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@Grimm-Gaming2 ай бұрын
Maybe something weird like a 97 Toyota Startlet or a Civic Wagovan
@teerbaby10742 ай бұрын
The Fiesta, obviously. 😊
@solidsnake26652 ай бұрын
Put it in a sports bike, people would say, Hayabusa who?!
@pjccwest2 ай бұрын
That engine in an old Mini would be interesting, maximum FWD fun. And an MR2. Oh yes. I'd like to put it in an Atom or a Caterham style RWD too.
@brianhume47432 ай бұрын
Reliant robin
@slartibartfast26492 ай бұрын
4:15 it is worth noting that the often quoted (and unofficial) "1250-1500bhp" that grows every time it is mentioned was only possible for one hot lap before wrecking the engine. Race output was more in the 900bhp range.
@SamI-jk5vt2 ай бұрын
well at that time every car was pushing over 1200hp in qualifying but 800-900 in the race
@FrontSideBus2 ай бұрын
Only 900 lol.
@nomojo11102 ай бұрын
Hence they were called 'grenade engines'. It's important you've pointed it out, though. This Nissan engine appeared as a 3 cylinder powerhouse at the time F1 began its 6cyl turbo era. 2x DIG-TR in an F1 chassis?
@fuzzy1dk2 ай бұрын
yeh, the current F1 engines basically make more power, more of the time, with half as much fuel
@Drunken_Hamster2 ай бұрын
Well, that's still 600hp/L and 12hp/kg, so...
@TheCynicalJedi2 ай бұрын
It's such a shame that Nissan didn't put a chilled out 150-200bhp version into production, would have made for an amazing platform and being so small you'd be able to swap it into almost anything if you can custom fab some engine mounts Also _Diglett dig, Diglett dig, Trio Trio Trio_
@LunaTempesta2 ай бұрын
There's a Nissan nismo note E-tech which uses a 3 cylinder hybrid. But iirc the power output is nowhere near the 200bhp.
@martinfisker74382 ай бұрын
Triumph speed triple. 130-180hp depending on vintage, 70kg including a gearbox that doesn't explode, and fits into anything. It also sounds amazing with the T-plane crankshaft
@wobblysauce2 ай бұрын
Just like the Yaris 3 cyl, people are getting 888hp from it at the wheels, but that isn't daily driver.
@GeoffKidder-kt6mx2 ай бұрын
They did. Its in every new Rogue. 201hp/225tq, non-hybrid, and its amazing.
@wannabecarguy2 ай бұрын
There's a rumor that Nissan made a prop driven plane. It crashed at an airshow. Unconfirmed. Maybe happened late 80s early 90s.
@spudgunn86952 ай бұрын
"How did that work?" I should imagine without 500 mile service intervals, and regular rebuilds, quite briefly!! Lol
@Nordlicht052 ай бұрын
If your engine holds up too long some part is too strong and you are giving away power. Depends what the engineers have in mind. Rebuild every race? Go for it 😅
@jonathanedwards89132 ай бұрын
They did lemans with it, so about 2k miles
@spudgunn86952 ай бұрын
@@jonathanedwards8913 didn't he say it broke down after 6 laps?
@diaboles2 ай бұрын
@@spudgunn8695 that was a gearbox issue though so they didnt get to test how long it would last
@sepg50842 ай бұрын
@@spudgunn8695 if you actually watched the video, it is the transmission that broke. That does not mean the engine has a 500 service interval. KZbin comment section Armchair engineers are so cringe 🤢
@UltiMogr2 ай бұрын
Why do the Brits measure capacity in liters , weight in kilograms but torque in pound and feet???
@jcc34942 ай бұрын
To confuse as many people as possible. A person's weight is commonly measured in both stone and kg Speed in mph Distance on roads uses miles and yards Smaller stuff uses mm
@UltiMogr2 ай бұрын
We also used stones and feet and grains in 5000 bc. But we moved up since then
@zqzj2 ай бұрын
Because they created the Imperial measurement system.
@FrontSideBus2 ай бұрын
A 500ml bottle of cola but a pint of beer :)
@stum83742 ай бұрын
I could also include WHY the yanks drop letters from words and have wrong names for car parts etc ???
@leoa4c2 ай бұрын
9:00 An engine is not pre-heated to "maximize lubrication". A racing engine is pre-heated so that clearances and other dimensions are within design tolerances. When the engine is cold, due to negative thermal expansion some parts will be out of design specs. Even systems which do not require any lubricants may need to be run only at operating temps for clearance reasons.
@slowanddeliberate68932 ай бұрын
The oil has to be warmed up as well.
@Southghost59972 ай бұрын
Clearances for oil passage, less friction, and warmer, less viscous oil. It's all related.
@flyingdutchmanindustries58772 ай бұрын
Weeelllll ... "Pre-heat" is essentially the same as warm-up, but without the run-time/parts wear time factor. It aids in lubrication by reducing the viscosity of the oil, allowing it to be distributed to parts quicker. ;)
@tonyross56672 ай бұрын
And don't forget the Lower Compression to enable the Engine to not get Knocked to pieces. 😆
@anthonyrowland9072Ай бұрын
So it lubricates better...
@danowens71452 ай бұрын
Suzuki Hayabusa Says " hold my beer" and hand me a turbocharger. It might be heavier but it's because transmission is integrated into it.
