Toyota Dealers CAN’T SELL TRUCKS

[@raymond_sycamore]

Pay $80,000 to get a truck that engine will blow up instantly. What a deal!

[@goodoljackburton9211]

They'd rather let the product sit and rot then to come down on the price. That's pure greed. F' em all!!!!

[@jibberjabber-fm6pb]

that way they admit the low quality

[@ed209D]

Exactly

[@tennbones]

I am still running a Nissan frontier with 320k on it, a 2004! The day I pay 75k for a pickup please have me evaluated at a local mental hospital.

[@phreddeijonz826]

Too many negatives. Made in Mexico. Turbo 4 banger. Long term reliability is questionable. Toyota has lost its way.

[@jamesp6283]

My made in Mexico 2015 Tacomas has been great, if the piece of junk new Tacoma was made in the us it would still be an overpriced steaming pile of dog crap

[@westcoastplinkin6559]

3rd gen Tacomas were made in Mexico

[@timalan7406]

@@jamesp6283 My 2016 was made in Texas on 10/31/2015 and delivered on 11/12/2015. Though it was a very early production 3rd gen, I never had a single problem in 8+ years of ownership.

[@justinstiff5641]

Not to mention the outrageous price 😕

[@2009polostar]

@@westcoastplinkin6559not all of them. The ones built in Mexico were built in the Tecate plant in Baja California.

[@kirk8359]

These Tacoma's remind me of plastic model kits I used to buy when I was a kid, they never looked right and the pieces just didn't blend together. These trucks look cheap, the old Tacomas looked like quality.

[@revnation_auto]

Exactly!

[@chadmanl2121]

I took my 2019 tundra in for service and saw all the new ones in the showroom. Every one of them are $70k+. That’s absurd.

[@revnation_auto]

Yep total crap

[@AJ-HawksToxicFinger]

It's so frustrating as someone who hasn't owned a truck since my teens and finally wanted to get another one with a trailer for camping right when the truck market went bonkers! At least the RV market is coming back down to reality, now we need the truck manufacturers to stop adding massive infotainment systems while removing the tow hooks - from TRUCKS?~!

[@gamebreak81]

Smaller engines with bigger price tags. I love toyota especially the tacoma. This is the first generation tacoma im not buying.

[@michaelgillett5744]

Our local small town dealer has the most New vehicles I have ever seen there. Nobody is going to pay that for a work truck in the snow belt.

[@revnation_auto]

I grew up in Minnesota and fully agree with you. They don’t stand a chance to the elements.

[@mghattendorf]

Buy a half ton truck that can rival my house payment.....no thanks. I will drive my 2017 Ram until the wheels fall off of it. Then I will put new wheels on it. Who can afford a $1000 per month truck payment? Where is the money going? Does UAW pay six figures to assemblers?

[@johnw4590]

Yes. I think these simple Automotive assemblers are 99k a year with great medical company match 401k or pension.

[@Joe-cu4hi]

These turbo 4’s for $58k are about $25-$30k too much

[@lawdog516]

2 problems here, 1 - Toyota has a Tacoma following so Toyota got greedy and went nuts with the price while destroying the Toyota reliability by cutting corners and 2 - people are buying them, vote with your wallet people otherwise the auto manufacturers will keep making junk and charging more, $60K for ANY midsize truck is INSANE !!!!!!

[@pagodad8079]

Already seeing lots of 24’s on the road in my area. People are happily financing/leasing these overpriced trucks.

[@Slammingutz]

People are such dumb sheep. The 2024 Toyota Tacoma is absolute garbage. I see some new Tacoma’s around town and I look at the idiot that bought it and laugh.

[@timesup6302]

Not enough people to vote with our wallets. The tacoma cult is too numerous. They will never stop buying them

[@PrepperDawg]

Agreed, the 3rd generation Tacoma looks way better.

