Trace Evidence - 029 - The Disappearance of Teresa Lynn Butler

[@lucbelcher7256]

Update! Just in November of 2019 an arrest was made. I'm from Missouri, so I was very curious to check on this case. - A man came by to do meth with her. He injected both of them, she said her chest hurt and then she died. He took items to make it look like a robbery. He put her body on an abandoned property of his father's house under a sink for a couple years while he was in prison, he then got out and moved her body. He burned her body and crushed whatever was left. - There were two people he spoke to afterwards, who traded the camera and such for meth. They said the video in the camera was Teresa and children. Instead of showing cops they burned the tape and threw the camera in water (it was recovered). I think they should be in a bit of trouble too for not coming fully clean when they were interviewed all those years ago. When this couple was interviewed again, a couple years ago they admitted they still had the game console and four games. The police took them. They have never been able to locate any of her body. I found several news stories from Google, so if you are interested in reading about this, Google her name. Hope her children and spouse are okay!

[@darian6485]

Wow that's terrible like what is wrong with people may she rest in peace

[@matsamnicfam]

Thanks for the update...👍👍

[@babyfacebotox5487]

I had a strange feeling that she had let a druggie that she knew into her house for them both to do drugs and something went wrong so it was staged as a robbery

[@russeldevries1642]

He didn't overdose her . He used this as a cover up for him straight killing her . He didnt need to pose the house as a robbery or move her body ...knowing her autopsies would show she died by overdose if in fact r that was the cause . All he had to do was get rid of finger prints and beat ass out of there . He killed her on purpose and robbed and raped her and destroyed her body . When he was caught he told the drug story to ease the charges .

[@lucbelcher7256]

@@russeldevries1642 Were you close to the victim?

[@devinisdead4061]

Maybe she didn't want them to know the children were upstairs so she said hey I've got money in the ATM and my car stereo and led them away on purpose?

[@tammywisecup5634]

Thinking like a parent 👍

[@craighall689]

I hope so and if she did what a superhero and God bless her

[@miekhelavlenzo1819]

Sounds like they knew when the husband would be at work and they used a bump key. It broke but unlocked the door. She was sleeping on the couch or they made her sit there while gathering the electronics and she took off her rings to hide from them and threw under the couch.

[@jomoland]

My thoughts exactly !

[@marybethwylie811]

This makes sense for sure. Thank you for sharing!

[@donnaDinMiss]

Sounds about right . So very sad . 😪

[@iamglow7]

Agree. I think they then took her out of the house to make her use the atm , once away from the house and her babies , she fought and was injured/killed/dumped. Horrible no matter what happened :(

[@richardbrake9454]

what is a bump key?

[@marybethwylie811]

I love your detail! I can't imagine the work that goes into this. Shorter podcasts/videos often leave me with tons of questions wishing I had more information and usually end up searching the topic looking for more details. I feel like this can be my one stop without a need to look for more answers to my questions. Thank you from me, a person with interest in unsolved crimes and missing persons cases. I'm sure the families and friends are extremely thankful as well.

[@TraceEvidencePodcast]

Mary Beth Wylie thank you for the kind compliment. I am like you in that I want to know all the details and that's a big reason I started the show, because I wanted to do something more comprehensive.

[@beckyboohowells]

When's the next podcast?

[@ingridj7070]

@@TraceEvidencePodcast So glad I subscribed to your show and joined your discussion group on Facebook recently. Keep up the amazing work.

[@christopherweingart9757]

@@TraceEvidencePodcast What if this whole story was fabricated to cover up the fact that she turned states evidence against a cartel? I think there is evidence to prove that is the case.

[@missm1548]

It does seem like maybe she dumped the rings under the couch so they wouldn't be taken by whoever was in the house.

[@oneamong5571]

Right away. I thought the rings were a Clue that she left. Which could have something to do with the marriage? Or I should say previous marriage. Also the phone calls we're a clue as to what direction she was traveling. These were my initial thoughts..

[@beagledog2001]

I thought so, too.

[@thisisme3238]

I feel she was trying to send a message by leaving the rings and by where she left the rings ...to be found by a family member. Would question how often the husband has breakfast with his mother though...especially since his ex was served with divorce papers a few days prior to all of these strange happenings...

[@eddieremington370]

I know I am pretty off topic but does anybody know of a good place to watch new tv shows online ?

[@lucianoreginald9276]

@Eddie Remington lately I have been using FlixZone. You can find it on google =)

[@lexiefourthman1562]

Hey, I live just a few houses away from where she used to live. Our town all knows this story it’s scary and heartbreaking. My family knew her. We never know what’s going to happen any day so live everyday to the fullest❤️

[@Ninatoro39]

How was she as a neighbor??