@justinkase13602 ай бұрын
Exactly my thoughts, including the transmission bit. Really strange that he didn't think of turbo bike engines.
@Markknightexeter2 ай бұрын
This was still much lighter.
@wannabecarguy2 ай бұрын
That hyabusa engine gets turned into a V8. Someone makes cams so you can rotate one head.
@danowens71452 ай бұрын
@@Markknightexeter it looks like it's weight 40kG is just the engine. Doesn't count all the parts to make it run. Like a water pump, alternator, intake, exhaust manifold.
@Markknightexeter2 ай бұрын
@@danowens7145 From chat Chat GPT, "The engine from a Suzuki Hayabusa, without the running gear and accessories, typically weighs around 60 to 65 kilograms (approximately 132 to 143 pounds). This weight can vary slightly depending on the specific model year and any modifications or removals." It also said this, "The Suzuki Hayabusa's engine produces around 190 to 200 horsepower (about 142 to 149 kW) and approximately 150 to 155 Nm (about 110 to 114 lb-ft) of torque. These figures can vary slightly depending on the specific model year and any modifications or updates made to the engine." If you were to calculate the weight compared to power, the Nissan engine would thrash it, then again if you were to take the turbo off I've no idea what the power would be, I'm guessing 200hp+ from just 2/3 of the weight.
@jens-erik25552 ай бұрын
Koenigsegg`s Tiny Friendly Giant Engine, Twin Turbo Freevalve 3-cylinder is 600 hp and 70 kg / 154.3 lb 🤩
@KhaoticKalm2 ай бұрын
Possibly a million dollars more due to the TFG being a freak of mechanical engineering in all the right ways… and only assuming that Nissan isn’t tiptoeing into the hyper car market with their engine.
@neilmowles95812 ай бұрын
Agreed the koenigsegg gemera 2L 3 cylinder twin turbo freevalve has some great stats, but has been a will arrive next year car since 2020. I like the freevalve concept but will they ever get it to work reliably in a production car let alone will it ever make it into a production car for the masses.
@KhaoticKalm2 ай бұрын
@@neilmowles9581 I’m like FV #1 fan boy, love it, ready to get the tat… but it’s been said that there are simpler more reliable ways to get the “same” (close enough) and I’m gonna… wait on that tattoo 😔
@Zonkobel2 ай бұрын
Except you cant get that engine. The gemera will only be available with the v8.
@kjelleriksson27932 ай бұрын
Königsegg is abandoning that engine because no one wants it.
@BIBIWCICC2 ай бұрын
The lighter and smaller the quicker they go pop! We are seeing that in all engines across all manufacturers.
@jtaylor86062 ай бұрын
I'd not heard that before. Which engines/manufacturers specifically?
@johnsherby91302 ай бұрын
I was gonna say my Toyota engine is heavy and weak but it’s also at 292,000 miles with zero major maintenance
@GeoffKidder-kt6mx2 ай бұрын
@@jtaylor8606 He's mixing up "small engines" with "small turbo engines" which was true of all the American stuff not to long ago... but the street version of this engine ended up in the new Rogue, and its amazing
@fredEVOIX2 ай бұрын
in my opinion, it's more a problem of downiszing to the bare minimum materials thickness and quality which often crosses the threshold of reliability in the wrong direction, old engine block were machined out of a large block with thick walls now they are cast and hollow with some really thin walls on the cylinders and engine block, I can tell you in computer hardware it followed the same direction, they sold you processors that could run half faster just like they sold us engines in cars but after 2000 they realized they could either save money on the part or upsell it as another more powerful but more expensive component, if you know nothing about computers check Intel 13th 14th gen 2024 problems and you'll see the exact same thing car engines experience, they reduced the safety margins so much intel cpus self-destruct (my 13900k just did blue screens nonstop am typing this on a new amd pc >
@ZetoBlackproject2 ай бұрын
@@fredEVOIX This. SO MUCH this. You want an engine that will last half a million km, have the displacement of a motorcycle and the power of an american muscle? Totally doable. Just be ready to pay a kidney and liver for it.
@ethanmonat2 ай бұрын
This video just seemed a bit confused, I never got what point it was presenting or what cool and interesting thing we were being shown. "Here is this high power-per-weight engine. A turbo 3-cyl making 400 HP and weighing in at 40 kg/88 lb. PS: it's a race engine and was never available to the public." I can think of another fairly light-weight three cyl that makes ridiculous power for its weight. The G16E-GTS from the GR Toyota models, which is a 1.6L 3-cyl making 300 HP in street trim, and capable of over 450 HP when custom tuned. Which is available to the regular consumer, and can be bought as a crate engine. "Here's an alternative high power-per-ton engine. It's also for racing use only and not yet available despite being in development for over a year and a half." At this point you might as well point out the JFC Racing Monobloc v8, which comes in two flavors, a twin-turbo 2.8L weighing under 300 lbs with the turbos, intake, and headers and producing 765 hp; and a naturally-aspirated 3.2L weighing in at 200 lbs with an output of 460 hp. Or any of Judd's offerings, or any of the half-dozen or so other motorcycle-derived engine variants made by various boutique engine manufacturers. Each of which will set you back the cost of a very nicely equipped sports car.