[@greencrunchy6640]

Dealer greed + Corporate greed

[@ZoMcYo]

Nobody can sell anything. We’re all to poor. I can’t afford to feed my family. 75000 is more than I paid for my house. Let them go bankrupt, don’t bale them out.

[@Sean2884]

Lots of people can afford lots of things. YOU are too poor. Not everyone is.

[@archieflunker2252]

Cartoonish is a great description. I thought they look goofy on the car lot now I’m seeing them out on the road and they look even more goofy, but the owners seem so proud of them.

[@Tone58]

Pure unadulterated greed by the manufacturer's and dealers. They all deserve to go out of business. Utterly ridiculous that people are buying these things

[@sdboy1978]

Let it sit!! Pretty soon the oiland fluids will settle and the battery will go dead costing the dealers money!

[@papaagidi2838]

Let the bad turbo overpriced trucks rot there

[@jmyers6175]

Perfect!!!

[@jmyers6175]

Perfect!!

[@ralpholiver8512]

Turbo charged engine on a truck. That maintenance bill will be extremely high

[@T_Le]

Toyota dealers think they are selling lexus trucks.

[@darrylk808]

Whoever is running Toyota has no business sense. They no longer focus on the customer and bring little value with their new trucks. They price their trucks where maybe only10% of the customer base can afford it, but produce same amounts. Of course they will start to pile up on dealer's lots. They Introduce more complex engines (turbo, hybrid) that add thousands to the cost, but deliver so little mpg benefit. Where is the value? If I could get 40 mpg, maybe there's value. Terrible business moves...

[@Boilerman1945]

@@darrylk808 You are correct, my son went to a local Toyota dealer and wanted to order a base model Tacoma. They refused, saying it wasn't worth their time.

[@tobindrake2767]

I could buy one of these trucks cash tomorrow. But they are complete garbage and I'm not interested. I don't want a twin turbo that grenades itself when you drive it off the lot and no-one wants a hybrid truck. Bring back the proven V8 and I'd get one tomorrow at even these prices. That engine will last forever and those trucks were bullet proof investments. This junk isn't worth even $10k. Who wants a truck you can't rely on?

[@westcoastplinkin6559]

Tacoma has never had a V8

[@tobindrake2767]

@@westcoastplinkin6559 Tundras did genius. Did I say a Tacoma had a V8?

[@Evil-dr4bn]

Guess car companies need to lose their asses before they realize Average Joe is just fine buying the Corolla.

[@timesup6302]

Even those are starting to get overpriced

[@starman6092]

I bought a new 2018 Tacoma SR5 4-door for $28K. The same dealership I bought it from offered me $34K to buy it back in 2021. I still have it. It costs too much to replace it. After 6 years of ownership, it only has 22K miles on it and I'm very happy with it. These prices are crazy.

[@jibberjabber-fm6pb]

my buddy bought a 2002 tacoma new for 18k

[@westcoastplinkin6559]

@@jibberjabber-fm6pb My uncle bought a 1993 Toyota Pickup for 9k. Times are different now.

[@DEEJaye-z5g]

I own a 2022 Toyota Tacoma SR5 V6 Barcelona Red made in Mexico (I bought it brand new) and I love it! I lucked out in being able to buy it (it was covid and there were no new trucks on the lots), I was at the right place at the right time. It's a great truck. No problems with it. It runs great has enough power to go on freeways, and in the city driving. It's my work horse. Best of all it fits in my garage. I can't say enough good things about my Toyota Tacoma. I wish I had bought a Toyota Tacoma years ago.

[@Tyson1587]

I still have salesmen begging to trade my 22 Sport for a 24 Sport. Told him I couldn't see downgrading to a 4cyl and low quality truck. The silence was beautiful and hung up. Guess they will try again next week.

[@nataliemanzo34]

As a janitor of ten years . That has access to a little inside information. Ima tell you right now. Car dealership aren’t planning to budge anytime soon

[@Youtube304s]

Well, they can sit on it.

[@karld.5587]

They will "bulge" when 2025 comes around and they have to close. Locking out most of their customers will have repercussions.

