Toyota Long Travel IFS & dual cases on Rubicon Trail Marlin Crawler Roundup 2017

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[@jagwur]

idk how i’ve never seen this video. i’m obsessed with your build, it’s almost exactly what i’m trying to do with mine now. sick af

[@jagwur]

i’m commenting again just to say how much i love this build

[@levisalvini4110]

That long travel IFS is just a pleasure to watch... What a machine!

[@greatwhiteshark448]

Sick truck . love that place . i got ifs too n it did very well there . stayed with friends straight axle with no problem

[@andrewkim4123]

Awsome truck. I have 87 4runner & I couldn't decide to stay IFS or SAS. Thanks to your video now I've decided. I'm in middle of 3rz swap & After I finish with the 3rz swap I'm going for Blazeland LT.

[@ANtn1969]

0:15 dual cases and still stall it 3 times??

[@senorconhuevos]

So much clutch work it's insane

[@russman109]

I have a Blazeland IFS 93 4Runner, and it’s crazy capable. I’ve gotten through stuff in my truck that a Jeep on 35’s couldn’t. The extra ground clearance under the front pumpkin is a massive advantage. Also, being wider makes it phenomenally better in off camber situations, and the traction you get out of the front tires remaining vertical with the truck is huge too (solid axles articulate and angulate as they cycle). Plus, here’s something nobody talks about….torsion bar long travel flexes WAAAAY better than coilover long arm kits. The Blazeland system is Bitchen. I just hope Nate keeps it going.

[@jagwur]

does it really flex better? if so, why? i’m debating between trying to pick up a new/used blazeland or total chaos kit, was under the impression a coilover setup rides much smoother

[@el_sanchez57]

Hi bro, I have a Toyota Pickup and I want to put the same kit in my truck, you know where I can get that? And another thing what tyre size are you running in your 4runner, you think that you can fit a 35'?

[@landerwyoming9720]

Great truck and thanks for sharing.

[@delagto_5340]

Should add blazeland to the title looks super capable for still using torsions !

[@markschwegler1100]

I remember my ifs, stock gears and small tires! It was fun but more work! Nice rig in the vid what's it like now?

[@jackgarcia2100]

sick rig 🤘

[@chapelbarnes6427]

First time driving stick??? 😂

[@tylerbullis4231]

Fuck rite 😂 and he has dual cases

[@gammaboxer9765]

What a great video, beautiful rig. Looks like a pile of fun, I love seeing someone who doesn't just go straight SAS and does a bit of work and knows how to drive. (that is by no means a slight against SAS drivers or their abilities, but so many people generally are negative towards IFS) I hope more people see your video and see just how capable IFS can be. How is the Marlin crawler? One days i'd love to instal one in my rig. Thanks for sharing the video, really enjoyed it. Cheers

[@TimberTramp]

Good looking rig!

[@Mk4_Kolby]

How much wider did the blazeland kit make your truck?

[@oldowl4290]

Hi, I have this exact same truck, 94' ex-cab V6 4x4. Can you please list all your mods for me. I just bought 33 x 12.5 /R15 tires that I plan on using with the OEM 15" x 8" aluminum wheels which I believe are 4.5" backspace. What long travel kit are you using, what tire size, any wheel spacers? Also what lifts? Body (how much) suspension (type and how much)? Also what rear end (stock diff? axle?, etc) and what rear leafs, shackle length, etc. Sorry for all the questions but since this is the exact same truck I have it would help me a ton. I'm about to tear into mine next month and am trying to collect as much advice as possible. Thanks in advance!

[@theninja001]

That rock at 1:08 on the left gave my truck its first scratch

[@hagamarianas6188]

LOVE those trucks

[@normhienn1881]

I love the torsion bar squeak..

[@graysondick337]

Are you running total chaos’s fabs long travel kit?

[@ismaelreynaga4943]

Specs on this truck ? What lift is on it looks great

[@evanjames81]

Do you recall what brand you purchased for your front and real bumpers and rock sliders? Thank you in advance.

[@ericarguelles3668]

Nice rig. What front bumper are you using ? Also what cage is on the bed?

[@Grantthegreatgamer]

Eric Arguelles thanks! Front bumper is Trail Gear, rear bumper is All Pro. The bed rack is Bay Area Metal Fab.

[@edsnider9851]

Did the bolts for the All Pro bumper line up with the stock bumper bolt locations? I have a 94 Toyota and like the fit of the AllPro, but it's obvious the bracket is for a 95+ Tacoma which requires a small amount of sheet metal to be cut on the older trucks. I just wanted to know if there are special instructions I would need to provide AllPro so it will fit my 94.

[@Grantthegreatgamer]

It was a direct bolt on, no modifications needed

[@eltorito1011]

That's a really nice bumper! Where can I get one?

