Toyota's Tesla Model Y rival the bZ3X electric SUV costs $13,800 USD

[@electricviking]

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[@RWBHere]

If this car ever makes it to the U.K., expect it to have a starting price of £45,000.

[@seibertmccormick184]

The question is: Will they be able to sell enough volume to actually make a profit at this price? That remains to be seen. But this is a price war. Can they drive some of their competitors out of business? If they can, it might be worth the loss.

[@petemiller519]

Hey Sam, remember, it's always better to get a sunburn than frostbite :) Cheers from Canada.

[@vanrozay8871]

Good to see cars with smaller (lighter, cheaper) battery packs, for those who seldom drive far; "commuter" EVs.

[@borshardsd]

Lmao... this isn't the first. Have you not seen any of the Chinese offerings?

[@lucky889s9]

That's just terrible EV, just admit it. Long charging time, ugly range, cheap plastic interior, bare bone features

[@imakevideos5377]

I'm really hopeful for small battery solid/semi solid state EVs, imagine a 400km range ev which gets 10kwh/100km or less

[@joseabreu5802]

Com um range tao pequeno e para esquecer precisa se minimo 800 klms

[@aaaces01]

@@imakevideos5377So many 2 car families exist. It makes sense for one to be and cheaper city-centric .

[@rasoul786]

"Pretty good because it's not made by Toyota"😂😂

[@yuugenr7549]

😂

[@kaba_me]

But it is made by Toyota. Toyota had a similar joint venture with Peugeot/Citroen in Europe, producing the Toyota Augo.

[@rasoul786]

@@kaba_me just quoting Sam the man.😊

[@yezih2694]

@@kaba_methis bz4 is a rebadged BYD, using BYD platform

[@t_w_7821]

never thought I would hear it in my life time....lol

[@stumckhall]

Damn cannot believe I’m saying this as I’ve been hating on Toyota but I’d actually buy this…

[@marco2982]

Why the hate for Toyota?

[@joshuasim8019]

@@marco2982 Their prices are out of control with their dealers in the US. MSRP $24,000 for a base Corolla, are selling $31,000 before dealer fees and taxes

[@jamesvandamme7786]

@@marco2982 Because they been dicks about EVs, refusing to make them, then putting out the crummy BZ4X at a ridiculous price, telling people their hybrids are "Electrified", and putting their money in hydrogen and ICE. But don't get your hopes up, the Chinese price is way below the rest of the world price.

[@Dimas-vx5ri]

You can only buy it in China at that price.

[@rioriggs3568]

Folks who underestimate Toyota have no clue! While many believe Enron Musk is this genius playing 3D chess, Toyota is decades ahead.

[@zorqis]

If this was available in the EU, I'd take it. Among the best looking EVs so far, the size is good, the name is good, and I imagine Toyota would like to honor their name with decent reliability and service.

[@Rene-uz3eb]

It's not really that surprising that ev's can be made that cheap. It's more like, what took you so long. I mean it's basically an electric scooter with a nice cabin, suspension, and a fridge, right? No catalytic exhaust system, no big cooling system, no transmission, no engine crate, no engine, no fuel system, no oil circulation system, no ignition system, no extensive sensor system to keep the engine operating

[@wowokingxoxo]

mobile phone on wheels.

[@elmouto3883]

If it's simple and easy to make, every country would already have an EV industry by now. The big hurdle is making batteries.

[@stephenbrickwood1602]

Excellent comment.

[@khanhchan5234]

Realy? have you thought of how to control all the component? chips and software. Have Japan and Europe had the OS? No, look at USA and China, they have Android and IOS, Harmonyous ios, Google Baidu, etc…. what ever Japan and Europe produce they need software to control the car, people think the car just press the pedal then go, (you think people will buy a milkflow?) Braking system , airbag etc….

[@ISuperTed]

Only in China, will be $30,000 outside.

[@DuarteMolha]

Not a chance this is selling anywhere near that price here in the UK. My bet? it will come in at £45K

[@ISRAELPettigrew]

I love how you broke down the XAI951x project in your video! Can’t wait to see it skyrocket!

[@metricstormtrooper]

You don't need a wide centre consul, what you need is leg and knee room in the front, the BYD seal suffers from to wide a consul and that rules it out for me.

