Toyota vs Honda - Which is More Reliable?

[@matz4k]

Imagine pumping gas as a job and some dude in a clapped out Toyota starts inteviewing you 😂

[@Chubby_Lemon]

bahahaha. killed me when he roasted ben for liking dua lipa

[@TinyMiniStealth]

He could have plugged his music. Missed opportunity

[@Juan_T1]

💀😂 🪦

[@Mango_Pnch]

@@TinyMiniStealthI think G&G should’ve asked for his music 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@john-danielmartin8753]

The American dream bro😅

[@David-eq8wf]

"I dont know how your so proud to say that in front of random people" had me dead😂😂😂😂

[@shahriarhaque915]

Ha ha ha, I had to revisit that couple of times. The chapter titles, ads are so genius too.

[@corygrimsrud1474]

It sounds silly, but with the civic, physically check your ignition switch. Ive had one go bad from vibration over the years and cause intermittent cutting out...replacing my ignition solved the issue.

[@ghomerhust]

id be surprised if he was still using the column switch for ignition. usually at this point, you'd be running a switch bar for safety and ease of troubleshooting

[@Miki2305.]

@@ghomerhust I saw a key in the ignition so I think he isnt using a switch panel for ignition.

[@VQSeries]

The akwardness of the l Dua Lupa conversation had me lol, but ty again for posting awesome trackday content team!

[@imSalsy]

That Kid pumping the Gas was killing me bro. LMFAO

[@its.yaboyivan4705]

Bro said “idk how you proud saying that infront of random people”

[@ryanbrown918]

🤣

[@rrrx6]

100% high af

[@Zadnak1]

A common issue on the K engine swaps is the TPS.(throttle position sensor) Try using a B series TPS, that's what has been winning part for the K swap guys I know. After that, the car was dead reliable.

[@liamflynn6929]

Sounds kinda like it might be the crank pos sensor

[@JonHop1]

Acuity Halls Effect TPS is great for K

[@williamli8645]

You can see at 10:59 that he already has the Acuity TPS, so prolly not the sensor itself in this case.

[@JonHop1]

@williamli8645 yeah Acuity TPS is awesome

[@D.c5-]

dealt with this on my first track day, high voltage tps.

[@boulaibrahim3755]

If you're looking for weight in the mr2, why not put the interior back it, it would look way nicer and add weight

[@joey_f4ke238]

For a track car that usually would be too much of a hassle, the heavier part are the seats and those can't go back in, door panels and insulation doesn't weigh much at all, hence why stripping a road car is pretty stupid since it won't get faster. The floormat is a potential fire hazard and random panels would make it more cumbersome if they need to access the area for whatever reason.

[@theprismaticsystem2833]

Metal door cards would add something I suppose, but something like abs, a dry sump, or a surge tank would honestly be better additions then the interior back, especially considering the heavy parts of the interior was the seats, even a bigger fuel cell would probably help more.

[@frankiscool2657]

I was thinking the exact same thing

[@trentmahnken3705]

To the best of my understanding there are two reasons. 1. Having an Interior can be a fire hazard in racecars and 2. Having the weigh placed low and close to the center is more advantageous that having weight higher up if he put back in his interior

[@mastercricket7626]

Fire hazard in a track only car

[@mhicaoidh1]

Oregon used to have the same law with regard to pumping gas. They got rid of it this year. I believe it is (was) essentially a jobs program.

[@brandonmiller9155]

Nah, I looked it up, it’s for fire safety. Back in the 60s when the law went into effect fuel fires were more common. It’s not so much an issue now but the New Jersey law is because of fire safety/public health

[@mhicaoidh1]

@@brandonmiller9155 yeah, my comment on it being for jobs was related to the Oregon law. They did cite a safety concern there as well, but also equitable treatment of seniors and disabled.

[@David-eq8wf]

The chapter titles are a gears and gasoline cultural piece. they can never go away. always look at them first on a new video btw: TEAM HONDA :)

[@SARKAZYMYT]

Theres no way you want a new Honda over a new Toyota though. Honda can’t make anything bigger than a 4 cylinder to save their life

[@The_Professional_Hobbiest]

Amen, go yoda

[@TJPDmember]

@@SARKAZYMYT wtf are you talking about?! Actually I know exactly what you're talking about but how does this relate to this video and civic vs mr2? Team Honda ;)

[@trashbandit2449]

​@@SARKAZYMYTtheir v6s have been excellent for the last 25 years. Way better than Toyotas underpowered v6 and lasts just as long

[@SARKAZYMYT]

@@trashbandit2449 no they don’t, I’ve seen countless odysseys and pilots needs transmissions bc Honda can’t keep up w the power.

