Apologies from the third bike.. i really hope the marshal is ok 😢 none of us ever want to hit a marshal
@orangecowboy9549 Жыл бұрын
Katrina. can confirm he is okay just walking wounded
@ukmotorsportcrashes4203 Жыл бұрын
Sadly it's Motorsport and the marshal put himself in danger by not reliasing other bikes were crashing at the same time. Glad the marshal was ok as that's the main thing just hope this can be avoided in future
@Jasongilliar Жыл бұрын
@@ukmotorsportcrashes4203 idk but somehow thats a dick answere, i mean. The marshalls dont do anything on there own. At leats in formula one. And to say Something like that to a marshall and a friend of that guy idk man. You blame him. Why? So i could be wrong, but idk. I just have something against that answere, but i get offended quickly right now so it could be that im just stupid
@ukmotorsportcrashes4203 Жыл бұрын
@@Jasongilliar everyone has an opinion mate and you've got offended about it which is fair enough! In my opinion the marshal should have been a little more aware of his surroundings and usually there's more marshals to help with that. For some reason there wasn't many marshal's plus yellow flags in wrong places. There's alot of wrong to happen to cause this. I blame the marshal and don't because they have a job to do just needed to be more aware of other bikes possibly crashing is the only thing I find his fault which in the moment is really hard so I don't disrespect the marshal in this crash but yeah alot could have been better to prevent this 👍
@Jasongilliar Жыл бұрын
@@ukmotorsportcrashes4203 yeah man there youre right, and i didnt mean to insult you if i did, just didnt know how to tell it in proper english because im from germany, so if i did sorry, just wanted to say that again because i didnt knew how i could tell it in the first text i wrote, but yeah the thing is we dont know what they where really doing, we see the Video and than tell something, but they see it in pov and need to look that every driver is okay, and for its easy to say from the outside. And we dont know what the people there was thinking, but yeah it could be better. But were all human so yeah. But i respect your opinion for sure
@br5380 Жыл бұрын
If you're in the gravel trap, whether a fallen rider or a marshal, remember - look to where the traffic is coming from AND don't walk to the fence with your back to traffic.
@iaindawson8914 Жыл бұрын
The last camera shot would have been enough
@Skyemansthoughts Жыл бұрын
Yip. My thoughts exactly. Considering the other footage didn't show anything really.
@tanjo4 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for giving us all those angles, really enhanced the video 👍🏼
@NathanM4A1 Жыл бұрын
Never turn your back to oncoming traffic.
@tvdinner325 Жыл бұрын
He did job to go between the bike and the marshal. He barely clipped his ankle. Not easy to do on wet gravel.
@nascage Жыл бұрын
Glad everyone was ok, and thank goodness 2 out of 3 of you properly know how to shoot a video.
@robertgallacher7214 Жыл бұрын
Glad everyone ok, marshals have a hard job at the best of times, even more so in the wet.
@adamelwood3713 Жыл бұрын
He’s always got the other leg!! 🤣 I know the Marshall he’s an old neighbour!! And a good bloke that loves the job that he doesn’t get paid for and always at risk!! 👏👏
@HuskyKyurem Жыл бұрын
Why did the Marshall went out without waiting for a yellow flag?
@AndrewLewer90 Жыл бұрын
For me, it's the lack of safety. No double waved flags and marshals on the outside of a turn when bikes are still racing. Add treacherous conditions, making the track really hard to navigate, and it's a miracle nobody got hurt.
@andrewfincher4435 Жыл бұрын
He wasn't looking and was bang in the firing line, Don't make it worse. Hope all are ok. Marshals...Rule number one Get them waving yellows out big style . Rule number 2 Look and keep blooy looking, Riders first fuck the bikes until its safe....Look Look Look always. Don't be afraid of using the bike your retrieving as a barrier as last line of protection, get behind it.....LOOKING !
