Macross, internationally, has GOT to be the single most cursed piece of Japanese media. It's simply incredible how Japanese animation is now a worldwide enterprise complete with productions shared between partners globally - but Macross, a foundational piece of animation history, remains lost in a space fold accident.
@Darkgod7778 ай бұрын
Just like the SDF-3 from Robotech
@ThePandaProcrastinates8 ай бұрын
@Darkgod777 wait until he find out about what happened to the Megaroad from Flashback 2012...
@CloudCobra228 ай бұрын
Entropy
@rgx420s8 ай бұрын
Two words, Harmony Gold
@Q80Warlock8 ай бұрын
Well Harmony Gold can be blamed for some of that drama...lets just say that they do really honest practices in the business.
@groothewanderer94728 ай бұрын
i'm going to listen to this while playing battletech
@darkstorminc5 ай бұрын
Don't forget to break out the unseen.
@NathanHearn-ms7vv8 ай бұрын
A movie about the attempt to make a live action Robotech movie will probably be made before an actual Robotech movie.
@transformer038 ай бұрын
A movie about the behind-the-scenes of making Robotech and the legal issues surrounding it would make a better movie. If nothing else, there's a really good documentary hidden underneath all the legal drama.
@timdunnusa8 ай бұрын
Isn't that what this is?
@mnutsch818 ай бұрын
It'll be the next Jodorowsky's Dune
@mraaronhd8 ай бұрын
Shiiiiii… the third coming of Jesus will have happened by the time we ever get a Robotech movie!
@inkermoy8 ай бұрын
I just watched that movie here. kinda wandered in the middle. XD
@TerryTrowbridge8 ай бұрын
It's a shame Exo Squad didn't become just a little more popular. Loved how serious it was as a kid.
@digitaljanus8 ай бұрын
The best American homage to real robot anime for sure.
@Jebbis8 ай бұрын
It was great and kind of still holds up
@Nastyn1nja8087 ай бұрын
that shit eas banging as a kid but i still have great memories from the Robitech books
@remus25657 ай бұрын
I remember me and my brother watched it an also bought the toys from Toy's R Us.
@bigneon_glitter8 ай бұрын
_Robotech_ was appointment viewing back in the day. An epic soap opera for kids. 10 years old, I tuned in for the Rick/Min-Mei/Lisa drama first & the space battles, second
@mauirixxx8 ай бұрын
I was 10 when this came out too, and man did my brother and I haaaaaaaate min-mei, and more so hated how Rick kept shafting Lisa over her.
@ozmanoshe8 ай бұрын
Min mei was ahead of her time, she's a lot like the entitled females of the current generation. Lisa was wifey material and Rick was a prick.
@sawtooth8088 ай бұрын
@@mauirixxx And considering that it was Xor who turned out to be Lin Min Mei’s son who started the whole Robotech storyline to begin with by traveling back in time to meet his mother (Xor’s father is not Rick Hunter, but Bretai {the Xentrani alien} ) confused yet ?
@davidpyott37108 ай бұрын
I thought Min Mei was a babe
@mendodsoregonbackroads66328 ай бұрын
I was in HS and went home immediately after school every day to watch this.
@Icarusabove7 ай бұрын
34:50 I love that you cover the "unseen" since I'm a big fan of BattleTech. That part of the "history/lore" is a sore spot.
@mikylak79837 ай бұрын
As a long time fan i second this. We lost the LAMs pretty early on, I could live with that, but the Marauder, Warhammer, and Archer were just too much! (You can keep the OST series, they sucked anyways)
@RecklessFables7 ай бұрын
The only reason I heard of harmony gold is because of BattleTech. Even though I watched robotech as a kid, I never really cared for it
@mikylak79837 ай бұрын
@@RecklessFables I can understand that. Even as a full on American Otaku I'd have to say Robotech is any extremely important historical work, but just an ok anime. It was given to an American culture that was mostly ignorant of animation and not properly introduced to the correct age group to boot. It's aged about as well as one would expect from anime of the time (but watch a couple episodes next to the original G.I.joe, probably be surprising now). It was the storytelling that was so different, it just wasn't very American for the time. Transformers had a (sort of) similar beginning but was HEAVILY Americanized, made a huge difference right?
@RecklessFables7 ай бұрын
Yeah, I liked Star Blazers though :) @@mikylak7983
@katarjin7 ай бұрын
@@mikylak7983 Ah, the Marauder my love...I do like the OG design more but the current one is good.
@Dynaman218 ай бұрын
The fact that we will likely get a live-action Getter Robo movie before Robotech is proof about how badly this has all went down.
@McHaro00798 ай бұрын
And we do have Voltes V: Legacy before Robotech. And it's fantastic!
@anamorphicmind8 ай бұрын
Don't forget the wing commander movie before robotech.
@SlapstickGenius238 ай бұрын
Yay, a getter robo live action movie is coming!
@cobrapanic8 ай бұрын
Didn't one of the project leads step away from it?
@Dynaman218 ай бұрын
@@cobrapanic Yeah, because he wanted to do an original story while the rest of the crew wanted to make a 1:1 of the manga. They’re still on track to deliver the pitch trailer in March 2024.