[@nataliemanzo34]

@@karld.5587 yeah I’m 🙏 for prizes to collapse too

[@turbotheamericanstaffy]

Game on

[@Andyski-h9r]

My theory is that the few sales they are doing with the elevated price are able to keep them going. why sell 4 cars for 20k when you can sell one car for 80k?

[@RidesTheRain]

It's not just price and styling. People have lost confidence in the new platforms.

[@CrossKnight]

Everything is so gosh darn expensive now. Can barely get a new car sub $20k now......Totally sucks.

[@davidmurray1630]

Adding insult to injury are the dealer add-ons and market adjustments that a lot of the Toyota dealers are doing. I refuse to pay full MSRP and I certainly would never pay for the add-ons and market adjustments. Crazy times for sure! Great video!

[@revnation_auto]

True statement my friend! Thanks for watching, share with your friends. People need to know about all scammy BS that’s going on.

[@Kevin-mk6jo]

6:35 Purple??? Looks blue to me...

[@revnation_auto]

Go look at one in person when you can, you’ll see what I’m talking about. It’s a purple blue mix.

[@DarthVader-1701]

In person Blue Crush looks Deep Royal Blue, which has a moderate Purple Hue.

[@jmyers6175]

Enjoy your channel!!! 🏆

[@TheC0zz]

I think the new tacoma looks better than the previous model. Would never consider buying one though, due to price and reliability issues.

[@jp8950]

Toyota caved in to Davos, and destroyed a golden formula of perfection. No is going to spend top dollar for undersized, overstressed engines that are blowing up.

[@Pablo-cp9nc]

Wait, where is this? Tacomas are flying off lots around here.

[@southwestxnorthwest]

Maybe an unpopular opinion but personally I think Toyota has lost its way and has been churning trash out consistently for the last 5 years or so. These trucks and SUVs are horrible looking and the design team loves these angular lines and stupidass features like those teardrops under the headlights. As far as that ARB partnership; fucking ridiculous aifyou can get a Chevy Avalanche for much cheaper. I'm happy with my 2002 Tacoma TRD; it looks good, is dependable, and gets lots of compliments.

[@cynthia6389]

2017 was the last year before they went hard woke

[@westcoastplinkin6559]

@@cynthia6389 What are you talking about? Literally 2018-2023 was the peak sales of Tacomas. Sales of the 3rd gen Tacomas exceeded 200k after 2018. Before 2018, they were always under 200k.

[@koolxxxyear]

Yes, what’s up with the crying look? ??

[@koolxxxyear]

@@cynthia6389what is “woke” on a truck? What does that mean? What part of it is woke?

[@BetaRacer24]

40k for a truck, made in mexico. Turbo 4 banger. Have to spend 4 to 8k to get a damn trailer brake controller ON A TRUCK. Then if you dont get that package you cant even install a factory brake controller because it doesnt have the wiring harness

[@pennylessplantation]

Love the 3rd gen. Had one for 10 years and worked it to the bone. Frame was rusting, needed a truck, wasn’t interested in anything turbo or 4 cylinder. Especially when it’s priced 20k too high and they seem to be breaking. Went with a frontier.

[@kalashnikovbob355]

we need regular cab base models again. manual trans, windows and locks. no stupid infotainment system or nanny systems. it could be done for under 30k.

[@frankleespeaking9519]

I agree but it’s never gonna happen. In the last 20 years consumers did not buy regular cabs or extended cabs, so they were abandoned. Same with manual gearboxes

[@jamesh1641]

Was there a stop sale on any of the lot rot units? Seems odd a $56k truck doesn’t move.

[@Mike-vd2qt]

2024, Silverado LT Crew-Cab, 4X4, with many discounts for approximately $42,000.

[@revnation_auto]

Solid buy mate!

[@melvinjohnson2074]

Longo Toyota has around 250 Tacoma's in stock if you're looking for variety.