[@MonkeyBrainSushi]

Where did ya get the bed rack? Very nice!

[@brandonschreiner3273]

So did you eliminate the torsion bars with the long travel kit?

[@jeffgood6441]

I'm running the ifs with a new diff with new oem CV shafts and 4.88 gears and a spartan locker in the rear hasn't let me down let

[@maximiliankern7503]

Hey man what bed rack are you running ?

[@henrypeterson2040]

Sweet looking rig. Super fun to watch, probably even more fun to drive! I had a few questions regarding drive-train/street-ability with this rig. Whats happening with your diffs? Are they stock gearing or are they geared lower? Also are they locked? Ans with those beefy tires is that truck street-able? Or do you bring it to trails with a toy hauler or something? Again, awesome rig, fantastic video.

[@Grantthegreatgamer]

Thank you Henry!! The truck is a blast to drive. Thank you for liking and commenting on my video. The street manners of this truck are very good, all things considered. Both diffs are geared pretty low, 5.29 gear, so 65MPH is really where I keep it on the freeway and considering the 35" tires it still has decent power, thanks to the low gears. Rear diff is an air locker, front diff is a Yukon Spartan locker w/ locking hubs at the wheels. I do drive to and from the trail, no flatbed trailer. For being IFS, the truck does extremely well on the Rubicon, surprising many guys who see some of the stuff it goes through with no trouble at all. The long travel IFS I must say really can't compare to stock as it's a world of difference better than a stock IFS setup. Thank you again for your comment and watching my video!

[@henrypeterson2040]

Thanks for the reply! Thats a very cool setup. I have been thinking about a similar build on my '88 4runner, and your advise that it still has decent street manners is comforting.

[@Grantthegreatgamer]

This would be a sweet setup for your 4Runner!

[@kang4runner272]

Does it make the front much wider than the rear? How did you lift the rear? I'm in the process of taking the body off my 874runner so it would be slightly easier to install all of these components..Excellent vid. The truck handled the trail with such ease.

[@nikolalukic3037]

7:19 Finally second gear.

[@unballisticr.i.pdadloveand7055]

Nice rig What lockers you using and are you getting much damage to front diff and shafts cheers

[@Grantthegreatgamer]

ROBO K rear air locker and front Yukon Spartan Locker. The Budbuilt skid plate protects the underside too so no diff damage.

[@tylerbullis4231]

@@Grantthegreatgamer hey what's the front suspension setup

[@yotagang3705]

why the stall? Thought the marlin ratio was supoosed to leave in 1, 4lo and you can get off truck and not have to gas it

[@johndibble5603]

are you using a ifs bracket lift with the blazeland Kit and are your tires 35's?

[@Grantthegreatgamer]

John Dibble yes 4" superlift drop bracket lift. Blazeland LT kit. 35" tires

[@jacobh707]

Man I love that truck. My first vehicle was a 86 Toyota 4x4. Do want.

[@MonkeyBrainSushi]

Did you have to modify you bed to fit that rack?

[@cpt_sweettooth]

What rear bumper is that and how wide are those 35s along with the rims? Sorry for the questions I’m going 3.4 swap and long travel. I currently have 33x12.50 on 15x10

[@Grantthegreatgamer]

All pro rear bumper. 12.50 wide 35in tires, 15" wheels

[@antoniovalladares6055]

Nice car 💪👍😎

[@adarshfaridkhan3361]

Masha Allah beautiful pickup

[@raymondgoodwin951]

That is an amazing truck! Great driving too. What kind of axles are you running in the front?

[@Grantthegreatgamer]

They front IFS axles are made by CVJ Reman out of Colorado. 4340 Chromoly

[@NickMcd8893]

Beautiful truck man.

[@user-vh5yf7ps9l]

forgot to mention u need to brace them drops to frame to keep from folding them back. I used heavy angle iron and welded just above camber bolts leaving room for alignment them to the frame. bash all day worry free

[@user-vh5yf7ps9l]

I also braced in between cross members under front diff. I used bolts so it can remove for diff work

[@allisboadway777]

Is this a blazeland? What rear setup? Looks super plush! Bet its a blast at high speed too!

[@Grantthegreatgamer]

Thank you! Yes, Blazeland front LT kit with Sway Away torsion bars. Rear is All Pro springs. Rides awesome!

[@stevenminix]

Jon Foster awesome, I am wanting to do that same kit, blazeland is soo hard to get ahold of lately. I really like your setup and would love to know as much as I can about it..

[@allisboadway777]

stevenminix is it hard to find? If u ever find a source message me back on here.. haha

[@jeffdunst]

Jon Foster , im looking to change out my old IFS, and recently decided away from a SAS. However I'm still in the decision making process. I'm curious about your decision to, I assume, stay with torsion bars? As opposed to converting to a coilover. Is this ultimately your preferred setup? I had taken for granted that when swapping to an LT one would go the coilover route.

