Toyota is SCRAPPING all their engines for these compact powerhouses...

#Toyota #rav4 #hybrid #engine
Toyota is planning to replace its entire engine lineup with smaller, more efficient four cylinder engines that have huge #electric assist. Could they come in the #nextgen rav4? what about the #harrier and #corolla
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[@notsodelusional]

Toyota needs to develop a refined version for the Lexus lineup.

[@tinhinnh]

its refined its just extra insolation for lexus

[@theredscourge]

The new engines often come out in Lexus, and whichever ones are simple and reliable then go into Toyotas.

[@TheBjjones]

@notsodelusional Will never, ever happen as long as Akio Toyota is in the mix.

[@user-yr4ur9mu2f]

Give me a 1J in the rav4

[@geoffreymak000]

Lexus all EVs

[@joshephand5538]

Just Make a station wagon

[@tomhoots]

Move to Europe.

[@CarShopping101]

The Crown Signia is essentially a station wagon.

[@mynameisradman]

SUVs are so boring to drive.

[@Autotad]

Crossovers are just station wagons with a different name. 🙃

[@carholic-sz3qv]

there are millions of toyota corolla station wagons in europe lol.

[@kcpncfs9234]

if i were to drive a RAV4 i would have to wait until 2029 to avoid engine recalls

[@justahumbledude]

I'm fine with my 24 RAV4 Hybrid.....and you are right. 1.5L? wth pretty sure gerbils will be in these engines to remain green.

[@upperleftnorthwest4278]

@@justahumbledudeyou would need to flintstone your toyota to be the most green

[@mikej238]

Yup, just makes the value of current models go up. I'll keep my Rav 4 Ltd Hybrid for a long timem

[@clipsncasts1]

@@justahumbledude Honda is already running a 1.5 for like 10 years they are decent enough, still slow yeah.

[@mclovin6629]

Flintstone got it 😂😂😂😂😭😭​@@upperleftnorthwest4278

[@ManCaveStudio]

People that prefer reliability don't want turbos. The future for cars is depressing.

[@edzebes]

The 2GR-FE was a good, low worry engine.

[@Xander1Sheridan]

this isn't 1980. How many decades of reliability is it going to take?

[@littlestinker9716]

Toyota's new turbo engines bypass the turbo at light throttle and operate normally-aspirated. Reliability is mainly an issue for drivers with a lead foot.

[@peacefulmind8991]

@@Xander1SheridanI love Toyota, but you seem to be a bot or simply Toyota fanboy. They have ruined their reputation with the new tundra and new Tacoma.

[@carboydorifutoparty3976]

​@@peacefulmind8991 could've happened with the time they had a mass problem with frame issues with their trucks in the past. Could've happened with the gas getting stuck in their cars as well. Engine issues with those 2 aren't gonna kill them.

[@nextleveljourney6612]

Dear Mazda Ⓜ️- please make a Plug In 🔌 Hybrid CX30 Turbo 💨 or even MillerCycle 👍🏼 in a GREEN color

[@ToyotaChrisWI]

GR Camry 400 hp 😍

[@greensleeves8095]

I want a GR sienna with removable 2nd row seats.

[@pigletshut]

And have towing capacity for a GR Corolla

[@anydaynow01]

@@greensleeves8095 I just want a Sienna Prime with 80km of usable EV range, so much room for activities and I can do all my daily commuting with post work shopping stops on battery!

[@geoffreymak000]

@@greensleeves8095it’s a van. You want a race van.

[@irondome7334]

@@geoffreymak000 Hey, the Previa Alltrac SC was an AWD, mid-engined, supercharged minivan. That's supercar recipe my boy.

[@0HOON0]

We don't want this. The A25A has been a great engine.

[@Mylifeislegendary982.]

Don't say we. Full majority I mean everyone who does live outside the internet has no issues with change.

[@InternetDude]

We’ve had 3 A25A vehicles, not a single engine issue. About 90,000 km across them.

[@CACressida]

A25 had issues in the beginning too

[@tinhinnh]

2.5 is fine but they want to keep downsizing

[@danieldeal7946]

Quite ignorant take. Change can be bad.