[@Suburp212]

We need more of those cars worldwide. Smaller battery packs, far cheaper prices.

[@FredFox-m9v]

smaller batteries have greater cycles per mile covered and degrade faster.

[@martintsang1662]

​@@FredFox-m9v but if they made it so you can swap it out... Then we are fine.

[@FredFox-m9v]

@Suburp212 martintsang1662. My EV has a small battery ( 30kwhr ) It can be swapped out but the financial cost to replace it is not economically viable. My car is nearly 9 years old with little more than 40k miles on the clock but has 42% degradation, with 5 out of 12 battery bars lost.

[@FredFox-m9v]

Replacing degraded batteries on old cars is not economically viable.

[@joseabreu5802]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@AidaParsons]

Can't believe I almost missed out on Cardano and XAI951x! Thanks for the heads-up in your video!

[@MrUncleWarren]

Might not be good for toyota, but it's great for consumers! Keep bringing the high quality, low price, full EV options!

[@obsidianjane4413]

I see you missed the part where this is Chinese market only.

[@ParasiteZappers]

It's exactly what happened to TVs and VCRs back in the day. RCA Zenith, Quasar, they all started rebranding Funai right before they all went under. Then followed every corner TV and VCR repair shop. They are so inexpensive now they have become basically disposable and recyclable. 🎉❤

[@rassabossa4554]

If they sell these in MX at anywhere near $13k, I may buy one.

[@Mrbfgray]

Chinese market is ultra competitive, nothing like US or anywhere else. No need no way they'll sell that cheap anywhere else.

[@yuugenr7549]

In the US will be 26k lol

[@yezih2694]

It is manufactured by a Chinese company using BYD platform, so it has to pay 100% tariffs to sell in the US

[@urimtefiki226]

I am waiting to buy a new car, I am in the sixth decade of my life.

[@donwhyte9855]

I am waiting for an AFFORDABLE bev in Canada. I emphasize that because I am in my 7th decade and as a senior citizen I don't have the bucks to buy one of these super expensive battery electrics. If this is released at anywhere near this price I will definitely jump at it.

[@dr.x4050]

This is a bit off-topic. However, in a previous video, the Japanese government bought fleets of electric vehicles from China because they were unavailable in Japan. The fleets will be used for critical work and for grid energy storage, making ICE cars worthless by comparison. Using EVs as general-purpose energy storage should be a big eye-opener.

[@byddf]

bZ3X is assemble in China for Chinese EV market by GAC (GAC-Toyota joint venture). It seems to be China domestic market spec only.

[@zes3813]

wrr

[@josepeixoto3384]

cars' battery for grid wh storage,you say? but when.. at night people are home but there is no sun?

[@tsubadaikhan6332]

@@josepeixoto3384 I live in Perth, Western Australia. We're already making too much power every day thru Solar on house roofs. Yes, it requires changing the whole grid so people can charge cars while at work. But we have to change something to avoid climate change. One Party here wants to put Nuclear Power in Australia, but an independent report was just released that says Nuclear is still double the price of Solar, including the price of battery storage. If we speed up that battery storge rollout using people's cars, that's an option.

[@dr.x4050]

@@josepeixoto3384 The cars provide electric energy while parked at home - with no sun.

[@aidank2]

Hope they bring these cars and prices to the UK but won’t hold my breath at least they will appeal to the vast majority of potential buyers due to the pricing which the rest of European Car manufacturers as you have mentioned very well in previous videos👍

[@digitaldirect-q5w]

Sure if you want to see VW and the rest of the manufacturers in Europe go out of business in 2 years instead of 5 😮

[@kaite8371]

At least you have to add taxes in your country. The Chinese don't pay any on electric cars.

[@obsidianjane4413]

They won't, the per unit taxes and regulatory compliance costs more than that listed price.

[@theTESLAwizard]

Greetings from Canada. Love your Electric Viking. Love to see a review of the Tesla Z. Wish we could have some of your sunburn as we are presently freezing our buns off

[@XiomaraRowland-e3q]

Your insights on XAI951x were exactly what I needed! Ready to make my move and buy!

[@larrymeyer2917]

As said by a number in comments, it may not be the best but I’m glad to see Toyota has now committed to BEV recognizing they have to more on market share. No EV to market was perfect but when you drive around and see them on the road, you more likely to test drive. It’s called matching customer needs, battery capacity to match majority buyer needs. Unlike many Legacy that have more high priced modes than affordable commuter.