@TurtleTrackin8 ай бұрын
Great work. Robotech/Battletech confusion always kept me away from trying to untangle it. Now I understand- it was confusing because it was confusing.
@wstine798 ай бұрын
Robotech is the show that keeps on giving to Secret Galaxy.
@pigs188 ай бұрын
And slowly erodes Dan's will to live.
@sawtooth8088 ай бұрын
The whole Robotech storyline is a timeloop (read up on the entire Robotech storyline, you might want to have something alcoholic on hand)
@alekesam8 ай бұрын
Only thing I know about Robotech past the initial three series episodes is the Jack McKinney novels. I've considered them canon for ages over the actual show because of how much heavy lifting it does to bridge the seperate series better. The last one I read was the End of a Circle, which the special kids (I forget why they were special) pulled from the past the missing fold generator from the SDF1 as they needed one in the future or something. Is that the loop you're talking about?
@sawtooth8088 ай бұрын
@@alekesamthat’s one time loop, another one is when at the beginning of Robotech:Macross when what becomes the SDF 1 crashed in the South Pacific, that was Zor putting the Protoculture in what he thought was a safe place, so he sends the SDF 1 back through the past, that protoculture was used to power the Veritech fighter jets (oops 🤦♂️)
@dennisrounds19967 ай бұрын
Imagine if Transformers found themselves in the world of a Robotech ! They’d be like WTF? Are those humans piloting….corpses!
@MonsterKidCory8 ай бұрын
Robotech was critically important for introducing me to anime in general and Macross specifically. But while I owe it a debt of gratitude for the past, I cannot help but resent it in the present. I STILL don't have blu-rays or an easily streamable SDF Macross, Macross Frontier, or Macross Delta. Get on it guys, or Harmony Gold will still be nothing more than squatters.
@christophwhiteyz97876 ай бұрын
I grew up in the 80,s I missed the ending last 7 episodes vacation 30 years later I buy DVDs 1 2 4 5 6 and watch the ending for the first time from a pawn shop. Now I'm 50 years old and I've never got to see seasons 2 and 3 and realize I'm probably gonna die before I do. I'm strongly considering watching the Japanese versions that some made English dub if they exist.
@CheetosStainedLips6 ай бұрын
I heard they are actually releasing all of Macross officially. I grew up with Robotech and loved it. Even when I got older I read the novels. Then Macross came to me via a 7th or 8th gen dubbed VHS. I watched that thing everyday for like a month. I remember being ecstatic to get my hands on Macross 2012 VHS and Mecha Graffiti. I met Carl Macek once. He was selling a VHS of the subbed Macross Saga. Seemed like a nice enough guy. It was at an anime convention called Anime East.
@encryptedprinter32898 ай бұрын
You can watch Dan Larson go from fresh-faced recruit to a grizzled, bearded veteran of the Protoculture wars. Seriously guys thanks for digging into the stratums of mud and time to uncover the strange ocean-skipping legal-wriggling history of this series.
@trunkage8 ай бұрын
The culture war have been going on aince before the 1950s What are you talking about?
@Pulmonox8 ай бұрын
@@trunkage Dude, 'protoculture' is a Robotech reference. He wasn't talking about the 'culture wars' at all. It was merely a comment about this whole fiasco that the video was about.
@mjg15448 ай бұрын
@@trunkagehe said Protoculture war, not culture war, Lol. Clueless!
@hhoop38767 ай бұрын
Yack deculture!
@DenisRyan8 ай бұрын
ENTROPY. Definitely entropy. And I was delighted to stay all the way, not just to the end of this video, but I've been here since long before that first episode of this series and look forward to still being here for future Robotech updates!!
@jroc007258 ай бұрын
been loving Robotech since I was a child in the 80s. Love Rick,Minmay,Lisa,Roy and EVERYONE else. The Macross series is the best!!!
@seeingeyegod8 ай бұрын
yeah it was the most magical coolest thing I'd ever seen in my 5 year old life
@Nonce7468 ай бұрын
I own the entire box set on dvd
@jroc007258 ай бұрын
@@Nonce746 💯
@Hibernicus19688 ай бұрын
Same here. I fell in love with the show when I first watched it back then, and I was glued to the set every morning before school, which was when our local station showed it. I have to confess, I thought the Southern Cross part was kind of "meh." It was alright, but just filler. The Mospeada part was quite enjoyable, but the Macross part was _great._ I was always thrilled when the series rolled around and they restarted the Macross part. I tried watching a release of an English language version of the original Macross series a few years ago. It had different voice actors, and it kept the original Japanese names of the characters -- Hikaru Ichijyo, Misa Hayase, Maximilian Jenius, etc. -- and I just couldn't enjoy it as much. Maybe it's nostalgia, but I still just prefer the version I grew up with. I watched the Star Blazers 2199 update to the old, 1970s Star Blazers/Space Battleship Yamato series, and it's a _fantastic_ update, genuinely better than the original, IMHO. This is how to remake an old anime series and do it right. But it made me reflect rather sadly that there's no way Robotech could get such an update, at least not the version I'd prefer. It would inevitably be a Macross only update if it happened, and that might be something most fans would rather see, but what can I say? I still prefer the Robotech adaptation I fell in love with as a kid.