[@prateekinator4679]

While I am really happy that Mazda, Toyota, and Subaru want to keep ICE vehicles on the road, I really miss having NA V6s in cars like the Highlander and ES 350

[@jonathanratliff4780]

One more year a V6 in the ES Lexus and I think I’m going to spring for it I like the idea of the next gen ES WITH the new technology but damn that V6 is sweet

[@ytj22]

Thank your government! 👍

[@fredEVOIX]

don't know where you are getting this from but Subaru absolutely is not and you really don't know japanese brand to say this I had a mitsu evo IX and a subaru sti here's what japan do they don't work on their engines at all for years (except toyota) and drag them as long as emissions regulations allow it then they simply drop cars forever wether they sold well or not does not matter, mitsubishi is a dead brand subaru has killed the sti and soon to come the wrx and many other models in 2025, suzuki will remove the swift sport, jimny and others in 2025 most diesel and petrol engines are gone in Europe you can only buy HEV PHEV and EV now oh yeah Subaru stops the legacy next year too again you're clearly uninformed if you think they are keeping ICE they already removed them..just not in your market YET but it's coming for sure another thing all ICE engines left are downsized and lose power you can forget the "new year more power" era that died around 2021 now you only get worse for more money, in Europe I noticed that begin of 2023 and took a few hours studying the actually sold 2021-2024 models you're not ready for what is coming in NA they give no warning they don't say it publicly mainstream car coverage won't talk about it as it's against the zero emission mandate but half the available engines and car will disappear after 31 dec 2024 it happened already to us in 2021-2022-2023-2024 the Cupra Formentor in 2023 had 8 engines available up to 390hp in 2024 there's only two a 150hp HEV (for a sporty brand LOL) and an PHEV with 270hp or something don't care PHEV = EV don't even think about buying one

[@rightlanehog3151]

Kirk, I spent 2/3 of the video trying to figure out what the Corolla X was. 🤣 I want the next RAV4 Hybrid to hit 40+ mpg with 240-250 hp to allow for 3,500 lbs towing. I think we will see a 2.5 Hybrid system comparable to the Highlander/Crown/Camry for the foreseeable future. 🤩🤩

[@g35shawn]

The new rav4 going to have the same engine and transmission from 2025 Camry.

[@rncondie]

It already does. 2.5 L eCVT

[@cpftank09]

That 2.0 turbo sounds like a great engine for a future MR2…. Please Toyota, make another MR2!!!

[@kolejnipolscykrakersi]

It will go inside Higlander as well ;) Makes sense there ... said noone ever.

[@chezzyperson3339]

The MR2 will still be a collaboration with another automaker because Toyota said they won’t make sports car alone despite all of us thinking that

[@JoVERICAIN]

It's not a performance orientated engine.

[@anydaynow01]

@@chezzyperson3339 Yeah agreed! I still think a Toyota Yamaha Daihatsu collaboration needs to happen for the MR2. A turbo Yamaha liter bike engine in the back of a stretched out Daihatsu K car with a Toyota body using their new design language (I don't care, the new Prius looks good, there I said it!). Choke it to high heaven with a tiny cat and McDonald's straw exhaust to pass emissions then offer an "off road only" GR option exhaust like Nissan did with the reskinned Z and Nismo exhaust. Folks who prance around town can careless about the exhaust, folks who want to go fast will do the upgrade, just like we did in the '90s an '00s!

[@Demoxx1]

After toyota unveiled the new 2.4 liter turbo I don't see a need for a new 2l turbo. No need for a 1.5 turbo either. Turbo+hybrid technology is extremely complex and when something fails and it will, it will be an arm and a leg to fix.

[@AndreiGrozea]

At the same time, we're talking toyota so they'll probably be fine.

[@Ali-M2]

The 2.4l won't be able to meet euro 7 requirements coming in 2026-7 so they need to replace these tdf engines

[@SkyWKing]

Ironically hybrid is what saved the V35 engine from blowing up in hybrid Tundras/Sequoias because the engine runs less often. In hybrid cars the ICE is the limiting factor for reliability.

[@tinhinnh]

sounds like 2.0T is only for GR vehicles

[@JAM_2024]

​@@AndreiGrozeaif living in the past ya

[@philspaghet]

If Toyota makes them with manual transmissions, I would be very excited!

[@GR-Kevin]

I feel as if I'm the only one who's extremely excited for these new powertrains, as im curious of what they sound like, their horsepower, and most importantly, efficiently and price ranging

[@Mylifeislegendary982.]

FULL majority I mean everyone else have love change and new engines. It's just some people online post crazy comments

[@mitchellshareratleast100su7]

It would nice to see the sienna getting a turbocharged hybrid because it’s going to get even better fuel economy and way more torque

[@Mylifeislegendary982.]

Agree

[@macaron3141592653]

A 300hp hybrid powertrain in the ES with actual F-sport suspension tuning is all I want. Come'on lexus

[@ouch9326]

overweight and excessily quiet

[@joekavalauskas8767]

Fwd and sport suspension is an oxymoron. It’s just gonna under steer worse than an Audi.

[@davidbrieske]

They need a compact pickup to compete with the Ford Maverick and Hyundai Santa Cruz

[@billurban1581]

Thoughts: Turbos allow equal output with smaller displacement, slower average engine speed, less frictional and pumping losses, keep the average RPM closer to optimum BMEP. Basic stuff. Turbochargers have been continuously refined over about the last 60 years. I’d say turbochargers don’t add any excessive stress to any engine unless at 90% to full power, in other words, infrequently. Hybrid and PHEV drivetrains will potentially extend ICE reliability and longevity by up to half again. (Example: ONLY ~30% of my miles in my PHEV are propelled by the ICE, and virtually no miles in stop and go / start stop situations.)