[@MD-dl5hn]

I think Subaru also helped to design this with Toyota and GAC, so makes sense the interior is nice. Love the interior of my Subaru.

[@phetbounchanthavongchantha8761]

Woww I get shocked The best price The deal deal The best times The best model 😮😮😮😮😮

[@duncanwallace7760]

If some of those accidentally got sent to Australia they'd sell out in seconds.

[@bakkerem1967]

Now that's what I call innovation !

[@functionalvanconversion4284]

This would sure help me with all of this inflation in the US. Let this in please🙏.

[@JO_Artificial]

Its going to be a price war and the European have to play along if they want to stay in the game.

[@FrunkensteinVonZipperneck]

Have no evidence that Europeans “want to stay in the game..”

[@yuugenr7549]

Yeah or else they'll get deleted from the game lol

[@obsidianjane4413]

Europeans aren't even playing the same game.

[@clavo3352]

We limp along in our 12 Y;O Toyota Avalon. Half the conveniences like high beams and solar rear window shade shade and cruise control, quit working years ago. Way too expensive to get them repaired. The engine seems pretty good though.

[@robertkribs9513]

LOL ditto in my 8 yo avalon!

[@maisorychacha5619]

Its going to be an all-out price war, good for the consumer. Like most comments here, we need more of these small, mild range and cheaper options. You everyday home-work commuting option. Makes practical sense.

[@liamtingle2762]

Remove everything not needed. All the drive assists. Just give us a motor, battery, suspension, body with cheap materials. But build it with quality. Shouldn’t be hard with the robotic factories now days. The money is in the charging.

[@jjhmlstx]

Cheap materials but build with quality 🥴 I also like my soup scalding hot but it better not burn me when I eat it

[@SHO1989]

​@@jjhmlstxNot necessarily. A 1981 Toyota Tercel was a very basic and very cheap car but extremely good quality. I had one that I sold with 365k miles on it. Never had any major service, pretty much oil changes, tires, etc. Yeah, the interior was very basic but the entire car held up well and never let me down. I'd call that cheap but high quality. BTW, when I sold it at 365k miles, it was working fine, I just wanted something different. For all I know, it's still running today

[@gr8dvd]

@@jjhmlstx Consider Aptera’s carbon fiber construction… cheaper material (used in many ‘super cars, formula 1, etc.) and high quality as assemble with fewer components, quick snap/bond together parts.

[@niazpavel1206]

Car companies want to maximize profit and revenue. Governments want tax money. CA has increased EV registration fees because they do not earn gas tax money. Cars are seen as a luxury item. So cheap EVs wont happen so soon. In China its already there. There are EVs priced below 5K.

[@jamesgallagher2434]

It won’t happen because we are moving towards autonomous driving and they need to be future proof

[@ufcivil]

This is worth bringing to the US even with 100% tariff

[@KA9DSL]

Mary Barra, Jim Farley, eat your heart out. This car ever arrives here in the states, I'm going to run to get one!

[@1maico1]

No you won't, Trump is planning a 200% tariff on Chinese EVs.

[@ledzeppelin1212]

I'd be with you if it weren't for Biden's 100% tariff or Trump's 200% tariffs.

[@KA9DSL]

@@1maico1 Well said, I heard he would do that.

[@joelhague5515]

​@@KA9DSL watch for Mexico, though, depending upon where you are in the States. Also, Trump won't last forever.

[@joelhague5515]

@@KA9DSL I will add I test drove a Mach-E last summer and it was amazing. 2022, like 20K miles, MINT condition. Only $31K. The car was killer, a total rocket ship. Alas, my daughter skis, so we need to do 350mi roundtrips sometimes and my wife didn't want to deal with charging, even if was just supercharging like 15 mins, lol. So, I scored a 2021 Rav Prime in very good condition for $29.5K. I got 1328 miles out of a single tank of gas once. Most of the time about 1050-1100 miles. Our other car is a 2020 Leaf, still has 12 bars "battery health," about ~98% battery capacity. We use it every trip sub 150 miles round trip. Ultimate commuter car, we get 5.1 miles per kWh in the summer. Cost $16980 in August 2023 minus "Clean Vehicle Credit" ($4000), so $13980. So far average $52/month in energy cost driving just over 1000 miles/month. Also, I test drove the Bz model too, but brand new was just too much $.

