Toyota GR86 Ultimate Buyers Guide | WATCH THIS FIRST

[@RickStarzz]

I was shocked when I recently sold my 23 gr86 and got a c8 my insurance went down… crazy

[@datalt7873]

Your agent has a c8 and hooked you up lol

[@dr.magnanimous8973]

You are right! Just Googled the insurance costs of both cars and C8 is cheaper. Guess C8s have more mature guys driving them more sensibly.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

That's interested to see since they would both be fairly new!

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

My R8 costs less than the GR86 lol! Age is a factor in that too!

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Yeah! C8's would sit in the garage more than the 86!

[@omarsuarez8471]

Hey dude nice vid! I will say.... engine failure due to oil starvation is not because of the RTV. It is actually due to sustained right hand turns on track because of the oil pan and oil pickup design. The oil is shifted to one side at high speed cornering and not being picked up by the engine.

[@TypeVertigo]

And the fix for this depends on the use case. Most folks who drive their cars in the canyons can get away with a half-liter/half-quart oil overfill, while serious track rats will be well served by an external oil accumulator (e.g. Accusump or Moroso). A middle-of-the-road solution is either adding a baffle to the oil pan (SYMS seems the best reviewed of the lot) or an aftermarket larger capacity oil pan, which is currently being developed by Verus with good test results on track from @900BRZ.

[@darwinmonzingo9738]

they added baffles I was told to prevent that

[@gryphon123456]

Changing from the FRS to the GT 86 had some more substantial changes than just the name. You're underrepresenting it.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

What were the substantial changes?

[@gryphon123456]

@@BrosFOURRSpeed there was an increase in HP to 205 for manuals, the final drive the transmission had changed increasing the acceleration. Even some people w the GR will look for differentials from the refresh gen 1 to increase acceleration as they went back to the old drive for the GR series. And if I recall I think they increased the speed of the steering rack for sharper handling. Also some other mechanical improvements to the engine. Just an overall refresh that helped with the feel of the car.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

@@gryphon123456 I mentioned the HP increase, but I doubt people with a GR are searching for GT parts. The GR is significantly better overall than the Gt.

[@gryphon123456]

@@BrosFOURRSpeed yep. You’re correct. There’s big improvements in the GR that can’t be understated. The transmission however is transferable and has a shorter final drive which can still improve acceleration in the newer one with a shorter final drive. This means you get to shift more often and enjoy the action of doing so. Check out The Topher who did it in his 2023 BRZ. His video explains it. But your video was good and I’m glad you’re enjoying the GR86. Love them in that silver. 🤙🏻

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

@@gryphon123456 Thanks for sharing! Interesting to see for sure!

[@mneiheiserable]

Ordered my GR86 in August last year, just delivered. Had full ppf applied and ceramic (from the dealer, over and had to wait for ppf application from outside shop, but 5 year interior/exterior full warranty inside/outside for the new car that they nicely waited for ppf first and then applied after) applied. I dont care how silly people say this is. After full price destination, full 100% ppf, ceramic....ends up with from the dealer lifetime warranty on powertrain (Toyota of North Canton Ohio), Xpel 10 year ppf warranty, 5 year ceramic interior/exterior warranty, 10 year bumper to bumper extended warranty from the dealer....$39,759.49

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Glad you enjoy the car!

[@AmexZHD]

Me already purchased the car, watching the video now

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Sweet! We carry plenty of parts for the car if you need any! brosfourrspeed.com/parts-%26-merchandise/ols/categories/toyota--subaru-frs86brz

[@Va11idus]

Same here lmao

[@DRod79]

Great video you touched on a lot of things and gave great insight. I recently purchased the 2024 GR86 it is a little small, smaller than I thought but it's definitely an eye-catcher and a fun car to drive

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Glad it was helpful! And it’s definitely fun to drive!

[@PlymouthVT]

Would you mind saying how much you paid and how long of a wait please? I'm in the market.

[@DRod79]

@@PlymouthVT I got lucky it was in transit so I only waited I believe a week and a half to two weeks. 36 I paid

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

@@PlymouthVT wait for what? I found an 86 online and went the next day to purchase. They are out there and easily available.

[@PlymouthVT]

@@BrosFOURRSpeed Guess I'm not looking hard enough thanks.