@anthonykent008 ай бұрын
Robotech WAS cool. The story lines weren't just "for kids." That and the overarching story are what sucked me in.
@FPoP19118 ай бұрын
Your robotech/Macross videos were how I was introduced to you. As a 5 year old in Iran robotech was one of my earliest exposures to anime. Loved the little details compared to cartoons. Censoreship turned a lovestory at the backdrop of a war into a warstory with a vague lovestory weaved inbetween. To this day hearing pineapple salad gives me PTSD of losing a big brother figure. I wasn't ready for Rick's end at that age.
@TenNoZeorymer728 ай бұрын
"You see me now a veteran of a thousand copyright wars. My protoculture's spent at last and my Veritech's destroyed." (Thank you, BÖC)
@White-Wolf19697 ай бұрын
I see what you did there.
@phillipdry36967 ай бұрын
Love veteran of psychic wars
@ValamirCleaver5 ай бұрын
"All I want to be is a lover! Not some red-eyed screaming ghoul. Why couldn't it have picked another, To be it's killing tool?... BLACK BLADE!"
@danzielinski50367 ай бұрын
THANK YOU FOR RECOGNIZING BATTLETECH! ! ! ! I was introduced to both Battletech and Macross-Robotech at the same time in 1984 when I was 13. I love the ROBOTECH series and Love the game BATTLETECH. I have ROBOTECH Macross Saga on DVD and I still play Battletech from time to time. I have built several of the REVELL kits and have some of the PLAYMATES-MATCHBOX and DUGRAM figures. I have played the game B-tech with the original line up of MECHS as well as with latter generations of origional ideas designed, post Robotech. In fact I love the game so much that I wrote and published my own sci-fi spin On BATTLETECH and 'War of the Worlds' called "RIFT- The Telk invasion , Now on AMAZON. I only wish BATTLETECH would have been made into a series similar to ROBOTECH.
@UberNoodle8 ай бұрын
Just to drive the point home, they should have stitched together a sequence of completely different episodes of Toy/Secret Galaxy and called it one continuous saga.
@fiveoctaves8 ай бұрын
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!
@richlo88878 ай бұрын
Keep crying! 🤡
@Dargonhuman8 ай бұрын
That would have been so on-brand for this channel, I'm almost disappointed they didn't.
@UberNoodle8 ай бұрын
@@richlo8887 Um ... nobody is crying ... except maybe ...
@richlo88878 ай бұрын
@@UberNoodle Yes, you can keep crying. Robotech is the superior product!
@jn48-sc5ei8 ай бұрын
In truth, I'm not at all interested in a live action version of anything. For me, a new animated series will always be the best alternative. Thanks for the "extra-large" video Dan, and a happy new year for you and all your followers 🎉🎉Greetings from Chile ❤❤❤
@LakeLee-r1g3 ай бұрын
Agreed. I guess maybe it might be better than nothing if it jump starts new interest, but it's still just rehashing old material that we already know if they just retell the basic story again.
@jn48-sc5ei3 ай бұрын
@@LakeLee-r1g 👌👌👍👍👍
@davidkymdell452Ай бұрын
Live action would be terrible.
@rmac88788 ай бұрын
I'll always have a place in my heart for Robotech.
@aztecklover698 ай бұрын
Ditto!! The Spanish dub also has a very bad ova of a certainmarriedge u don't see on macross
@sawtooth8088 ай бұрын
@@aztecklover69 The marriage between Max Hunter, and Miriam who is a Xentrani (sp) ?
@ogrehaslayers6057 ай бұрын
As an old Battletech fan, i have a special hatred for anything Harmony Gold. Glad a Federal Judge finally put an end to their nonsense.
@WarrenCBennett8 ай бұрын
This shows the evolution of the beard, as well as Robotech. Two birds, one stone
@HH_Julius8 ай бұрын
ENTROPY 100% Thanks for this from those of us who like to watch all of the parts of the thing! (Now if you could kindly make one big compilation of the Macross things into one big video, it would be GREATLY appreciated! 😆)
@OdariArt8 ай бұрын
I love Robotech! I binge-watch all 85 episodes every few years, and it never gets old. My grandkids will have great-grandkids before a live-action movie ever comes out. Just sayin'.
@hailchristandmary6 ай бұрын
I love Robotech! My cousins and I were introduced to it as kids by my father and our uncle who watched it themselves as kids and teens in the '80s. Though has its rough edges, theres a nostalgic charm to it. I'm proud to support this franchise in anyway, purchased the blu rays and a book from it.
@salenstormwing8 ай бұрын
The only important part of the story is "Harmony Gold Sucks".
@MilitaryStyx7 ай бұрын
As a battletech tabletop player, I agree wholeheartedly.
@familiaignoro7 ай бұрын
harmony gold is a tumor
@tillerzeit7 ай бұрын
As a battletech fan yes
@user-ue3kx2tl9h7 ай бұрын
The Macross story is the Robotech story. You're an idiot if you think the one and done Macross story only failed to continue because of Harmony Gold. That third series, Southern Cross, was so bad it killed the Japanese company that made it. And to them, Harmony Gold succeeded in making it watchable, a near miracle. It took over a decade for anything new for Macross to appear in the later part of the 1990s.