[@sjsomething4936]

Sam you’re right, Toyota dashboards and interiors are a mess, at least in our 2017 Highlander it is. This does look really good, I’d buy one at double the price but I do have concerns about all of the sensors and the repair costs for when things go wrong.

[@MrTonifumi]

At DOUBLE the price it would be a killer in Australia!!!

[@giancarlopellizzari1751]

The same in Brazil.

[@ciybersal3499]

If this is a killer, then it will kill Toyota, itself coz it's built by GAC, with GAC architecture using Beijing based Momento ADAS software and using BYD blade battery with (probably) using Chinese Hesai Lidars (largest global Lidar maker). This car is funded by Toyota ICE sales n this will melt their own ICE And therefore their funding.

[@Martian_Alien]

Agree that Toyota is trying to get market share. Also, if you sell enough cars your breakeven point on costs can be reached. While the interior is different and all one color, that doesn't necessarily indicate that it Not made with cheap materials Also, Toyota has no option in China but to co-produce any cars sold in China with a Chinese firm, so the opted to rely solely on the Chinese product. Lastly, Toyota has a good reputation for quality in other countries in the world, so it could be a good for helping sales of their global produces and maybe in the Chinese market which is one of the biggest in the world. Hope that this video increases the number of viewers you get. You touched on the right points to get viewers' attention.

[@briand2614]

It reminds me of the price trajectory of Flat Screen TVs. The Western and some of the Asian Automakers are screwed, and it is only a matter of time. What should the price be of an affordable electric car? 15K USD, 20K, 30K, ... 80K? We need to start thinking about electric autos as appliances, because that is where it is headed, as it should. I'm a big Toyota Fanboy, but I confess they have been caught flat footed too. It's moving much much quicker than I expected.

[@MichaelByrt-b6c]

Tony Sebas prediction is coming true, ya

[@dougdanzeisen9608]

Sure wish they'd bring this to the USA ! Even at twice the price it's a steal

[@EVVolksmanID.4]

The Toyota Bz4x is a very popular taxi cab in New York City. Don't know how or why they would make a car for this price in China. Maybe to just increase market share and maintain the Toyota name in China while they try to upsell another model? Who knows.

[@chrisnewman7281]

If you sell a car below the cost of production that’s the quickest way to go out of business

[@Lost_Johnny]

It looks really good. Quite a bargain in China but I would rather buy an Xpeng -- or an Aion :)

[@damianotoole8770]

loved the dogs breakfast comment, so true

[@shaneofcanada7042]

It feels like a gamble to me, as in, Toyota believes that it can make that car at that price longer than its rivals can compete and maybe somehow that will buy them breathing room.

[@protagonist9716]

Ya I think that's true

[@shaneofcanada7042]

@@protagonist9716 I dont think Toyota can pull it off if thats what you mean, I think they will crash and burn unless they partner with other companies and start dumping every dime they have into EV's.

[@penrithomas115]

If this is available in right-hand drive and with v to g, that would be perfect and would be the first car I buy new

[@mpmpm]

Maybe they sell them for cost price, but I don't think they lose money on it.

[@Baldnesz]

So can Waymos be made this cheaply ? We are told the kit on them costs a fortune v Tesla set up.

[@chinesecrested9528]

I will be looking for this in Thailand

[@byddf]

Most likely to be China-only model.

[@ahpong]

Here in Thailand, people think the BZ3, despite available in China only,​ looks so much like GAC's Aion Y.

[@victic2277]

Sales will be good for that vehicle in the US.

[@darpompie4354]

Not with the 100% Tariffs they have on it. US auto can't compete globally so their solution is to not let other country cars in and move backwards by promoting and selling ICE cars as if the rest of the world won't keep getting further and further ahead.

[@royh6526]

It will be 3x price in USA.

[@borshardsd]

@victic You're high as a kite my friend

[@pbrigham]

US don't want EVs, they are fine with a future with combustion engines.

[@victic2277]

@borshardsd then it won't sell, just like their current EV. Hahaha.

[@adoreslaurel]

Why do we need center consoles, is it only to provide cup holders?