[@hotpockets3660]

I would like to know more about that broken key. Did law enforcement ever find out I'd that broken key paired with that lock? If so, I couldn't been Teresa trying to get inside the house quickly to escape danger as if she was running from something or someone. If Not, is it a possibility that the broken key could've belonged to the last resident that lived there before Teresa and her husband and that person returned to the home with sinister intentions thinking that the locks had not been changed?? Also, her wedding rings tells a story all of their very own. I too do not feel that Teresa's husband was involved in anyway in the case. I do however, hope that these two families and Teresa's husband finds the answers they so desperately seek therefore, finds closure, forgiveness and peace.

[@novit5798]

@@hotpockets3660 I believe her husband´s ex wife had something to do. She gave the key she had kept from when she lived in the house, to the murderer, but the lock had been changed, and that´s why it broked. Then, rang the bell and Teresa opened the door.....I don´t believe she was on meth. When this scumbag comes out, I will just ................,he doesn´t deserve to live. Also the killer knew Teresa was alone, was her husband with her mother or his ex ?..............

[@deannekliene2673]

And no one else has disappeared?? That would point to a "personal" crime.....the ex knew then so maybe she snatched a key.....or it being broken means someone handled the lock n key very rough as if stressed....

[@vadaharris4855]

This is so sad. A man has confessed to giving Theresa too much Meth! She overdosed and died. He hid her body for years. Her husband, Dale, who apparently loved her so much, died on the anniversary of her disappearance in January 2018. I hope the awful man that killed her gets the death sentence. Her family has been devastated.

[@thisisme3238]

How do you know all this? Explain where you got this info, thank you.

[@Northcoastgirl03]

​@ThisIsMe Simply Google her name. It's confirmed. He is serving 10 years for killing her. I doubt his story though.

[@JulieSkinner-f6x]

Google

[@RealFluse]

He got 10 years

[@lucylaroux9355]

My gut feeling is honestly that Dale had nothing to do with it at all.

[@msmystery4933]

Thorough research and detailed attention to the facts as always. I appreciate the careful consideration of all of the theories you present. Love this podcast!

[@TheRoadhammer379]

I have hauled steel tube out of Maverick Tube in Blytheville Ark many times, and I can absolutely say that Dale was not lying about difficulty making calls from the location.

[@janety.1323]

How could it not have been known that she did meth? She was made out to be a naive, innocent angel.

[@deannekliene2673]

Most addicts are good people until they try a chemical, especially when under high stress personal issues. It doesn't make them a bad person ....but a sick person.....

[@JulieSkinner-f6x]

Agreed

[@layrathompson2869]

Soon.. I'm going to PayPal you a few dollars even though I'm cheap.. hope others do as well.. You have the best voice for this! Great detail

[@beckyboohowells]

When's the next podcast due? Came across your channel week or so ago. Watched all the videos and love so much what you do! So much detail and love the podcasts are so long and that you cover stories I've never seen and that need the attention. Great work and can't wait for the next upload

[@Bigwave2003]

What do you expect to be of "major value" in the home of a WalMart worker and her husband who works an overnight shift at a factory? Also, a threat to her children if Teresa didn't go along willingly could explain why there's no evidence of a struggle.

[@russeldevries1642]

This was a murder ...rape . And took whatever might be around as well. He used meth overdose story to ease the charges against him.

[@thisisme3238]

@@russeldevries1642 What's with the meth overdose story? No mention of that in the podcast...

[@LL-sh5gm]

Thanks for all your hard work. I really love what you do.

[@daniiiakasha4711]

She was doing meth with someone and died. The person she was with hid her remains and cremated her a few years later

[@derby1884]

I see this case has been solved now. Is it true Teresa was a meth user, then? Not how she was portrayed!

[@Laura-tp8wz]

Great job-Thanks for these great podcasts!!!

[@laurabuehler]

I would think that the inexpensive items that were missing were the most expensive items they owned. Remember, she worked at Wal-Mart. I doubt they had a lot of discretionary money to have expensive items.

[@KM-pp4je]

Plus they were easy to pawn.

[@selinasway1]

Hi love your show, you should definitely look into the Springfield 3, it's awesome mystery. I know this is an older show but I hope you get this message. It's about two girls who just graduated from high school in Springfield MO. They were going to parties and they stopped by one of the girls mothers home and then they disappeared they were going to go to Branson but decided to stay at home, no one knows what happened to these two girls and one girls mother, this happened in 1992 and there has been a lot of speculation, this would make a very good episode, I think lol. I moved to Springfield MO in 1995 and it's unreal that we can't find any trace of them. Thanks love your show...

