Toyota Dealers in PANIC MODE as SALES PLUMMET!

[@Akecherfd8424]

People are broke. Everything skyrocketed in price. Stellantis greed spread to Toyota. Hopefully, people will stop buying any of these overpriced vehicles.

[@bojangles4704]

Stellantis is also paying the price for that behavior and Toyota should too

[@angelgjr1999]

Toyota prices are insane. Why pay over 40k for a BASE model RWD Tacoma, when 35k gets you a Nissan Frontier Pro4x with options? Oh and a basic reliable v6 NO turbo.

[@ryanside9117]

@@bojangles4704 Stellantis just got another 1 billion dollars from the tax payers. So yes, they’ve learned their lesson alright

[@MisterTwister222]

@@angelgjr1999 pro 4x is at least 42k

[@subaruamazon]

@@angelgjr1999 I read good things about frontiers.

[@qualitylandscapeandhauling7942]

$45k for a basic Tacoma ? No thanks !

[@CandlestickTV]

It's worth 20k no more 😂

[@kurtrussell5228]

@@CandlestickTV 35k

[@Martz7]

@@CandlestickTV 30-35k

[@UntamedMotors]

Agreed! Pretty appalling... smh

[@thumbsup9208]

25-30

[@Maverick1791]

Teach them all a lesson; TAKE YOUR WALLET & WALK!

[@UntamedMotors]

It's abundantly clear that Toyota is resting on their laurels... expecting people to buy their stuff no matter what. =/

[@donhtb1]

I support your idea

[@briand.5321]

You know folks are gonna continue buying unfortunately

[@Maverick1791]

@@briand.5321 You can’t fix STUPID!

[@Maverick1791]

@@briand.5321 Infortunately, I can’t fix stupid 😩

[@mikeyID]

People are going to stop buying new cars and trucks. Everything is overpriced. The automakers are committing financial suicide. When you stop putting their customers first, this is what you end up with.

[@rolytech212]

If everyone holds on trading or buying for 2 yrs I bet they’ll bring prices down or all go bankrupt. They are like a Mako shark.. waiting for customers to walk in and suck them dry. Not only enough with the high cost of the vehicle. They try selling you extras that you don’t even need, as low as nitro air for the tires. Is gotten way out of hand.

[@mikeyID]

@@rolytech212 I agree with you 👍🏼

[@UntamedMotors]

Amen to that. Well said!

[@rbrooks1305]

It's also the gov't fault. They're basically trying to legislate private ownership of vehicles OUT OF EXISTENCE. The manuf are having to jump through all of these expensive hoops for gas mileage and emissions and at the same time being pushed to make obscene investments in electric cars that most people don't even want. In addition, the gov't is spending and printing so much money that the value of US currency is becoming just a piece of paper. The gov't bares most of the blame in this whole scenario.

[@scottmendoza8989]

That's because they think the government is going to bail them out with the taxpayers money you watch

[@leejeffers1240]

I just purchased a fully loaded 2024 Nissan Frontier Pro4X naturally aspirated 6 cylinder engine $46,000 OTD. Proven engine and transmission performance. Truck built by American workers in Canton, MS. Hard pass on the over-priced 2024 turbo charged Toyota Tacoma built in Mexico.

[@UntamedMotors]

@@leejeffers1240 good decision man! Congratulations! Much better bang for your buck.

[@leejeffers1240]

@@UntamedMotors What are your thoughts on purchasing an extended warranty? I hope to keep my truck long-term so it may be worth the extra cost.

[@petergozinya6122]

I hope for your sake that Nissan learned how to build transmissions since my Xterra (The last Nissan I owned)

[@Youtubeuser1aa]

@@leejeffers1240buy that warranty bro … Also hope they don’t stop making parts for it. Nissan did a buy back on a car because they stopped making a part… gave him bad value on it

[@hanko8357]

Same here. Bought the 24 Pro 4X. So far it’s great.

[@FullsendOffroad]

"Don't buy them!!!! Let the prices drop more. Watch. It. Burn." Imagine these getting down 15-20k under MSRP

[@UntamedMotors]

Haha agreed. I'd comfortably buy one of these if they had that sort of drop.

[@vinceA3748]

Word. People are truly insane to be paying these prices. If the price drops enough, I may reconsider a Tacoma.

[@FullsendOffroad]

@@vinceA3748 I mean even 45k for a TRD Off Road premium would make sense.

[@jmbkc1]

We are getting there. Seeing $12k off msrp.

[@Rhaspun]

Yes. Let those greedy dealers who were adding surcharges to the price. Let a few dealers go,on the brink of bankruptcy.

[@scottberkobien2721]

Make ‘em in Mexico… then sell ‘em in Mexico.

[@daveb-d4t]

and rename them the NOVA [no go]

[@armandozepeda1692]

The Tundra is made in Texas bro

[@UntamedMotors]

Meanwhile every day on the freeway southbound you'll find a whole line of 90s Tacomas being pulled down to Mexico. Even they only want the good Tacomas in their country... Haha, can't say I blame em.