[@Northern1906]

Konig spoiled the mr2 vinyl wrap like 5 weeks ago and he still doesnt have it 😅

[@joey_f4ke238]

They have always uploaded stuff much later than when they recorded it, like the roadtrip series, it would take ages from seeing little things on insta to the full videos on youtube

[@CalebBoender]

@@joey_f4ke238yea when ever I go to Gridlife Midwest fest that video comes out at least 4 months after the event actually happened. They just have a stock pile of videos that haven’t been uploaded.

[@bruce_son]

I heard they blew up the engine but can’t confirm if that’s actually true

[@samster978]

​@@bruce_son😢

[@Jamon1916]

With the Civic, I'm thinking it is either TPS, MAS, physical ignition switch short, or just time for a new harness. Great video either way.

[@matthewcheeseman6453]

Other than a rear wing, a flat floor would be great for the MR2, assuming the race class allows it

[@raidersperez1278]

Currently 6 am in Cali. Bout to end my 12 hour shift. Thank you G&G for this perfect upload.

[@BritAcrossThePond]

My heart rate was average 150 On the Nurburgring, spiked to 189 bpm at one point

[@xRX7x]

Check the fuse box and see if there are loose fuses. I had similar problems and needed to replace the whole fuse box because it was not able to hold the fuses tightly. The fuses would actually start moving under g-forces in the corners and would progressively get worst.

[@shakashawn8207]

that interaction with the kid pumping gas was wholesome lmao 😂

[@Mr.jPickles]

Lin’s interviewing skills are top notch. He puts some professionals to shame.

[@ProjectDuckHQ]

I made it in the video 🥹 Side note, ran out of gas as I was leaving the track and Ben Lin was right there to help, super friendly guys was amazing to meet y’all in person!

[@swecreations]

Add a floor pan! Gives a small top speed boost and weight at the lowest point of the car! It can be made as thick and heavy as you want!

[@dack981]

Short Ben finding out why pro race teams rebuild during the offseason. Poor dude, sucks to chase that kind of gremlin. Hope y'all found the source eventually!

[@clarkdef]

This series has me changing my mind on selling my MR2 I actually love how fuss free of a performance/status car it is.

[@josephsamsor1698]

I have a tuned 335d bmw and while I love it, I still had a ton of fun hopping into my friend’s na Miata. If I could justify another car I’d have an mr2 for sure but I need a practical daily rn. You cannot beat a good, NA, 4 cylinder sports car, let alone a mid engine one.

[@clarkdef]

You can have a good relationship with any car if it's trusty. Like a good horse that is solid, sound and true and that's what my Mr2 is. Mx5s are the best fun originally wanted one of those instead, but test drove the Mr2 and it felt good to me.@@josephsamsor1698

[@jordanpanich]

Always a highlight of my Saturday mornings!

[@TrenC21]

The MR2 is looking so much more stable into the corners and exiting, set up is looking so much better. Well Done!

[@deesautohouse367]

Hey Ben T, On my K series engines, I've had to replace the coilpack pigtail connectors due to the wires cracking internally and causing inconsistencies. You probably won't be able to diagnose it bc the break in the wire can happens on and off (usually stops working due to vibrations in the engine at running speeds). Also another common issue that can occur is the TPS going out with vibrations of aftermarket motor mounts. Unfortunately, there isn't much you can do about preventing it unless you want to go back to stock motor mounts to soak up the vibrations.

[@camryt]

I'm eager to see how the MR2 performed in its final form, cause I still believe it needs harded springrates (especially since you went with much higher weight than stock), judging from the footage so far.

[@UberSpartanVG]

I live in Oregon where as of the past few months we can finally self pump. We have one racetrack with gas pumps but it's way out in the boonies so it was self pump, so it didnt even cross my mind that tracks would have attendants too in more populated areas...