[@mandyheitkamp4934]

Why so many thumbs down??

[@tracievendetta1908]

Mandy Heitkamp Probably other jealous podcasters or you tubers because he’s so good!

[@SpicyTexan64]

@Zebra Lady75 And you can't spell know genius.

[@guitarwolf6848]

Good Boy Buddy I’ll bet your mom/sister is soooo proud of you! The first one in the clan that can spell a four-letter word!

[@josephdale69]

Because the case has been solved.

[@HUKIT.]

What about Dales oldest son? The items taken were definitely something an older child or teenager would take.

[@joyceyagoda4207]

Like the elderly woman in Ohio, recovering from cancer, had a home invasion! They removed that woman from the house and have never found her body. It unfortunately, happens!

[@cashwiles7110]

RIP Dale. Can you do an update to this story. Dale was a friend of mine that I worked with for 7 years, he killed himself. Dale was always happy , the only time I had seen him tear up what when he had talked about her. There’s updates to this story.

[@Tsumami__]

After reading the comments and seeing the update someone posted, I still think she took the rings off and hid them under the couch so that they wouldn’t be stolen. The freak she chose to get high with probably felt like he was owed money for getting her high (that was undoubtedly not the first time they’d banged meth together) and probably started to look around for items to steal. She may have taken a moment he was out of the living room area to slide them under the couch, being something she couldn’t easily replace like a PlayStation or GameCube. It probably wasn’t enough so he took her too. Always be careful who you hang out with, especially if you’re getting intoxicated with them.

[@tuesdayjanae3676]

Can you do a podcast on the Delphi double homicide of Abby and Libby pls, I would love to hear your insight and opinion. That case truly bothers me, I live your channel BTW 😊

[@Laura-tp8wz]

Tuesday Janae Agreed. Also the Evansdale Iowa cousins.

[@sfletch3042]

I really think the man in the cell phone vid was the killer. I feel like he is a serial killer also. Poor babies. Rip Abby and Libby. I hope they get justice soon.

[@Em22-wtf]

Gray Hughes does a bunch of very good videos on that case. He debunks a lot of the nonsense out there too.

[@snowblo1]

You're really pretty. Pretty lady indeed.

[@tinaturtle8664]

No offense, but this wouldn't have been such a mystery if police had known she was willing to use meth and had methead friends. Drugs put people on harm's way, even the best people. RIP.

[@Ynvmedistime]

A suspect earlier in the case has been convicted to 10 years in prison for her murder.

[@TheRoadhammer379]

I could only imagine how the internet armchair detectives would talk if my wife went missing and was featured on this podcast. "The husband knows more than he's saying, after all he's conveniently gone when his wife went missing"... yeah never mind that I'm a long haul trucker, gone for 3 weeks at a time. Lmao 😂

[@elizabethbrett1946]

She left her rings under the couch as a message. She hid them so the perps wouldn't see them and steal them. She cooperated as she had two young children sleeping in the house. She was protecting her kids. This is what makes sense.

[@avalonpark1574]

She was into photography, maybe she took a picture of someone or something not knowing what she did. Or she work at photography at Walmart, maybe someone or something she saw and she mentioned it in passing not knowing the significance of what she saw but someone thought she did. Remember people stated that she was friendly and friendly people talk a lot no fault of her own it probably was just her nature.

[@glendaharris4776]

You are the best!

[@christaguariglia3241]

What if the calls were other hits the abductor was thinking about making that night and made the calls to see if those individuals were home or anyone was home...assuming this was robbery or something targeting specific people for a certain reason. The abductor would want to use another phone besides their own to make calls like that obviously so maybe they just took advantage of the ability to use her phone. The fact that the second call was to two older women who lived together makes this theory seem plausible BC obviously elderly women are often easier targets than someone younger or a stronger man.

[@jacquelyngostas778]

My thoughts exactly!

[@sensate444]

Interesting theory.

[@jen30551]

Scary thought. And now that we know who did it, I think it's entirely possible that's exactly what he was doing. At very least, he made the calls to throw people off. Or poor Theresa was frantically dialing for help. That is the thought that will keep me up tonight...

[@SJ-ni6iy]

I also wondered if the abductor had called these people.

[@joansmith3296]

Whenever I hear of young mothers disappearing without a trace I'm always suspicious of foul play. Because as a rule mothers don't just walk out on their kids. Especially young children.