[@N20Joe]

Yes turbo engines CAN be engineered for reliability but you don't want to see the price tag on it. Toyota currently does a pretty good job of reliability at a decent price. I'm not convinced they could do that on turbo engines.

[@Mfam777]

Until you a buy a new tundra

[@ryanb8736]

Well said. That is true. This comment should be pinned.

[@patrickbrady9562]

Understand your points. Couple thoughts in response: Longevity today is often dictated by regulators. How long can you get spare parts - including replacement batteries? How long is it legal to register the vehicle? How much does it cost to dispose of batteries and other toxic parts that are no longer usable? The laws of physics, Toyota and consumers don't get to decide modern product longevity - bureaucrats do.

[@SteveCondurelis]

I think Toyota is underappreciating the demand for PHEVs in North America. The daily driving of the average customer will be far under the 50-70 mile range of the '25-'26 battery potential capabilities.

[@khakiswag]

They understand better than the rest of the industry which is why they said they’re focusing on hybrids not EVs. However the problem for PHEVs for Toyota is battery supply for the volume of vehicles they build.

[@PostprandialTorpor]

70 miles is my daily commute as is many in California

[@Christdeliverme]

They need the turbos to extract the thermal efficiency from the exhaust. You can get more boost than back pressure easily at lower cruising speeds and with DI you can run stoich so there is no FE loss as long as you're not demanding more torque than needed to accelerate reasonably

[@0HOON0]

The '18-24 Camry got better real world fuel economy than the Accord with almost the same performance. The theoretical efficiency advantage of turbos mostly shows up on EPA tests, not with real people driving.

[@SkyWKing]

@@0HOON0 That's because most of the time the engine is off-boost and is not benefitting from the reduced pumping loss caused by the positive intake manifold pressure. In a hybrid the engine operates at a different load point than what's required so it could run at just slightly positive boost to fully take advantage of the efficiency gains.

[@mad-meh2719]

I agree, I have the 2020 rav4 and it lacks power on the street(non hybrid model). I recently got a 24 tacoma and the turbo on that 4 cylinder really makes the truck move easily on the street. On my commute they have similar mpg, I'm getting between 20 and 22 city on the rav while 16 to 20 on the taco.

[@RyanLarivee]

I love hearing any Toyota news.....But the GR Corolla was the last sports car news in late 21. I hope we get something soon. Maybe discontinue the Supra put the Gr 1.6 in the GR86 bring in that new SFR and the MR2. But it sounds like a Celica is coming shortly. I am on the sports car hunt and would like to get some news soon.

[@midwest9040]

Exciting news; however, I'm more looking forward to the cross cooperation between Toyota & Mazda. I would love to see the 1.5L turbo with 250+ horsepower and being a hybrid in the new redesigned CX-5.

[@anydaynow01]

Totally agreed, and a real JDM Supra using a turbo version of Mazda's I-6 with a Yamaha head.

[@Xander1Sheridan]

they all need plug in hybrids. And I don't know why they are limiting power still. They can do 300 hp with great gas mileage now.

[@RoguePlanetStudio]

So buy the current one asap, got it.

[@420_traveler]

Just bought a V6 Lexus for that reason afraid they're going to phase them out for nothing but hybrids and turbo fours

[@Toyota4Life]

That Venza looks badass …

[@bjsimon802]

I dont think the battery plant will be done by end of next year, so i am guessing the Rav4 might be introduced last quarter of 2025 or first quarter of 2026. The Rav4 will have probably 232 hp with camry hybrid system

[@andynickles7505]

I wonder if the next gen Mx-5 will get that NA 1.5 hybrid

[@F85M]

Toyota's mistake started with V6 Turbos. They needed to switch back to an inline 6 TT. Glad that crappy V6 is biting them in their arse. This coming from a yuge yoter fanboy.

[@geirvinje2556]

Will Toyota use eTurbos? This will give you power from the exost, and give the engine power at low revs.

[@ToyotaChrisWI]

I saw something elsewhere where it shows RAV4 has a better market share than F150. Sounds unbelievable to me but that may not make up for actual sales. 🤷‍♂️

[@BigAl22]

Shorter stroke but still with a turbo?? I see a tuner's dream... AKA I'm thrilled 😃😃

[@Xander1Sheridan]

they need to drop the bottom two for the USA. Everything should have at least the 1.5 turbo.

[@alvinsimba734]

Look at Honda with their 1.5 turbo engines and also in Nissan rogue 1.5 turbo as well. It’s hell

[@Mylifeislegendary982.]