[@CSAFMedia]

In the race to maintain marketshare aggressive EV discounting is now helping price conscious consumers. Which all global markets could enjoy this benefit.

[@GeekonaBike]

If they put them in the US market, even w/ 200% tariffs it's still the best deal on an EV

[@anterodanseco872]

Its Very likely a collaboration with Subaru (aka Fuji Industries) based on prior history of Toyota & Subaru coming up with the "86" and the BRZ, respectively.

[@roopadonthula1674]

The post discusses Toyota's bZ3X as a competitive electric SUV option. The Toyota bZ4X also delivers eco-friendly performance, advanced technology, and excellent value, offering a reliable and efficient solution for electric vehicle enthusiasts seeking a sustainable and high-quality driving experience.

[@andriykhrystonko7367]

Will the Toyota BZ3X have a galvanized body? Thanks

[@Fidsco]

Baz Luhrmann did warn you in that song.

[@mpmpm]

@3:40: 1700 kg is _not_ 'very very light'. Maybe for an electric SUV it is relatively light. But on itself, it can't be called 'very very light'. I once had a Citroën AX, which was 674 kg, if I'm not mistaken. And it would get to 170 km/h, which is enough for where I live.

[@TurnerRentz]

I taught both my elves how to surf , their first wave was Puerto Rico. Keep the faith. Still a big fan of the channel even though I'm out of Tesla as a shareholder for now. Toyota has been nuts not just on this decision - but for like, the past two years? I thought getting rid of their CEO would've helped but no. If Toyota is making money on a 14k EV like this I will eat my hat.

[@ayushshakya4057]

I was thinking why you looking red brother... haha.. you answered that too.. haha... cool

[@abc123fhdi]

It is summer in the land down under right now, the rest of the civilized world is in winter except south america and part of Africa and New Zealand.

[@electricviking]

Glad you enjoyed the video!

[@ayushshakya4057]

@@electricviking i love the content you provide.. keep up the good work. Wish you all the best in this journey 😃😃

[@ninehundreddollarluxuryyac5958]

So in America it will "only" cost $27,600 after the 100% tariff on imported EVs that protects Tesla?

[@ravenousvisages]

Then add the 100% retailer mark up, less the 30% super sale mark down

[@joe2mercs]

Toyota are currently selling the the bZ4X with similar specifications of 150kW motor, 71kWh battery, range 260+ miles but a list price is £42k to £54k here in the U.K. The bZ3X appears to be an SUV bodied version of the same platform.

[@stevewhitmill2037]

They are not selling.

[@lookingfordrama01]

I WANT ONE

[@meehanasap]

Margins for all electric cars are going to be much smaller than people expect and very quickly so I think that's something people need to kind of wrap their heads around

[@simonpannett8810]

Special Offers to gain cash flow but probably increase when deliveries are ready??

[@TimRoach-hh7nf]

The reason they have to undercut everyone is so that people will associate electric vehicles with Toyota quality. They have to do this to get into the game.

[@flitsies]

Cars seem to be getting bigger and bigger, soon they won't be able to fit on the roads or they will take up as much space as a coach.

[@lalaeuro]

First time I've asked this question of any EV car, probably because it has the Toyota badge even though it's not - but... What price in the UK I wonder??

[@bryan.bayesian]

Take half a bottle of astaxanthin! When I was in Australia, my ex's son was in the water and got a massive lobster burn near Sydney. Around 2013. I searched all over the city and found the only bottle left! He took half of it and had a beautiful brown tan with absolutely no peeling after!

[@davidnika446]

And he doesn't have to worry about it making him looking like a lobster with blond hair! ;)

[@TerryHickey-xt4mf]

11 years ago, things have changed.

[@rassabossa4554]

I take it daily. The Interventions Testing Program (ITP) study found that astaxanthin can increase the lifespan of male mice by up to 12%. Now being tested in humans.

[@davidnika446]

​@@rassabossa4554 Yup. It occurs naturally in several types of seafood and other foods. It has anti-oxidant properties, and is very safe.

[@bakkerem1967]

LOL. Even the bots get confused.

[@grouchynorwegian8690]

I would buy one here in USA once tariffs are eliminated of course

[@kaba_me]

Toyota is doing what all Auto manufacturers should be doing. Fight back! The only reason people started buying BYD instead of Toyota is because of the price.