[@SpicyTexan64]

Meth OD. Google it.

[@Jessica-pv9ji]

How rural is the home? Nearest neighbor? Who was the last relative she spoke to? How far away did they live? Still so many questions.... But you do a great job. I had never heard of this case

[@annabelle7626]

Don't answer the door unarmed.

[@Brind-amour]

Highly appreciate your work.

[@sfletch3042]

These pictures of her (circa 2006) literally look like 6 different women. Wtf She was either targeted for sexual assault or she was killed by someone with a personal vendetta. She did not leave those kids. The details surrounding the supposed robbery scream staged scene to me.

[@twf2000]

The most interesting thing I heard was the two phone calls that were made from her phone. Think about it, even in 2006, you didn’t take out your phone and DIAL a number. You found the person in your contacts just like you do today. So one of two things happened and both point to an abductor undoubtedly making the calls. 1. The people that were called know more than they’ve said OR 2. The abductor dialed random phone numbers in a hope to throw off the investigation.

[@wizardari]

I thought about this too the need to look into who could have possibly called those two ppl

[@danamarrero8699]

Love the work you do! I listen to your podcasts when I go walking at night. I always get the feeling to look back often to make sure no one is following me. I definitely believe this was foul play and she was forced to leave the home by more than one person. I wonder if they fingerprinted the door knobs and light bulbs. I also wonder if they checked local pawn shops for the items missing.

[@happydayz7857]

I think it’s possible the psycho ex wife had her killed or someone robbed them thinking they had drugs on the premises. If it really looked like a robbery and not a staged robbery, it would be drug related. No one would want to break in there otherwise

[@johnackermann9146]

I remember this story , I’m glad the person came forward.

[@brainsareus]

I don't know if Dale is involved in anything nefarious, but it seems like he is quite remarkably obtuse about the relationship between his missing and ex-wives; or, he knows more about that than he wants to lead on.

[@antonglas7488]

Back 28 years ago in the UK one of my co-workers who I knew fairly well was working night shifts as well as my self at the time, we were security guards. He and his wife were in their mid 30s and they had 2 young children a boy and a girl. He idolised his wife and according to us co-workers the couple had a happy 9 year marriage. Then at one time he was given 3 days off of work. During the day a neighbour called him over and told my co-worker she had been seeing a lot of strange men going in and out his house during the night. He said nothing and when returning to work decided to seek off and visit his home during the late hours. As he crept inside he discovered his wife having s*x with a strange guy. It transpired that his wife had been selling s*xual services at his home while he was at work. Soon he filed for divorce. My point being Teresa hiding her wedding rings could mean she didn`t want certain people to know she was married and this could be another scenario as to her fate. But I guess we`ll never really know.

[@theewisestforever7861]

That is a good point about the rings .. maybe she did put them their to show something was very wrong..

[@melissaj6982]

Was her 4yr old ever questioned at the time?

[@itsgavin8150]

Teresa is my mom

[@melissaj6982]

@@itsgavin8150 Do u remember anything? Your mom is beautiful!

[@lynsirobertson3527]

@@itsgavin8150 hey gavin. I hope life isnt so rough for you, and you're not traumatized by this. I can't imagine being a child and waking up to my momma not being there.. reach out if you ever need help!

[@carmenanne9385]

Did the EX ever live in this same house?? I think the bulb was unscrewed because at some point the plan was to go in THAT door.

[@oneamong5571]

Where was the light bulb? Was it just unscrewed or was it missing? If it was there were fingerprints taken? Lots of questions?

[@Anna-nc6xh]

What have her kids said in the time since she went missing??

[@tomcat2395]

They were probably too young ?

[@redpillfreedom6692]

It was his ex-wife in tandem with another unknown person. That explanation makes the most sense.

[@hughiegibson1716]

Nope, case has been solved. The person came forward and some of her remains have been found. She died from accidental overdose and they hid the body out of fear of being caught. It is a sad sad story.

[@Beckett4631-s4c]

I believe the criminals wanted money etc...since her kids were everything to her , she stated " take me, I'll go willingly if you leave my kids alone " this seems very plausable knowing with her knowing her husband will be home "soon". This explains the lack of ransacking. She may have expected to make it out alive , and that's why she deposited her wedding rings under the couch.

[@katie2152]

Horrible and to think only 10 yrs and less if he tells where he put her. I understand family wants to know, and honestly I would too...just unfair.

