAM came on at like 6am for me. And by gar, I was usually up in time to watch Cro right before it. Adventures came on before school, i used to watch it waiting for the bus. But my heart was with the SatAM show, as I also followed the Archie comics.

[@bebopwing1]

As a kid, I absolutely thought this was just one series that took a really dark turn!

[@cmedtheuniverseofcmed8775]

I'm looking forward to Team Sea3on in how they will continue SATaM past Season 2. :)

[@kaijudogirl]

I loved SatAM! When it ended and Adventures took it spot, I was confused and then ticked off. I didn’t care for it and thought it was silly.

[@netwolfe]

I was unaware that the Adventures Of Sonic was originally an every weekday thing. Maybe it did not for me in my area, maybe I was already in school when aired. Anyway, I discovered it as cartoon airing on Sunday. I am guessing at the point I discovered it the already stop making new episodes and some network was rerunning the series. I will admit I cannot be positive of that. Regardless in my head I ended up nicknaming the two cartoons as Sunday Sonic and Saturday Sonic. Thanks for sharing this bit of cartoon history. Suggestions for other cartoons to talk about: I do not well know or remembered these are, but I know a small full of cartoons that were different and I think might interesting to learn what the behind the scenes story was. What made these cartoons different is that they were based on real, but what if we made those real people into superheroes. Prostars: A team of real life sports athletes joining forces to be heroes. Basketball player Michael Jordan, hockey player Wayne Gretzky, and the man who did both baseball and football Bo Jackson. Using a mix of their sports skills and gadgets for their acts of heroics. Princess Tenko and the Guardians of the Magic: Real life stage magician know by the stage name Princess Tenko is invited to real magic. The show would also include live action clips of the real Princess Tenko teaching kids magic tricks they could do at home. Hammerman: The real life rapper MC Hammer (yet I do not think he was rapper in the cartoon) is given a pair of magical talking shoes that give magical abilities to help fight crime. If there is a more official suggestion box I can put my suggestions there if someone could point me in right direction.

[@Coltslax]

The Karate Kid and Alf joke is a bottomless well of laughter

[@LanceCorporal_Waffles]

0:42 HAHAHAHA The humor in the writing is *Chef’s Kiss

[@Xs2...]

Never heard of the 2nd one. Only The Adventures of ... one. And loved it. Together with the Super Mario Bros. Super Show / Link it was awesome to see video games on television (while not owning a console my self, back in the day)

[@Bishop545454]

I love this channel so much. I get the nostalgic feels weekly, and it really makes me feel so good that I lived during the airing of these wonderful, and at times not so wonderful, cartoons.

[@Yalamar07]

My two worlds collided as Secret Galaxy and Funhaus were in the same video. My mind has been officially blown. Thank you Dan for including one of my favorite gaming sites in you video. They need more love out in the world.

[@3Rayfire]

The Sonic Saturday cartoon was superb. It was an incredible alternate universe. And the theme song still slaps.

[@sirdaveysockrocker]

My favorite sonic moment was watching the “Saturday Morning Preview Special” on “Hangin with Mr Cooper” on TGIF where they debuted the darker Sonic show. I miss those preview specials 💙

[@gundambassexe31]

Sonic topic ! Perfect timing for my day wrap up! 💙💙💙💙🦔🦔🦔🦔🦔

[@btetschner]

I remember an episode of The Adventures of Sonic The Hedgehog where Dr. Robotnik was acquiring some types of magic stones or crystals. I remember an episode of Sonic The Hedgehog where Sonic was forced to succeed without having the ability to be so fast. I had only three Sega Games when I was younger: Sonic and Knuckles, NFL '95, and NBA Jam.

[@jonathanbynoe4375]

I wasn't big on the two versions of Sonic, but I do remember watching Saturday morning version when I was flicking through the channels and found that show. The Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog I end up watching as a repeat back in 1995 on a Saturday afternoon in the Canadian channel YTV where it air's kid shows all day.

[@Sammy-34079]

sonic show is lame and trash video game shows and movies Sucks Marvel/Dc superhero shows and movies is better!! sonic is trash!

[@moparjoel1]

I remember living in SoCal as a kid I accidentally got up at like 5am when it was still dark out and sneaking the tv on and watching the dark SatAm Sonic and being blown away because I was obsessed with the games and I absolutely hated the childish weekly version they were doin my boy Sonic all wrong. This Satam Sonic was Sonic done right. But I didn’t own an alarm clock because my mom woke me up for school, so I remember trying to concentrate Friday night after watching TGIF repeating to myself that I would wake up early enough to watch “the real Sonic” (in my eyes) but rarely did that work. I remember only catching a handful of shows because I didn’t understand that shows aired 3hours early on the west coast so we were getting screwed. I since have rewatched the whole series multiple times but it was always a rare unicorn or mythical cartoon for me and my brother growing up and I still feel that feeling when I see the shots from the show.

[@Marc_Araujo]

I really enjoyed both shows as well as Sonic Spinball and Dr. Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine for the Genesis...it was a really dope time to be a kid then.