@dailyqwikbytes7 ай бұрын
@@MilitaryStyx So Say We All!
@davidgannon53888 ай бұрын
29:00 - Thank GOD!! One thing about the books that drove me insane (I know, short trip) was the concept of the Veritech pilots' helmets being key to controlling the mechs, despite nothing ever being said to support that in the show.
@LakeLee-r1g3 ай бұрын
Yeah there were parts of the books that rubbed me the wrong way. I can't recall now, but I think one thing was they suggested that freaking colonel.. wolf was his name? Supposedly a super soldier war hero, everyones idol but he was a traitor and then he died pathetically to just a couple of invid that any of the main characters faced like every freaking episode... and they suggested or even said Dana Sterling hooked up with that trash? Ugh! I think that was some background info from one of the sentinels novels, but once again that was long ago so I'm not sure.
@stevemcnabb94618 ай бұрын
Thought there would be more updates on Harmony Gold lawsuits and how it lost them. Them trying to sue Big West to gain more control over the IP and how they sued Battletech again and ended up losing to them with prejudice giving Battletech their mechs back permanently.
@BrooklynRedLeg8 ай бұрын
They didn't lose to Piranha Games. They settled out of court. This is obvious if you paid attention. Basically Piranha paid HG (and Tats, BigWest, SN) enough money to make them go away with certain stipulations.
@Dinidan8 ай бұрын
The Mech redesigns look more industrial and I love it.
@stevemcnabb94618 ай бұрын
@@BrooklynRedLeg the judge also ruled that the lawsuits vs Catalyst and battletech (HG tried to claim the Atlas as part of the PGI suit) has no merit with the new settlement agreement and dismissed any litigation with prejudice over the unseen
@BrooklynRedLeg8 ай бұрын
@@stevemcnabb9461 - When you settle out of court, you ask a judge to vacate. That's WHY its settled out of court. There is a contract and money obviously changed hands. BigWest was about to enter the lawsuit. That was what the Letter of Rogotary was going to ask for and once BW/SN (who, btw, DEMANDED Harmony Gold defend their mutual IP rights), Piranha was going to get its ass shredded, since BW/SN retained the Authorial Rights (as in the rights to make Derivative Works) to SDF Macross. BigWest and Harmony Gold buried the hatchet after this, btw, which is why everything past Flashback 2012 is now coming to the West. The audit between Tatsunoko and Harmony Gold, btw found that Tatsunoko, not HG, was in debt to HG to the tune of over $1 million USD from HG helping with the Tats/BW lawsuit in the early 2000s. That's why the rights to SDF Macross, Genesis Climber MOSPEADA and SDC Southern Cross were renewed between them (1mil is a lot of clams for 3 shows that are now 40 years old). The lawsuit between HG & Catalyst was a separate matter altogether and the fact the Judge dismissed it with prejudice is irrelevant to the fact of the Unseen.
@darkstorminc5 ай бұрын
@@BrooklynRedLegsettled, but I doubt they paid them much if anything. Probably more of leave us alone and we'll won't take this to trial. You can see that since Catalyst Game Labs was in default and yet they are still using designs that look closer to the anime Mecha than PGI.
@DrendarMorevo8 ай бұрын
Failed to mention that Harebrained Schemes **beat** Harmony Gold in court reopening the Unseen designs for BattleTech.
@CactusJackIV8 ай бұрын
I had 3 of the RPG books; Robotch, Zentroni, and Invid Invasion. My friends and I really enjoyed playing.
@thehybridfamily56708 ай бұрын
ENTROPY!!!! We will all be dead and gone before that movie gets made! Thank you for all the hard work you guys put into every video!
@bjvincent87868 ай бұрын
I will be happy when Super Dimension Fortress Macross, Macross 7, Macross Frontier and Macross Delta are released in its pure unaltered and original form on TV and DVD/ Bluray in Canada and the USA. I would love to see some of Harmony Gold's finished project like a complete version of Robotech II: The Sentinels and the sequel to Robotech: The Shadow Chronicles called Robotech: Shadow Rising. In addition to the rest of the original Macross franchise. But the thing is for them to just get it done!
@fiveoctaves8 ай бұрын
"SDF Macross" was already remastered and released on DVD many years ago. Since the licensing is held by HG, there will likely be no upgrade or release in the near future. "Macross 7" and Macross Frontier" are floating in limbo since Sony absorbed Right Stuf/Nozomi who acquired the licensing rights and planned to release them this year but now... At least we're getting "Macross Plus" and "Macross II". Old before new, I guess... "The Sentinels" has been disregarded and is no longer considered canon. The "Shadow Rising" trademark was abandoned well over ten years ago.
@McHaro00798 ай бұрын
@@fiveoctaves "Macross Plus" and "Macross II" have been availble in (at least Canadian) iTunes store for a decade something already. Not something new I believe. Source: I searched keywords like Gundam and Macross from time to time there.
@kelmcclanahan48858 ай бұрын
I'll be honest, finding out if Secret Galaxy knew anything I didn't about what was going to happen to the later Macross series after Right Stuf got taken over by Crunchyroll is why I watched this video, and I'm still frustrated.