[@leadslingernick]

I can find where to buy that ifs kit, where could I order one?

[@scrappyjackalope9558]

So this is a drop lift and long travel?

[@eddiebatoa2023]

Nice Toy dude! Mine's a '94 IFS 3.5" / 33's / 5:29 (lot of torque) Also deciding between LTS or Solid Axle. Great fun video!

[@joeyroo7265]

33s with 5.29s is a awesome set up. Iv run 33s and 36s both but I love the extra pull it has with 33s

[@sandcobra]

i have a 86 turbo Toyota truck, i cant decided if i want to beef up IFS on there now or Solid axle swap.

[@Grantthegreatgamer]

sandcobra if you stay at a 35" tire or smaller, then IFS works great.

[@PumpUptheJam81]

Unicorn. Not many turbos alive anymore. Lucky guy!

[@myronhensel]

sandcobra check out the Marlin Crawler 3rd gen Tacoma ifs on 40s

[@Eric-hg1ih]

If you're crawling, do an sas. If you're running on sand often, beef up the ifs. But I've seen ifs with mighty fine flex also, so it's really up to you.

[@backcountryadventure1813]

Keep the ifs strong unique and smother cooler and in case you wanna run some fast trails you can

[@PhilipGragg]

This is great. Awesome yota! Love my 3rd gen! Is that an All-Pro half rack?

[@Grantthegreatgamer]

Philip Gragg thanks! It's a Bay Area metal fab bed rack

[@PhilipGragg]

Jon Foster right on. Any plans before MCR 17? (2018)

[@kohlgossler7083]

how's this isf holding up after about 3 years? is that the total khaos long travel kit?

[@AFlyingSwive]

Blazeland lt, 1400 is the current price on them They seem like a good budget LT kit

[@tannerrich4742]

How do you clear 35” tires on only a 4” lift? I’ve only seen 33’s

[@mattis537]

you can clear 35" on a 2 inch bodylift dude, minor cutting in the front bumper if you still run stock and a little in the fender.

[@Eric-hg1ih]

At about 6:45, the driver realized he's late to a dinner date with his wifey. Really started to speed through the trail! Took it well though

[@coleomo]

IFS gives more clearance when done properly?, is it ust more money to do it , ?is that why most offroad guys love SAS ? seems like they are stronger, but if you can mod the IFS to be strong isnt it a better setup? why are so many dudes SAS lovers? seriously wondering not sure

[@Eric-hg1ih]

Sas flexes much more reasonably. You can see as he's going over rocks, there is a lot of stress on one side of the suspension. Because IFS has more moving parts, there's a larger probability of breaking something.

[@coleomo]

yes I figured that was the reason, and for most situations that probably the truth, Just seems like all the pre runners and guys doing baja racing or any type of offroad terrain racing use long traveled IFS? Never seen a trophy truck Sas before? why would that be

[@Eric-hg1ih]

cole moore look up King of the Hammers racing. Some trucks run IFS and others run SAS. Solid axle has been winning out just a tad more than IFS because they handle better on the rocks. But for speed and desert runs, I'd go long travel IFS forsure for better shock absorption, but solid axle works just fine as well (might be a little bumpier at higher speeds).

[@coleomo]

cool, Thanks for explaining that, makes more sense, SAS is tough and for everyday wheeling much better choice! I must ask now, compared to IFS what sort of suspension coils? shocks? leafs do trucks usually run up front over the axle? is it typical coils and struts like a IFS?

[@Eric-hg1ih]

cole moore what do you mean by suspension "cools?" And you can run leafs up front but there's a joke that goes around that says something like, "leaf springs are for poor people" 😅 so if you can afford to not get made fun of, you can run cool springs shocks and struts, like Kings for example.

[@DH-tm8wh]

Any got the info on this build?

[@alfonsoperezlara5983]

Bonita troca

[@dangerousfandango5943]

Does the LT work better with a ifs lift or stock?

[@Grantthegreatgamer]

It works the same, just based on what tire size you want. 33"tires is max size without any lift

[@dangerousfandango5943]

@@Grantthegreatgamer you ever thought of doing a 3 link in the rear? Was thinking of it. But couldnt f8nd any real thread of it being good for daily. I already have ome rear replacment leafs on my 86, gaved me about 2inch lift.. LT front is next.

[@midship909]

beautiful truck

[@shoyeuyang9198]

What size tires are you running? And what kind of dual case are you running? Gears?

[@Grantthegreatgamer]

35" tires. 5.29 ring & pinion ratio. Marlin crawler dual case adapter with 2.28 front case gears & 4.7 low range rear case gears. All dual transfer case gears & parts from Marlin crawler

[@shoyeuyang9198]

@@Grantthegreatgamer thanks for the info

[@shoyeuyang9198]

@@Grantthegreatgamer sorry to bother you, but how many inch is your lift kit?