[@willwastaken]

Try putting the ballast in the frunk of the MR-S. Also shift the brake bias forward, reduce the rear ride height, and add some toe-in at the rear

[@shadoweddy7]

Fuel cell in the front and a wing in the rear for weight. Watch the video on a guy that visits techno spirit garage. Championship winning car. Holds a lap record in japan. Beat the drift king and his car(the guy they based initial d on). He literally beat takumi. That guy invented fast mr2 spyders. He gives his set up and specs for everything of his car. Years and years of r and d for free.

[@Clark_R]

Under hood temps too hot ya say, as you track a car without hood vents, lol.

[@Username_CC_]

should have linked that kids music below tbh great video as always

[@ZackGoFast]

I love my 96 corolla. 1.6l w/5speed. Missing all kinds of hood paint. Big ol wing. 3inch exhaust no cat no muffler and a pair of jl 12w6v3's. Not fast just loud. Its a shitbox but damn it makes me smile in a way my new car does not.

[@williamt1579]

With the united auto workers strike going on, Toyota and Honda will once again rule the world

[@fordmustang269]

Sadly they won't. Kia and hyundai are competing in the same cheap market. Toyotas and hodnas just price above the average consumer right now

[@GreenBlueWalkthrough]

To be fair they still have to compete with Tesla, the germans and even the big three as the UAW only seem to be in Detroit the place where you design cars not build them.

[@travspumplife]

They always have ruled the world! Let’s not forget VW and the dieselgate and they paid it off and still rule the Euro world

[@SARKAZYMYT]

@@fordmustang269they’re priced higher bc they’re more reliable, Kia and Hyundai are cheaper bc they are cheaper made literally lol. Horrible engines and trans, etc

[@fordmustang269]

@SARKAZYMYT you're not wrong, but most consumers just look at the price tag and the warrenty nowadays. Doesn't matter to them

[@kobra289]

Have you changed settings on your brake propositioning valve. That would help your front to rear brake bias.

[@jhref]

I am once again here for the chapter title engagement

[@doctormosfet]

One thing you guys should speak about more is how much your back must be killing you after wrenching on your broken Civic all day, and then you have to get in the car and drive it hard.

[@kellenray9326]

Hey guys pick up the Aultel power probe for chasing those electrical gremlins. It will save you massive amounts of time. Best of luck!

[@ghomerhust]

the 24 Hours of Lemons races at NJMP ever year, and we always have to deal with that fuel pumping issue. it's annoying, but what's america known for if not really strange laws?

[@benpeterson7530]

The ballast is about $1,000 mod. Calibrated powerlifting plates are a bit overkill here haha.

[@sooyster4033]

Sooooooooooooo good to see you guys back on the track!!!!!!

[@MR_ii_5150]

I really like the kids passion about music. He's right, music is a language everyone can understand.

[@Dylan-qv9sv]

That boy straight roasted him, “I dont know how you’re so proud to say that to random people” 😂😂 Dua Lipa is a baddie though. Go Ben go

[@shotamakarashvili3714]

You guys should have known by now that tuning on the dyno is far away from tuning on the drive. In fact, it can be two different tunes for the same car...

[@povoljan13]

Best part of the video for me, the bg music, the editing, and what you see. What's the bg music title is btw? 13:04 - 13:37

[@mohammadkhalil1914]

You should put the weights under the mr2 towards the front or add more under body chassis bracing

[@EastsideBodega_]

Can’t wait till we get a “Painting the MRS” video

[@michaelblacktree]

Spoiler alert: It got a vinyl wrap. G&G hasn't shown it yet.

[@EastsideBodega_]

@@michaelblacktree anything is better than what it looks like in the video

[@mjjj9509]

@@michaelblacktreekinda mental how long ago this all actually was

[@dkis8730]

@@EastsideBodega_ ngl im not a huge fan of the new wrap tho

[@fron911]

why doesnt ben run a rear wing on the mr2 like techno spirits mrs

[@gardhydahl8395]

Talk to dannydc2 about the mr2 the maddest and raddest mr2 driver the world has ever seen

[@joshrowe9225]

His championship stats say otherwise ;) Adam lockwood and shaun traynor may have something to say lol

[@gardhydahl8395]

@@joshrowe9225 well he is still the maddest and raddest never said fastest!

