Tractor PTO Not Engaging Switch or PTO? Fixed

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In this video I show you how to troubleshoot an electric PTO that is not engaging. There are a few things that you should look at before just replacing the switch or the PTO.
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[@Volusiaev]

Very informative video. Thanks.

[@doublewide6]

Thanks, you have been watching my channel for years now. Thanks for chiming in! Bob

[@ricardomcadam9873]

Great video i admire your work keep it up 👍🏾

[@alan6832]

@@doublewide6 Usually the center terminals control the clutch and your problem was with end terminals, which control one of the safety cutouts, you probably had or have a short in one of the safety cutouts, either the one under the seat or the one in the pedal.

[@robk2670]

Every time I have a problem that is kicking my ass, doublewide6 makes a video for me and saves the day. Lol Its like you are my guardian angel. Thanks !!!!

[@anthonytranchina6736]

Great video for PTO switch checkout! Was exactly what my problem was, bad switch. Thanx a lot doublewide6!

[@larryschlote]

Thx doublwide6 4yrs later video still helping

[@edthompson1727]

Thank you great video. I have a similar problem with my Gravely. I have to pull the pto several times before it will engage. I will try your procedures. Thanks for the enlightenment.

[@andrewwilliams2536]

VERY HELPFUL, THANKS SO MUCH!

[@charlessmith6368]

Thank you Sir for a very informative and easy to follow video..

[@radishfever]

At the homestead here we removed the electric clutch completely and now apply tension via a strong spring and idler pulley combo. To relieve tension on the drive belt the idler pulley is retracted via lever. We hate electric clutches and the spring system works better with no hassles.

[@doublewide6]

Sounds like the system most tractors without a PTO use.

[@radishfever]

@@doublewide6 Yeah, I semi copied an older version of the same mower. The electric clutch is wonderful when everything is good. Worked the mower hard and finally decided the cost of repairs to the electric clutch was overwhelming.

[@philliphall5198]

Several people have had me do the same thing and it’s pretty easy to do

[@JQUICK21]

Thank You! I saw a video where the problem was the PTO clutch. Either the wire on the clutch or the clutch was free spinning and not turning the blades. I have replaced all switch's and it seems I now have to check out the clutch. Beyond frustrated here....and the weather has not been good so I have not been able to check out the clutch situation. My blades stopped working while mowing. Shut the tractor down. Then started it back up after a while and the PTO/blades did work....for a couple minutes then shut down again. Now they will not turn on or engage at all. Also, I put a new selenoid on the tractor when it would not start up. When this blade/PTO situation started I also had trouble again with starting the tractor and had to use a screwdriver on the two points of the selenoid. So it seems I have two problems, the blades not engaging and the tractor not starting. FRUSTRATION overload here! LOL

[@andersonpropertymaintenanc5573]

Thanks for great vid ! Found our yellow wires on female side of blade PTO switch, had slid back out of plug. On initial inspection wire felt good and secure, until we saw connecter tab at bottom of plug. Hope it helps someone !

[@jeremyanthony9300]

Excellent job Bob.

[@TheArkBand]

Thank you for your help ... the switch was the problem

[@shaniaa9287]

Thank you for the video. Good explanation 👍

[@aaronb483]

I bought a 2008 RZT 50 for $250 (in 2020)because the guy replace the pto and still didn't fix it. After finding a schematic, I trace it down to both reverse switch were bad. Just jumping both was all I had to do. Actually all I had to do was to jump one of them to get it to work. The diagram show that if both handle are pulled back it means you are in reverse. Home owners version of mowers need to shut off the blade in reverse. Now I think I need to rebuild both Trans. Keep those videos coming.

[@knighthawk86855]

I had a switch that tested perfectly, the pto was 3.0 ohms, wires tested perfectly, turned out to still be the switch, I keep a good switch for testing, the tester switch worked, so even though the switch tested correctly, it still can be a bad switch..... Great video.