​@@alvinsimba734 Nissan or honda can't do something means Toyota should not move With the times and give what the actual market or people want instead should keep doing what a small set of people like you want

[@alvinsimba734]

@@Mylifeislegendary982. lm not one of those but Toyota can look at other brands to see what they are doing and then go from there. Me personally I would get a hybrid before getting a turbo charged engine in my opinion, the way it’s going. Toyotas have been making turbos for a long time.

[@Mylifeislegendary982.]

​@@alvinsimba734 fact is simple Toyota knows what they are doing very well. These days watching video and seeing this comment section is like dealing with mother in law who acts like a hole.

[@samuelgatton]

The Camry/corolla cross over already exists and sells like hot cakes in the USA it’s called the Corolla cross…

[@springertube]

Historically at least as to lineage, the RAV4 had been based on a gussied up Corolla, and the Highlander was essentially a gussied up Camry.. When Toyota moved to the TNGA platform, RAV4 and Highlander both shared the basics

[@matthewhuszarik4173]

RAV4 is actually a gussied up Camry.

[@midnitestate]

This. And the Highlander used to be based on the Camry but its basically a redesigned RX with less luxury stiff and more focused on utility

[@springertube]

@@midnitestate and, in turn, the RX was also based on the ES which was based on the Camry.

[@MrDashocker73]

Bring the Crown Sport to the states and rebadge as the new Rav4.

[@dogie8c]

It won’t sale as well due to having less space and less ground clearance as the current RAV4. Americans love space and height, not small hatchbacks 🚗.

[@Mfam777]

You’de tell us if the Camrys engine/transmission fails right? Unlike tfl

[@robertolouth7468]

Follow your programs from Mexico. Always neat information. Here two Toyotas both 2019. A Rav4 made in Japan and a Camry made in US, both non hybrid, both with the 2.5 A25A engine. Both my most precious toys. At almost 60 years old probably both vehicles will survive me. Thank you for your trusted and kind information. Congratulations

[@AndreiGrozea]

The 2ZR-FXE (1.8 hybrid) had a solid run in the Prius and Corolla, but it sucks to hear they alredy can the M20 hybrid, as far as I know if only came out in 2020. Hope they throw a 1.5 turbo hybrid in the Yaris in Corolla at least, that would be very fun.

[@Shadowed007]

What happens to the G16-GTS Inline-3 Turbo GR engine? Are they going to continue with that, or is there going to be a replacement

[@KirkKreifels]

It's staying. Their specialty GR racing engines will stick around

[@dylantimal]

@@KirkKreifelsawesome news

[@asajayunknown6290]

That Volvo he mentioned at approx 4:30 will be gorgeous trash at 70k miles. Just like BMW, Mercedes, Audi, Rolls, Rover, ......

[@chrisjmiller6]

Volvo makes some of the most beautiful cars. Unfortunately, most of us could never afford to maintain them outside the warranty period

[@asajayunknown6290]

@chrisjmiller6 Agreed. And the people that can afford it don't care. They simply buy a different vehicle. It's why Hoovie has an endless supply of money-pits. Absolutely stunning cars, but mechanically trash😔

[@tinhinnh]

That 2.0T (350hp?) would look good in the next GR Corolla to go against Type R’s 2litre

[@michaelvella8511]

Yes Kirk......Why doesn't Toyota just bring the Crown Sport to North America, everyone's asking for it !!!!!!

[@faheemabbas3965]

Lexus.

[@kolejnipolscykrakersi]

Every 2 people interested have askef for it !! And yeah, there is a Lexus wall

[@mart0225]

@@kolejnipolscykrakersiToyota could sell it as a Lexus. Not my preference, but it’s a way around the Lexus wall.

[@Ali-M2]

Can't fit an elephant in that room 😂

[@07decker]

I am a retired Toyota/Lexus tech. Best engine ever built from Toyota has to be the 4.7 lt in the GX470 The 4AFE in the older Corollas was bulletproof as well. 5.7 in the Tundra is almost indestructible.

[@arm2644]

As long as Toyota does not use wet belts for timing in there new engines, I am okay!

[@nicks1137]

I do not understand why Toyota/Lexus will not use these high horsepower engines in their cars....makes no sense....for example I love the Lexus IS-350 but only 306 hp from their V-6 is way underpowered.

[@donaltemus3565]

@@nicks1137 that’s why you buy a real IS and get a 500 with prob the best engine on the planet.

[@SkyWKing]

Insurance is probably why. High horsepower cars tend to be bought by people who are more likely to get into accidents. Toyota wants to stay as a low cost to insure mainstream brand. When you buy a sports car you are paying the price for other people's reckless behavior even if you were a good driver.

[@ryanb8736]

@@SkyWKingThat’s false. People who buy high hp cars actually are the lowest risk for accidents. They know how to drive and are enthusiasts. It’s the low hp cars that people build up are the ones who get into accidents.