[@damnitdang]

@@shoyeuyang9198 blazeland, probably like 3.5"-4.5", depending on how the traction bar is turned.

[@leadslingernick]

@@damnitdang I'm look for the lift and need help finding the blazeland you referred to.

[@garrettsmith8286]

Who's rear bumper are you using?

[@Grantthegreatgamer]

Garrett Smith All-Pro

[@filmdiesel3568]

@@Grantthegreatgamer fuck I just ordered a trailgear rear bumper but this one is clean, great rig btw

[@alfonsoperezlara5983]

Dónde la consigo

[@ishtiaqalisawabiautomatice791]

Wooooo good Dariwar and good pick up And seem to seem my pick up red and 4x4 1993 modal

[@theninja001]

Did you use the 4.7,or dual ratio more often? Or the 2.28?

[@Grantthegreatgamer]

theninja001 I try to only use the 4.7 case then engage the 2.28 crawl box only for really technical obstacles

[@jakestockett3839]

What year of truck?

[@Grantthegreatgamer]

1994

[@hurleykid83]

Are there dual cases in that?

[@Grantthegreatgamer]

hurleykid83 yes, dual cases. 2.28 front, 4.7 rear

[@hurleykid83]

Jon Foster that's pretty cool..never seen a ifs rig with duals.. sweet truck bro..

[@Grantthegreatgamer]

Thank you! It's a fun truck!

[@user-vh5yf7ps9l]

also though I'm not a rock bouncer. I prefer ifs and coil rear. lifted ifs with braces. I don't really understand why almost every lifted rig is a sas or and 1 ton axles. these guys never run trail or don't run trail that requires sas 1ton swap. smooth is best if possible

[@cooperbee408]

I jist keep it stock if u can read a trail you can get anywhere lol.

[@Chevy383ls]

Cooper Bee the rubicon isn’t a trail you can run stock just because you can navigate a trail.

[@DH-tm8wh]

3.4 swapped?

[@Grantthegreatgamer]

Brand new Raptor 3.0 V6

[@heyitschinoable]

What year truck? Also whats the tire wheel and suspension set up you are running?

[@josephastier7421]

That truck can climb slab routes.

[@filmdiesel3568]

Why is everyone so worried about him stalling He’s out having a good time, shit happens Post a video of your rigs

[@dundeeecroc]

It won't stall if it's fuel injected.

[@damnitdang]

LT can make rubicon..Rubicon... but I don't think it'll make Fordyce... overall I think I'll enjoy a LT much more for an overall daily and weekend offroad rig

[@user-vh5yf7ps9l]

whats was total cost for ifs long travel

[@Grantthegreatgamer]

wayne mcdonald about $5K for everything, can be done cheaper, but cheap breaks

[@user-vh5yf7ps9l]

Thank u for info. I run a 93 4runner with 6inch suspension 3inch body lift and 35s. Looking to add long travel kit too

[@user-vh5yf7ps9l]

Beautiful rig great setup by the way

[@juanvazquez4692]

Jon Foster. Wut tires are does?

[@jonchrzanowski725]

wayne mcdonald stacking lifts on lifts is never a good idea. I would recommend really thinking about what you want to do with the rig. I can pretty much assure you LT on a DB lift is not going to work. I would look into ditching the DB either way

[@RubenAguirreF]

What’s your mpg like?

[@Grantthegreatgamer]

Jew Jewpants around 12mpg, maybe 14 if I really try

[@jackhook4192]

That's pretty sad fuel mileage. We have a jeep wrangler Rubicon jk 4door with a lift Dana 60 axels floating axels front and rear lockers 538 gears 40 tires and a 6.4 hemi engine and 8 speed automatic transmission and we get 13 miles per gallon on hwy running 75and 80 miles per hour.

[@MoY206]

She's gawjus.

[@connordanhof5022]

Makes me miss my 92 p/u

[@michaelmathis1961]

Does anybody else watching this want to get a bulldozer and smoothe out those big rocks? lol

[@Trasher_Garage]

Damn nice truck.. sucky driver.

[@tbone707]

Now if he could only figure out how to throttle. That was a lot of stalling

[@Nothingtoya]

Why?

[@angryoldwhiteguy]

Lost interest after he stalled it for the fourth time.

[@MTnumber11]

FreshAire Cruisin learn how to wheel then make a video, or get made fun of lol

[@jimbob2422]

Looks like a pice of junk lol

[@hunterdeets4105]

Jeep owners mad much?

[@ericcrie9776]

What torsion bars are you running?

[@Grantthegreatgamer]

Sway away

[@nikolalukic3037]

7:19 Finally second gear.