@edwardharris9810 Жыл бұрын
I worked as a marshal on a short oval where the racing is much more chaotic an imo they shouldn't have gone running out next to a live raceway like that we all want to help but rule no1 keep yourself safe, also race control should have noticed there was oils down and neutralised the race before marshals came over the fence. I know it's more difficult with bikes as riders are laying in track and instinctively you want to run to there aid but if you don't protect yourself then you could end up with multiple injured people
@martinkeene Жыл бұрын
As a current marshal there is no way I'd be going trackside in conditions like that with all those bikes coming at me
@nemastau Жыл бұрын
I was expecting another angle, like sister's or mom's. Disappointed. hope the marshal is ok!
@ukmotorsportcrashes4203 Жыл бұрын
Sadly that would never happen as no one else in my family is interested in racing 😭
@kieranbrain3733 Жыл бұрын
There shouldn't have been a marshal there,they should wait till its clear.hope hes ok,but he shouldn't have been in that position.
@Bumbaclot213 Жыл бұрын
I was at Brand’s earlier this evening and 3 people crashed out on the same corner as seen here
@karpkatcher1070 Жыл бұрын
The rider seemed to gain a small amount of control and steer the bike between the fallen rider and marshal, but there just wasn't enough room.
@Norton1531 Жыл бұрын
I’m glad you warned me. That was petrifying!
@ukmotorsportcrashes4203 Жыл бұрын
Never want to see someone get hit by a motorcycle so I put a warning out for it 👍
@matt0508 Жыл бұрын
I think he's joking 😂
@ukmotorsportcrashes4203 Жыл бұрын
@@matt0508 Ima take it as he wasn't :)
@bonkeydollocks1879 Жыл бұрын
Only becomes apparent on dad's POV
@frombrum Жыл бұрын
that's a live track with no yellow flags that i can see i follow motor racing rather than bikes but for cars those marshalls should not be in the gravel until the flags are out and then with a person responsible for traffic watch glad that nobody was hurt badly
@orangecowboy9549 Жыл бұрын
Actually the marshal was injured but walking wounded, I. was on that corner as one of the Marshals
@katjames Жыл бұрын
I was told in the medical center the marshal was okay 😑
@orangecowboy9549 Жыл бұрын
@@katjames Yes. he was okay. but. limping tried to brave the rest of the. day. but went home mid afternoon I was the guy talking to you.
@deanratcliff522 Жыл бұрын
Big thanks to the Marshalls at Clearways for picking me and the bike up on Sunday morning practice ❤
@misterpacha1 Жыл бұрын
@@orangecowboy9549wow what a crazy coincidence. Glad he was good.
@manxhornet Жыл бұрын
As someone who’s marshaled for over 30 years from the 1980s to 2015, all over the UK and IOM this is why I never turned my back to the track. It can happen in the blink of an eye. I’ve almost seen my Dad be wiped out by a bike while marshaling at Brands Hatch. Lucky my sister stopped him from stepping out from behind the tyre wall. So glad to see that marshal was ok. It’s bloody scary at times.
@paulmaxey6377 Жыл бұрын
Luckily it looked more a glancing blow, would have been a lot worse if it was full on. I don't know the actual training of the marshals but I would have thought they would be trained never to turn their back on any oncoming traffic. At least have a marshal looking that way who can warn any marshals if another bike is crashing towards them. Accidents happen but it does appear this was avoidable. Glad the marshal is ok though and I am by no means demeaning or criticizing him, just maybe something to learn by so it doesn't happen again. We have to remember all the marshals do it for free and on their own time, sometimes having to have days off work to attend these meetings.
@freemenofengland2880 Жыл бұрын
Why not get in to "Marshall Training" Paul? - I'm sure they could all benefit from your wise advice....
@paulmaxey6377 Жыл бұрын
@@freemenofengland2880 It is just common sense, never turn your back on a danger. Or at least have someone watching your back. That is just common sense 101. Sorry if you are too dumb to have any.
@prossbrown4866 Жыл бұрын
I don't move til all are passed
@br5380 Жыл бұрын
and how many times do you see riders walking to the fence while not watching back either?
@pmay222 Жыл бұрын
you only bin when your winning..... a wet brands after along dry spell is lethal... i also think previous meetings the gunk comes up when the water seeps in... and its like ice especially at clearways for some reason
@paullacey2999 Жыл бұрын
Glad everyones fine.👍👍👍
@markfiges999 Жыл бұрын
I had the same sort of thing 50 years ago at Graham hill bend - including one very very near miss from a certain Italian MV star - who ignored a yellow flag, ........... and didn't even apologise!