[@zeal00]

Wish I had known you guys were at NJMP, I would've made the trip out to watch the racing!

[@collinwiedel]

I have been really hesitant about the mr2 build, just because it started out so freaking ratty. But damn I’m starting to really like it. Can’t wait for more to get done with it- my suggestion though, as someone who doesn’t really track (take this as you will) add weight by performance, whatever that may be- ABS, sump, etc. my other suggestion would be obviously corner balance and spread those weights out if you can. There is a lot of weight really low, but also further forward than you sit. Might notice a slight difference if you shift that weight a little. Edit- for the civic, it probably is time for the harness to be replaced, alongside coils, plug wires, and check the ignition switch. Edit 2, again for the mr2, I think adding a dash back in wouldn’t hurt. Add a couple pounds and you’d be surprised how much appearances that you are looking at in the car can build your confidence

[@zerohikari2685]

Spoilers, he blows it up 2 events from now

[@collinwiedel]

@@zerohikari2685 the mr2?

[@zerohikari2685]

@@collinwiedel Yep check out Gridlife Limerock. He blows it up on the last lap of the first race.

[@EmptyPocketRacers]

Very interesting testing data, it would be great to add to the equation also the driving performance for each lap/session which can be provided by @vprating. It also provides the true sustained lateral, acceleration and braking Gs so you would have instantly an idea of what is going on.! Can't wait for the door to door action as well!!

[@brown_snowboarder]

Telling Ben Lin the past tense of brake is braked, not broke, until he notices me (take 2)

[@mrjklee]

@ben, if you are making less power with normal pump gas. This would mean you are able to hold down the throttle longer before braking. Just a thought.

[@thegreenthing7603]

Will be glad to see if you do something about those mr2 yellowy headlamps its really driving me nuts.. 😅

[@falco642]

He gonna wrap the headlights in yellow .

[@Barry.ONeill]

I always thought about that in the N/A rally cars that e85 would add more weight than the 10 hp it's worth 🤷‍♂️

[@hangmanfsc]

azn ben out here hitting on the fuel attendants.. i love it!

[@GameRelic]

Whenever that MR2 gets wrapped its going to look so good, can't wait too not see that hood anymore with scratches on it.

[@franklyescala934]

Why don’t you put on a wing in the mr2

[@EMc71]

For fun, you should get that kid’s music on a video of yours. The kid who pumped the gas.

[@edci9370]

Thx G&G as it gives me some boost to fix my 17 year old FG

[@jesseselinsky6535]

Do BMW E46 MK60 ABS!!! I run it, and love it. Plus relatively cheap!

[@daniwamoto5133]

The football style overlay graphics looked so professional, someone's been hitting SkillShare

[@firlyafianto6820]

The ballast is need cause the front of car in MR S is very light than the rear, need more grip on front wheel to make it stable and the wheel base from MR S is too short from factory, that make it very agile and not stable if you push hard

[@bobbybawbager]

Been looking forward to this 🙌

[@AmirPomen]

Why the mr2 didnt have big rear wing? Its much needed for such chassis layout especially at high speed

[@250plate]

I spilled my gas listening to Ben talk about how Dua Lipa is a baddie. LOL ... that's why you can't pump your own gas in Jersey.

[@Glematose]

The chapter titles are criminally underrated

[@Jmalicdin]

Saturdays are for the G&G

[@corwininadsm]

Put a restrictor on it so it reduces peak hp and doesn't greatly reduce overall hp.

[@yakult1725]

all i want to see is mark driving on these tracks

[@turbo_co27]

From someone who lives in NJ, apparently the reason we can't pump our own gas is bc it "creates jobs" to have people pump our gas for us. Whether it's effective or worth it is up to personal opinion, but every time they vote to change it, it loses the popular vote. Who knows why, but I will say that our gas prices aren't as high as our neighbors so it doesn't seem to raise the prices, and at the end of the day that's really what matters., I will say that it's kind of nice when it's below freezing and you can just vibe in your warm car. Not so nice when they DRIP GAS ONTO THE PAINT. Or forget to tighten the cap and it throws a code.

[@paoweezysvlogs3278]

Love the reality show concept lmao

[@damcleandetailing]

Dua Lipa makes reggaeton, you heard it hear first folks!

