Track & Field 8 Finger Technique

Track & Field 8 Finger Technique

[@leucurus5057]

honestly sounds like a machine gun on full auto lol

[@FlyHec]

That's EXACTLY why I have a machine gun emote that says RA-KA-TA-TA! on Twitch 😅

[@leucurus5057]

@@FlyHec fair enough XD

[@FlyHec]

Surprisingly, I was a natural! I saw someone do it and I was able to do it immidiately. This is my best technique for the arcade. My NES version is still a secret. The judges at Twin Galaxies are the only ones who have seen it.

[@Kamoto__]

Took 13 years later for the tetris community to find your secret NES rolling technique. You're a legend.

[@Benscard]

My man

[@gigabiteEXE]

I know this was posted 13 years ago but thanks for sharing this technique! An hour of practicing this on my own made it very clear how much dexterity is being shown in this video, and it's crazily impressive. I'll keep chipping away at this until I can reach that golden 32 per second, thank you again

[@FlyHec]

Haha. Slow your roll. A game running at 60fps can only register 30Hz pressing unless it takes inputs from more than 1 button, like Hyper Sports. I've done 35+ on that with double finger taps on each button.

[@gigabiteEXE]

Roger, I will keep that in mind as I practice

[@Benscard]

@@gigabiteEXE how are you doing?

[@Enl1gtend]

@@Benscard smoother but still not smooth

[@NorthAveBeachBum]

Nice. I remember people used to wedge a comb between their fingers back at the arcades back when this was actually still out. This definitely is much faster than that.

[@gromburt]

What a mesmerising motion. Satisfying sound, too. Good demonstration!

[@theazerothtourist]

my girlfriend sent me here.. wonder why?!

[@EvExplainer2010]

1:33 it sounds like a motorcycle starting up and driving. lol

[@driftliketokyo34ftw35]

Sounds like a bunch of air powered staplers going off.

[@Nosedruul]

Wow! Nicely done, man!

[@PascalClarysse]

ohhhh, Street Fighter 15th Anniversary Stick!! I was at NubyTech when we made that bad boy :-) Probably my favorite piece out of all the hardware products we made! Heck yeah. Only 10.000 pcs in the World btw. You, my man have taste. (on top of skills)

[@bigtorque]

wow im impressed ! great technique

[@goindown]

this is INSANE how does a human do this its absolutely fuckin' crazy!

[@sugden5]

your my hero. Senpai thanks for the lesson.

[@Frezyman]

wow man! amasing!! Im so damn impressed!!

[@KusanagiMotoko100]

This is cool man, I'm watching this to see if I can apply this technique to street fighter 6, but it's easier for me to start with the pinky.

[@FlyHec]

Pinky first is how all other players that I know of play Track & Field. I've been told that I do it wrong. Then I remind them that I have the world record. 😊

[@miwiki6]

woah... that's so cool!

[@iammrberserker6068]

impressive technique bro, ive showed loads of my friends you playing TNF

[@FlyHec]

Thanks man!

[@Keegan-T]

13 years later this is still cool

[@FlyHec]

That's why I postedidid it back then. 🤓

[@hotmama54]

Okay Keegan

[@FlyHec]

I've seen it done starting with the pinky first, if thats what you're talking about. Infact, the fastest Track & Field player in the world goes pinky, ring, midle, index. Well actually, he goes in that direction, but he only uses 3 fingers on each hand. I'm not sure if he starts pinky first or ring finger.

[@mcphail49]

Freaky, and kind of hypnotic. Woo hoo Gameface.

[@sidvic1ous]

Remebering track and field on ps1, where it asks if you are using cheat...funny, but then thats a point on how fast it can go. Great scores Hector.

[@sammybmusic]

It's like you're a Track & Field expert or something.

[@brunch8051]

He is

[@PeterJavi]

Funnily enough this proved (5-1 modified) viable on an NES controller for at least NTSC-C Tetris.

[@FlyHec]

I did this way back in the 80s on NES but I prefer my claw technique on the NES controller. Not as fast(26+/second) but only takes one hand.

[@PeterJavi]

@@FlyHec Aha, that makes sense. I mentioned this because NES Tetris has had a revival in recent years and some players have adapted a method called hypertapping to beat the ARR of the game. One of the methods used is adapted from this exact video (aptly named flyhec). So what other games would benefit from the methods you're demonstrating here, besides track and field and Tetris?

[@FlyHec]

@@PeterJavi I know it's been used in speedruns on some RPGs to mash through long text sequences. It was also the only way to get through a level someone made on Super Mario Maker 2 . Level also had my name in it and I was the only one to pass it. I didn't know there were top Tetris players using it. That's awesome! You got any links to some references?