@ukmotorsportcrashes4203 Жыл бұрын
Some riders are very arrogant when they are in the wrong but glad he did miss you in the end!
@Penguin_of_Death Жыл бұрын
What the hell were those marshals thinking?
@deanratcliff522 Жыл бұрын
Hi I had an off in exactly the same spot on the Sunday morning Pre Injection warm up looking at the footage potentially something on track. Did you capture any other high-sides Sunday morning out of Clearways?
@ukmotorsportcrashes4203 Жыл бұрын
I captured a few crashes. Check out the other video to see if yours is there as I will have no idea! I didn't record any warm up crashes as was at t1!
@kieroncraig3594 Жыл бұрын
i don't see a single yellow flag could've easily been avoided with some better race direction
@safebadgergaming6874 Жыл бұрын
Look at the first angle and the yellows are out on the right hand side. And in the background at the entrance to the corner
@JoshT044 Жыл бұрын
There were yellows, LED board was even showing double yellow I think
@Jeff_gamjng21Ай бұрын
Hey, I am doing a Masters thesis in Motorsport Engineering. I am designing a system that can automatically detect marshal's on the track (and also stopped cars/bikes) which can then alert race control and the bikes/cars on the track to prevent fatal accidents. This is a great example of why such a system is necessary, just wondering if it is okay to use it in my thesis ? I will reference you
@ukmotorsportcrashes420310 күн бұрын
Hi 👋 that's fine! Feel free to use this video as help. I have only just seen your comment!
@jaymendes Жыл бұрын
Thats why you dont walk into a live track.
@easyweaver9691 Жыл бұрын
Interesting very well controlled by the ryder having to keep it tight there to avoid bike and bloke lol he avoided the bike but yer not so much ahh
@ukmotorsportcrashes4203 Жыл бұрын
Just a unlucky situation to be in for both partys but both were and are now ok!
@ianbbb14 ай бұрын
I was always told by my mentor to always always always watch out for additional bikes falling and coming towards you at all times. I have no sympathy towards this individual as he turned his back on the circuit traffic breaking all the rules a marshal has ever been taught! This guy needs to be removed and re-trained. You would never turn your back on race traffic at the exit of Clearways at Brands Hatch
@nanta27810 ай бұрын
many things went wrong there
@deandee8082 Жыл бұрын
he would have gotten hit had the rider not threaded the needle, misset the tire of the bike and the marshal, maybe room for a gnats ass between em.. good riding that was
@bubbyplushngames Жыл бұрын
Poor toes
@gavinhill4121 Жыл бұрын
Poorly trained Marshalls.just needed to wait 20 seconds.
@vinman3057 Жыл бұрын
Give that marshall an eye test.....jesus
@kartdriver92 Жыл бұрын
That was close but shouldn't hit him, or at least it went on his feet. If the bike really hitted him he would been twisting and fall, for sure on that speed. But was his bad, one fondamental rule is ALWAYS face traffic, specially on track side marshaling, cus anyone can come any second. Hillclimbs and Rallyes are less common cus of the distance of 1 min or 30 sec between cars so ya have a small window, but track side is hell.
@michaelscurr9046 Жыл бұрын
Nicked him ouch
@misiopuchatek152 Жыл бұрын
There should be immediate yellow flag. Crash on the fast corner exit during wet race without yellow flag is unacceptable! Marshals aside, which can not be there immediately, but there are always bikers and bikes lying around. Crazy stuff…
@russiancommy Жыл бұрын
they need more training, we have so many accidents from just marshals running around like chickens without heads
@iw57225 ай бұрын
All crashed to the beginning on same place!
@-UrbanSurvivor Жыл бұрын
had all three of you had a falling out or something, strange to have family and friends so spaced apart, bad start to the day?
@ukmotorsportcrashes4203 Жыл бұрын
😂😂 we all just wanted different angles of the corner to see the lean angle! In this case it worked out pretty well having dad on that side of the track!