[@BCNeil]

All the same colour

[@Slammingutz]

Haha! Longo will be holding those new 2024 Tacoma’s for a year or more. They are junk trucks. Cheap plastic and the interior and exterior. ✌🏼✌🏼✌🏼 Bye bye Toyota.

[@joeblack1052]

Might as well rot on the lot rather than in driveway after people buy them

[@TheKingOfInappropriateComments]

I bought a TRD offroad tacoma new in 2018 for $34k and change. I hated it. Traded it 6 months later for a half ton. Let me ask you something. Did you happen to see any Sequoias there? There's like 12 in my entire state and they're $80k+ obviously.

[@jibberjabber-fm6pb]

i bought my sequoia in 2004 for 32k. i still have it with 280k miles. i would never buy a sequoia for 80k dollars

[@TheKingOfInappropriateComments]

@@jibberjabber-fm6pb ok that's nice

[@jamesm568]

I just bought me a 2024 Nissan Frontier, but I did look at the new Toyota Tacomas first, but when the Toyota mechanics said walk away I ran.

[@revnation_auto]

That’s who I love talking to. You’d be shocked at the amount of issues Honda and Toyota have. GM mechanics honestly seem to have the least from the ones I know. Definitely didn’t expect that when I started this channel.

[@sauerOFkraut]

tacomas are having transmission problems

[@naps3386]

Transmission failures

[@fortheloveofnoise]

thats why u get a manual

[@Muffin192213]

I didn't see any add on sticker prices that's good, maybe we've turned the corner on that but now the blame for these obscene MSRP"s continue to be on the manufacturers.

[@revnation_auto]

It’s good direction but Toyota will never lower their MSRP

[@felixcat9318]

Don't forget that depreciation! Drive that $70,000 new truck off the lot and its magically no longer a $70,000 truck, and the depreciation has only just begun to destroy your financial investment in the truck...

[@Doc1855]

Nobody wants a Toyota that’s built in Mexico, is Way TOO EXPENSIVE for a 4 banger. I’m over the moon that I bought my 23 TRD Off Road double cab 6’ bed with the Premium and Technology pkgs with the Proven, Reliable 3.5L V6. I paid $48K and the MSRP was $51,848.

[@erichewitt890]

Your 2023 was built in the exact same plant in Mexico that the 4th gen is produced in. Production in the San Antonio plant ceased in 2019. Look it up. As a previous 3rd gen owner, the 2.4 destroys the dogshit slow 3.5 in every way. It’s also been in production in Lexus applications since 2019 with 0 issues. I bought my 3rd gen trd sport for $39k and my 4th gen SR was $38.5k. The SR has more features than the 2022 trd sport had. No one has their facts straight and just want to talk trash.

[@Doc1855]

@@erichewitt890 Obviously you’re not a Toyota mechanic

[@erichewitt890]

@@Doc1855 you’re right I’m not a Toyota mechanic but I am a mechanic for the last 25 years. What does that have anything to do with the fact that everything you said in your comment is a contradiction? I’m just a consumer that has my facts straight. Your truck was built in Mexico dude.

[@Doc1855]

@@erichewitt890 Our Master Toyota mechanic has told me that they’re having a Lot of problems with the Tacoma Turbos but the biggest problem is with both the automatic and manual transmissions. Since there are no transmissions available in the USA some owners are waiting for 6-8 months for another one. I waited 6 months for mine

[@erichewitt890]

@@Doc1855 I’m on several 4th gen Tacoma owners groups on Facebook and have yet to hear of one single turbo issue or any engine related issue for that matter. I’m aware of some documented early build automatic transmission failures which I will agree is unacceptable but you would need to look back to the start of the 3rd gen in 2016 and see how many automatic transmission failures there were on the 6spd to be fair. There haven’t been any documented cases of manual transmission failures on the new Tacoma. From everything I’ve been able to gather, that is an internet hoax. Every new generation of vehicle will have its problems. It just pisses me off that everyone wants to hate on the new generation of Tacoma because it was assembled in Mexico which I pointed out is and has been the assembly plant for all Tacomas since 2020, and that it has a 4cyl turbo engine. So what! 40+ years of forced induction on passenger vehicles have proven to be reliable provided they’re properly maintained, and you’d really have to drive one to see for yourself that it is better than the 3.5 in every way.