[@brandoncavazos7965]

i paid $31,000 for a base model 2022 6MT BRZ with 4k miles, and im pretty satisfied with that thats like a Camry, Altima, Accord, Civic prices and I feel like im getting a lot more car and a lot less BS i dont want from modern cars 👍🏻

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Glad you are enjoying it!

[@sxelxe1961]

Great video, I just got the 2024 GR86 Premium Manual 6 speed and my insurance went down!! My previous vehicle was 2018 Toyota Corolla SE-CVT and before that the 2015 Corolla SE, they charge a lot for those SE models on insurance. I was delighted to find out my new 2024 GR86 is less!!

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

That’s cool! It’s more than my R8 which is crazy to see!

[@whosjms]

how much is ur insurance mo for ur 86?

[@sxelxe1961]

@@whosjms $147.00!

[@sxelxe1961]

@@whosjms I have the very top of insurance and GAP insurance, so anything happens I get a brand new one!

[@faautobahna9416]

Thanks. Very helpful and also for telling about the history of models.

[@its.Andy1]

5:40 it’s a controversial and different topic. But I will say power or the amount of cylinders doesn’t always determine the value of things. Sometimes it doesn’t justify the price either. For example, a car might have a big V8 that makes a lot of power, but maybe someone else might think the interior quality isn’t as nice, or maybe it’s lacking some features. Or you could have a car that has a really nice interior and fancy features, but it lacks power. Everything is only worth as much as you’re willing to pay. At least that’s the way I see it lol

[@dancooper6002]

There is no replacement for replacement. A V6 when there should be a V8 under the hood will not be made up by any amount of "features" or interior quality.

[@Saviorjack79]

So base model would be a good choice to pick rather than the premium model ? Planning to get one by the end of this year just deciding on either Auto or Manual 🤔

[@bxdreamz333]

Im getting a Base automatic this sunday, ill lyk how it goes 😂👌🏽

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Depends on what you want to spend. This isn’t my main vehicle, so I was ok with a base model. The premium has nicer seats and materials. Auto is great, but I love the manual in it!

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Congrats!

[@TrojanRabbit521]

Definitely get manual! Very easy to use and just adds that extra interaction you want in lightweight ‘low hp’ sports car. I love my ‘22 BRZ and would get another if anything happens to her.

[@user-m3w5g]

Great car , another nice review too , Cheers from NZ

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Glad you enjoy it!

[@damiangonzales2925]

RTV is still being found in the oil pick up with the new brz gr86 2022-2023 and may be found in some 2024

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

I must be lucky then, but from what I research, it’s been fixed.

[@Rtx_Fred]

I'm getting a used gr86 for my first car

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

That’s a good choice!

[@h0rrr]

hey man love your videos. quick question for you: i'm considering trading in my '22 G70 3.3 RWD sport prestige for a lightly used manual supra but was also thinking about maybe a 840i gran coupe and just get a cheap manual gr86 with it. since you've owned of the toyotas, do you think the gr86 will be enough to satisfy coming from a little bit higher end/powered cars previously?

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

It's a really fun car overall. It certainly is not refined or premium. So it might feel more like a toy to you. But that could be good. Very fun car to just rip on. Supra is a solid choice too. Very premium feeling with tons of power

[@raeallenyah9320]

Thank you for this video it’s so helpful and answered a lot of questions I’m currently saving up for one, love this car!

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Glad it was helpful!

[@Ryan73Latham]

What exhaust are you running? Sounds great.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

It’s an AWE kit! Here’s the install and link to product! kzbin.info/www/bejne/bn-zlaKlmpuBjM0si=tdIQQTKSN_2-pD-j brosfourrspeed.com/parts-%26-merchandise/ols/products/awe-cat-back-exhaust

[@hellowhat7803]

still do the RTV!!!!!!!!!!! people are redoing the RTV. people still find RTV in the pick up tube on the new 23 and 24. they still put a lot of RTV in it.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

I haven’t had any issues or concerns with that.

[@michaelw4930]

How does it compare to the 370z Nismo? There is a part of me that feels that replacing the Z with the GR86 - would update the entertainment factor; still have the fun factor but since I live in TX - I wonder if the lack of straight line speed would be missed (not to say my Z would be that much faster but I even feel the Z feels slow - although I feel like most of that is due to the weight).