[@ouch9326]

driving fun is sense of acomplishment from escapign danger and driving effciently. drivign effceintly is speeding up more on realtivly downhillish roads and before up hills at optimal fuel level and rpm . braking and steering is minimal and steady. neutral gear transmission for rolling without power.

[@ctibpo991]

I wonder how much it would cost Toyota to change the turbo on the 1.5l engines to an F1 style electric turbo. They can be used to pre spin the boost or to convert boost to battery juice. Porsche just released one, but here it could really help mileage and drivability. It might actually help with its own lifespan as a turbo.

[@ryanb8736]

It cost more than the vehicle Toyota is selling. Porsche can do it because they charge more to have that technology. Porsche is 1000 levels above and other company. My favorite company.

[@felixwright9626]

Sales for June very strong. Toyota knows what it's doing

[@Mylifeislegendary982.]

Agree

[@chezzyperson3339]

Every Toyota is only staying a few days on the lot except Tundras, Tacomas, and Sequoias even BZ4X are flying off the lots with the crazy lease deals

[@Mylifeislegendary982.]

@@chezzyperson3339 new Tacoma is selling very well and tundra sales are actually up despite the recalls.

[@chezzyperson3339]

@@Mylifeislegendary982. Tacoma isn’t selling very well when the Tundra outsells it now and the Tundra is having its all time best sells but they are the most in stock new Toyotas that stay on the lot the longest at least in my area

[@Mylifeislegendary982.]

​​@@chezzyperson3339new Tacoma during Q1 was in it's generational change. simply called change over period were they was retooling issues and shortage of workers. that meant limited supply for dealers. Only time the tundra outsold the Tacoma was during Jan Feb and mar which was the change over period . Otherwise Tacoma is still the number one selling mid size truck in it's segment.Stop reposting something thats misleading.

[@avdp9095]

We have small toyota hybrid engines for decades in Europe, all very good, very reliable.

[@Mylifeislegendary982.]

You are 💯 perfectly correct. This comment section is becoming a joke

[@EverydayJ1786]

You don't have the same fuel economy law and CAFE laws requiring 0w16/0w8 oils ... Europe and other countries still call for Xw30 weight oils which improve long term engine reliability

[@InternetDude]

With turbos though? Turbos decrease reliability.

[@avdp9095]

@@EverydayJ1786 we have our fuel mixed with ethanol......up to 85% in France, 15% in the Netherlands. Toyota, Suzuki, Lexus, Honda remain very reliable with their engines, dedpite wr torture our engines, due to a more agressive handling, very much.... . We have 3 cilinder hybrid engine in the Toyota Yaris, 300k sales in Europe, no major problems sofar. Same for the Corolla hybrids, very very reliable.

[@avdp9095]

@@InternetDude 1.5 liter 3 cilinder engines.

[@jonhansen4745]

I get less & less excited for the future of these ice engines & hate to think about their reliability..

[@Mylifeislegendary982.]

These upcoming new engines will be extremely reliable . Toyota knows what they are doing very well. Get with the times because turbos are the future and present importantly what the full Majority I mean everyone else wants these days.

[@radinahmed]

As someone who lives in a country (Bangladesh) where cars are (exorbitantly) taxed according to engine size, Toyota/Lexus introducing 1.5L through most of their lineup is music to my ears!

[@farooki8021]

Any chance they use solid state batteries?

[@miraphycs7377]

nah for hybrids they probably use lithium-ion battery that they gonna make it bipolar. Bipolar battery was introduced with the aqua in the jdm model

[@ouch9326]

for cvt, power meter needle should display another needle to show the drivetrain response timing vs the pedal position timing , in 2 different needles. that way it doesnt feel weird to quick acclerating drivers like when i trying to to drive for effiency by combusting fuel at optimal level per rpm . dont really need 1st gear for except as lxury car option, unless thats actually more efficient if driven correctly and everyone demands it

[@AbeyantHero]

PHEV hybrid would be great in the Stout, how amazing that would be if going turbo plug in hybrid at that too

[@katalysis]

Give me solid state batteries please

[@healer81]

Toyota's focus is definitely on their small vehicles because of the volume of their sales. Their focus is no longer on larger vehicles that North Americans like.

[@dapetik]

Please give me news on the stout!

[@danielmartz3145]

I think you’re spot on with what vehicles will get which engine. Makes a lot of sense. As far as the TT V6 goes, it will need to be replaced by 2027 due to new emission requirements. I would like to see a turbo 3.0 inline 6, and this could essentially be the 2.0T with two additional cylinders. This would cut down on production as well. A high performance I6 could also be offered for the Supra and Lexus RC+LC replacements.

[@marktackman2886]

I could see them changing the RAV4 because it currently provides too much value compared to everything else in the lineup. It went from a drive-able washing machine to an almost perfect vehicle in 2019. With the market downturn Toyota may want to increase margins on their most sold vehicle.