[@averyking3975]

I'd love to know A) did the phone calls from the ex wife stop? B) did the police search her phone records and ping her phone to find out if she'd been near the home that night (or had anyone she'd been in contact with)

[@eileenwright1742]

Avery King Case has been solved. Google it. She was shooting meth with a guy at her home, overdosed, he panicked, took her body and burned it. He’s been caught, confesses, and confirmed. Just 8 days ago, 11/22/2019. Sad.

[@sfletch3042]

I honestly feel the key to solving this case lies in discovering why those numbers were dialed from her cell.

[@SHurd-rc2go]

Thanks, years in the future. Still a very sad story. What happened to those wee boys?

[@BooThing14]

Its a trip cause I was thinking this was drug related and that she was the one on drugs. I thought about how she had been breaking out with acne according to Sarah's testimony, that's meth. I thought "she got caught up with meth". She had small children..maybe she felt overweight, maybe she was just bored.. mmnn maybe her husband was into it too..working nights is tough...but I thought it was drugs- her on meth...so I googled her..and wouldnt you know..an arrest was made and her alleged dealer was sentenced for manslaughter in her case..she died of a dose of what she thought was meth, allegedly..it appears her dealer went to see her and killed her with bad drugs.... i dunno could have been straight up murder or could have been accidental....not to boast but I watch these cases and sometimes I just know more or less what happened...I just feel it and know it...im like that with real life people in my life..i sense things..and I'm right a lot of the time...

[@joyceyagoda4207]

Possible she heard someone steal the sterile from her car and went outside to see what was going on!

[@BellaLucia11]

wondering if there were any oddball adolescents in her/their lives. One that perhaps became obessed with her. Explains why there was little struggle with them. Explains why she may trust to open the door (but not necessarily trust them & quickly stashes the rings) Also explains the low level theft items. Crazed abduction, first purpose being sexual & robbery second. I think she went willingly with a younger person thinking she'd make it back safely to her kids.

[@tarynhill8094]

Great case. Thank you

[@ifcatshadthumbs...664]

Did the police or child services ever try to talk to the four yr old son about what he may have heard or seen?

[@sammyshehole]

What if the rings were off because Dale’s ex wife (I assume being jealous of Dale and Teresa’s marriage) made her take the wedding ring off before forcing her to go somewhere? Or she took them off Teresa’s hand herself and tossed it away.

[@feliciabenavides5022]

She left with whoever came in the house, she left her rings as a sign of danger , she left because she DIDNT want her children to get hurt ... they took her to then murder her ... the stuff reported missing in the house is a cover up ... it was either Dale or the ex ....

[@Disconn3cted]

Haven't listened to the podcast yet, just read the video description. Wow. This is a really sad case, and a really weird one. The drug deal is a red-hearing, or about half of the other evidence is. I hope someone can figure this out.

[@4Mr.Crowley2]

I think you are right. I think the camera/drug dealer story is not a reliable lead in this case.

[@4Mr.Crowley2]

“I tried over and over”? Steven you quoted something her husband said that kind of gave me the chills if I understood you I correctly, and if the quote is accurate - you quoted the husband as saying he placed the call at eleven p.m. but Teresa didn’t answer (no voicemail on her phone? Isn’t that odd?) He said he didn’t find that unusual so he went out w/mom the next morning. Then you quoted him saying, “I tried again and again but she never answered.” Doesn’t that seem strangely inconsistent? Did he call once, think it was normal she didn’t answer (or that the phone call didn’t “go out” - I wonder why there was no voicemail however - he would have known if the call didn’t “go out” as if it did he would have reached voicemail), and then went out with mom w/out returning home or calling again? Or did he claim he kept trying “over and over” but never got an answer, including no voicemail apparently, and still went out with his mother even though a lot of time had gone by? I didn’t want to focus on him honestly but those details bother me. I was also thinking that the wedding rings under the couch -that was deliberate so someone couldn’t see them, and it was something that took a few seconds and presence of mind to do. Something tells me a frantic mother trying to protect her children from home invaders wouldn’t think to do all of that - it seems like a very deliberate message. Also, not listing more expensive items that were “stolen” if they were made up items - more expensive items would be known to more family members and they would be easier to confirm the purchase/possession of (as opposed to smaller electronics which could have been paid for with cash). The abduction aspect is unusual for home invaders - but it does happen. The part that makes no sense is that they never actually made her try to withdraw any money, which in every case I know of (even cases that ended in the murder of the abducted) the person (OR the abducters) is seen trying to acquire money.