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/foqwnK16fZWBbrs Here's an old video we made of the Nismo Z vs FRS back in the day. Nismo 370 is definitely faster and the next step up in performance. But the 86 is lighter and just super tossable. 86 is definitely slow in a line. So if you don't have super tight roads with lots of curves, you might get bored.

[@michaelw4930]

@@BrosFOURRSpeed Appreciate it - I remember checking out that video when it came out. I was more wondering how the new gen GR86/BRZ compares to the 370z since what I have heard - is that it is a much better car now compared to the previous gen. I'm just wondering if the new/current gen has caught up or even surpassed the driving experience of the Z. Granted - straight line speed I would imagine goes to the Z but is it closer than one would think? Anyway - great content and great cars as always :)

[@qra130]

If you sell your Z. Please let me know. It’s been a dream car of mine

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

@@qra130 You’re talking to me? I sold the Z about 5-6 years ago lol!

[@qra130]

@@BrosFOURRSpeed lol unfortunately no, I was asking Michael

[@Nick-hz2kl]

Great car , had one . Don’t get the base model. The upper trims get Alcantara seats , adaptive headlights , metal pedals and a better sound system .

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

I’m perfectly fine with the base model.

[@imSatin]

Im thinking getting one, but the only issue i have is the weather. I live in Canada where the winters are really bad and im afraid of how it will drive in bad weather

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

That might be a concern for sure!

[@itakenaps]

I live in MD in the US. We got slammed with snow this past winter. It does fine as long as it isn't like 6 inches on the ground and the roads are salted.

[@dannyhimmel4273]

My 2023 BRZ equipped with winter (Blizzack) tires and an extra 40 pounds in the trunk in New Brunswick this year was basically fine. If there was more than 10 cm of snow on the road, I waited until they were plowed. Also easing up on the gas when pulling into traffic helped keep the car on the road.

[@imSatin]

@@dannyhimmel4273 I understand that but with work I'm up early, and at times where the roads are not cleaned cause of more snow falling, as well with work I sometimes have to drive on roads that don't get cleared often depending on the job site

[@lashlarue7924]

totally a non issue due to excellent differential and weight balance - just get winter tires you'll be fine 👍

[@zedanijeff5993]

amazing videos guys,,,,big fan rh,..

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Thank you so much 😀

[@michaelcreekmore9534]

I know a lot of ppl are applauding all the additional history and information...I gotta admit, I felt like it was wasting my time. I wanted to learn about THIS car, not all the previous models and history. This video was probably 4-5m longer than it needed to be. JMHO

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

That was the point of this video though. We have separate review video if you want to see details, but this was an overall type of video. kzbin.info/www/bejne/iKjXZGubebNphJYsi=nKW3dA7IC3XakFti

[@michaelbarrett8803]

So is this a Subaru 2.5 Engine? What other Subaru cars have this same engine and what is the reliability of the engine?

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

It's a shared engine with the BRZ. Not sure what other models have this engine, but I didn't have any issues with it during my ownership. I'm sure you could check the forums for more info from owners who have had them for years.

[@arobjavan9481]

Excellent review

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Glad you liked it!

[@thereallabow5491]

How the heck did you get it for such a low price? I can’t find a base for less than 37k OTD here in California

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

It was at a Toyota dealer traded back in for a Supra. I paid just about its MSRP with 300 miles on it. How do you not find these under MSRP on the used market? Plenty on Autotrader. CA seems like an awful place to live with how expensive everything seems to be

[@J.R.F.23]

I ordered the BRZ over the GR86. The main reason is it's a Subaru motor. Subaru motors are Boxer Motors; while Toyota's do not use Boxer motors. Should an issue with the engine happen; I would feel much better having the mechanic the knows Boxer Motors, over those that do not work on them regularly. As for the RTV issue it's still happening; but the problem seems to happen when tracking the cars (to some of them). If you are not tracking the car and you change your oil often, you should be okay.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

The Toyota utilizes the boxer engine, it’s the same engine, there’s no difference. Toyota uses the boxer motor in the 86... You could take a Toyota to Subaru and they could work on it.