[@elchaps]

Hahaha Not Mexico There being sent to Central and South America 85%​ and anything built in Mexico is Also sold and Transported to Central and South America at a lower price, South American manufacturing plants produce vehicle's for South American all the way to Mexico Not able to be sold in the U.S The Hilux main One

[@elchaps]

That's every Make of Vehicle's built

[@rgray3173]

Driving the same Ford truck for 25 years. Power steering pump went out four years ago. Replaced it myself. Everything still works. Cold A/C. no payments for 18 years. I'm happy.

[@Cincithebest513]

Well now the f150 is a twin turbo v6 so keep your old ford

[@rgray3173]

@@Cincithebest513 Thanks. I will.

[@Stanging84]

Congratulations!

[@davidstinson1458]

Nissan…… here’s your opportunity don’t miss out!!!!!

[@kevinstarski1598]

Exactly...except they're not doing shit.

[@Getusom]

If Nissan was smart. They drop a bomb on the market and bring out a brand new all new redesigned Frontier with a v6…..they’d crush it. But like y’all said. They won’t do shit

[@elputoamo5686]

I prefer to walk than to drive a Nissan lol

[@fukngeoo]

Nissan kept the v6's and v8's.. And their trucks look sick. That's what they did. Their sales are already up

[@jeremiahalmos2643]

They should of been prepared for Toyotas failure, which always happens with new released vehicles. Nissan didn't capitalize!! Still bought a P4X! Fucking love it!!

[@honda116969]

Complex turbo, pricing, made in Mexico, the Tacoma it's just not what it use to be unfortunately

[@UntamedMotors]

Yeah the cons certainly outweigh the pros now... which is saddening.

[@Kea605]

People from jungle assembled Toyota, forgot about QC

[@puffnstuff12]

NAFTA....Ross Perot warned us what would happen now here we are.

[@rbrooks1305]

Trump is trying to warn us as well. But no one seems to be listening.

[@jeanclaude7018]

Blame the NWO JE$UIT William Clinton for pushing NAFTA for his globalist bosses.

[@memcrew1]

What did he say exactly?

[@woodjunkjrjr2689]

@@memcrew1He said NAFTA was bad for 'Murica.

[@Petetony]

Yep it was a bad deal and we have been disadvantaged since

[@ConfirmedPatriot]

The fact that my ‘20 Tacoma TRD PRO MSRP was $46,655 vs $63,900 for a ‘24 is astonishing.

[@Jay-me7gw]

But those seats

[@jeanclaude7018]

@@ConfirmedPatriot Mexican quality don't come cheap...

[@MrTigerStarX]

Greedy for sure.

[@Montesmike15]

I mean the TRD Pro is Baja ready straight out of the box, people who buy tacos will spend roughly the same with aftermarket parts... so...

[@Jay-me7gw]

@@Montesmike15 yes but people who buy TRD pros will still throw the stock shocks and wheels/tires in the trash and replace them with kings and methods that they could have put on a TRD OR

[@loum.4377]

Toyota like Ram and Ford are Very Greedy!! No Sale!

[@Stanging84]

NO SALE!

[@timalan7406]

My local dealer historically had around 15-20 Tacoma's and 10-12 Tundra's total Here is what they have now: 59 Tacoma's and 57 Tundra's on the lot. 25 Tacoma's and 11 Tundra's in transit 9 Tacoma's and 0 Tundra's in production. ------------------------------------- 93 Tacoma's and 68 Tundra's in total! WOW

[@MegaCityOne]

I've seen more CyberTrucks on the road than Tacoma's. That's alarming.

[@LAAM619]

​@@MegaCityOne omg bro i ddnt even think of that but yes. Ive seen way more cyber trucks than tacomas lol. Thas crazy.

[@richardMenken-qi5qq]

Drove a 24 Tacoma while my 23 Tundra was in the shop. Tacoma is way too small for us. Keeping my Tundra!

[@kurtrussell5228]

@@richardMenken-qi5qq 23 tundra in the shop?.... well so much for Toyota reliability

[@mertz313]

@@MegaCityOnedamn you’re right lmao

[@GregTN_Mountains]

I know absolutely no one that can afford a 70k-80k truck! Who in the world is buying these things?? Especially right now the way the economy is! It's all I can do just to keep groceries on the table!

[@JiTengful]

Middle class and rich class, not for us brookie 😅

[@romankartsev220]

they finance them and go broke from $1500 monthly payments.

[@Bryan-yq9pz]

Single males in their 20's and 30's that live at home with parents. I know a guy just like that, nothing else to blow his money on.

[@spunkush]

Middle class should be buying 30k cars, not 60k cars. ​@@JiTengful

[@Jay-me7gw]

We live in a fairly large country. If they sell 30k Tundras at $80k a piece, that's only 0.8% of the country that buys one. The top 8% of households make $250k or more a year. Thats 27 million people that can buy a truck that costs that much. Plenty of people have money to buy these things.

[@James-qq2vq]

Most people buy a brand new car so they could remove any worries of it breaking down. Especially when buying a Toyota. But now that Toyota reliability is questionable, people aren't going to take the chance.

[@jeanclaude7018]

Except fanboys.

[@LoveLikeaHurricane]

@@jeanclaude7018fan boys are a disease 🦠

[@osvalditochirino3428]

You are correct

[@AdventureStop]

Toyota corporate will say it’s inflation that’s causing low sales…when they themselves are the cause of the inflation.

