Tracks vs Tires, 8RX vs 8RT vs 8R -

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Border View Farms is a mid sized family farm that sits on the Ohio-Michigan border. We raise corn, soybeans, and wheat on a little over 3,000 acres.
My name is Nathan. I run this channel and farm with my dad, Mark and uncle, Phil. I started making these videos in the fall of 2019 as a way to help show what I do on a daily basis as a farmer. I get questions about how and why we do things on the farm frequently, even from my own family members, so to help explain things it's easier to just show you. I hope that I can address questions or concerns that you might have about farms and agriculture in general as well as dispel some of the common misconceptions.
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[@SteveMccarthyAus]

You will have to redo to intro video in the spring once you get the planter on the new 8RX Pretty amazing how something so large and so heavy can produce such low ground pressure. What did Jack think of it ?

[@doylemoeller8011]

You still have a pro box worth of seed, and all the weight if the planters center frame, sitting on 4 implement tires. You still have the same pinch rows as before. Plus the weight of the fertilizer tank that you pull behind the planter. I just don"t see how there will be that much difference in compaction when all said and done. But I'm wrong more than I'm right, nice looking tractor tho, one of the nicest Deere made, imho.

[@uhohspagettioh97531]

Hopefully not as much of a pile as 9rx

[@burranders3564]

My former father in law said in the 60s that teaching the Russians how to make nitrogen fertilizer would bite the usa in the butt boy was he right may he rest in peace

[@burranders3564]

Look at the natural gas charts for the last 20 years and you will see how much the farmers are getting hosed on nitrogen fertilizer now i was in the fertilizer industry for 35 years

[@Евгений-е8д6ю]

Half of that video is trash talking

[@joeschloss7342]

Well so I did the math and a 180 pound person with size 11 shoes puts down roughly 3.5 psi standing still

[@BRPFan]

I love the look of your 8 RX tractor, very cool! But now compare tracks to LSW tires. We have a huge tire shop here that sells a pile of LSW tires. Personally I really like the benefits of the LSW tires but to each there own. Thanks for the video!

[@brucebruhn3375]

One can use any type of justification to do or not to do what one desires.

[@StarrMan1961]

What’s the ground pressure that your tank behind the planter adds.

[@BorderViewFarms]

More than the tractor but it's in the same tracks/rows

[@rogerburkholder7524]

@@BorderViewFarms You need tracks on the planter and fert. cart.

[@anthonybanda8192]

We like tracks alot . We did a few tracks vs tires trials side by side in some fields. It took some convincing to get my father and uncle on board with tracks but the yield gain and less tillage sold them. When planting We seen better emergence on the pinch rows. In the fall on graincart we didn't hardly even leave a rut even in moist conditions. The ride quality is way better . Yes tracks are expensive but well worth it . We do alot of long term notill and it wouldn't be possible without tracks on our soils . We even run tracks on our combines. The benefits out weigh the downfalls . The tires guys will argue the opposite all day but for us tracks are the only way. Great video keep up the good work!

[@Oliver-kv2mm]

That was very interesting, thank you.

[@michaelking5764]

Because you and your family work hard you have recently showed us a new pickup truck,new combine,new home,new shop,new 4 track tractor(which is a beast),and many other things I'm sure. See if you work for it you can get nice things instead of having them being given to you!🇺🇲🇺🇲🚜🚜👍

[@tangerineunicorn793]

I got much more information in a couple minutes from this video than I’ve gotten in the last couple years at the dealership !!!lol

[@familjenhjalle34]

Dude! How many hours have u been in the 9rx just sittning and tinker on all that shiny new buttons!?! 😂👍👍

[@texasjoe71]

Glad I'm not a farmer, I couldn't buy something that nice and pretty to get it dirty, even if it's meant to get dirty.

[@realtimeoutdoors9095]

Is it really your tractor without the decal across the windshield???? Got me questioning if the tractor is your and the new combine??? Hmmm hahah looks good man I’ve been watching every single video since day one keep ‘em coming

[@agridome]

Excellent explanation on Tracks vs tires……re ground pressure….unreal compared to your personal foot pressure

[@dkarre686]

We run an 8335rt on our 24r36" mounted planter (no lift assist wheels either) my experience with the 2 tracks is that it carries majority of the weight back on the drive wheel

[@joachimgahm8493]

Congratulations and thank you for your comparison, we only have JDs with wheels but looking at a slightly used 9620 rx and hopefully in the future a 8rx as planter tractor. Like your show! Cheerio from Sweden 🇸🇪

[@bobbyflowers4859]

Thank you for the education of the 8RX. That is a beautiful tractor.

[@jerryspangler6658]

One thing you need to talk about is how much better the 8RX is going to do in fall grain cart usage , weight for pulling heavy cart & muddy conditions. Zack allways takes about the 2 track & the advantage but he has not purchased a 8RX yet. You are so good at explaining these things .