[@angusmac2037]

That’s would cost us Canadians about 90k CAD all in…here in NS

[@55stevieray]

This looks like the Toyota dealership here in Las Vegas. They have nothing but really high priced trucks on the lot.

[@josephchiarello11]

I hate the way these new trucks look - very cheesy,cheap, looks like a transformer character. Plus the 4banger engine? No thanks

[@koolxxxyear]

For those who grew up with transformers?

[@Bill757]

Where are the trucks to haul fire wood and top soil?

[@jejunamja]

I've got a 2004 Tacoma pre-runner extended cab with 215,000 mi on it and so if Toyota would get their act together and make another compact truck with a 6-ft bed they got a buyer right here and I bet you there's thousands, tens of thousands of people like me that are just waiting for a truck to use for work .

[@2009polostar]

So that means that now, the 2024 Toyota Hilux is better than the 2024 Tacoma with a starting price of $28,000 for a double cab? To bad we can't get the Hilux in the US.

[@daniellaubach7544]

I used to own a '87 Toyo 4x4 base model regular cab short bed with the 22R 4 banger with a 5 speed. Manual hubs to lock in for the 4wd. Ran great over the 5 years i owned it. The styling back in the mid to late 80's was angular making look like a truck. Good fuel mileage it gave me. The current generation is ugly did away with the 6 banger for this turbocharged 4 that's not holding up plus a jacked up sticker price. All I can say is no thanks Toyota. Your trucks can sit there and become Lot Rot!

[@BigHouse907]

Haha. I have one too, except it’s an ‘85.

[@waterlec8718]

I was a Jeep Gladiator owner and went to a Toyota dealership to DRIVE a new high level 4x Tacoma, THINKING it was ...1) a 6 cylinder monster ...2) A truck that I'd have for a long ass time...👈🏽 As I was on the freeway, DOING the test drive, with the salesperson, I gunned it, and asked outloud " ( Dissapointed )Is this a 6 cylinder ? " The answer was "No, it's a 4 cylinder Turbo" ... I asked to drive a 6 cylinder, because I want a powerful engine...👈🏽Nope, the best you can get is a 4 cylinder turbo... It's a DOG, pure and simple.

[@revnation_auto]

Watch my review of the new one. You’re right about that.

[@rowyerboat8648]

Hard pass on both trucks. What’s that triangular thing in the bed behind the cab? It looks corny.

[@revnation_auto]

It’s their Roman chariot they’ll use on their way to the shop ha

[@rowyerboat8648]

@@revnation_auto 😆. I guess it’s supposed to convey a sense of ruggedness? Offroady-ness maybe?

[@westcoastplinkin6559]

Literally been an accessory since the 80s

[@rowyerboat8648]

@@westcoastplinkin6559 literally been corny since the 80’s

[@westcoastplinkin6559]

@@rowyerboat8648 People who are a fan of the Back to the Future movie don't think so.

[@Akaakaaka-ep9xh]

I traded down to Jetta Sport. Enough with ridiculous truck prices.

[@bradley7506]

They have zero trucks on the local Toyota dealership where I live…they also have zero RAV 4 hybrids, and pretty much zero hybrids of any model….it’s ridiculous.

[@rucussing]

A 4 cylinder truck? No F N Way! Almost 60 thousand?

[@baddudecornpop7328]

They’re tryin to sell canyons and colorados for 60-70 as well😂

[@falconinflight6235]

We'll drive our vehicles until the wheels fall off.

[@generatormike]

i have 2 tundras the 4.6 and the 5.7 the new turbo 3.5 is having mains issues, no replacement for displacement

[@robertradermecher4083]

Nissan is loving this.