[@krewjones]

100%

[@russbilderback]

Except much, if not ALL of it IS inflation.

[@justsayin3600]

If Toyota ruins the 4RUNNER they will be in deep 💩

[@Scott.B70]

Changing it at all is ruining it. It's literally the best vehicle on the road right now.

[@romankartsev220]

They will, they probably gonna put 2.4 liter turbo or hybrid in 4runner next year and it will become trash just like they are becoming now...

[@scottmendoza8989]

Of course they are they using the four-cylinder Turbo Toilet

[@morpheus1818]

It's a shame but yes, they are going to ruin the 4Runner as well. I'm glad I bought a 5th Gen when I could.

[@ejesoriginal]

I think they already have with the powertrain. The only saving grace it might have is that it is still made in Japan and should be built better, but that will probably change too.

[@RareGenXer]

Advise: Instead of the $57,000 "TuRD". Save $25,000 and get a US built Nissan Frontier S with a NA V6.

[@CMBBmc-jd6ur]

That’s what I did last month.

[@kurtbeck5809]

And I just purchased a 24 Nissan Titan pro4x for a great deal and zero percent financing for 5 years!

[@SandBar1998]

I purchased a Titan Pro 4X on 8/24/24. Traded my tiny cramped Taco.

[@bocadelcieloplaya3852]

Yup, a Nissan Frontier with a North American V6.

[@allanriley4070]

Thank you Toyota for moving overseas and yet jack up your prices.

[@jefft2452]

This is happening in the cycling industry too. Prices of bikes went up drastically during Covid. Now there is oversupply and all brands are discounting heavily.

[@UntamedMotors]

Interesting. Thanks for sharing that. Crazy how prices took a synthetic spike during the pandemic.

[@ljtowers5161]

My whole family has been Toyota for about 20 years, all we bought was Toyota with the exception of a Jeep Wrangler for a year. Now we no longer look to buy new Toyotas. I recently bought a 2009 v6 Rav4 and it's great but that was the old toyota. My family has switched to the new Mazdas for a family crossover SUV and they are awesome, naturally aspirated, no CVT's, simple tasteful touchscreens, not too big, most controlls are still buttons, they look luxurious inside, no engine start stop bullshit at default. As for pickups, we would probably just get a used Tacoma rather than a new one.

[@marcodarko6941]

I wasn't happy when they axed the v6 in the Rav4 and I could see it coming for the other models down the line.. the Highlander, Sienna and now recently the 4Runner, Tacoma and Land Cruiser.

[@Dojo-v6m]

Isn't Mazda made by Ford now? If so, yikes

[@UntamedMotors]

I know so many people who made the jump to Mazda and they're super pleased with them. Good call man!

[@chfpontiac5849]

​​@@Dojo-v6m No. They weren't "made" by Ford. Actually, for a long time, alot of Ford vehicles and engines were actually re-skinned Mazdas. Ford owned 1/3 of Mazda at one point but divested from them several years ago. One of Mazda's minority owners (5%) is now Toyota.

[@Dojo-v6m]

@@chfpontiac5849 Gotcha, that's good to know. I'll have to check Mazda out

[@vee985]

The time is ripe for a basic 25K pickup. 70K pickup for a blue collar working man?😂

[@brokeboy87]

The only truck starting that low is probably the Hyundai Santa Cruz or the Ford Maverick. Most compact trucks start around 30k.

[@UntamedMotors]

Agreed! People just want simplicity, reliability and affordability. No bells and whistles that bring the price up another $40-50K.

[@averageguy1261]

Yep.

[@brianellis81]

My first home was a condo on the lake in a nice city for 79k lol.

[@tdz69]

70k is a down payment on a house. wtf is going on??

[@MrChipDouglas1]

Inflation,EPA, and corporate greed.

[@kurtbeck5809]

The first two are paramount

[@hamsterbrigade]

The world is literally on fire, and you are all giving the EPA shit for trying to curb emissions? lol. Let's be honest, people are just broke and these trucks cost too much but you guys will turn it into anything you want. Crying about turbos being complicated when tons of vehicles have been running turbos reliably for decades.

[@harysuper]

True, but Nissan can sell their truck with a naturally aspirated V6 still

[@hottew_twat3963]

BIDENOMICS, COVID MANDATES, NO GOVERNMENT GIVES A FUKS

[@rbrooks1305]

Honda Pilot is also V6 at the moment.

[@ElChupahuahua]

Last week, my Toyota dealership offered me $46K for my 2021 Tacoma TRD Pro in Lunar Rock w/31K miles. I didn't even pay $46K for my truck when new. They are getting desperate.

[@jhilarios]

What do you think this means? The older ones are better?

[@jimmulderig743]

I bought Toyota for years and I switched. The dealer I dealt with for 12 years was just greedy and customer loyalty meant nothing. My last vehicle was 2023 highlander with the 4 cly turbo nothing but issues it was in shop 4 times with turbo issues and oil leaks.

[@UntamedMotors]

Yeah that was perhaps the most frustrating part... dealers started cherishing the mighty dollar more than loyal customers. They began treating their customers like another brick in the wall... and well, now many of those dealers are wishing they hadn't taken that approach.