@dl68602 ай бұрын
This should be the top comment
@Chambers36TheEnter2 ай бұрын
Fairly light in general terms but compared to the Nissan engine the Toyota triple is 3 times heavier but probably has 20 times the durability.
@matmorrow2 ай бұрын
Agree, great analysis for an overly drawn out video
@kbo752 ай бұрын
600 hp today for 1.6 toyota (carwow channel)
@DontKnowHowToTypeIn22 ай бұрын
theres also honda K20/K24 race engines, with a 2.5l block they get like 350-400HP NA, and they weigh about 100kg. fairly inexpensive too, for a race engine. set you back about 15k. so if you don't have judd money...
@wilgarcia12 ай бұрын
That engine NEEDS to be in a Caterham. =D
@TheBorre2 ай бұрын
I'd put it in a Daihatsu Cuore lol
@MilosBrajkovic-rc3ik2 ай бұрын
Excellent! It was my first tout!
@MyRegardsToTheDodo2 ай бұрын
I'd put it in a Ford Ka. Just to build the perfect sleeper car to really annoy all the BMW owners at a traffic light.
@buddy11552 ай бұрын
That engine would fit in a motorbike.
@heilraichu40372 ай бұрын
No, that engine deserves a Suzuki Cappuccino. Imagine the bhp/kg stats
@rickstevens14792 ай бұрын
Gotta say Nissan has never been afraid to experiment and do something different... hats off to their racing department.. they have built some real excellent cars for the track...
@elk42622 ай бұрын
it's truly incredible how candid Darren is. A really incredible peek behind the curtain in an industry where that level of transparency is, like he alludes to, often met with crazy litigation haha. What a great opportunity to interview him!
@siraff44612 ай бұрын
Well apart from that weight being dry and without any of the ancilliaries such as that massive turbo and intercooler which it had to have to make the power (so in practice it was nowhere near 40kg), its also a one off billet race engine which not only costs a fortune but can also be designed to run on race fuel and not worry about any emissions regs. The reason we don't see things like that in road cars is because if you want 400hp something like a 2.0T 4 cylinder adds a relatively insignificant amount of weight over a 3-pot with the usual cast parts, is in a lower state of tuen so easier to get through emissions and longevity testing and doesn't need to be made of unobtanium to deal with it. When its in a car thats over 1.5t in the first place an extra 50kg for ease of manufacturing, cost, longevity, economy, emissions and all the rest is the obvious trade off. Oh and on normal fuel its not making 400hp unless its also making a lot of heat. More like low-mid 300's at best. This is why the Yaris GR engine is getting close to its limits too - 280hp is great but its also only about 50hp away from being right on the edge on road fuel and with road emissions equipment.
@hendo3372 ай бұрын
Motorcycles are going down to parallel twins now for emissions reasons, cars for four to 3 cylinders. The gap between the piston and the cylinder lets hydrocarbons past and ruins the emissions.
@stevemichael84582 ай бұрын
I wasn't surprised to hear that photo was a fake - 40kg may be super-light for an engine but it's still 40kg :) Having said that, if you'd like to put one in the post for my MX-5 I'd be eternally grateful :D
@MrSeanman302 ай бұрын
What would be wild would be Koenigsegg 80kg Dark Matter Electric motor with 800hp lol
@alexmikhael50612 ай бұрын
maybe 40kg for the block, and another 40kg for ''all the extra bits that connect TO IT to MAKE IT AN ACTUAL ENGINE... ;) ??? eh... kinda my thought about it... ;) but if it was all titininiamium or some superlight alloy , eh, would be awesome to feel one in a 260z or wutever or other some OOOOL*Z*car...
@Andreas_B.2 ай бұрын
Nissan did the same on NA Engines. The SR16VE N1 was used in the limited-production Pulsar VZ-R N1, produced from 1997 to 1998. These cars were tuned by Autech Japan. It made 200 PS (197 hp; 147 kW) at 7800 rpm and 134 lb⋅ft (182 N⋅m) at 7600 rpm. Redline of the N1 Version 2 (1998) is at 8600 rpm. This is also claimed to be the most powerful production 1.6 L naturally aspirated engine.
@0Y02USH2 ай бұрын
"Uh sir what do you have in the bag?" "An Engine" "Sir What?!" *"DID I STUTTER?!"*
@Rose.Of.Hizaki2 ай бұрын
*_"Stu-tu-tu-tu-tu"_* - Turbo (probably)
@markgallagher59082 ай бұрын
@@Rose.Of.Hizaki 😂 😂 😂
@tuftistump2 ай бұрын
😂😂😂👌👌👌@@Rose.Of.Hizaki
@rolfknappmann2 ай бұрын
Koenigsegg finally found a worthy opponent
@garchompy_15612 ай бұрын
recently, a tuning shop got a GR Yaris engine to over 1,000hp. kinda wild
@Cloxxki2 ай бұрын
Sadly, too few customers picked the 3-cyl Koenigsegg Gemera over the added V8 option, so the 3 isn't happening for a while :-(( I think it would have saved over 100 kg which would really impact performance off the line and around bends. If (after all the decades) they really manage to make FreeValve and this light 600 hp engine work, it's perfect for basically anything. Even the GMA T.50 and T.50S might even get faster with it. Imagine it in an Ariel Atom or Nomad. A Formula 2 car. Indycar. Nascar. GT3. Hypercar. If it really works and works reliably and efficiently, there's no end to the applications and it's just a matter of making it affordable in larger production volume.