@fiveoctaves8 ай бұрын
@@kelmcclanahan4885 Big West wants media releases but Crunchyroll is probably only interested in streaming which also means a dub. The parties do not want the same thing but Sony still holds the rights for now. We'll be frustrated for a while.
@poofygoof6 ай бұрын
@@fiveoctaves remastered macross along with southern cross and mospeada were available on amazon a decade back, free with prime. They are still available at $2/ep and I wish I knew where to actually purchase media or downloadable copies, because it's something I keep circling back to and don't trust streaming services to maintain availability.
@flaircraft8 ай бұрын
ENTROPY! Harmony Gold will throw a wrench in the works like they always do...
@CarlosLopez-oc9nh8 ай бұрын
Thank you for the vid, the story of Robotech is so insane it takes reall guts to put it together.
@danawhite98238 ай бұрын
That was... a lot. I've never been able to figure out where to start Robotech and actually follow the story because I didn't decide to get into it until I was an adult. It sounds like more work than pleasure.
@helghallen8 ай бұрын
Screw harmony gold
@JamesShow8 ай бұрын
Yep. Here yet again again. And angry again. Love it.
@BradTheProducer8 ай бұрын
Sweet Jesus, that Rick Hunter doll from the Women of Robotech commercial is cursed AF. Is he a repurposed Donnie Osmond doll?
@craigmorris40838 ай бұрын
You know, I go to @47:26 and I thought, "Damnit, I absolutely refuse your Batchall." Thank you for that. 😅
@BigEpinstriping8 ай бұрын
Nice to have it all in one place! As a nearly lifelong fan of all the franchises involved, I appreciate the thorough coverage of this topic over the years! Thanks again Dan!
@tommytwotacos81067 ай бұрын
Mmmm Battletech. I miss mucking around with my friends as a kid and any time I could tackle one of them by jumping down from a higher object yelling "DEATH FROM ABOVE!" hoping that would give me a 2x damage multiplier if I yelled it loud enough.
@freestylesfpv8 ай бұрын
This was amazing. I am so happy your channel has continued all these years to produce such a fantastic catalog. Thank you.
@quickstrides45338 ай бұрын
It looks like that jet fire is also a phoenix hawk in battle tech. Forgot about that one
@LakeLee-r1g3 ай бұрын
Battletech had 3 veritech based mecha if I recall correctly. One based off the basic veritech, then one for rick hunters skull squadron officers veritech, then one based off the super veritech which I think was the pheonix hawk. Then there was 2 different sets of rules, one for use with the transformable option and one without. I think they were 20 tons, 25 and 45 tons. I recall using the 45 ton pheonix hawk and variants, but tried to stay the hades away from anything under 35 tons. I haven't played in decades who knows if that info is even still applicable!
@briangarvey68958 ай бұрын
I have been a Robotech fan since I first watched it on us TV in 1985. These videos have been a godsend for trying to keep track of what has happened and what will happen in the future.
@davewire872 ай бұрын
Having all of these videos edited together is amazingly informative if not only for gleaming the merest glimpse into the twisted history of Robotech than also for baring witness to the evolution of Dan’s beard.
@anthonybird5468 ай бұрын
I absolutely loathe Harmony Gold for what they have done with these properties
@tigmil81165 ай бұрын
Really? I loathe them because they made goku zero and korin whiskers the wonder cat.
@AlanGrassia8 ай бұрын
ENTROPY, but we all want MOVIE. Thanks Dan for putting all of this together.
@DemoniqueLewis8 ай бұрын
ENTROPY - I have always been on the FASA side of the argument because it has a better overall story based on the books. We quickly jump to the clans story line but the inner sphere battle was just as interesting. I would love for someone to animate or do a series starting at the beginning of the story. Harmony Gold has broken my heart too many times to trust them.
@malloryjones53938 ай бұрын
I was generally aware of anime b4 I watched Robotech as a kid, but that was the one that really got me hooked and remains my absolute favorite, especially the Macross content. The SDF-1 and her crew were awesome and I loved the complexity of their relationships. The main characters showed real growth and development throughout the series.
@jinpei058 ай бұрын
AKA How Harmony Gold Continues to Exist
@AZOSSHISTORIAN8 ай бұрын
Harmony Gold should revoke their license with Titan Comics due to how they have mishandled Robotech Remix and the current Rick Hunter comic. The constant delays and disrespect of the franchise and its fans has gone on long enough. Great video by the way Dan! 👍
@ThePhenomf48 ай бұрын
Battletech and exosquad toys were exceptional!
@AndrewDasilvaPLT8 ай бұрын
Exosquad was what brought the founders of MAHQ together.
@zerocool53958 ай бұрын
I had the green and blue mechs as a kid, some of the best toys I've ever owned. I remember them fondly.
@jcombes18 ай бұрын
Atrophy Aslo, WTF! Are you okay? Covering this saga has got to have taken a toll on you. 😂 ❤ your coverage on the material!
@jeffreystein98718 ай бұрын
Promo art for Macross Shooting Insight has Minmei in the Japanese version, but no Minmei in the US version. Harmony Gold also tweeted that the characters/story from the original show were still off limits, which suggests they forced the removal of the original Macross from the US version of the game. The saga continues...