[@jimmulderig743]

@@UntamedMotors, in my case the young service people on staff that knew absolutely nothing .

[@jeanclaude7018]

Come on. The fanboys tell me that Toyotas are perfect and walk on water. They would NEVER lie.

[@1970sRacing]

their greed caused the issue--they took advantage of customers during covid

[@craigslistseller9354]

4Runner = DOA

[@brontoab1]

I had planned on buying a 4 Runner soon. I will not buy the new crap they're making.

[@UntamedMotors]

It's been foreshadowed for sure... It'll share the same exact underpinnings of this new Tacoma. BUT to be fair, it'll be made in Japan still... so I bet it'll have some better QC measures in place.

[@Jay-me7gw]

@@UntamedMotors You mean just like the Japan made LX600 motors that suffered the same problem as the Tundra? 🤣

[@justanaveragejoe9416]

Was at a Toyota dealership last Sunday. 2years ago they had 1 or 2 tundras for sale and added on 5000 mark-up. Now no mark-up and probably 8-10 tundras on the lot. They had 6-8 Tacomas at 42k and added 5k in addons, but gave a 10% reduction sign on the windshield. Ridiculous

[@dariusmaroszyk283]

I believe Toyota is done. I was Toyota guy for almost 40 years. Started in Europe with Corolla 1,5 diesel, then Sienna and Tundra which I totaled this year January with 365000 miles on it. They totally screwed customers turning their back and laugh. They rise prices without any economical reason and lower quality at the same time. They started to be sure, that people gonna buy whatever Toyota sells without asking questions. This is Japanese mentality. They are salty and rude. So after all these years I was looking for new Tundra but $70000 …oh no! Switched to Chevy Colorado. Made 60000 miles so far without any problems. I don’t even look toward Toyota anymore.

[@krninja22]

They aren't done as long as people are still willing to buy. They sold over 90,000 Tundra's alone this year, they aren't slowing down because American's love their debt.

[@kpmmsupervision1297]

@@krninja22getting there, doesn’t happen overnight.

[@kpmmsupervision1297]

For Toyota losing a loyal customer for 40 a plus years is a big deal for Toyota sir!

[@dariusmaroszyk283]

@@krninja22 Maybe you right but here comes the moment when people simply can’t afford to take another loan. I rented a new Tundra from Toyota Continental , IL, for two days. Looked very closely for mechanical part of it. Now we have two turbos, two air filters , two mass flow sensors … everything double. Maintenance cost is double now. Imagine after warranty . Who’s gonna repair it. With high buying price, Toyota made their parts even more expensive. In my opinion time will show, They did exactly what Mercedes did in the end of 80’s and start of 90’s.

[@Dojo-v6m]

If they'd sell the turbo 6 any where close to the MSRP of 40K, It would be just fine. All the turbo haters haven't read enough about how reliable they can be

[@josephsmith9130]

Ridiculous prices, Toyota and everyone else has lost their minds.

[@Amilcchh]

I just acquired a 22 Sport tacoma. Dealer insisted I take a 24 taco. They offered a better interest and a discount. I respectfully declined.

[@AutoEnthusiastJC]

When I see new tacomas driving around, I just think that the person is an idiot, because I know they spent full size truck money for a midsize truck. Toyota tax isn’t worth it now that they are turbo 4s.

[@boomdoggy]

Voting with pocketbooks…c’mon people vote to get rid of this current administration and their ilk. 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@furiahispanica3823]

Yeah they are the ones subsiding these Turbos, Hybrid s, and all electric mandates that no customer wants, I want to see Democrats buy these vehicles since they voted for this crap. Hopefully they will use common sense and bring back the adults, not a DEI/ESG clown show.

[@lorimcquinn3966]

Current administration has nothing to do with this. You obviously missed a little thing called Covid-19. This opened the door for the biggest industry scam in history. Across all lines.

[@davidnuxoll7074]

So a Mexican made TRD Off Road over 50k? Yet an American made Nissan Frontier Pro4x is around 45k fully optioned out. No brainer Nissan. And for those Taco zealots who say Toyota reliability historically speaking Tacoma has had 45 recalls vs Frontier has had 29.

[@scottmendoza8989]

They're going for even less than that Anansi off-road package with a V6

[@johnfowler7813]

Yep frontier is the way to go

[@Slammingutz]

Toyota Motor Corporate Greed is strong across the Toyota Motor Company. So sad to see my once favorite car company has fallen so hard and fast. Bye bye Toyota. Do not buy a Toyota until they get the message from their customers.

[@jeanclaude7018]

@@davidnuxoll7074 Ouch. TOYOTA fanboys do NOT like actual statistics. Lies work much better for them.

[@davidnuxoll7074]

@@jeanclaude7018 don’t want to say lies but many Taco or 4Runner owners or “experts “ are under 30 years old so they may only know one or two generations. Kinda same thing with Tundeas as they also had frame issues. Toyota just as more “robust” marketing and fancy badges on vehicles. No other car market for Toyota has as many trim levels with offroad badges as the US. A Hilux and Tacoma have little in common. Americans think they’re getting a Hilux and they’re not.

[@alxtan1]

The fools who buy cars with dealer markups is what messes it up for the rest of us. Same goes for houses. The fools who pays a million dollars for 1000 square ft houses screws it up for others.