@andyMutale2 ай бұрын
The 3cyl is probably gonna be the more desireable of the two cars
@andyMutale2 ай бұрын
The 3cyl is probably gonna be the more desireable of the two cars
@Cloxxki2 ай бұрын
@@andyMutale But it's not sold anymore. Maybe later special editions.
@zagonialpar92082 ай бұрын
Quick, put it in a Miata!
@Vancev99x2 ай бұрын
Put it in EVERYTHING miata sized! 😂
@MrLuna1092 ай бұрын
Put it on a motorcycle
@JustSomeExpat2 ай бұрын
See you mispronounced that. "Motorcycle" is the correct pronunciation.
@Cloxxki2 ай бұрын
Put it in the frunk of a Tesla. Or even the frunk of a Cayman. Voila, AWD.
@mikewazowzki87592 ай бұрын
Shelby roadster 2: Electric Boogaloo
@patricsteele2 ай бұрын
This video reminded me of the small output V10 you all planned to put in the Miata. Any new updates on that?
@solidsnake26652 ай бұрын
I want this engine in a motorcycle!
@bujfvjg72222 ай бұрын
BMW HP4 weighs 194KG and has 215HP, that is a complete motorbike.....
@izzyplusplusplus10042 ай бұрын
Or as an aircraft engine, man what a great airplane engine this could be.
@Atom2242 ай бұрын
@@izzyplusplusplus1004 Eh, only if you fly straight and very low. You would also need to service it every 100 flight hours or so, lol.
@izzyplusplusplus10042 ай бұрын
@@Atom224 no sir, with a turbo, the ceiling would be very high, I'm guessing in the 30k ft range. Engine management and a turbski gives ICE engines great performance, and is how the turbo got invented to begin with. And the straight thing? What are you even talking about? Control surface sizes on the wings and tailsection determine maneuverability, along with weight, so once again, no you're wrong, it would be great for an aerobatics aircraft as well.
@Shaft02 ай бұрын
Its not that special when you actually look at motorcycle engines ?
@joshuacook52802 ай бұрын
Okay...wait...so 40Kg in an overhead compartment? I think folks dont apreciate how heavy 40Kg really is.
@rogermccaslin59632 ай бұрын
I think the overhead compartment reference was more for the physical envelope rather than the weight. To your point, I have no idea how strong those compartments are, but I certainly wouldn't want that weight over my head, dynamically loading the bin in a turbulent patch of air. 😳
@tmatsci2 ай бұрын
40 kg is the same weight as a bag of cement (except in Japan where bags of cement are 50 kg)
@grizzlygrizzle2 ай бұрын
@@tmatsci -- Actually, it's 88 lbs, and cement comes in 94 lb. bags. It's about halfway between a bundle of old-style roof shingles (81 lbs.) and a bag of cement. When I first started in construction, we had to carry those bundles up a ladder, about 40 bundles for the smallest roofs we did, and up to 150 of them on the larger houses. As for the overhead compartment, if you put 4 25-lb. carry-ons into one of those compartments, you're already heavier than the engine.
@tmatsci2 ай бұрын
@@grizzlygrizzle cement bag weights depend on where you are in the world. In Australia where I am it is now 40kg per bag of cement and has been since 1973 when we changed from the old imperial measures to metric. Before metric the cement base was nominally I cubic foot of cement and weighed 94 pounds. Now that it is metric it is 40 kg or 88.1 lbs in the old measurement. One cubic foot of cement was chosen so that you could easily batch concrete by volume for example a typical foundation mix was 1 bag of cement, to 4 bags of clean sand and 7 bags of gravel aggregate. From what you posted it would appear that you live in the USA which is still using the old system.
@grizzlygrizzle2 ай бұрын
@@tmatsci -- Right you are, Ken.
@juffurey2 ай бұрын
This is so cool I don't know how I didn't learn about this engine when reading about the delta wing. Another awesome little engine is the 3 cyl 1.0L ecoboost in the Formula Ford, I just remember that Chris Harris was blown away by it.
@lorddoobsworth1442 ай бұрын
That Katech engine is badass. Its basically just a super highly strung Chevy LT which has been chopped in half.
@hola_chelo2 ай бұрын
my peugeot 205 with a cracked engine block would cry of joy with this little thing
@squishygothdude2 ай бұрын
Sounds like it could be a great aircraft engine!
@apsb212 ай бұрын
It is a dry sump, not an issue with preheating. you can install a heating blanket to bottle.
@Mountain-Man-30002 ай бұрын
That Katech is just half a 5.3L LS or LT V8 motor. That's why the 2.7L displacement.
@jareknowak87122 ай бұрын
True. Surprised that they dont know.
@guy_autordie2 ай бұрын
@@jareknowak8712they said it
@jareknowak87122 ай бұрын
@@guy_autordie Does not count. They said it after i wrote it. 🤪
@philipbain2 ай бұрын
A 2.7 litre 4 cylinder NA racing engine isn't as unusual as you may believe, in the British Hillclimb Championship throughout the 80s the engine of choice was a Hart 2.8 litre 4 cylinder that made similar power.