[@PeterJavi]

@@FlyHec Right now this person is the most prominent person adapting the style of play, mainly to play the game consistently past level 29: kzbin.info/www/bejne/o2PTfnVpm56Faqc www.twitch.tv/cheez_fish/v/843394771?sr=a There are a few other people using this style of play but I don't have references for it. Now in the scene of NES Tetris, the Classic Tetris World Championship just ended where the winner of the entire event, as well as most players in the top 8 used one type of hypertapping or the other to play the game: m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/mqWvgoJ_rMmdjpY

[@radicalmacaroni2645]

@@FlyHec How does your claw technique for NES work?

[@FlyHec]

I like the feel of this stick better than arcade controls since I can rest my hands on the panel. On arcade cabs my hands and wrists would be on the edge or at a bad angle. Not sure if the buttons can handle 30+ hits per second though. But only 10k made? This one will be well taken care of. Still in original box right now.

[@TIGERSDFW]

that kinx of dexterity and a 500 pound bench press? outstanding

[@FlyHec]

it's a necessary survival skill to be a dork in my neighborhood. hehe.

[@FlyHec]

@fromundaphil Yeah, I have hairy hands. But why would I need to shave them? I use conditioner so the hair wont tangle and its silky smooth too.

[@PSXMicha]

great job. but how do you press the action button? i mean, jump, throw the hammer, etc etc

[@FlyHec]

With both thumbs I got 6.60 on the ps1. I was showing good tactics for NES and Arcade versions with the 8 finger.

Mis respetos Fly 👏🏻👏🏻 Verás: A finales de 1987 en San Sebastián de los Reyes, Madrid 🇪🇸 jugué al Hyper Olimpic (Track& Field) en una cabina arcade que tenía como récord del mundo delos 110m vallas 3 ó 4 sgs (no recuerdo exactamente) y estoy cadi seguro que tenía FLY en las iniciales de ese récord. Es posible que fuera una cabina traída de USA que hubieras usado tú y dejado ese récord? Jugaste siempre usando esta técnica? Desde cuándo juegas a esta arcade? Gracias y un saludo desde España

[@FlyHec]

It's very possible that a PCB I played on traveled around the world. I used to play every machine I saw in many cities. I also did this hurdle cheat to leave my initials on many machines. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fWPTd4adjdGFfrMfeature=shared

Vi ese truco el otro día y precisamente por eso te he escrito: He comprendido que ese récord fue tuyo. Eres una leyenda Fly. Gracias por explicar estos trucos. Yo era un niño en 1987 y todavía me acuerdo de muchos detalles de estas maravillosas maquinitas. Me gustaría poder hablar contigo algún día. Si quieres ponte en contacto conmigo vía discogs o dime email o similar. Muchas gracias FLY

[@Greg_Ulmer]

Is the motion more of rolling your fingers across the button or dragging them? I mean, is it mostly in the wrist or fingers?

[@kernzyp]

@FlyHec dude, you have some good comebacks to the insults!!! lol!! what controller are you using, and where do i gey one?? damn fast!!!

[@FlyHec]

I have a video of a buddy of mine doing the Hurdles on Track & Field in the arcade. He's kinda hard to contact, but as soon as he says it's cool, I'll post the video.

[@hostonyoutube]

GOAT

[@WalX32]

@FlyHec gameface is a britsh gaming tv show and the presenter briefly mentioned your video, and i must say im quite impressed

[@b3neaththestarlight299]

Hey, does anybody know if playing piano helps if I wanna master this technique? I play NES Tetris and this technique is getting very popular in the community. At the moment, I do not own a controller yet, so I thought I'll practice using piano first.

[@FlyHec]

I would say it helps but it's far from what's needed to master it. That would take an actual NES controller and any game/way to measure your inputs. But don't underestimate the amount of help it CAN do. I had a little time on bass and accordion before I learned it. I'm certain it helped. Might explain why I was able to do what I did here in the video on my very first try when I was about 13.

[@33Pokenerd]

piano rolling imo feels a loy more different than a console roll tbh

[@LTDANMAN44]

THIS IS LIKE THE KNIFE TRICK BISHOP DOES IN ALIENS

[@FlyHec]

HAHA! I loved that scene as a kid and learned how to do that very well.

[@Jem7Vellz]

Music to my ears.. Stay calm and hit buttons.