[@memolopez9710]

Ben, please please PLEASE polish the headlights of the MR2

[@gouldnj]

What happened to the wrap on the MR2? Check your ignition main power switch, they go bad from vibration.

[@yongling9825]

At the time it was filmed, it doesn't have its livery yet.

[@jrbuch]

Good on that dude pursuing his career in spanish music. This is the best part of the video.

[@kftmotorsport]

i've been wondering bout weight distribution. So Ben, tell me how if... you move the plate carrier to frunk? Would it affect your front grip? It'll be easier to reduce oversteering issue i guess....?

[@b3nny90]

The mr2 looks like a pogo stick bouncing through the corners. It may be the track but it looks unstable. But still good to see out there.

[@leeslimz7606]

Basic question. Is there a reasonbBen isnt running a nice big wing on the MR-S? I know there definitely benefits and no splitter either. Is this like a process thing?

[@TypeVertigo]

This was tackled in the previous video. Basically aero parts will affect the balance of performance. Same reason why the MR2 requires 300 lb of ballast to run a theoretical 230 HP in the race.

[@SK777ENT]

My simple suggestion is for you to learn some lessons from the legendary touge techno M R S,and also adjust your driverstyle to match it.

[@beauwulf]

Seems like it would make way more sense to reduce power (detune and run lower octane gas in the MR2) and reduce the ballasts, then add a big wing. The car is just not as aero as corvettes, so it will never match their top speeds, regardless of power/weight ratio. Better to just double down on what the MR2 is already good at.

[@dkis8730]

If power to weight and aero are equal, then the car with more absolute power will be faster, as frictional losses from tires aren't nearly as high of a force as drag is. I believe that was his motivation behind adding weight as opposed to detuning.

[@beauwulf]

@@dkis8730Yes, the heavier car will definitely be faster in top speed due to drag. However, you lose handling dynamics, and if the mechanical grip is not increased, you lose cornering speed.

[@LMFAO5001]

A simple solution for the steering bind would be to get a bigger steering wheel. It cant bind at full lock if you cant reach full lock lol

[@IchiiMedia]

9:30 the Dua Lipa part had me laughin 😂

[@BPBomber]

Man, if there was any flippin car that needed a livery…

[@yongling9825]

It has a livery now, this footage is a few months old.

[@itsmeng5053]

Yes I have been waiting for this

[@fcorivers]

A 96 Corolla with a 3gste or a beams swap should be decent

[@harrisonmorin616]

Yayyyyyyyy G&G content. I look forward to this all week 😁

[@enso3140]

Again an idea to both ben`s especially ben since hes gonna take the mr2 back to the dyno. try to get a tune that flattens your hp curve as reasonable as possible since you are limited by peak hp and that defines you power to weight you are better running a slightly lower peak hp because that will translate in a higher power to weight overall. Consider this if for an example you go from 210 to 230 and back in a 2000 rpm band in considering the 0.08hp/lb ratio of gltc it would require you to weight 2875lbs would actually have in average 0.0765 hp/lb/ But if you manage to flatten the curve to 210 to 220 and back it would get you an average power to weight of 0.782lbs/hp and in a racecar that can be the difference between p1 and p10 on such a tight pack

[@YourGoddamRight]

I love the early morning vidoes.

[@benkasper4035]

Can you just go to spectate mid ohio for gltc? That sounds like fun

[@tylee9887]

I love the silly little chapter titles!

[@SecwetGwiwer]

Yeah, Dua Lipa’s pretty hot 😆

[@SheldonHernandez-h4c]

As a honda guy from trinidad it hurts me to not that car running

[@5iable]

BEN can you share the data you got?? E85 vs 93?

[@PastelBlackBunny]

12:09 Pour Over coffee pot detected! Looks like we got us some coffee snobs here boys (I say as I delicately sip french roast sweet cream latte) lmaoo

[@demusp316]

I daily 2018 Accord and my fun car MK3 Supra 1JZ

[@chrismorgan7020]

Time for a RyWire harness in the civic maybe?

[@cronking]

Who do you use for the fiberglass body kit? I need a guy.

[@Dre_Records]

Why don't you respray the mr2 with the widebody

[@bigercat]

Plug that kid at the pump! Im curious about the music!

[@michaelblacktree]

Alanis Morisette would say "Isn't that ironic?" 😛