[@paulboden7850]

Toyota may not survive this fiasco.

[@DEEZEEMTB]

They will be ok…

[@mxerb5912]

lol ok

[@UntamedMotors]

It'll definitely have some lasting ripple effects but they are the world's largest auto manufacturer. They'll always recover... I just hope they pivot back to their core values a bit.

[@monkeysezbegood]

@@UntamedMotors What are there core values? The lead the world in hybrids for a long time. People want lower operating costs. Toyota sales overseas are falling quickly as the don't have and EV offering. Look at Toyota sales in China..... down down down

[@SeekYHWHsface]

A domestic fan I hear

[@punkt7752]

The interest rates are insane

[@Maverick1791]

@@punkt7752 Let’s not forget the insurance premiums 😩

[@CoryMp3]

But its also the prices, its mostly prices. The Average american Family Household earns 78,000 USD a year. Thats two adult earners in the household. They CANNOT afford to be buying $65000-75000 cars. And look around everyone is doing it, just drive for 10 minutes in any major city and its all 2020 or newer cars, which is way repos are up 25%, because everyone is neck deep in debt. If they are in Texas and married they are getting $2600 paychecks every two weeks. $5200/mo (assuming no savings for retirement. If they have a reasonable Mortgage of $2200/mo. They have $3020 a month left over for EVERYHING else. They cannot afford to walk in, trade in a car for $9500, put $12,000 down in cash (which only 10% of Americans have 10,000 in savings.) and have a $620/mo payment for 6 years. Not to mention it'll be $230/mo for insurance since its financed and they need to budget $300 in gas. Thats $1160 a month (payment,insurance,gas). Lets add in $50 a month for maintinence. Thats $1200 a month for someone that has $3000 to live on after house payment. It just AINT happening. everyone maybe trying to do it, but its why everyone has insane amounts of debt. They need to be able to trade in the old car for $9500, put $3500 cash down and have a $280 payment for 6 years. Really 75% of americans need to back off these cars and start buying 10 year old used cars that are priced in the $15000-20000. If your household only earns $80,000 a year. Neither parent gets to have $50,000+ vehicles. Both parents need to have $18,000 cars. I'm not married, no kids, early 30s and earned $80k the year I bought my 2015 Rubicon Wrangler. It was used Bought it in 2017. Had all the money in cash and bought a $26,000 car. I'd be in idiot to buy a $60,000 car today and earn over 100k now, and I have substantial cash savings. Average person is stupid, 90% of people are behind the wheel of a car they cannot afford. In 2023 44% of americans had $500 or less dollars in a savings account.......... Like how the hell does everyone feel like they can be driving $60,000 cars. finance.yahoo.com/news/americans-savings-stack-2023-vs-140023973.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAABqxkB63yQ5wfrCdhY92vRwiy5xhCOGUzwLwYNsq0pVcOs5pweBeUmMuANZwjaYy8LqRUN7Ur2qICWoOZCGxnZSADeo7CMl5OUW-BUvRRwuC6ki2TKFnXjStjvy6iRNtG1cXX7YuqcO6Am0U2zV-BPGaJzojvBFej-EBXaeeVhkm

[@Maverick1791]

@@CoryMp3 Its obvious you put a lot of effort into your response. My compliments. Its all anout living BELOW YOUR MEANS. I currently drive a 2002 Ford Explorer Eddie Bauer (original owner) with 190k on the odometer. If you do the schedule maintenance, it will last 10+ years. Look at the repo rate right now. With a pending recession coming its only going to get worse. If your willing to pay $70+ for a vehicle, increase your “MEANS” so you can afford it. Its very simple method to live by!

[@CoryMp3]

@@Maverick1791 I agree. Let me ask you, As a pretty young guy, 2008 was before I was a full time worker. I didn't have a mortgage or retirement saves, or planning for kids. How bad do you expect this recession to be? I see a bunch of indicators of a downturn I just do not know what to expect.

[@Maverick1791]

@@CoryMp3 I’m not an economist but i follow the economy carefully since I retired 2 years ago. You sound like you’re around 25? Follow my simple advice on living below your means!! You can’t save any money if you live at / above your means. ITS THAT SIMPLE!!!

[@LeoTalks_RealTalk]

Not only about the Tacoma or Tundra but overall the dealerships keep playing loyal customers with these prices, fees, rates, and dealer add ons.

[@UntamedMotors]

Yeah dealerships unfortunately showed their true colors during the pandemic... Greed got the best of many of them. =/

[@Jay-me7gw]

The couple of Toyota dealer I have been in are the worst. They were so pompous and obnoxious. I literally had more enjoyable experiences at the little hole-in-the-wall used car lots I bought my last two cars at. They never bothered me, they were pleasant to deal with, and their prices were already very fair without me having to fight with them.

[@simonchen6698]

@@UntamedMotors These dealerships are still out of their minds!! I went to test drive a 2019 v6 Sienna the other day. List price at $24k with 100k miles. They popped open the tailgate, and it was soooo dirty and disgusting. "Oh hm..looks like they haven't detailed this one yet." the rep says haha. I am currently closing out a Sedona with HALF that cost OTD at the same amount of miles, in way better condition. Again, these Toyo dealers are out of their minds!!