[@aggydo1]

would love to try this on julia hardy

[@aciddimensions]

How many hours have you spent honing that technique over your lifetime? When going at full speed, it really seems crazy! And you say you have an even better technique? I wasn't actually familiar with T&F , so this video impresses me a lot more than the gameplay vid.

[@hobofuture]

@FlyHec this vid was mentioned on a tv program called Gameface

[@ruc1f3r]

Shout out on gameface!! Anyway, that's an awesome technique, would love to see your 100m sprint times? Must be ermmm...quite fast huh?

[@mcphail49]

@FlyHec Gameface is a video game review show in the UK hosted by Julia Hardy. She mentioned this video on the show.

[@kimokata]

Holy crap! You have hairy hands lol. But anyway. Thats awesome. Really awesome. You have no idea how impressed i am. And thats no sarcasm.

[@mcphail49]

@KingDWPython1 Whit day ye mean "not like that" (arms crossed, tapping my foot) whit are ye tryin' tae say?

[@FlyHec]

I didnt when I made this video, but now I do!

[@FlyHec]

@mcphail49 Whta's this Gameface? I did a couple of web searches and too much crap came up for me to narrow it down.

[@TheSimontoms]

@FlyHec its a UK TV show reviewing computer games. the presenter said to check out this video.

[@pudsrus]

Some girl will be well pleased with the speed of those fingers one day

[@McDADDyK]

@FlyHec Gameface is a show i think in USA too but in the UK which reviews game which are release and are goin to be released. An the host on there some how kew about this video and said that we should check it out oddly enough she was talking about Thor the game button mashing

[@rabidowski]

Now try this technique on an original T&F with the original buttons (the ones that had a raised shield around the back half) ;-)

[@almightyapollo]

you are godlike

[@RealDovamo]

I used to like hold the controller upside down with the wire between my middle and ring finger and i'd use my thumb on the other hand, idk i cant explain it

[@pandelson]

amazing

[@walls_of_skulls6061]

This works on women too

[@StarLordTv13]

I came from Summuning salt!!!!!!

[@FlyHec]

Cool! Thanks for chiming in. I've got plenty of other mashing techniques and videos. Poke around.

[@StarLordTv13]

Thanks for replying this is actually insane though

Hola FLY, una duda sobre el funcionamiento de este juego: Tú pulsas con ambas manos y 8 dedos sobre el mismo botón, pero se supone que sería mejor y más rápido pulsar alternativamente sobre los 2 botones de RUN o no es así? Es decir que si en vez de usar sólo 1 botón usases los 2 botones y de forma alternativa con la técnica de balanceo sería mayor a velocidad no? Es por esto que hacer el truco del lápiz es más rápido que tu técnica de 8 dedos? Muchas gracias por tu ayuda

[@FlyHec]

Yes. Alternating is faster. Even when it's 4 on the right button followed by 4 on the left. I have issues staying in a good rhythm when I use both buttons. I end up pressing both buttons at the same time. When I use one I can't press with the other hand until the the first hand moves out of the way. This keeps me in good rhythm. Sad but true. I could be faster.

Perfecto FLY. Era por estar seguro de que el funcionamiento del juego era exactamente así. Muchas gracias por tu explicación. Por último quería comentarte que he leído hace poco que Konami, allá por el año 84 ó por ahí, al detectar que la gente estaba haciendo el truco del lápiz, modificó el juego para que no fuera posible ir tan rápido pero entonces eso significa (o es lo que yo entiendo) que sólo se tenían en cuenta las pulsaciones en uno de los 2 botones de RUN. Te suena todo esto?

[@FlyHec]

I didn't know that they made changes other than button guards and the Track Ball version. The track ball just made it easier.

Vale, entendido. Entonces no modificaron el juego si no que pusieron buttons guards (que era algo físico y no una modificación del software). Lo había entendido mal. Muchísimas gracias por explicármelo y tan bien todo 👏🏻👏🏻 Un abrazo fuerte Héctor

[@opal_2476]

hi man, i adore this technique but do you think it could have any application on keyboard? i think keys like spacebar ctrl or alt would make the most sense. I'm a hollow knight speedrunner and I'm really looking forward to improving my menu times with this technique

[@FlyHec]

I've done it on a keyboard before. The speeds you get are dependent on your keys switches and mechanics. But even in cheap keyboards, it's good for over 20hz. Good luck and I'd like to hear if it ends up helping your runs! For real, keep me posted.