[@J.R.F.23]

@@BrosFOURRSpeed I know it’s an identical engine. However while under warranty I don’t think Toyota would cover bringing the vehicle to a Subaru dealer/mechanic.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

@@J.R.F.23 I owned a lotus with the 3.5L V6 from the Camry, and took it to a Toyota dealer once. They knew how to work on the engine, so I’m sure that would be fine.

[@michaelsison5097]

May I know the name of the kit? Planning to buy one this month. Thanks.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Which kit? Here’s a link to all the parts! brosfourrspeed.com/parts-%26-merchandise/ols/categories/toyota--subaru-frs86brz

[@michaelsison5097]

@@BrosFOURRSpeed thanks. How much ground clearance do you have now with that kit?does it scrape with speed bumps?

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

@@michaelsison5097 I lowered my car as well so it got pretty low. I didn’t scrape where I live but I don’t have too many areas to be concerned about. Stock height though should be fine.

[@Pharaoh_The_Great]

I like the previous gen more.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Good option too

[@kevindepew8193]

What V6 or V8 Car is more fun for $40K? The Mustang. Faster yes. More fun. Not likely. They weigh way too much. Don't get me wrong, I would NEVER pay $40K for a used car or a car which has an MSRP in the $30's.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Yeah at the price of a brand new GR86. Hard to find another more fun car aside from the Miata

[@BarrySlisk]

$30.000!! I wish. I live in Denmark. Due to taxes it's $80.000 here!

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Oh wow thats crazy!

[@BarrySlisk]

@@BrosFOURRSpeed Enjoy the freedoms you have left. Not all of us are so lucky ;)

[@bj10jgo]

what kind of front lip splitter and rear corner spats is that?

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Here’s the links to both! brosfourrspeed.com/parts-%26-merchandise/ols/products/gr86--brz-2022-v2-carbon-fiber-rear-side-spats brosfourrspeed.com/parts-%26-merchandise/ols/products/gr86--brz-2022-v2-carbon-fiber-splitter

[@JaxAssassin]

Wait, I didn't think GR corollas came in automatics

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

They do now!

[@KUROSAKURA01]

I just bought Premium AT with the full GR package with 8 years of coverage for paint and interior. Was 46.5k out the door. Great for my credit score, poor for my wallet.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

It shouldn’t cost that much at all, a premium should have cost you $35K if that. It’s a fun car, but that’s expensive.

[@kaaworii]

that’s an insane price… that’s supra money 😭

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

@@kaaworii I know right! For $40K, there’s much better options. Sub $32K, the Gr86 is a good buy.

[@flubberlane8437]

Can my feet 🦶 reach the gas pedals ? I’m pretty short.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

You’d have to sit in one and see!

[@Kev_N_1976]

The second gen cars have RTV issues still but the real issue is drops in oil pressure for people tracking their cars. If you daily drive your car it won't blow up. If you track your car long high G right hand turns can cause a drop in oil pressure that can cause damage. These are great cars but research the loss of oil pressure and go from there.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

I’ve heard of it but don’t know anyone who’s actually had that issue.

[@LNatureblush]

This video is very informative and it is a bonus that you are super cute

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Thank you!

[@Triggaaar]

You forgot the GR Yaris Re the RTV: The first (and still current) gen of the GR86 started in 2022, so it's not an issue with anything from 2017-2021. It hasn't been fixed. The issue (whether it's related to RTV or not) seems to be caused by oil pressure drops in right hand turns on track.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

We don’t have the GR Yaris in the US market. So I didn’t forget it because it’s not available for us.

[@Triggaaar]

@@BrosFOURRSpeed Just trying to help. You said that Toyota have 3 vehicles under the GR brand. They have 4, even though they're not all available in all markets. The GR Corolla isn't available Europe, but GR do make it.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

@@Triggaaar True they make it, but I’m only focused on vehicles in the market I live. No need for me to talk about other markets since I can’t even drive one or check it out.

[@Bin-jw6yt]

i wonder why the previous owner sold it with only 400 miles driven.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

He was waiting on his Supra and it came in early.

[@KrisCortez]

Whats the exhaust setup?

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

I have the AWE track edition exhaust! kzbin.info/www/bejne/bn-zlaKlmpuBjM0

[@lujinoh]

Can you drive this during the winter without the winter tires

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Depends on your definition of winter. In NC it's no big deal. But winter in Michigan you would want snow tires. Just depends on how cold your winter actually gets

[@lujinoh]

​@@BrosFOURRSpeedI live in Michigan, and I am trying buy Gr86 , it's 2022 with 9000 miles manual and have some 5000to10000 dollars modified. And it's like 29.5k USD do u think the price is okay?