@that44rdv4rk2 ай бұрын
I'd be interested in putting that katech in an MGB GT
@grdprojekt2 ай бұрын
3:14 uhh Fernie, you missed the fact that most airlines only allowed maximum of 7 kg for carry on luggage. Not 40.
@Uncle_9-112 ай бұрын
This could have revolutionized Nissan's lineup
@TinoMiller2 ай бұрын
@@goodale1812 can’t just make them for without knowing who will buy and if the made too much they might not sell or too little and the buyers look elsewhere.. Also don’t forget dealers mark up prices etc
@GF-mf7ml2 ай бұрын
and it connect to CVT.
@ouch93262 ай бұрын
variable compression nissan
@izzyplusplusplus10042 ай бұрын
@@ouch9326 as in, holes burned through somewhere?
@ouch93262 ай бұрын
@@izzyplusplusplus1004 some of them were reliable , some were not due to mass production quality control
@mikehipperson2 ай бұрын
Noted American engine builder Steve Morris is currently working on a 1200 cc 3 cylinder Rotax unit that is expected to produce 900bhp! Not sure what the all-up weight will be but the customer wants to put it in an off road buggy which are pretty light!
@michaelgoldberg40002 ай бұрын
The Ariel 500 Atom engine is 90kg and makes 500 HP naturally aspirated Liter bike engines make 200 HP weighing 60kg I've always been obsessed with those tiny monsters, it's my dream to put one in a Cappuccino
@JohnnyHammersticks-bm5wz2 ай бұрын
Great video. Keep making these deep dives.
@Gabrong2 ай бұрын
the video starts at 3:30
@GATECH3D22 күн бұрын
Love that Jags on scrapyard at 8:16
@scarx41812 ай бұрын
I mean the power:weight is better than what's in my car but I'll take my LS3 on 6 pounds of boost to daily all day any day. I've driven my Corvette cross country without concern, I don't think this engine would get me out of California let alone to NY and back.
@lorddoobsworth1442 ай бұрын
No to mention the powerband on your engine will be MUCH nicer to actually use on the street. People obsess over hp per liter sometimes dont take powerband and drivability into account. Nice car mate 💪
@scarx41812 ай бұрын
@@lorddoobsworth144 Thanks! 😃
@Sandmonmsn2 ай бұрын
I would love to see that engine in a Alpine A110R, to see if it would be possible to get the A110R to under a 1000kg. And VW never did make the sporting version of their XL1 did they. Just some thoughts, ceracoating the entire outside of the engine, for rust protection and from heat coming from the engine bay (turbo, exhaust, brake temps) would also allow for the oil to get warm and stay warm and just allow the cooling pack to do its job. Ceracoating the tops of pistons to stop heat transfer into the crank case and over heating the oil, would also mean that possibly a leaner burn, and having very little unburnt fuel left in exhaust gas. Of course ceracoating the exhaust from the head to the tail pipe as well as as much of the turbo that can be done. I did read about a diesel where they ceracoating the inside of the intake and combustion chamber to increase thermal efficiency. Don't know what that would do to this engine or application. But just some engine ideas I've been having, to try to increase thermal efficiency, increase mpg and decrease emissions.
@OriginalTrev2 ай бұрын
Engine designers/engineers are always committed to efficiency and reliability with cost of materials and ease of manufacturing being the deciding factor of design parameters... whereas tire smoke is the goal of "tuners"
@Sandmonmsn2 ай бұрын
@@OriginalTrev yeah, I'd like to believe that in theory. However I counter with the PSA 1.2 Puretech wetbelts. They would just destroy engines, the belts would break apart in the oil, get and bits of belt would clog oil channels everywhere and seize engines from oil starvation. I'm sure an accountant forced that through as an engineer would go for a cam chain.
@dzzope2 ай бұрын
1:35 No, they would have (rightly) thought photoshop.. The engine is 40KG.. Totally liftable (and an amazing engineering feat) and maybe effortlessly so for someone like Eddie Hall but just in case you didn notice, that engineer isn't Eddie 😅
@Ralph22 ай бұрын
Yeah I don't think I could even lift 40KG like that, never mind pose in a relaxed manner. But PR is PR!
@DanFrederiksen2 ай бұрын
Rotax has a 1630cc 4 cylinder running on normal car fuel with 300HP weighing 91kg. I think it's for jet skis normally. Fairly sophisticated engine by the looks of it. I have been looking into various super alloys for jet engine use and I think I can say that what's being done in normal piston engines is a tiny fraction of what can be done with much better metals. Normal black steel has a tensile strength around 300MPa whereas a quality alloy can be 2000MPa and if you get exotic it can be 6000MPa so the wall thicknesses you are used to is just dumb cast iron 1930s thinking. done well it's just a thin shell around the pistons with negligible weight. same with the pistons, thin top hat, thin arms, well supported crank shaft. If it was any kind of sophisticated it would look alien. the term 'engine block' is a failure in itself. It could also have rocker pistons so there is no friction on the cylinder walls at all.
@kingjames15862 ай бұрын
Infomercial ends at 2:58
@dakotamarion865121 күн бұрын
Thank you for your service.
@whos-your-mate2 ай бұрын
Hey Mike, great video. WHERE IS THE V10 MX5!?