@RayShadow2788 ай бұрын
I'll never forgive them for this. (and all the other stuff as well)
@delta78908 ай бұрын
I'll leave it to others to correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure SDF Macross and DYRL content is being made unavailable worldwide for that game with the exception of Japan itself. The developer's solution to the debacle has apparently been to make the SDF Macross and DYRL content free DLC, but again...only for those who live in Japan.
@wolfdeltanine8 ай бұрын
@@delta7890 You are correct sir, to help make it easier to get the game out, the SDFM/DYRL content was made into a separate DLC. Honestly a smart move. Now still waiting on the US steam release.
@danielcraig96668 ай бұрын
Yes, because there was a legal agreement a few years back where things were officially hashed out. HG officially has the licensing rights for SDFM and DYRL therefore anything from those shows must go through HG approval or else. Everything else Macross is fair game worldwide now. It's why the recent Hidetaka Tenjin art books only cover Flashback to Delta but there's a third book in Japan that was all SDFM/DYRL.
@fiveoctaves8 ай бұрын
@@danielcraig9666 HG does not have the licensing right to DYRL but they now hold the rights to the character and mech designs for SDF Macross and nearly all the DYRL designs are identical. Macross media made 1987 and later is available for international distribution with going through HG so from Flashback 2012 and on but DYRL is the one title that stays in Japan.
@aatifkhan37 ай бұрын
ENTROPY 🙂 Thank you for all of these videos.
@BaqTalk8 ай бұрын
HOLY CRAP! 1hr30? You guys are drifting into Documentary territory. Kudos.
@2lobo7778 ай бұрын
This is a compilation video of all of those Robotech videos remastered and re-edited into 1 long saga, and even this is basically incomplete.
@mauirixxx8 ай бұрын
I just got done watching the entire thing … this is the longest video on KZbin I actually paid attention to …
@darinherrick92248 ай бұрын
@@mauirixxx then You’ve got a LOT of work to do. Board game and video game reviews are an hour and a half regularly now. I watched a review of every shooter on PC ENGINE that was 5+ hours long.
@mauirixxx8 ай бұрын
@@darinherrick9224 pc engine … now there’s a name I haven’t heard in a few decades!
@lunger428 ай бұрын
@@2lobo777 just like Robotech 😂
@duhg5998 ай бұрын
Entropy. I started this video thinking it was an in-world history of the Robotech saga. It turned out to be better than that. Thanks.
@pauldesigncomics26258 ай бұрын
That was great editing. I never knew it was 3 totally different series.
@carbondragon7 ай бұрын
I first heard about this by buying and playing Battletech (I had never heard of robotech). And I remember the whole lawsuit stuff because our older mechs were no longer available, still have those. And battletech is still around in some form.
@TheGuitarBling8 ай бұрын
The (Mostly) Complete History of Dan Larson's Beard
@RedwoodTheElf7 ай бұрын
I remember FASA's Battletech original. With the Zentraedi Officer's Battle Pod renamed to "Marauder", and the several "Land Air Mechs" designed after the Veritech transforming fighter/battloids....so yeah, not all Battlemechs were non-transformable.
@TroySpartan2478 ай бұрын
Macross: when you want Top Gun in your Giant Robot story 😂
@mightyrobot428 ай бұрын
Gundam 0083 would be another option for that.
@NebLleb8 ай бұрын
@@mightyrobot42 I'VE GOT A BURNIN' LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE
@user-SaputroYono7 ай бұрын
@@NebLleb🎵"I wanna get a chance!"🎵
@Abhothra8 ай бұрын
ENTROPY Great video team, well done.
@QuestionMan8 ай бұрын
I forgot how much Dan looked like Bruce Campbell back in the day.
@albertparente5846 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing and getting all of this together. I loved that you included the BattleTech/Fasa Corp. history as well! I didn’t think there was this much going on in the legal realms and glad it all got sorted out recently! I’ve been a fan of BT since 1995 (5yrs old) and Robotech AND Exo Force! As a kid growing up I’d always wonder why I’d see all three names randomly appearing and disappearing from store shelves. Battletech has had its own drama as of recent and you may want to update your coverage on those recent events as well for another video! This is where I chose to stay since RT and EF were seemingly dead and the complexity of the BT board game was my main attractor.
@amai_zing8 ай бұрын
ENTROPY which is a shame, but Robotech was just mismanaged and mishandled from the very beginning - otherwise I think it could’ve been Transformers-big
@thetr00per307 ай бұрын
I have said it for decades, Robotech and D&D are the two most criminally mismanaged franchises in all of entertainment.
@ArmouredPhalanx8 ай бұрын
Robotech was my gateway drug for anime. I had some of the toys and watched it a bit when it first came out. Largely forgot about it until I was a teenager when I discovered the novelizations and comics, and then dove in headfirst and never looked back. I resent Harmony Gold for a lot of things, and favour the original Japanese versions of shows... but I have to credit them with providing that entry point for everything else.
@transformer038 ай бұрын
If nothing else, I think how the original writers connected the three animes together is fascinating as a behind-the-scenes factoid. In general, I like both Macross and Robotech, and I think there's room for both to exist. Both the stupidity on both sides, (Harmony Gold and the Japanese owners), have created a legal system where neither benefited from it.