@-UrbanSurvivor Жыл бұрын
@@ukmotorsportcrashes4203 worked out perfect, especially for your old man
@getl0st Жыл бұрын
The Marshal is an Idiot for looking at the Stationary Motorbike on the Ground instead of the High Speed Motorbikes driving towards him, ZERO Situational Awareness...
@TeamDriftEVO Жыл бұрын
dont look at all like he was hit - more like he lost his balance
@jarkkosorsa6000 Жыл бұрын
Big Accident🤣
@marktucker208 Жыл бұрын
They should shut this track down. It’s too dangerous
@ukmotorsportcrashes4203 Жыл бұрын
Life's too dangerous! You can't shut things down because it's risky or scary. This is a hobby to most and you wouldn't want to see it go! The racing this track brings is awesome plus everyone loves the place. It deserves a spot in this world! Just hopefully we see less spills
@etherealaim Жыл бұрын
@@ukmotorsportcrashes4203 while i agree, brands hatch needs some serious safety changed. in the last 5 years EIGHTEEN cars have had crashes which resulted in them leaving the track, including 1 fatality. the barriers are very outdated, and need to be updated. also, while not in the last 5 years, in 2012 there was a crash in which 2 cars left the track, one striking a marshal post and one going over the wall, through the fence, through the spectator area, and into the carpark. these 20+ accidents would be understandable if they were rare occurrences, but it is far to common to just be a coincidence. its only a matter of time before another disaster.
@chrispop99 Жыл бұрын
@@etherealaim You need to balance the number of accidents against the amount that Brands get used. It must be the busiest circuit in the UK by far. Just FYI, it has the best medical facilities after Silverstone.
@etherealaim Жыл бұрын
@Drughal im sorry but you are wrong. business of a track has very little impact on a fact like this, and this isnt about driver safety, its about spectator and marshal safety. there is no defending this.
@etherealaim Жыл бұрын
@Drughal @Drughal yes, but that doesnt really factor in. if we were looking at normal crashes, it would, but cars going over the wall is a VERY rare occurrence. im doing research for a video, ive found about 200, everything from jimmy horton at talladega to some unknown driver in an unknown series in 1989 in argentina. of every track ive researched, brands hatch has BY FAR the most. even more than the nurburgring, which is a track that also employs the use of nearly exclusively guardrails and armco, and not only holds more racing, but also track days to the public all year round. think how many cars and races have happened throughout the existence of the nurburgring, now factor in the MILLIONS of people who have regulary driven it. even so, the numbers arent even close, despite the fact that they use very similar barriers. and, before you make the filming argument, nearly every track day over the last 10 years of nurburgring has been recorded by amateurs, and when comparing the nurburgring numbers (3 out of track crashes over the last 10 years, 1 fatality ((spectator)) compared to brands hatch (18 over the last 6 years, 1 fatality ((marshal)) the problem is very apparent. it really is undefendable, stop making excuses for lapses in safety which have resulted in tragedy and will likely result in even bigger tragedy if not changed. weve had cars enter spectator zones at brands hatch before, now imagine if some of thoses cars hit crowded places, or grandstands. its undefendable, so stop trying to defend it.
@richardlong6097 Жыл бұрын
This is unacceptable in every way. I get its not a top end series but that's crazy. Not to mention the skill set of the riders being where they shouldn't be on a bike in the pits when it's wet. The level of unavoidable danger in motorsports is far to high to have tracks allowing activities like this.
@apexkilla Жыл бұрын
Where was the “scary” part??
@jenkoalpha67 Жыл бұрын
@mickeyfinn80 isn't the 2nd bike u?
@familymendes148 Жыл бұрын
Rec horizontal
@ukmotorsportcrashes4203 Жыл бұрын
It mainly was horizontal 👍 just my cousin's pov was not because they were recording for there insta or snap etc
@sebastianspalding5016 Жыл бұрын
lol barely grazed him
@ukmotorsportcrashes4203 Жыл бұрын
You wouldn't even want that while in gravel. Could have been alot worse but it's already bad as it is
@sponge115 Жыл бұрын
Looks like he missed
@ukmotorsportcrashes4203 Жыл бұрын
Sadly does hit the marshal but marshal was ok after going medical centre! Just ankle area must have taken a big wack with no real protection gear on