@peterredman2352 ай бұрын
Perhaps manufacturers should develop engines that do 200 mpg rather than 200mph in a world where you cannot legally exceed 70-75mph!!
@chrishart85482 ай бұрын
Electric cars basically get 200mpg. Ice vehicles actually get less mpg if the engine is to small and has to work harder. Always need the right size engine for the condition.
@DrVaticinator2 ай бұрын
You’re no fun 😊
@CiBi19682 ай бұрын
My Alpine A110s is 300hp and manages 40mpg ... just because it can do 165mph (ish) doesn't mean I have to .....unless on the Autobahn where parts are not restricted where 75mph can be exceeded 😊
@14880evilmonkey2 ай бұрын
It's only illegal if you get caught
@mpk9272 ай бұрын
Where’s the fun in that
@joeyjojojr.shabadoo9152 ай бұрын
You may also want to look into the Toyota 503E 2.1L 4cyl Turbo, a purpose built racing version of the common 3S-GT 2.0L, with an increased bore (89mm vs 86mm) to accommodate larger valves to achieve better breathing from the cylinder head. It was originally from TRD USA and used in IMSA, but eventually made it's way into the JGTC/SuperGT Winning Mk IV Supras (Toms, Sard etc) in mid-90's Japan where it put Skyline GT-R and NSX alike to complete shame, considering what it was. It was not uncommon for it to produce well over 1,000 HP at the wheels for qualifying runs, then run around 600-800 for actual racing. It was eventually restricted back to 2.0L and the original 86mm bore after becoming too dominant and also handicapped with inlet/boost restriction. Just thought this engine might have also been interesting to you, since this was back in 1995.
@leoa4c2 ай бұрын
No, the F1 BMW turbo did not produce 1500hp. Just because people keep saying it doesn't make it true, even if it is said by ex-F1 drivers with a fading memory. Some people agree that it made somewhere between 1300 and 1400hp in qualifying trim, with qualifying fuel. At one point, not even the BMW dyno could measure numbers as high as 1500.
@bujfvjg72222 ай бұрын
Say things by their proper name, Christ almighty. BMW M12/13- Was that so hard?
@Hydrazine10002 ай бұрын
But, as far as I understood that bit of automotive history, they didn't have the dyno tech and capacity to test at those insane power levels. The power levels were estimated based on comparison of lap times in qualifying trim vs. race trim. In the end the problem wasn't so much the power but the cooling. The 1400-1500 horsepower at, give or take, a third mechanical efficiency, meant that there was roughly 2 Megawatt of thermal load to be moved from engine block to outside air. That was impossible to realise in the F1 car package of the time. Those engines, when in qualifying trim, simply overheated after one or two laps driven in anger.
@leoa4c2 ай бұрын
@@Hydrazine1000 Bigger heat exchangers could've been used in qualifying, plus fans for cooling purposes were still allowed, if I'm not mistaken. There was simply no need for the engines to last more than a few laps, therefore thermal stress and fatigue were taken to extremes. Sometimes teams got it right, other times the engines would smoke-signal their disagreement.
@mmmbetter552 ай бұрын
I've always wanted to swap a 10,000rpm 4cyl like an F20 into an RX-8. You could keep the factory center-mount tach 💪🏼
@eco9092 ай бұрын
Talking about engines: Any news about the tiny V10 for the MX-5?
@wildimpo2 ай бұрын
I'm not surprised, look at the Toyota 3 cylinder I've seen it with 500hp 10's in a 1/4 mile
@joshualamp24382 ай бұрын
Imagine this thing in a Nissan Figaro.
@0Y02USH2 ай бұрын
And then proceed to the nearest runway or airport for take-off......
@ouch93262 ай бұрын
gma t50, vw xl1, fake engine sound , prius compact handling car like connaught 2 liter v10 engine placement
@SamVainsАй бұрын
I remember seeing this engine at tokyo auto saloon at the nismo display. The engineering was artwork.
@Hostilenemy2 ай бұрын
Any V10 updates, Mike? Like, any of em?
@LegalEliminator2 ай бұрын
i love the idea of small engines making big power. i loved it when the barra 6 showed up the big gm v8s, i loved it when the gr yaris/corolla showed up the STIs and Evos of the world with their 3 cylinders. if Nissan were to bring a similar engine to the production world, it could make a cool combo for a nismo variant of the current Z car if it were to be combined with a performance hybrid system. the lightweight powerful engine with an electric motor to assist would make for an interesting combo imo.
@AndTecks2 ай бұрын
That photo of him holding the engine is fake. I assume this engine is too.
@grantwiseman18392 ай бұрын
Dude this has been on mind since it was released. Thanks for the update to speed!!
@anbu9992 ай бұрын
Toyota put 2.7l petrol 4cyl engine into Fortuner and Hilux. What's so weird about it ?
@williamporter74952 ай бұрын
Its about the limit capacity wise for a inline 4 cyl petrol motor due to harmonics.
@TC-V82 ай бұрын
And Porsche had a 3.0 4cyl!
@williamporter74952 ай бұрын
@@TC-V8 yeah, flat 4 different again
@TC-V82 ай бұрын
@@williamporter7495 no, the 944 S2 3.0 is an inline 4 - M44 I believe largest capacity 4 cylinder passenger car.