[@jxmar_]

You better believe that! The current RAV4 is too nice for the segment and will definitely take away features like they did with the Avalon

[@joshuavinson6176]

Thanks!

[@MatthewTheCCMA]

These same people upset with turbos better not say ONE word when a Corolla takes 10 second to go 0-60 😂 The internet never ceases to amaze me. Everyone complains that the Corolla (And other Toyotas) have been horrible slow. Now they try to fix that and y’all complain 😂 Trust me I love my 1.8 NA 4 Banger but you don’t see me commenting “SLow, Laggy” I always see these comment on videos with corollas or Camrys with the NA engines. Everyone needs to pick a lane

[@Mylifeislegendary982.]

Opinion of these people online doesn't matter whatsoever. Everyone is acting like Toyota has never made a turbo vehicle. Tundra has a issue sure but every other turbo engine they make is ultra reliable. People always complain when a new gen or engines comes out then few years later it's a whole different case

[@0HOON0]

The 2024 Corolla runs 0 to 60 in 8.8 to 9 seconds depending on the trim.

[@MatthewTheCCMA]

@@0HOON0 many people would says that’s entirely too slow! I drive a 2017 Corolla so that sucker is doing like 9.7 second 😂😂 seems fast enough for me!

[@billwylde4846]

You get what you paid for.

[@marktackman2886]

Kirk, these turbo options are going to cause dissent beyond the damage control capability of your statement in this video. I think you are trying to posit that Toyota will have the ability to ensure reliability by picking appropriate material choices that will only make sense with the scale of these parts being used across the Toyota lineup. Please feel free to clarify or talk about in another video.

[@KPHVAC]

Emissions regulations are killing reliable engines. All this engine downsizing is bad news for consumers.

[@tah6746]

What about Diesel Electric? If this was so, One could run BioDiesel, Straight Vegetable Oil (SVO), have Higher Torque figures, have increased thermal efficiency. The system could be driven be the electric motors only or driven be the Diesel Engine and Electric motors.

[@agr_]

My wife and I rented a 2024 RAV4 for a few days. I hate it. The automatic transmission is not refined at all, and its power is lacking. Going through turns and over bumps feels like I’m on a boat waving in the ocean, it’s almost nauseating. Months later we purchased a I6-turbo CX90 and it’s night and day compared to the RAV4.

[@ryanb8736]

Mazda is a luxury with an inline 6 turbo. Kudos to Mazda for doing the best engine design. They were smart and copied BMW. They look great too. RAV4 is a basic economy car. For people who don’t care about luxury, driving fun.

[@ryanb8736]

Kirk, you absolutely nailed one thing. Something I said many years ago. Toyota needs to make an inline 6 turbo like the B58. This would make Toyota king of trucks if they did that. You should make a video on just that. Companies need to hear this.

[@ouch9326]

ines grenadier uses b58 . i think they had to replace plastic parts with metal because under heavy work those have been melting

[@thtupid]

Which ones are using byd's dm-i tech? These engine sizes are fully in line wirh byd's current engine sizes too.

[@SkyWKing]

Not having a 2.0L NA is the confusing part for me. There will be a big gap between the 1.5NA hybrid (150-180hp) and the 1.5T hybrid (250+hp). And that gap is where most of their current products are (Corolla cross hybrid, C-HR, UX, Camry hybrid, RAV4 hybrid, NX, ES etc.). A 150-160hp 2.0NA and 220-240hp in hybrid form makes a lot of sense. And I don't think just increasing the battery size on the 1.5NA hybrid solves the problem. They have to account for drivability at low state of charge, for example on a continuous uphill gradient. Once the battery runs out there will only be 130hp left and that's insufficient in a K platform car. PHEVs can get away with this since their batteries can last a lot longer under heavy load.

[@kgamaseg]

Did anyone else see those Mazda rear lights on that lime yellow Harrier?

[@mpersad]

I would be really disappointed if Toyota were to ditch the normally aspirated 2.5 hybrid, I have it in my RAV4, 2020 model, and it’s a great engine. Turbos are okay, I had one in a Landcruiser, but it’s just more complex. Great video Kirk, your analysis and insights for the manufacturers your channel covers, is never less than excellent.