[@garyfaulds2008]

I don't want to come across as a know it all , I think if you went to a big truck recycling parts center a got a tank because in the past it was cheaper then having a machine shop fix it , an if you turned the tank around so you could fill it from the back side of the cap then the fill cap is at the top of the tank an get more fuel in the tank , just a suggestion.

[@richardsnyder9271]

Ground pressure reduction is great but what about side push up when you turn. See that alot with tracks?

[@BorderViewFarms]

The berming with an 8RX is supposed to be much less than an RT. I guess we'll see

[@richardsnyder9271]

Drove by your place today. New house looks great and I think Uncle Jack was out back filling a truck. We were up that way, about 10 miles north and west looking at a used dump cart. Have a great weekend

[@timkelsey8951]

Have you ordered the BVF windshield banner yet?

[@allenmoore4186]

Thanks for the info on the tracks. I was wondering what the maintenance cost and schedule of the track system? I definitely see the benefits of tracks and haven’t heard nothing but good things from having them. However, if the maintenance cost are expensive and quite often are the tracks really helping your ROI in the long term?

[@BorderViewFarms]

I'm sure there is more maintenance I don't know cost. There is oil in the bogie and idler hubs that needs changed every 1500 hrs and a few more grease points

[@BRPFan]

@@BorderViewFarms Not sure what your 8 RX is going to be but on bigger 4WD tractors farmers say maintained cost is around $8000 to $$12,000 per year on a 9 RX or a Case IH Quadtrac. Plus changing the oil on those bogie wheels yearly for sure they say. Not a huge cost there just takes a bit of time.

[@LtColDaddy71]

One nice benefit no till farmers have is to go to lower horsepower equipment that is cheaper, lighter, and more fuel efficient. I on the other hand choose to go wider instead. Which means tracks. It goes towards our controlled traffic goals also.

[@jimbohn7333]

What if you ever get the 4 track tractor stuck in mud, will it be harder to get out because you went farther in the mud than a tired tractor?

[@stanbrow]

Thank you for taking the timber to explain this.

[@kenroberts4533]

Wondering how the 8RX is going to do applying your anhydrous. I'm afraid those front tracks are going to tear up more corn turning on the ends than tires with that bigger footprint. Hope it's not too bad.

[@michaelsimmons8113]

Nathan does that mean you can eat all the pies🥧🥧🥧😋

[@donfrisch6437]

we got 2 new 8Rs with LSWs the ride is amazing and the compaction is similar to tracks but either way they are really nice tractors

[@farmboy5622]

Just wait until it is time to clean the tracks, and/or repair replace the tracks, bogie wheels, etc. The LSW wheel option is way cheaper and less maintenance than tracks. The fuel savings from running LSW tires as compared to tracks is an eye opener.

[@BRPFan]

@@farmboy5622 Yes I would fully agree with you on the LSW tires!

[@blahsomethingclever]

Ground pressure isn't everything. Contact time counts too; a round tire squeezes more but only for a fraction of a second. Tracks squeeze much much longer.

[@ashlandgunclub1000]

I think you should go back to using nothing but Farmall Ms 🤣🤣🤣

[@BorderViewFarms]

Lol I'll have to do some math to find the ground pressure of an M 😆

[@bruceschwertner9343]

I bet you are so happy to finally be living on the farm!

[@donharper7759]

I’m excited and it’s not my tractor 👍

[@richardswartzbaugh929]

Nathan, great comparison between tracks and tires. Is the new storage building going to have a concrete floor?

[@BorderViewFarms]

Yes

[@DriftWizard750]

Cool tractor.

[@davidruffjr6045]

👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@michaelsurratt9593]

Jack is your uncle right?

[@BorderViewFarms]

Yes

[@welwyfm33]

Was Steel frame Shed much cheaper to build than wood or are there other advantages??

[@BorderViewFarms]

We didn't actually price a wood frame this time because we wanted to to match the barn we are adding on too but in the past yes the hybrid steel/wood has been cheaper

[@w056007568]

Frankly I was quite surprised at the reduction in ground pressure, it is much more than I expected. However it will most interesting to see how traction is potentially reduced in damp soils with the cleats filled up (eg on the grain cart) as I cannot somehow see how the tracks will self clean and dig like a ordinary tyre but time will tell.

[@onlygodknowswhat7595]

They typically do not sink in and dig, but is that what you want to have happen? Sinking(or digging in) is a sure sign that you just compacted a ton or two of soil together.

[@lespeterson3426]

Nice tractor a new one every 10 years oh that'll be nice. It's good to see your uncle is taking interest in the new equipment and looks like he might be warming up to the camera a little bit maybe?. It would be OK if he did, I bet he's got a lot to say, a lot of knowledge, just like your dad and you're self.. very educational, good job.