[@DanielRenfro]

Price in the the US. MSRP: From $43,070

[@joannbarna8235]

Sam are they going to sell this car in the States because I like it but how expensive is the model with the biggest battery

[@ucsglobal]

You mentioned previously BYD putting pressure on supply chains to cut costs. They knew Toyota wasn't going to just sit back and die. Toyota has one of the strongest brands in the world. This is a reestablishment of that.

[@AlexanderGrahamBell2]

this car have : LFP or NMC battery ?

[@michaelcatlin-e8l]

What are they offering in the States??

[@daviddoink872]

35K GBP in the the UK

[@timmarrr234]

Is this just a reskinned Aion V?

[@michellehavre6821]

can sell in US with 100 percent tariff. it will cost 30k usd but it is still cheaper than half of US make cars

[@nealsandidge3951]

Just saw the first electric vehicle on my small island (Bohol) in the Philippines. A Nissan Kicks e-power. Have you made a video about this vehicle? I know nothing about them.

[@russulpeter8724]

I hope it don’t ruin Toyota’s reputation as the best car maker in the world

[@peterbedford2610]

Never see that price in the US!!

[@bf6616]

Are they planning to flood the market and then charge for subscriptions for fsd?

[@colinwp8285]

Is it not the case JAC is state owned and it also make's VWs for VW?

[@G11713]

Batteries have gotten cheaper. Automation has made good builds cheaper. Perhaps the pricing is in anticipation of further reduction of cost to capture attention and market share at a loss. Price can always be increased if necessary, especially after word of mouth about experience of quality has spread.

[@markmorfesse8080]

Looks great, will we see them for sale here Sam? Also I am looking to buy a new EV in 2025, are there only certain models and certain battery types that can feed back into the grid and be used a home battery storage as well?

[@Jim-jh9bd]

I can buy this in Canada I can not buy a BYD So I feel it is a great idea . . I will be dropping by the Toy dealership this week . Maybe put down a deposit if I can

[@zxys001]

$43K is actual USD base model price in the USA.

[@kimchiman1000]

If it ever makes it to Canada, it will be 4 times the price.

[@spock949]

They should stick to PHEV which is actually cheaper to own than EV. Based on California energy prices anyway.

[@donalfromupnorth4856]

If Toyota decided to keep/restore a presence in the Chinese car market, I'm not sure they have a choice but to compete in the current battle. It doesn't seem to make sense, and they probably conceded more on price than necessary, but long-term (if they survive) it may pay off after a market adjustment, which is inevitable. The alternative is to down-size considerably and firm a new plan, but it's all a gamble. It will be interesting to watch this strategy play out over time. Great for customers, in the meantime, as mentioned by Sam.

[@byddf]

bZ3X is not BYD but GAC. bZ3 and bZ3C is.

[@GoodBoyGoneDad]

I would gladly buy an inexpensive Toyota EV as long as the power cell doesn't suck.

[@Flickerbrain]

Bonkers price!!

[@glenf4115]

13k aus = $8,286 USD Adding 100% tariff = $16,573 VS cheapest car sold in the US, a 2024 Mitsubishi Mirage ES: $18,160

[@duanejahn2368]

IT TELLS US THAT 30 PERCENT OF THE SALE PRICE IS THE ACTUAL MANUFACTURING PRICE FOR VEHICLES WORLDWIDE, IMO

[@zaharizahariev]

For that money in europe you can buy only the tyres.

[@phillipanderson9925]

I think it’s smart use other markets to fund the Chinese market to watch a few brands fail faster while gaining market share and force other companies to compete on more than price

[@markboscawen8330]

Toyota is likely thinking that undercutting Chinese brands in China, & perhaps causing a few to fail, is better than letting those Chinese companies get strong enough from domestic sales to then launch head to head with them in other markets.

[@tonystorcke]

That car would sell like....Actually Smart Summon.

[@gerbre1]

How many are they selling? 3 or 4?

[@Hwkman4]

I cant wait to need a new car

[@realfacts7763]

So, because this car has a Toyota logo and name on it, does it mean the price of this car in the US will be about the same as that in Australia? (I'm thinking that Japanese cars are not tax as heavy as Chinese cars in the US).