[@JA-zh5xi]

Been a Toyota family for over 20!years. Bought two 2024 Subarus this year. I’m not paying a premium for Toyota because they don’t know how to manage their supply chain.

[@imabebebebe2496]

subaru is just the better toyota

[@Dojo-v6m]

​@@imabebebebe2496What do you base that on?

[@Dojo-v6m]

A friend of mine that is a master technician at a rental car company has told me that he would not buy a Suburu. It's not that they are any worse than the other brands he works on, mainly Fords and GMs, it's that the parts are so expensive

[@R281]

​@@imabebebebe2496those boxer engines aren't reliable.

[@romankartsev220]

@@imabebebebe2496 subaru uses cvt its a weak transmission. Only good thing about subaru is the observation and awd.

[@HomesteadOverlandVirginia]

I used to be a Toyota fan thanks to your channel. I bought myself a brand new 2024 Nissan Titan Pro 4XXD Baja storm and I love it.

[@UntamedMotors]

@@HomesteadOverlandVirginia Glad to hear you’re loving it! =]

[@HomesteadOverlandVirginia]

@@UntamedMotors yeah I wanted to get a tundra, but I’m totally disappointed in Toyota and thanks to you and other people talking about what’s going on with Toyota you probably save me a big headache and a lot of money

[@tomlavelle8340]

Pickup trucks have become too big and too expensive for years.

[@christopherthompson9642]

Usually people will roll the dice even if there are recalls. The problem is simple…. To expensive.

[@stockey]

People don't want a Mexican turbo four banger pickup.

[@danielloz8282]

We do, just at a better price lol

[@bigeee3123]

I agree, they stopped the v8 and replaced it with a V6 and the V6 was replaced with the 4 cylinder 👎🏼

[@dave3657]

I like Toyota, but when they start throwing turbos under the hood, and marking up the price. No thanks. 👎🏻

[@stephenpuccio8373]

They’re shocked that people can no longer afford absurdly high prices??

[@montecraig7032]

Every time we go to the grocery store or get an insurance premium notice that puts a damper on buying big ticket item.

[@DB-we2wk]

All I've ever bought is Toyotas. Not anymore. Nothing but overpriced junk that'll leave you stranded.

[@simonchen6698]

For real. Corolla GT engines smoking and then bursting into flames cause you go over 85 mph, and Toyota says they won't give you any money back because you went over 85mph? lolol yah, no thx!!

[@RellupNorth]

This is an extreme take lol but Toyota is sliding

[@Stanging84]

These vehicles are made so cheaply. Look cheap. They feel cheap. Just a bunch of scrap metal. Put together them cheap plastics and you people pay an arm and a leg for them . SMH. These manufacturers got you guys wrapped around their fingers

[@Rhaspun]

Yes. Closing the doors on a new Lexus GX. It has a tinny sound to it. They could of put some sound deadener on the door. The hood also shakes a bit when driving at freeway speeds.

[@jmyers6175]

I personally will buy Toyota exclusively. No others. Definitely not Nissan. I absolutely detest the name!! Buy new maybe next year.. love your channel ❤

[@bobbyb.1743]

Toyota has strayed from their core competencies, ie., reliability, quality, stellar fit & finish @ a reasonable price, which use to make them an incredible value! They’re now delivering marginal quality, unreliable, and cheaply assembled vehicles at a much higher price. Bad, bad business plan!

[@mrpmj00]

i just traded in my 2014 Toyota highlander for a 2024 Cadillac XT4….love it! my other car is a 2017 Corvette with stickshift

[@ZacTexC]

I live in Colorado where you see 4Runners and Tacomas everywhere but not the new Tacomas and I’m sure it’ll be the same for the 6th gen 4R

[@annieb1011NE]

Son lives in Littleton in Dakota Ridge area. I swear every other vehicle was a 4R or a Subaru. Bet they hang on their 5th Gen’s.

[@ZacTexC]

@@annieb1011NE know the area very well. My 2016 5th gen has 115K and still going strong. I bet these new 4 bangers won’t be so lucky at 100K

[@annieb1011NE]

@@ZacTexCI refuse to buy a 4banger!! V6 NAE and no compromise. Thinking of a 2022-2023 used with low miles so I can make the back and forth trips Omaha to Denver and up to Estes. Might wait for Nissan Xterra. It might be amazing! 4:48

[@RobotDad]

Thanks to your influence - just put down a $500 deposit on a 2024 4Runner TRD Off-Road Premium due to arrive towards the end of this month.

[@UntamedMotors]

Awesome man! Congratulations! Hope you enjoy it. 🙌

[@hunterstokely8438]

Those Tacoma transmissions that were having issues were built in Japan… I don’t think it’s just vehicles coming out of Mexico. I think Toyota needs to get their stuff together with quality control all around.

[@UntamedMotors]

That is a good point to make, thank you!

[@njseashorechas2698]

I wanted a Corolla manual hatch back and there were ZERO in stock in the New Jersey tri state area! I bought a Mazda 3, They are plentiful and great cars!

[@barneygo2010]

My 2022 Corolla Hatchback with 6 manual transmission is fabulously running and nobody can steal it because millennials don’t drive stick! Life is Good!!