[@syken8695]

I don’t trust turbos that much, especially on a tiny engine. I understand if its 3.5 Liter V6, then maybe, but a small maybe. My brother has a 1.4 Ecotec turbo in a Chevy Cruze. That Engine generates so much heat that it melted the freaking coolant reservoir and it started leaking coolant everywhere. The Turbos will force the engine to generate excess heat at the expense of reducing its lifespan. Sure, you might get more power and torque, but it’s not worth it if we speak about reliability. Naturally Aspirated Engines last longer because they dont have to be forced to produce more power. My cars engine is 120k miles and doesn’t burn oil. No turbo. I keep up with maintenance, do fluid flushes and oil changes, keep the engine breathing clean air. I don’t wait till 15000 miles to change the air filter, I do it every 7500 miles or sooner. I have a 2014 Nissan Sentra which is notorious for transmission problems. I will be taking it in soon for new front struts, because New England roads are “in very good condition”. I will be on my third set of struts by now. Two of them cost around $1100 so thats a little ouch on my part. Though for some cars struts are even more expensive. So that aside, tiny engines with turbos will work much harder and generate excess heat under the hood, not to mention they will blow up faster. I had to learn that the hard way, when I took my brother’s car when all freaking lights lit up on the dash and the car was dying. Took it to the shop, it started misfiring on the mechanic, luckily only spark plugs were damaged. Got those replaced and seems to be working fine now. Turbos are an unnecessary stress for an engine. If you want race cars go get one specifically made to withstand high pressures. Dont put turbos on tiny engines, or it’s going to be a big flop. Toyota messed up with those engines in 2007 Camrys, it would seem they want to repeat similar mistakes with the turbos. Personally I wouldn’t advise that, but I am not a CEO of Toyota, and cant tell them nothing. I am also no mechanic either. So my words for some might not matter at all, and thats fine, I am ok with that.

[@Mylifeislegendary982.]

You are absolutely wrong about everything and Toyota has building turbo vehicles for a long time now. Just because you had a bad experience don't mean anything. TOYOTA know what they are doing very well. Even the new Tacoma has been extremely reliable while other vehicles which used the same engine has no issues whatsoever

[@syken8695]

It’s okay, I agree to be wrong. If you know Toyota better, kudos for you. I had a bad experience with GM, so I automatically assumed that every car is the same way. Also I heard from my mechanic that it is better to have a naturally aspirated engine, than a turbo boosted one. The mechanic told me to stay with Aspirated engines for as long as I can. So I will keep my word, and will do. So I apologize If you know more than I do. So thanks for clarifying.

[@Mylifeislegendary982.]

@@syken8695 no issues

[@joshuavinson6176]

If Toyota can switch production quickly in response to market needs, then once gas prices drop below $2 gallon in USA they can easily switchover to mass producing F series V8's for the coming Lexus F-SUV's. . . Is that right?

[@Kev_D.]

Just get a hybrid. Turbo power without the turbo (if you're scared). Bulletproof. 46 mpg combined.

[@magnoliap5824]

A redesigned phev for the regular highlander would be nice. 😂

[@chibbyylol]

If the regular highlander isn’t cut from the lineup by then

[@davidhunternyc1]

I've got my Hot Pockets and Coke Zero and I'm buckled in !!! Let's go !!! At 1:56, the only reason why the Crown Sport looks so good is because of the guy next to it... just sayin'.

[@andrewm2002]

I drove a Chevy 1.3 turbo in Brazil. It was actually pretty decent for an economy car

[@gabrielefusto]

What about the next GR86 engine?

[@tedneanderthal7373]

I wish the Yaris Cross would come to the USA.

[@rightlanehog3151]

🙌🙌

[@ouch9326]

why? not safe not econmical not fun to drive. the worst

[@alexhan4768]

It does not make a lot sence if TOYOTA is going to keep the 2.5L in the next gen REV as it will look like another facelift for the current gen vehicle. The purpose of these new powertrains are not only keep up with other competitors like Nissan, Honda or BYD but also leapfoward in the hybrid game. REV is not a Camery, it is the top priority model for the company, it is going to be the first model to use the 1.5L turbo I think. The Corolla will be the first model to use the NA 1.5L. Conservatively they probably will give the current gen REV and Corolla another year just be safe. But I think they will publish these new models at the early next year due to the intese competition of electrification.

[@LQban0]

Yes, it may be the future for Toyota, but will the US market be its future?

[@kevanneclarke3363]

I think everything was shifted regard the rav4 and crv and corolla and civic bcuz rav4 used to be corolla based and crv was civic based but now they kinda moved up a size now the crv and accord are really close now

[@User.Joshua]

I'm onboard with the turbos. Not sure why people fear modern ones so much. Having owned a fleet of Ford diesels with the turbos, I never had any problems running them over 300k+ miles; never had a turbo issue. Imagine the torque on a boosted hybrid! I'm all in.

[@0HOON0]

I'm not towing 20k pounds or racing for pinks. I just want to get to work. Turbos raise long term ownership costs and bring few benefits to the average commuter. Also, diesel turbos tend to last longer than petrol because they don't have a traditional throttle.

[@Nemura12]

Turbo diesel is not the same as non diesel Turbo engines 🤌

[@skolarii]

the twin turbo V6 is literally being recalled right now.

[@Mylifeislegendary982.]

@user.joshua• you are perfectly correct.