[@opal_2476]

thanks for replying, I'm sure I won't be able to implement this instantly but after a lot of practice i hope it works out well :)

[@opal_2476]

​@@FlyHec so after some learning I'm barely able to do the cycle with my fingers, I'm really not used to this type of motion, it's gonna take a long while to master this. also i sattled with spacebar as it seems most convenient

[@opal_2476]

@@FlyHec ok, a lot of practice later i think im getting good :D kzbin.info/www/bejne/b2fVpo2jh9ejg7s

[@FlyHec]

Hey everyone, go check out Opals rolling proggress in their link! ​@@opal_2476

[@BowlingFreak218]

thast amazing

[@heyithappens]

@FlyHec Gameface is a British Gaming show, last night it recomended viewers to read the top comment on this video. It shows on the channel Challenge.

[@atari_hmb]

Question I heard you average 32 cps per second. Do you think at your best can you get 64 cps? Just curious.

[@FlyHec]

Never tried since there are limitations on the buttons and systems registering that fast. But I know for sure I can cleanly do 40 just my reviewing some old vids

[@SirTonk]

Whoa

[@Cercatore]

oh great...

[@KnightsDisillusion]

I can't believe what i just saw.

[@wardyboy26]

i innocently stumbled across this, he made a whole vid about it...

[@FlyHec]

How do you know that? All I'm showing here is my technique on the arcade version of the game. I dont think I've ever even plugged that controller into my PS1 or PS2.

[@PVCLime]

try to play the track & field for the playstation =) then you wont have to use that tecnique ;) the one you use reminds me of druming tecniques ^^;

[@basicallyiliketodosomestuf9641]

Holy shit

[@SK1NZfan4Eva]

holy shit

[@ORIGINALGAMESONLY]

fly hec is still king of speed track n field and hypersports

[@TOOHUMAN112]

GameFace!

[@NOTOR1OUSTEBE]

@n64dude94 Yes...made me laugh for quite a bit haha

[@nfelvis68]

At least I now know your records weren't done on a regular ps2 controller.

[@bigbeardedbeastcollector9404]

Can you bench 500?

[@FlyHec]

12 years ago I could.

[@robbie4242]

Personally, I used the "pencil trick"

[@Legitslostlegend]

so thats how you do it. I knew you weren't faking

[@FlyHec]

The game has been picked apart in MAME and times like that are not possible. Did you mean 7.79?

[@ecurbdnyl]

Jesus dude

[@wingnut4427]

nice technique ! Don't mind all these haters.. they are just jealous because they can't do it. lol

[@InnocentDrifter]

you just rub the top of a button with a pencil or pen alternating back and forth.

[@PotatoJedi]

lol Gameface made your video famous.

[@riverbandit58]

@rabidowski

[@NOTOR1OUSTEBE]

Came here after watching Gameface on Challenge :P

[@user-eh1gy2kn4q]

the sf4 one framer hate this guy

[@McDADDyK]

Gameface brought me

[@TM-knight]

i wouldnt be surprised if this technique has been translated into the sexual stimulation arena

[@ArjunTheRageGuy]

Can't wait for a computer mouse version of this.

[@brunch8051]

GODBRIDGE WITH 8 FINGER TECHNIQUE? (not clickbait)

[@nickthethick7502]

minecraft PVP has many techniques

[@ArjunTheRageGuy]

@@nickthethick7502 I hope one of them doesn't involve something like scroll click and autoclick. I mean, I tried doing butterfly clicking on a CPS test, but my mouse can't deal with 2 clicks for some reason and just 1 click from every 2 fingers switching from 1 finger to click to another, so I just sticked to jitter clicking instead or that two-thumb method in a gamecube controller but on a mouse this time.

[@ArjunTheRageGuy]

@@brunch8051 during the clicking to godbridge: *Just 1 click each time the 8 finger technique is done*

[@mcphail49]

@KingDWPython1 Ahh, now i see. Okay i dont really but i want to. Cause i have a dream, a dream that all gamers around the world will unite and blah blah blah. Woo Hoo Gameface.

[@paindawson5665]

i start from pinky ring middile then index im used to if fo 25 years still play and get 6.79 true

[@FlyHec]

@lestap2008 whats gay about "fuck"?

[@wardyboy26]

omg.......get out more.............omg.........

[@TheTomik7]

Kto po materiale tvgry ? xD

[@nerkulec]

ja po aGameScout ale TV gry też zobacze xD

[@MinistryOfEpicness]

poor button

[@Simracer1990]

@wardyboy26 hypocrite

[@WalX32]

@FlyHec gameface is a britsh gaming tv show, the presenter briefly mentioned your video, and i must say im quite impressed

[@WalX32]

@FlyHec gameface is a britsh gaming tv show, the presenter briefly mentioned your video, and i must say im quite impressed