[@sokratzmmf]

Nissan is struggling. Don't kid yourself

[@robertradermecher4083]

@@sokratzmmf Frontiers are flying off the lot. International sales,the truck line,not available in USA,sells. Toyota americas truck sales are a dumpster fire.

[@westcoastplinkin6559]

Nissan is struggling hard lol. They're only kept afloat in the US because of the Nissan Rogue. The Tacoma is still outselling the Frontier as of Q2 lol. Go watch TFLs video on Q2 sales.

[@patriot5526]

Why does everyone blame automakers for high vehicles prices? The UAW makes constant wage increase demands, and the government continues to place more and more burdensome regulations on the auto industry. Too much government involvement in anything always causes problems. Think about this the next time you vote. You may be contributing to the problem.

[@tyrsafray4640]

You are right about the government part, but the UAW isn’t in Mexico last time I checked. These Toyota products are all made in Mexico now.

[@Calislav96]

Voting is fake and gay

[@Jiggle-ps2dx]

Takes 8 months to get a Tacoma in Canada, every toyota is on back order here

[@revnation_auto]

People will be waiting around for a major disappointment.

[@rj-me3fh]

58 for a Tacoma? Not enough truck there for that!

[@mdoneg]

I’m go to pick up an 06’ LX470 with 160k on the clock for $15k next week. The new Toyota / Lexus products are garbage. Absolute trash! 🗑️

[@nolongerinserviceify]

I bought my 2002 LX470 with 129k for 15k, 2 years ago. It is awesome!

[@Txcowboy80]

Stopped by Infinti just to see how much the 2025 Q80 was priced at, $105,000. 😂

[@revnation_auto]

Yeah it’s ridiculous

[@naps3386]

The Hyundai Santa Cruz pickup truck seems to be well liked by owners I have talked to, mostly hauling air and the occasional kayak

[@westcoastplinkin6559]

I see plenty of full size pickups with camper shells installed lol.

[@shannoncrawford7212]

$58k for a Tacoma. Multiple 2024 Ram 2500 Laramie Night Edition (6.4L Hemi) for $63k near me ($10k off MSRP). I’d go with the Ram for $5k more.

[@naps3386]

Tundras are having engine failures, Tacoma are having transmission failures.

[@youtoobe169]

How much are they marking them up?

[@paulthompson1654]

If a car maker actually makes a low spec car without the extras it will sell easily . Greed gets in the way .

[@CMarkem]

IFORCE MAX has my interest, by until the fix the pricing, I will be keeping my 22' Off Road, my second Tacoma (had a sport 19' as well) family 2007 Tundra, running strong at my folks ranch 211k miles.

[@revnation_auto]

Sounds like you’ll eventually buy one. Might want to wait a couple more years for quality control issues to get sorted.

[@Doc1855]

My 23 TRD is worth more today than what I paid for it

[@ricktharp1]

Wanted to add another rig along side my 2nd and 3rd gen Tacomas but the new one is expensive and has too many problems.

[@Mike-vd2qt]

I was thinking of a Tundra, owned one for my business years ago, but with their current engine problems, I decided to keep my Subaru Outback. Tacoma's all have short beds in my area. Plus the trans is a hot mess.

[@revnation_auto]

You’re better off getting a GMC or Chevy work truck with the 5.3L & 8ft bed. F-150 with 5.0 work truck is hard to find. If you want a regular spec, get a Titan while you still can.

[@timalan7406]

30 months ago a Tundra TRD PRO was $51,000 and that was with 4 years of ramping up the price to transition into the new $78,000 Tundra TRD PRO. Stupid!

[@2H2521]

Pure junk!

[@daniellaubach7544]

That I can agree with 100 %!