@williamporter74952 ай бұрын
@@TC-V8 forgot all about him, 928 or 944 or whatever it was. True
@advangs2 ай бұрын
4Piston racing has several k24 options making between 340 to 400 horse NA. Streetable. ~120kg
@JoesephBidon2 ай бұрын
You forgot the Mazda Rotary engine. 240bhp from 1.3 L, naturally aspirated.
@SazanD12 ай бұрын
Not an apples to apples comparison as the rotary guzzles fuel at the rate of a big block V8
@aranykai2 ай бұрын
1.3L rotary is not equal to 1.3L in a piston engine. To make that 240bhp, you're moving fuel and air equivalent to a piston engine twice that size. 240bhp out of a 2.6L NA V6( a 2 rotor has 6 'chambers') is much less impressive.
@lukas.0_0Ай бұрын
put two of em in a Mx-5 DIGLET DIGLET DIGG
@garyhull56172 ай бұрын
Let me guess.........The usable HP is attained between 18,000 and 18,200 rpm.
@jctheU.G.SafariBigGamecat2 ай бұрын
I love Old Nissan and the "let's do something crazy" approach, the GTR LM was seriously flawed but they went and designed what others wouldn't have dared. Much love, could we see a Nissan Hyoercar at Le Man's someday? ❤
@Kowalamaster2 ай бұрын
I think it is disingenuous comparing the V10 and V8 screamers, as they are Naturally aspirated where as the BMW is a closer representation being that it and Nissans are both Turbo Charged / Forced Induction. People have taken honda B and K series to near the 1500 hp range like the BMW, and they were also Turbo Charged.
@deanjdk2 ай бұрын
Why disingenuous? It's a discussion about Hp per kg of engine weight. Completely legit comparison for the points being made
@lorddoobsworth1442 ай бұрын
@@deanjdk Yeah hp per kg is much better than hp per liter, as an engine with much more displacement can be lighter (depending on engine design and material). Either one only takes how much power the engine makes at a specific rpm into account though, when an engine operates over a range of rpms.
@raydreamer75662 ай бұрын
I like the 4 cylinder for aircraft usage. 400 HP for take off then dial back for cruse. It could also be mildly turbocharged to maintain HP at altitude...
@AlchemistRL2 ай бұрын
Not when you’ve got a Nissan GTR 😂
@AlchemistRL2 ай бұрын
I don’t have a Nissan GTR… 🥲
@ArielRicafort-g9v2 ай бұрын
@@AlchemistRL only if your transmission could take it😊
@AlchemistRL2 ай бұрын
I don’t have a transmission 🤣
2 ай бұрын
Or a 500hp 300ZX Twin Turbo like I do. Manual like man ofcourse.
@AlchemistRL2 ай бұрын
Yeah I’d be happy with anything 😂
@snjert84062 ай бұрын
I’d love to put one of those into a Skoda Fabia, but with all wheel drive. Not the hatchback, but the spacious one. Keeping all the space but adding the fun of an engine like that
@joshgessinger45092 ай бұрын
I have a twin cylinder Suzuki 1100cc arctic cat snowmobile that has 300hp with a simple ECU flash. Some people make more power than that with a few more mod. I can hold engine it in two hands no problem. The 1000 cc Yamaha - arctic cat same thing make 300 hp no problem with ecu flash.
@andersjonsson640818 күн бұрын
The Koenigsegg Gemera is equipped with an unusual three-cylinder combustion engine called the "Tiny Friendly Giant" (TFG). It has an engine volume of 2.0 liters and produces an impressive 600 horsepower. What makes this engine special is that it is turbocharged and uses Koenigsegg's Freevalve technology, which eliminates the need for a traditional camshaft.
@trentsherry39162 ай бұрын
I've been racing autocross for most of my life , and my faverite chassis is the spriget family . I can only imagine how this engine would make enemies ....
@wobblysauce2 ай бұрын
Like the Yaris 3 cyl, people are getting 888hp from it at the wheels, but that isn't a daily driver. But for the weight 400hp, 40kg as packaging is nice to work around.
@michael2nicolaisen2 ай бұрын
In 2003-2005 the best F1 V10's was around 940-950hp and weight around 84-86kg. So F1 V10 was around 11hp per kg and not "only" around 8hp/kg
@bdhale3418 күн бұрын
I think you may be a bit mistaken about the issues being caused by 24 hour use, the gearbox lasted 6 laps it didn't make it a half hour, what this car's gearbox issues boiled down to is 20xx Nissan transmissions, was probably a cvt and all of Nissan's CVTs back then were reliable until the first oil change if you got lucky.
@badabing62752 ай бұрын
Billet block, billet crank, forged pistons and hi performance rods and cam, plus vales and springs etc.. and reasonbly high boost, easy 400hp
@filipb1002 ай бұрын
It’s sure was a cool small lightweight engine . Tho I always had trouble with the hand baggage marketing spin. It being 40kg while the max weight of hand baggage usually being 5-12kg
@ToadsRCs2 ай бұрын
Would be awesome to have one of these engines in my Proton Jumbuck! Great vid as usual guys :D
@achnagal-angeloeleftheriou13362 ай бұрын
I Love this channel, thank you guys for the amazing videos! I would order any Halloumi recipe from Hello Fresh they are all amazing!