[@taticatnineland]

aleister crowley I agree. There are small details like these that have always nagged at me since the day I heard about poor Teresa. I’m not certain that her husband did it or masterminded it, but it’s always bothered me that he describes trying to phone her and not knowing if she’d gone to sleep or if he just couldn’t get a call out because of bad reception. Whaaaat??? When I call someone and they’re asleep, at the very least I hear a phone ringing...even if it’s a cell phone...and then I get their voicemail (as you pointed out). When I’m in an area with low or no coverage, I *don’t* hear the normal phone call sounds. That or the bars of signal strength is my first tip-off. I can’t understand what her husband does when he calls people that he’s confused as to whether they’ve gone to bed or he has no signal. That is completely nonsensical to me.

[@sfletch3042]

I doubt that the motive was theft. These people were working class. more likely that she was targeted for sexual assault etc..unless it was her husband or someone else with a vendetta who wanted her dead.

[@tammysutton9179]

Very sad

[@megannicole8705]

If I'm home alone with my babies and say I hear someone putting a key in the door, I would assume it was someone I know. I would go to open the door to realize I was wrong. My only thought would be for my babies. Maybe that's why they both in the same room? She put them in her room to keep them safe from whoever.

[@katerryjackson749]

I'm afraid she's no longer alive. Foul play definitely happened

[@ChestyBPuller]

I used to work with her at Walmart in Dexter. She was so sweet!

[@richardbrake9454]

It is silly to put too much emphasis on who called police first without any other evidence. Women usually panic more at first and would call quickly. I do not believe she planned her disappearance. The broken key is a sign of foul play, and one does not need to break a key off in a lock to fool people into believing she met foul play. I think the rings were taken off so her abductor(s) would not be able to find and steal them. So why was there not any sign of a struggle? I think she negotiated away her life to save the children. In other words, she went without a struggle. She may have been involved in something and I believe she knew the abductor. The phone calls are weird. Only two calls were made from her phone after the last time her husband spoke to her. Neither of the people who received a call from her phone claim to know her or her family. The first call was made to someone in the city she hails from. Normally when someone calls a number by mistake, another called is immediately made to the correct number. In this situation there were not any follow up calls. It is very possible the abductor made these calls. Even if this is true, it does not mean the people receiving these calls were in on the disappearance/home invasion. If Teresa made those calls, I suppose it is possible she misdialed in haste, and was not able to redial, but then why would she call someone in her old town and not her husband. or 911? Very odd! Maybe one or both of those calls were made under duress, and maybe she did not call 911 out of fear she would be killed for doing so. A smart perpetrator would confiscate the phone; therefore, it is likely those calls were made by the perpetrator. I find these phone calls to be the most perplexing part of the whole case. I also think these phone calls are the only real leads and more emphasis should placed on those who received these calls. They may be very close to the individuals involved in Teresa's disappearance, even if not out right involved themselves.

[@onefeather2]

Small towns are scary, someone knows and must have known when they worked and the time they did.

[@sarahsmeadows390]

Baby Boo: Where do you feel is safe and not so scary?

[@momamae23]

I feel she would have left with who ever as long as my kids were gonna be safe. I’m like you Miss Martha the rings would be a signal that i don’t want them to take my rings.

[@theewisestforever7861]

My thoughts on the wedding rings under the couch... I believe well being robbed she my have put them under there in attempt to have them not stolen.. which brings me to the idea of it not being very violent (like she may have thought they would just take her stuff but not hurt her ) because otherwise the rings would be the last thing on her mind .. W/ her kids there ..which also makes me think she may have known them or invited over someone she thought was ok .. but then wasn’t

[@sfletch3042]

I agree with all of that!

[@boowill7509]

Agree. But I think tweakers looking for quick cash came in and robbed her then something went wrong and they made her come with them to get rid of her. Bc being a small town she would be able to identify them. They were too worried about getting their next fix and not this poor womans life.

[@tinakletter6754]

Great show love it It’s great that you do this

[@buckotte1414]

A girl's voice might have got the door open.

[@4Mr.Crowley2]

That part reminded of that horror movie The Strangers - they unscrew the lightbulb on the front porch.

[@sfletch3042]

Honestly the sad truth is that if someone looks non threatening most people will open the door.

[@SunnySingh-if4gp]

What did the pyschic say? Who was that last relative she talked to was this person investigated?

[@mts982]

who all wouldve had a key to the house? this is another example of all homes need security cameras at all times with many angles.

[@randygharrison8249]

Why play with or take the time to take a car stereo if your going to take a person makes no sense

[@GenXfrom75]

I pray her family gets the answers they seek and that Teresa can get the justice she deserves.

[@michaelkoszowski3716]

Good stuff ..👍...thankyou kind citizen !