[@jmyers6175]

The rear quarter panel sucks! The rear quarter panel is unfinished 💩

[@craigslistseller9354]

New Corolla GR = FAIL (self-combusting engines) New Tacoma = FAIL (cheap disposable turbo 4, auto/manual transmission failures, Mexican-made) New Tundra/Sequoia = FAIL (Catastrophic turbo V6 engine failures, recalls galore) New Lexus = FAIL (Catastrophic turbo engine failures) New V35A V6 = Absolute FAIL (Recalled: Poor design and manufacturing) New BZ4X & other BEVs = FAIL, FAIL, FAIL Oh, how the mighty have fallen....

[@revnation_auto]

Spot on my friend

[@craigslistseller9354]

@jeanclaude7018 I call them ToyoTuRDs. 😄

[@pinecone76]

What's the best way to determine the length of time a dealer had the truck in its inventory? Any chance you could share this? Thanks!

[@turbotheamericanstaffy]

V6 Tacoma is a much better truck. I’d take that black 2022 TRD any day

[@tommcdonough6086]

Will still be going down the road while these new generation Tacomas are in the shop with pricy repairs..

[@turbotheamericanstaffy]

@@tommcdonough6086 💯

[@Doc1855]

The new Tacoma’s look like a cartoon

[@thevanman4498]

From iconic to comic, certainly. I have owned 8 toyota trucks going back to 1983, this is the end of the road Toyota. Turbo engines not good. The 4.6,4.7, 5.7 are iforce engines, don’t call a 4 cyl an iforce. The 22RE, the 4 cylinder after that and the 2.7 Re great 4 bangers, this new creature is something else.

[@THROTTLEOLOGY]

Car manufacturers do as they please because we just bail them out with OUR tax money It’s a game to them

[@PianoUniverse]

You can get a new Corvette for almost the same price of a Tundra.

[@jmonserrat2018]

I would not pay 58k, not even 48k and probably not 38k....

[@Rdrunnersac]

I bought a 2024 4Runner TRD Off Road Premium nine months ago brand new for $45,200. That’s a deal compared to the asinine price of this new Tacoma.

[@mrmeatlover197]

When will the ‘Stealership’ go out of business?

[@mingho7882]

55k for a Mexican-made plastic truck? What a joke!

[@Rich_present-777]

Maybe federal government market intervention is contributing to this?

[@snafumagu]

It's the power plant on both the new Tundras and Tacomas that's the issue. They just don't have the gusto and reliability of the former generation. And no I wouldn't pay that much for either.

[@Baebon6259]

69k? That is a like 1/4 of my home. Nah.

[@johnnigri7269]

The twin turbo Tacoma’s & Tundras are going to sit on the lot due to price & unreliability!

[@Andyski-h9r]

I like the design of the new ones, I just don't like, lack of engine options, engine recalls, turbo charged and to top it all off, we get to pay more. I feel like the RnD team just said F it, let's release a new untested model to make everyone beta testers. I've owned turbocharged vehicles in the past. They require more maintenance. So now we have to buy more stuff to make the car functional, every 3-5k miles. It's a truck, not a sports car. If they gave truck guys a dependable, naturally aspirated engine at a reasonable price, they wouldn't be able to keep them on the lot!

[@revnation_auto]

It’s sad but their engineering team worked on these trucks for years. I’m a systems engineer and know their processes very well. They blew it. Sucks but it happens.

[@DugEphresh]

Are they going to replace the engines of all the Tacoma's on the lots too, lmao with the Toyota quality just going to crap. The Corolla GR's are voiding the warranty if you go over 85mph because the new 3 cylinder block is crap and borderline exploding.

[@revnation_auto]

Toyota engineers do not understand turbo charging. Mitsubishi and Dodge Are the best at it and they should have paid them to learn.

[@Frank-mo5ru]

Depends on what area you live in, the ladies love the pathfinders and rogue. I'm in the minority with my 23 pathfinder. Once the dealer gets a pathfinder or rogue, it's like pulling teeth buying one, they sell fast.. Nissan went down hill with quality, but we love the pathfinder, and no CVT.