@LakeLee-r1g3 ай бұрын
@@transformer03 Well it's like everything else. The originals come out and we love them, then the creators get taken off the projects, or die, or corporate zombies infect it somehow, and then everything goes down hill. Im honestly suprised Gundam hasn't been even more screwed than it is, though their efforts at putting out a decent gundam game has been failing for ages.
@aaronmorano16628 ай бұрын
Thanks for putting this all together. Been watching the ongoing fire for a while, because of your channel, and watching you slowly going insane following this makes me feel good.
@thecunninlynguist8 ай бұрын
Big Robotech fan!!! My local PBS used to play it Sunday nights. One of my good friends and I became friends because of Robotech. I had made a quip about proto culture and he was like eh? What about Robotech?! And we've been friends simxe
@Yoshimurha6 ай бұрын
Thank you @Secret Galaxy for all your timeand research into this and the work laid down to put it all into video-format. Much appreciated!
@crazedzealots8 ай бұрын
Robotech is literally the greatest cartoon story ever told by far. I was absolutely gobsmacked as an 11 year old when I first saw it on television. It was as exciting and genre defining as Star Wars before it. I never owned a toy from it, they just didn't show up in my town in Canada. I had heaps of GI. JOE, Star Wars, Marvel Toys, and Transformers. Robotech is the best cartoon television show ever aired in North America by far. The death of Roy will always be an epic moment that I will always remember. Roy dying was like Han Solo dying in Star Wars. Amazing.
@btetschner8 ай бұрын
A+ video! Thank you so much for tackling what seems like an outrageously complicated and research-intense subject, I watched the entire video!
@leodenverrex38198 ай бұрын
I actually discovered Robotech in 1989 while happened to be on TV. I was very young and dont remember much except that Trumpet fair theme song and, of course, an awesome transforminf Jet Mech.
@leodenverrex38198 ай бұрын
Also the same year i saw Thundercats and StrTrk:tng.
@CookieJunkie7 ай бұрын
Definitely ENTROPY. Great vid!
@henrymatos95518 ай бұрын
I just love this compilation of the Robotech history. It’s saddening how Robotech ended up at a halt due to its licensing legal battles. This series could have had incredible continuous storyline. I really appreciate the research to the history of such a fantastic sci-fi show. Note: there is a Robotech: the Macross Saga game on the Nintendo store for Switch. You guys are the best! Had to come back to add the magic word! “Entropy!” 😂
@darnellfelix81147 ай бұрын
idk if youve ever seen them but the sentinels novels etc continue the series past the cartoon quite a bit. As far as i know, the shadow chronicles movie was the final piece of story that we got and it ended on a cliffhanger of sorts.
@henrymatos95517 ай бұрын
@@darnellfelix8114 I will have to look into the Sentinel series. I’m curious about it. I have seen Chronicles and enjoyed it. Thx! ✌🏼
@darnellfelix81147 ай бұрын
@@henrymatos9551 sentinels happens before southern cross. They make an sdf3 with the factory satellite and go to tirol to meet the robotech masters unaware that a bunch of them had left for earth. Worse they didn't repair the fold systems properly so the trip was instant but they were gone from earth for a long time. They encounter the Invid invading tirol. You get cameos from chars like scot Bernard, you meet and ally with the haydonites and other races etc. Ends with humanity sending waves of armies back to earth to try to retake it from the Invid as seen in robotech next Gen. There's actually a bit of tirol being invaded by the Invid before the sdf3 appears, on KZbin as they were adapting it as a cartoon but plans got scrapped.
@EinDose8 ай бұрын
I know that Harmony Gold and Robotech is a thing of legend in stupid, evil lawsuits, but what happened to Fasa and Battletech around Exo-Squad is somehow worse.
@vladimirlagos26888 ай бұрын
I feel like I aged along with Dan Larson as I watched this video. It is painful to watch how one of my favorite childhood series sinks deeper and deeper into unfinished oblivion with every passing year. Robotech was not my first Japanese linear story since Japanese anime became established firmly quite earlier in Latin America than it did in the US. However, Robotech and Saint Seiya marked the eighties for me.
@captainteutonica54748 ай бұрын
You forgot to mention the Shadow/Phoenixhawk Land Air Mech, Warhammer, Marauder and Archer from Battletech, those bad boys caused a big curfuffle with Harmony Gold. *correction* you did mention it, I should have watched the full video before opening my keyboard.
@krystnce8 ай бұрын
As a Robotech fan since the 80's. I vote ENTROPY. Seriously, at this point I am happy to watch the old episodes and read my old Palladium source books.
@raithnor60078 ай бұрын
From a strictly universe-building standpoint the Macross universe is more interesting. Macross Delta made it clear that humanity colonized a good chunk of the galaxy. Robotech is still fairly post-apocalyptic.
@darinherrick92248 ай бұрын
Harmony Gold had some ego to think licensing animation made them own the franchise.
@MantisNineNines8 ай бұрын
Very nice to collect all these together! The state of RT has sure changed a lot over the last 10 years
@TekkaSage7 ай бұрын
Macross DYRL movie got me into anime and will always be my favorite part of this franchise.