[@abelinatownes8160]

Theresa locked the door behind her and broke the key on purpose to protect her kids ( ie, the kid appears couldn’t steal the key and get back in)

[@jae1-03]

Most likely the key was broke to disable the lock from the outside. They sell keys just for that. Reason why? Because he’s ransacking the house and doesn’t know if someone might show up. If they do, having a lock they can’t get their key in will surely slow them down, most likely will knock and he will here it. So it’s supposed to block the keyway from the outside but does not disable the function of the lock from inside. The ring was probably her attempt to quickly hide it from the guy robbing her house. If she’s by the couch, throw it under. Also, she’s not going to try and escape because her kids are upstairs and I’m sure he used that as a leverage point.

[@BrandonTharphorrortownusa]

This case was solved. She was using drugs and overdosed. Her drug buddy panicked made it look like a robbery and hide her body. He is in prison.

[@ashleyp287]

I'm curious to know if they ever even attempted to ask the children "Where did mommy go?"... I know they were young 2 & 4yrs old but I do feel like a 4yr old could at least tell u a lil something if they witnessed anything. Whats odd to me is they don't mention anything about if they did or didn't at least try to question the 4yr old. I just can't imagine the father coming home after work and finding his 2 children alone and his wife missing and not at the very least asking the kids "Where did mommy go?" It's odd that this isn't even mentioned at all. Those kids are potentially the only eye witnesses to what went on in that house that night.. I'd be curious to know what the kids or at least the 4yr old said when they questioned him about his mom. I feel like somebody in that family had to have asked those kids something...its just weird that don't mention this at all.

[@itallia666]

🇬🇧 Ive found that those who profess to having a brilliant relationships & go on & on about it are actually covering up for a not so perfect relationship & quite a few end up divorced pretty soon after their " perfect" partnership has been Declared to everyone. Id like to know how Theresa's husbands first marriage ended? Did he have an affair with Theresa at the time of his 1st marriage? Im not casting any wrongdoing on Theresas part but if she had an affair with her husband while he was married to wife 1, maybe she was having an affair with someone else? Its just odd that her wedding rings were found under her sofa As if she was there with someone else who told her to take her rings off. Same with the porch light off, admitting someone in & not wanting anyone to see who it was? Since her husband was on night shift she'd be clear to have someone over late evening. I know this is sounding bad on Theresas character but its just my own initial feelings on the case. The red flag was the overflowing comments to all of her perfect marriage etc. As i said its like the proverb Those who overguild the lily have something to hide. The most successful & loving relationships ive come across have no need to tell all & sundry that their marriage is fantastic & they adore their partner & gush over every detail. I think the items stolen were deliberately taken to send investigations down the wrong path. The same with the 2 unknown phone calls from Theresas phone I think 2 random numbers at a late hour were made to also TRY & throw off investigators & in my estimation a pretty dumb attempt, very unprofessional & not something a burgular would do! I don't know HOW L.E. failed to see through this bungled case! The husband wanted her out of the picture & engaged some stupid bozo's to do the job ( i like to know if the husband remarried not long after Theresa 's disappearance???) There is something not quite kosher in the husbands story & i think the ex wifes harassememt is an excuse! It may once have been an issue especially if Theresa had, had an affair while her husband was still with his 1st wife. She was bound to be angry with Theresa but after Theresa having 2 kids with her hubby i doubt wife #1 was still embittered. I think the harassement was overplayed & there is something not quite innocent about the husbands role Not that he was personally involved but got someone to do it & take whatever he wanted from the home. To have CONSTANTLY tried to call his wife during the evening & onwards & get no response but yet as soon as he leaves work he choses to have breakfast with his mother??? That sounds very wrong! You cant reach your wife after multiple calls & shes looking after your 2 young children but you delay going home? Have a leisurely breakfast with your mother ??? Uh huh! Dont buy it for 1 second! Thats my 10 pennysworth Regards 🇬🇧👧

[@francinelaurin520]

I wonder if it was customary for Theresa's spouse to call his wife at 11:00 pm and/or occasionally have breakfast with his mother? No scuffel ..perhaps she was obedient to protect her children..for sure a loving, nurturing mother does not walk out of her children's life ..not much info shared with public..perhaps one or two mentions of clues would have jogged someone's memory or conscience ..the ex wife?..I think a neglected avenue ..not physically but having sent misinformed teens to rob the home..who would be enticed by small electronics..being told noone was home ..I have a feeling about ex-wife/Dale conspiracy? ..My deepest sympathy to her beloved family ..courage..😥 ..moi canada 🇨🇦

[@Cherry_Bl0ss0m24e4]

I graduated high school with her son and was friends with him we where in school when they found the 2019 break in the case it was so sad to see my friend have so much hurt

[@miekhelavlenzo1819]

Sounds like a 2 ppl job.