@themanimal012 ай бұрын
Great video 👍. Since we are on the course of small engines and you have a great ability for research and storytelling. How about something on the Mopar A4. Great Channel.
@dainironfoot1022 ай бұрын
A car guy who has old jags. I'm subscribing.
@adam34627 күн бұрын
Kawasaki H2 engine puts out about 192 and *can* put up to 250hp and is a 1.5L inline 4 cylinder turbo that weighs around 62kg fully dressed up.. and that could probably be reduced quite a bit given you don't need an internal transmission or clutch so you could make it a direct-drive. I have seen some attempts at using motorcycle engines in cars and they typically lack torque but the H2 torque figures are decent at 123 ft/lb... so not extreme numbers but very light-weight.
@Finite-Tuning2 ай бұрын
Very cool, thanks for the info. I had no idea that little thing existed, until you told me. Cheers 🍻
@rich74472 ай бұрын
With peak torque at 280 lb ft, the absolute minimum RPM that it would need (if peak HP and peak torque are at the same RPM - which almost never happens) is 7,500 rpm to make 400 hp. According to several articles on this, the engine redlines at 7,500 rpm.
@theelmagoo2 ай бұрын
I always wondered what became of this project as it had a lot of promise!! One other modern day engine that also comes close to it is the Koenigsegg TFG 2.0L engine in the Gemera. 70kg @ 600hp gives it 8.57 hp/kg.
@LSturboguy2 ай бұрын
couple of questions, 1. how much hp does it make without the turbo charger ? 2. what is its headroom for expanding hp ? 3. how much torque does it make? 4. what's its reliability ? really banging on about hp when its the turbo carrying the load isn't really 400hp, is it flat out at 400hp and isn't viable in racing, 3 cyl wouldnt be making very much torque and it is more important than hp, how long can it keep up in a long race squeezing 400hp from small engine usually become a hand grenade, is that why it never went into production
@petercandance23302 ай бұрын
I'd put it in a Honda Jazz/Fit chassis, the second US generation 2009-12. It has the most rigid chassis, great handling, and amazing cabin volume for a subcompact lightweight car. The engine would be perfect coz the Jazz/Fit has a small engine bay space. If I wanted a sports car instead of a daily driver, Mazda Miata ist two generations, also for it's handling.
@tyrefiretv29082 ай бұрын
That tech went into the updated pulsars, they even toyed about with making a new pulsar nismo but they pulled the plug on that too, the 1.2 dig t came with 160 bhp I belive and the 1.6 came with 180
@avada02 ай бұрын
6:06 What two companies? Only one company was mentioned...
@woodywoodlstein95192 ай бұрын
Could that last one or the Nissan engine be used in aviation ? Sounds absolutely perfect for that application.
@Smart-Skippy2 ай бұрын
Exceptional video ! Kudos!
@JenWahl-s1v2 ай бұрын
That Katech engine would mage my MGB GT scream!
@Scoots19942 ай бұрын
I remember Yamaha making an F1 engine that was absurdly light at some point, I think in the 90s. I don't think it was powerful enough or reliable enough to succeed, but it would be fun to find out what the real story was.
@0ctatr0n2 ай бұрын
Holds up 10kg electric motor that's the size a cooked chook "This carbon fibre composite electric DC motor puts out 1000 BHP"
@mtoe-mythoughtsoneverythin25482 ай бұрын
Can you tell people they actually did make a production, called the DIG-S 91kg 98hp. People keep saying they didn't because you said they didn't. Was annoying when you said it. But I have seen it repeated twice now. Cheers!!! Nissan Notes and March had the engine. Mines awesome by the way
@reivanen2 ай бұрын
it's a really beautiful engine, no doubt. What it's durability performance in retail would be is an eternal question.
@GamerofGamesGG2 ай бұрын
Great content! Didn't know about this engine at all
@tp841022 ай бұрын
One could state that Nissan wasn't wrong, looking at the latest 3-cyl. engines from Renault, Ford and Stellantis being used in their Rally 5/4/3 models, with outputs between 170 and 220hp, basically road-going engines tuned for racing but still very reliable, with services quite far apart.
@nickalderman59432 ай бұрын
I have a feeling the DI GTR design elements went on to the VR30 development. They kinda came out of nowhere with the skyline/q refresh, and I don't believe they had any other direct injection turbo stuff happening.
@danielwitham17912 ай бұрын
My car has 3x that power on 12psi gate pressure. Though one of these for my Datsun 1200 ute would be amazing!!!
@DerekBolli2 ай бұрын
Great video, Mike. Well done 👍👍👍
@Cloxxki2 ай бұрын
Canning GT-R LM was really sad. Even with the hybrid system as pure ballast (it didn't do a thing) at LeMans, the top speed was up there with the leaders. How fast it would have been with the most basic of tuning to make it actually work...
2 ай бұрын
I like it when Mike gets the chance to nerd out a bit :)
@derekmiller49442 ай бұрын
I immediately thought.."classic Mini"!!! Can you imagine the 40kg or Katech in one of those???? 😂😂
@Ralph22 ай бұрын
My son is currently building a classic mini with a Fiat 500 Abarth engine. Lots of work, but he owned a 3.5L V8 FWD mini in the past so .........