[@josephkelleher8820]

All vehicles WAY overpriced. Keeping my 12' Altima until it dies. Met a guy this weekend with an 08' Altima. He told me car still running great with 243,000 miles with original engine and transmission.

[@SliderFury1]

2000 - 2017ish Nissans, Toyotas, and Hondas were peak reliability.

[@jeanclaude7018]

@@SliderFury1 Actually, websck into the late 80s.

[@CARBINEZzZzZ]

Ill just keep buying 20 year old full sized trucks for 10K when one dies. Paying over 50k for a midsized truck is absolutely insane.

[@ggarrison1087]

last time i tried to ship a car from the europe to US it was 16k. from asia i cannot imagine. so how they moved to mexico and needed 20k raise is nuts

[@jdr03272]

Will someone explain to me why you would buy any of these tacomas instead of a low mileage 2021 Tundra? I just bought two 2021 Tundra 1794 CrewMax trucks in the last calendar year. Just under 50k each out the door - trade and down payment. What does the new Tacoma give you over that truck? These unreliable forced induction meager 4 cylinders, relatively tiny interior cab volume, thousands of pounds less payload in tow capacity? What, so you can get a bigger screen?

[@auntiefiat9769]

I have $50k in my vehicle fund and I am not spending it! Prices are up, quality is down. I will keep my old stuff running.

[@DanGilliland-pi4vh]

The same thing for our household, we are maintaining our older, more simpler and reliable older vehicles that are way better built and far cheaper to insure.

[@DoctorTaco636]

Toyota dealership failed the state inspection on my 2019 Tacoma trying to sell me a new steering rack. Said it was leaking but it wasn’t. I took it to another shop and they agreed it wasn’t leaking. Theyre hurting… and if they’re gonna treat me like that… no thanks

[@davidnguon6972]

No V6 and to much good bye toyota said

[@Tankerpaul223]

Simply don't buy them.

[@rc846]

Toyota put the V6 Twin Turbo into the Tacoma And put the 5.7L V8 back into the Tundra Listen to your customers not the EPA. Just saying.

[@carlgriner9255]

We have bought Toyota for years our last years being 2017 and 2019 We are finished with Toyota Greed loses you good Customers forever

[@marcodarko6941]

Same here. We have three.. two 2016 models and a 2023. I won't be a returning customer in the future. They should have known to not screw the customer over to please the government bureaucracy.

[@Dayota___]

The 4th Gen Tacoma passenger space feels a lot smaller and less leg room than the 3rd Gens 😢

[@zanbaktoo420]

Go buy a van lol

[@Dayota___]

@@zanbaktoo420 I’ll skip the van and get a Semi truck instead

[@jeepsterct]

Just looking at them

[@Michael-hj3jg]

Your 100% correct we didn’t want turbos nor hybrids , we wanted reliability with a hint of gas savings not this crap

[@Desertbiker617]

I am sick of trucks as every day daily driver. Maybe people come in senses for cars as the norm.

[@jaybeezee4013]

That's funny. Was just at the toyota dealership where I live and they can't keep enough new Camrys and Tacomas. They got a few Tundras with plenty more on the way...

[@tsunami6253]

I mean, people would rather have a solid down payment for a home than a vehicle right now.

[@DanGilliland-pi4vh]

Well probably. Especially the more expensive vehicles are way too expensive and a brutally depreciating asset that will within 4-5 years loose half of its value combined with the very expensive insurance .we have order ones we keep maintained and low cost liability insurance.

[@richardstralow6314]

Hey....thanks for all the information you provide. I look forward to more from you.

[@DannyFyffe]

The answer won't change. Prices need to come down 15-20K on most of the Tundras and Tacos. A minimum of 10K on everything else. When they do, they will win many back.

[@UntamedMotors]

Agreed. They'd artificially inflated their price tags beyond reason. It's strange seeing 10-12K discounts on Toyotas. That historically has been something only seen with domestic trucks.

[@patpeacock8150]

Prices would have to go down 50% before people could afford to buy them

[@mrshiney2]

Those trucks will make good homeless shelters

[@jeanclaude7018]

@@mrshiney2 At least it's got a big TV.

[@Sekireiize]

thanks for the video! Is there much discount off msrp currently for sequoia?

[@hairtrigger2438]

They can keep every one of them for that price.

[@pambowe2846]

Great analysis Untamed. ❤

Blame the customers for wanting a short term power boost and all the latest tech. That!! Kills reliability. Simplicity is the key, and always has been. But, customers were addicted to bells and whistles.

[@kevinbaughman4207]

I bought my 2 Toyota's for the fact that they were simple, and they weren't laden with overcomplicated bells and whistles . '94 Camry LE and '14 FJ Cruiser .

[@constitutionalright827]

You can thank the EPA requirements, not the customers. Literally 80% of the customer base or more wants NOTHING to do with these changes.

[@rbrooks1305]

Absolutely, it's the out of control EPA.

[@Zcudazz]

My niece owns a 23 tundra do you know how to identify which ones had the debris in the engine problem? Is there a specific date made possibly?

[@patrussell3650]

I plan to trade my 2023 TRD Pro 4runner with 3400 miles and my 2018 TRD OR with 103,000 for a vacation home in Fiji in a couple years.