[@User.Joshua]

@@skolarii not for the turbos specifically… not sure what point you’re trying to make here.

[@TYAC_TPE_SF-Bay]

1.5L 6 cyl.?

[@avdp9095]

Japanese engineering, best of the best.....don't worry. If it is build in the Usa, Toyota Plano.....worry!

[@pigletshut]

Wait till it shows up at TMMC Cambridge Best of all worlds!

[@jordanneff9442]

We want a GR SIENNA with the power sliding doors

[@SWSW560]

1.5 rav ??....well this sucks.

[@JoeJoe-ec9tf]

Too much turbo derangement syndrome, I have 2,7 turbo Chevy which has out performed what a lot of experts predicted, many fleet operators repory over 200,000 miles with no problem, confident that Toyota can build a reliable turbo engine

[@Mylifeislegendary982.]

You are absolutely correct My friend 💯. Some people don't want to accept the Truth online.

[@MrRaitzi]

1.5 turbo does not make sense. . Effective emissions of phev are also very low. They are just adding unreliability with this move. Also already like 5l/100km already.

[@Mylifeislegendary982.]

Toyota has building turbo engines for a long time. Only the tundra engine has issues otherwise everything else is ultra reliable. Get with the times.

[@davewilson7602]

@@Mylifeislegendary982.we can’t know that for sure, they only started swapping out their mass market products with turbo engines in the past 2 years. Most of them haven’t even reached 30k miles

[@AUTOMOBILZ]

@@Mylifeislegendary982.dude your a straight troll, you feel the need to reply to every single comment. You’re not an engineer, you’re not a VP for Toyota ……….your nothing but a KZbin troll, and your comments mean $hit. You probably don’t even own a Toyota goofy

[@Mylifeislegendary982.]

@@davewilson7602 don't give me we can't know nonsense because nothing personal mate. Toyota has building turbo vehicles for forever and way Longer than two years. End of the day old engines go and new ones come. Learn to accept change because people outside this comment section does

[@dougrobinson8602]

@@Mylifeislegendary982. Yes, but a hybrid starts and stops it's engine frequently, at least in city driving. Turbos hate that.

[@AutoEnthusiastJC]

They really need to get their reputation up or else I’m skeptical of any new powertrains from them.

[@tonymarinelli7304]

I will be in the market for a car in about a year and want a Rav, but after this revelation, I don’t think so

[@joecharmley]

Why don’t they make rav4 t truck compact truck? That design won’t sell here

[@1FiftyOverland]

Did dude just call tundras heavy duty trucks?😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@onlyricko]

I think new RAV4 will get new Camry hybrid engine as it base model

[@JayEmTee85]

Did you mean 1000 miles of range instead of 100?

[@FastCar5]

Don't throw out the baby with the dirty bath water comes to mind.

[@Blank00]

Hopefully Honda’s next generation of hybrid engines aren’t turbocharged

[@harrytej]

They aren’t today

[@onifon]

Why or why not?

[@wyw201]

Honda’s hybrid setup doesn’t benefit from a hybrid

[@harrytej]

@@wyw201 ya Toyota saves 500 bucks a year if you put on like 15000 miles a year.. which is insignificant.. im not sure why Honda is inferior to Toyota.. Honda’s drivetrain is more like EV.. only case where Toyota shines is in hilly areas

[@wyw201]

@@harrytej How much you save is dependent on gasoline price, summer/winter and city/highway mix. You can draw up a quick Excel model for fuel savings. Toyota shines in both fuel economy and reliability so far. Since Toyota have been making hybrids for 25+ years, we have lots of data on problems and solutions. Older Honda hybrids had alternator issues. Latest gen Honda hybrid is too new to tell. Aside from Honda and Toyota, another hybrid setup worth looking into would be BYD's DMI series-parallel setup.

[@sbalak]

New Toyo management. Hey, lets take what our brilliant predecessors created with a great core philosophy and trash all that and make crap engines. It will be a great future.

[@fatdoi003]

GR RAV4??

[@thomaslin4242]

Continuously waiting for true EV platform… no comment on 1.5 liter with turbo…

[@jeretso]

Those engines are so beautiful. They need to stop painting stuff in black unless they are trying to hide something. The red highlights are hot hot and easy to see.

[@stevemazzara8178]

Long time Toyota owner, I no longer trust Toyota due to falsifying crash tests and EPA tests, telling customers they could change the oil at 10k miles when these engines have low tension piston rings which have lead to early engine failure. Toyota also says the automatic transmission fluid is good for 60k miles - good luck with that myth too. Nope, Not buying a new Toyota. I’m happy with my 2016 Avalon and 2020 Land Cruiser.

[@Chorizomicks]

2018 2AR-FE and 6speed auto trans for my Rav4 SE. Smooth, Simple and Reliable. And made in Japan