[@burpolicious]

I thought the same. It crosses my mind that the Dale and the exwife may have resumed their relationship. Perhaps Exwife's hubby filed for divorce because he knew? Maybe exwife thought if Teresa was out of the way, they could turn back the clock. Dale might have asssited her after the fact, then covered due to his involvement.

[@eddyshin1]

If its a PlayStation 3 or 4 they can check his email if he register an acc with sony. If can be trace via the mac address den...

[@twf2000]

eddy shinoda This was 2006, so it’s definitely not a PS4. I’m not sure when the PS3 came out but I think that’s too early even for one of them. Most likely, this was a PS2.

[@artemismoon1083]

I have a hard time believing she was a druggie. The rings were definitely a clue that she was in danger.

[@JC-11111]

Yea that dude killed her and stole that stuff. That's the most logical answer, IMO. He may have been banging meth but I doubt she was.

[@SpicyTexan64]

Why call her husband's job an "overnight" shift. It's a night shift. And you refer to it as " helping the family make ends meet" as if she's the main source of income. I highly doubt it.

[@amandajlemen]

I guess I understand the suspicion about him not calling...but when we thought my son was missing, I went straight to looking, like hiking the property looking for any signs of him, and my husband did the same, then hopped in the car to drive the roads around the house. I yelled back to my brother to call 911, I was already running out the door and didn't think to grab my phone. I knew 911 needed to be called but I felt like actually searching for my baby, like feet on the ground searching asap was my job, anybody could call 911 as long as it got done. I don't think it's that suspicious...I mean if a day has gone by and no one else has called, or you don't know someone else is going to call, that's one thing. But I think the immediate response when someone you love is missing, is to go get them. Like you have to get to them, have to find them, that's all you can focus on.

[@kristi4113]

I don’t know if there have been updates to this case…but how old was the stepson when she disappeared? The key thing grabs my attention, because who else MIGHT have a key but him. If he was older, teenaged, he would know about the small electronics. He would know she was there alone. She WOULD open the door to him. And if he was older, he might have blamed her for his parents not being together, especially if his mother was upset about her divorce to his stepfather. He also might have had zero empathy about leaving his two little brothers alone in the house if he didn’t like them anyways.

[@katrinarose72]

Sad the guy who killed her only got 10 years for manslaughter! 😡

[@rockstarofredondo]

Similarities to Springfield 3.

[@reddravenn]

rockstarofredondo I thought that because of the light although their porch light was broken. This case has been solved though

[@ronniewall1481]

No matter what you do some one will think it means something that has nothing to do with anything.

[@teed7160]

Hope a new one is on the way plzzzzz 😀

[@TraceEvidencePodcast]

Tee D my holiday break is ending. New ones are coming.

[@teed7160]

Trace Evidence Podcast thanks looking forward to it! Hope you had a great break. Would you consider doing one on Madeleine McCann ? There is the official story and a million other theories many plausible some not so. I trust you will be able to sift through it all and perhaps come to some conclusions even though still speculative.😊

[@caveycavemartinez1203]

Do you think she was cheating on him? That explains why the ring was off.

[@spleengrrrl]

Like someone said already in the comments, the lack of a struggle could have been due to a threat to the children. It's terrifying, honestly, to be a mother home alone. It's possible it was the ex-wife. I could not find anything about her older stepson, how old was he? Could he have hated his stepmom because he wanted his parents together? Or, was he a drug addict and he's the one who committed the robbery? If it was the ex-wife, that could be why the rings were chucked under the couch, like it was symbolic.

[@Beckett4631-s4c]

I know you like lesser known cases, but please please do the ?Madiline Mcann case

[@christaguariglia3241]

Also...the victim and the people the calls were made to were all in the same county and criminals...often those who commit robberies...usually follow a track in the surrounding area closest to them before spreading out

[@Goddess7774]

Pretty odd how Dale can't get a hold of his wife during his shift, decided to go out to breakfast with his mother the next morning. Her leaving her wedding rings could have been a sign that her husband did it. Yeah I'm going with him either directly or indirectly did it!

[@goldstar846]

breakfast with his mother was prearranged.

[@sfletch3042]

@@goldstar846 that doesn't mean anything. He could have very well prearranged the breakfast for the very reason that he planned to kill her.