[@jarad0714]

My son just purchased that same Corolla as the one u just show in the video.. we get it for 2000 above invoice.. And he is in the army so he even got money off.. He paid 22,400 OTD for it in Alabama..

[@kurtrussell5228]

Rip off!!!

[@karmabeatONs]

​@@kurtrussell5228you should see the prices in Canada disgusting pigs....hope the lots fill up for years

[@fpineda101]

Is a Nissan Pathfinder or Frontier, either one with a V6, a worthy alternative? Please share your thoughts

[@Jojo-ni2cg]

Thanks untamed!

[@ChadManCreations]

OK, my tundra stopped running. Toyota is doing a buyback so what do I buy instead of a Toyota tundra?

[@scottmendoza8989]

At least Frontier is made in America

[@UntamedMotors]

That’s true 👌

[@garywanner7860]

Glad to see people are rejecting the complex and complicated turbocharged engines in trucks. Keep it simple and basic for top reliability!

[@TheRealWalkingJourney]

No V8 engines and all hybrid engines no thank you. Plus all new vehicles have all black rims no thank you

[@johnlee270]

I still drive a 2003 Tacoma Prerunner running like new, cold air; the paint starts to fade off instead of trading in for a newer model! I use it for hauling while driving the other vehicles!

[@adamxeom]

Despite all the corporate greediness, Japanese brand made in Mexico? Who is buying into this? It’s like going to sushi restaurant but all chefs are Mexican… lmao 🤣. I’ll 🛑, hope someone see the point here

[@davidu01]

Yours is a simply OUTSTANDING detailed review of the new TACOMAs and TUNDRAs. KUDOS 👍

[@UntamedMotors]

Thanks brother. Appreciate that!

[@Merchant_Of_Chaos]

In 2023 I was on the hunt for a low mileage 2021 Tundra TRD Pro; found one with 11k miles. I gladly paid 4K more than the original owner paid when it was brand new. One of the best decisions I’ve ever made! The new Toyotas are rubbish.

[@UntamedMotors]

I've done the same thing and have ZERO regrets. We have the last of the Real Tundras. =] What color did you choose?

[@Merchant_Of_Chaos]

@@UntamedMotorsI think Toyota calls it magnetic gray. Basically charcoal.

[@Merchant_Of_Chaos]

@@JayKay-bb5qpGood luck with your battery powered V6

[@re14437]

I tried to buy a newLand Cruiser, but the dealer wanted a $20,000 markup over sticker. I left, and will never return to another Toyota dealer. I won’t forget.

[@UntamedMotors]

@@re14437 man that’s ridiculous… sorry to hear man. Greedy dealers ruined it for so many loyal customers.

[@danielsowers4310]

Gear head will be unable to tinker with hybrid engine. Unless they have knowledge in electric.

[@buraian2694]

Other youtubers said its easy cuz no moving parts. Me , its like troubleshooting inside a server room with rats nest wires.

[@UntamedMotors]

That's a fact!

[@Mechanical_Mind]

Plus, they make them so complex to work on, mechanics are quitting, prices going up for both labor parts, everything. All after paying a ridiculous purchase price.

[@lancewilson457]

My neighbors 2022 trd pro he paid $48,900, now $66,000+, that’s crazy

[@UntamedMotors]

Absolutely insane how Toyota thinks that sort of price hike is acceptable.

[@traviswillmarth5476]

Your right about the complexity

[@Crankinstien]

If Kamala wins it’s over

[@LK-bz9sk]

Either way sounds like she lives rent free in your head.

[@samueljames8368]

She will win. I’m not voting at all. Don’t care for what essentially is one party. It’s an illusion that you think there’s a difference between candidates

[@DUNEATV]

Exactly, if she does win, we will have a lot more to worry about than new car prices!

[@kurtbeck5809]

​@samueljames8368 but the policies are vastly different

[@indycharlie]

@@samueljames8368 BS !!

[@1andonlyjoeyb534]

I own a 2010 Toyota Tundra CrewMax Limited 5.7L V8 2wd with 52300 original miles! I'm the 2nd owner. My Dad was the first who bought it new for $36K in December 2009! The interior is near mint condition. Still has original factory stickers on undercarriage, including the drive shaft from the factory when built! Anyways I'm selling it. KBB LISTS IT AT $25K-$27K, and I'm taking offers on it. Been offered $22000 cash in hand, and I refused it. I guarantee you won't find another around across the U.S. because I've already searched,lol. I'm in the 33971 area code.

[@rbrooks1305]

My 1999 Chevy 3500 crewcab with 350 V8 at 105k miles is doing just fine as well. People try to buy it from me, my response is always "I'll be buried in this thing " . Upgraded the stereo last year to touch screen/DVD with Bluetooth. That's the biggest expenditure I've ever had on it.

[@vinceA3748]

I've got a 2007 Tundra TRD 5.7L. At 150K miles and it's been a dream. Never had any problems with it, just routine maintenance. You will never get this kind of reliability with these new fu fu engines in the current Tundras.

[@jeandelgado1037]

The new Land Cruiser is awesome, but I wasn’t crazy about the four-cylinder hybrid. But then they told me it had a lifetime warranty which is insane.