[@fredysandoval7157]

Me re watching before and after 😂

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

lol thanks! Definitely a fun car!

[@christianj2895]

what front lip do you have?

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

brosfourrspeed.com/parts-%26-merchandise/ols/products/frsbrz-front-splitter Here you go! We have a few cool products available

[@Aqravion13.1]

premium for me is 996 per 6 months

[@Aqravion13.1]

2024 premium

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

That’s crazy!

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

That’s very high!

[@Ntoxx.Nation]

how many cars do you have?

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

I have three.

[@artblackwood7936]

IMO the stock engine is not fast enough. Needs to be around 300hp. Just me.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Yeah would be nice to have a turbo

[@christophersanchez2389]

CS Here So I Do Remember These Partnerships With Every Some Cars Like Back Around 11 Years Like The Subaru and Toyota When I Was 10 Years Old Back In 2013 With Subaru BRZ and Scion FR-S Since I Was Like I Said 10 Years Younger Back Then I Remember Scion Axed The Name I Talk About Of Previous Past Comments With A Scion Models Like The Scion tC Also A Scion iA and Lastly Scion iM After 2016 Make and Model Year After Scion Axed The 2015 After With A Scion xB Also A Scion iQ Also After For 2014 MY With A Scion xD Also After 2006 With A Scion xA Also A Skip The Scion xB For 2007 MY Since 2nd Gen Back In 2008 With A Scion xB Since 2004 Scion Came Out A Name With A Scion xA Also A Scion xB Since A Year Later Scion Release The Scion tC For The 2005 MY Also Scion xD Release For 2008 MY Same Thing With A Scion xB I Talk About With A 2nd Gen Also A Single Scion xD 1st Gen Was Back Then As Well So Since Toyota With A Fj Cruiser Back In 2007 Was Been Around Release A Year So Also Toyota Release More Models Like The Toyota MIRAI Back In 2016 In The US So Back Then With More Japanese Toyota Vehicles Was The Sequoia In 2001 MY Release So Mike Was More Cars Several Back Then I Talk About So Mike.

[@oriohebshalom8941]

What exhaust is that

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

brosfourrspeed.com/parts-%26-merchandise/ols/products/awe-cat-back-exhaust/v/AWE-CAT-BCK-XHS1-TRN-DTN-TYT-GR8 Here you go!

[@Croix98101]

What is the mpg

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

I averaged like 28 or so I think.

[@christophersanchez2389]

Also Release Toyota With The 4Runner Back In 1984 So It’s Been Around For The Past 40 Years Ago Back Then Ever Since The Toyota Camry Back In 1983 MY Also Toyota Corolla Back In 1966 MY Also It’s Been Around Nearly 60 Years Mike Also Like The Toyota Prius Release Launch In 2001 MY Also Since With A Toyota Highlander Back Then Same Thing As Well Also Back In Toyotas History I Talk About Around When I Was Very Younger Mike My Comments I Was Talk About Thoughts Since.

[@jkilby27able]

How is the car if you're looking for a mid-life crisis? 👍👍👍👍

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Not a bad way to go! Much more affordable then the typical mid life crisis car.. Corvette lol

[@jeremyjackson8643]

The Trueno Edition is available now.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Did I say it wasn’t?

[@beexiong2995]

US version was just toyota 86 after scion died. GT86 was used overseas.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

We have GT86’s in the US market.

[@beexiong2995]

@@BrosFOURRSpeed they aren't badged as GT86. They are just 86. If you look at the European market for example they have a GT86 specific badge. The US market is just 86.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

@@beexiong2995 it’s still the same car regardless of the badging.

[@beexiong2995]

@@BrosFOURRSpeed of course. Just not the badging. GT86 makes me think about european, Australian market etc. We got the frs, 86 and GR86 badging only

[@HRT520]

You might be able to put some kids in the back

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

I had an adult in the back around town! Not ideal but it worked lol

[@T_3rR4h]

Guy, you have no idea about the RTV issue. Bad bad advice.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

What did you experience with it? My cars been fine, but saying what I found about it.