@mrgreatbigmoose8 ай бұрын
Loved everything I just saw! You guys are awesome! I'm honestly surprised that Harmony Gold never went after the video game THEXDER!
@laughitupfuzzball8 ай бұрын
Love that Pt.1 aired on my birthday nearly 6 years ago. I remember watching it then and finding it so informative for the casual Robotech fan like me (back when I was a kid) & now. Kudos guys to a meaningful series that could definitely move from stitched together to fully scripted reboot documentary style available on physical media. Harmony Gold and various companies knocking in the door?
@Karateka19738 ай бұрын
I was 11 when Robotech first aired and i enjoyed it thoroughly. I recently rewatched the entire Harmony Gold 3 choater saga with my 11 and 13yr olds, and i now have a deeper appreciation for this classic gem. This show was dark, edgy, hard hitting and gritty for 1985. They handled somw serious and complex subject matter. They dealt with the horrors of combat, loss of comrades, survivor's guilt, PTSD, cross dressing (Lancer/ Star Dancer) and even threw in inter-racial relationships. All the anti-woke crowd would go straight knucking futs if Robotech was being run today. There was alot that just went right by my 11yr old self. Im glad that my kids enjoyed it.
@bjg86387 ай бұрын
I love Robotech and Battletech. I actually have a complete collection of the "Jack McKinney" novels and the complete collection of Battletech and Mechwarrior Dark Age books as well. At least the ones in english.. both of those collections have taken roughly 30 years of collecting lol
@Hetzer8 ай бұрын
I’ve been meaning to do a deep dive video for years on the whole mess that is Robotech (aka Tobytech) and what a shameless bunch Harmony Gold is. When fans were yelling their hosannas of joy that things were going to turn around for the better in 2021, I was doubtful anything was really going to happen- because we’ve been through all this before. First with Macross II, then Macross Plus; two products that barely got out of Japan before Harmony Gold reasserted their stranglehold and ground everything to a halt. So much great Macross content not officially seen outside Japan because of this nonsense. Ironically, I remember a time in the late 80’s when we thought the chances of Sunrise letting Gundam out of Japan were impossible because they saw the mess that Macross was embroiled in and wanted no part of something similar happening to them! There’s a joke about how Harmony Gold getting out of the way and just letting things happen will occur the same time an Elfquest movie gets made. We’ve been hearing these rumors and leaks for nearly forty years with some blips to make fans hopeful and then… nothing. So it goes…
@drbachimanchi5 ай бұрын
I am from india.. at age 11 i watched robotech .some how still fresh in my memory after 30 years. Thanks for providing huge nostalgia dose
@t.r.m.78628 ай бұрын
Also, if you decide to do other translated works from the early 80s Techno-Voyager might be a good one, as it was repackaged as a Thunderbirds sequel in both the US and it’s original Japanese version.
@LuisSanchezLouieLouie3 ай бұрын
Your research is impeccable. Good job
@eugenenelson19922 ай бұрын
Hey Brother, this is the first I have watched from you channel and I have to say “Job well done”. I really believe you have found your niche with researching material and make it easy to digest.
@DeathInTheSnow8 ай бұрын
I grew up with Robotech on VHS as a kid. I loved it so much. And then as a teenager I discovered that it was renamed and the original was call Macross. Well that was okay. A simple quirk of translation. I'd seen that before. Then I discovered the lawsuit. And _then_ I discovered that not had more series been made, but they were restricted due to more American corporate greed. Joy. So now I hate Robotech. I hate what it did to an excellent show. I can't support it. I hate that it could be referenced by other exploitative businesses to do the same thing.
@davesuccess8 ай бұрын
Man I thought you were going to go through the story like a recap. I didn't realize that you were going to do a complete behind the scenes of the production.
@highdefnews7 ай бұрын
I loved Exosquad when I was a kid. It was the last cartoon I regularly watched & bought the toys for before losing interest in those things due to age. I think it’d be successful if it was brought back for an adult audience considering its themes.
@Firedrake-SP8 ай бұрын
1: Robotech had a great start, until things got really messy after the Macross Saga. 2: Hasbro made the mistake by using the Valkyrie Mech from Macross/Robotech series for Jetfire/Skyfire. Why couldn't they use a redeco of Starscream for Jetfire/Jetfire (ignoring the Shatter Glass series)?
@YankeePendragon8 ай бұрын
Dan, I love you. Only you and Secret Galaxy could pull all of this together so well.
@ashnodmtg8 ай бұрын
I just love that mantech was featured in the video, because it is always mantech
@TurtleTrackin8 ай бұрын
Battletech I vaguely remember from playing the FASA games (hosed by other people- I never knew what was going on). The Battletech cartoon seems to have happened in the Gen X Dark Age - this is when Gen X had moved from high school over to early adulthood - college, military, marriage, and scrambling for financial stability. The Gen X nostalgia didn't start becoming a thing till the Gen Xers had kids old enough to share their obsessions with.
@icepicker85287 ай бұрын
Thanks for all the hard work over the years to put this together
@xvimlar5 ай бұрын
Macross is what drew me in, it was on a local channel at 6am M-F and I would get up before the rest of my family and watch it every morning before work. Made a lifetime anime and manga fan out of me.