[@chadfield376]

I am hoping that is my problem as well; switch tested good continuity wise but still bad. Have you seen a PTO clutch test hood but still be bad also?

[@knighthawk86855]

@@chadfield376 yes I have but depending on the machine, it can be the pto switch, relay or the wiring, as well as the pto its self.

[@knighthawk86855]

@@chadfield376 you don't want to make it a parts Cannon, but when the test fail to produce a fault it's the only option.

[@nashguy207]

Yep i have to replace a switch in one of my mowers every year or 2 and thats they way i test them. Good video as usual Bob. Have a great week!!!

[@doublewide6]

You too. Back to work tomorrow for me.

[@butler386]

Great video. Gonna have to learn about using one of those meters better.

[@doublewide6]

yup, I only do the basics with it, but I have been able to figure many issues out with it. Electrical is by far, the most difficult thing for me to understand in the small engine world. I try to read up on it and learn what I can.

[@thomas68morse]

You are the man! Thx DW6 you saved my ass.

[@tonym6920]

Great information DW6, 👍👍

[@doublewide6]

Thanks it is good to hear some positive feedback!

[@redskool8498]

thanks bob good vid ... have a good day .. †

[@dougtennant5442]

Thanks for a great video.

[@robertmailhos8159]

Great job you saved a lot of money for yourself or the custmer who own,s that mower 😀😃

[@doublewide6]

Yes, compared to dealer rates.

[@robertmailhos8159]

@@doublewide6 yes it,s high at the dealership

[@JQUICK21]

I know that the PTO clutch can be the problem but I don't know how to check that. It has a wire on it and also the clutch can be free spinning and not turning the blades. I have changed out all switch's. While mowing the blades would stop. This happened twice. So they stopped working/turning and I was able later on to start the tractor up and the PTO was working right off....but in a few minutes they stopped again. Now, I cannot get them them (the PTO) to work at all. Very frustrating!

[@Smalltechguy]

I'm fighting an electrical issue on a cub cadet also. The switch doesn't click the clutch, but I have continuity through the pins. The clutch measures 3.7 on my ohms meter. I just replaced one that was at 3.1 and it was good to go....Any thoughts. I had used the tractor after I had replaced the fuse and all was going well and was going through my grass very easily...then all of a sudden it stopped on the hill....I wish I had a garage to have a hoist like that. I've got to settle for a 3 ton jack...

[@da_illeztlopez3818]

How do I pull up the pto switch to replace it ? Do I just pry around the area until it pops out

[@wanesweb]

Thank you for the details brother Nice video I am still left wondering what melted the switch though. I'm about to go out and tackle my Husqvarna zero turn the PTO engages and then disengages especially if I hit heavy grass I'm thinking first I need to try to check the air gap lol have to find the dern gap checkers thanks again

[@JQUICK21]

What did you find or how did you fix it? It seems there is a wire with the PTO clutch and that can be a problem and also the PTO clutch can be free spinning and not "grabbing" or hooked up to the shaft that turns the blades. I am as frustrated as it gets here....with the bad weather I have not been able to figure this out.

[@darrylvandale7733]

Nice job 👍

[@doublewide6]

Thanks

[@rtroiani]

Is there a relay between that switch and the PTO? That click I assume is the relay. My switch is tested good and I just ordered another relay just in case. Hope it's the right one!

[@thomasgregory8941]

Thanks good video.

[@AdamEdwards415]

Is there a fuse on the PTO? Someone told me to check that also, but I can't find one.

[@kennyplay5982]

Question, I see, higher amp PTO switches. Is that something to get? Is it worth getting that versus a regular one? Thanks

[@kennyplay5982]

Question. My zero turn just shut off while idling. I jump started it but it showed 11.6 volts. Blades engaged then shut off twice. Do you think the battery can make pto shit off as well if the battery is low? Thank you

[@patbush901]

I have a 2006 Z44 cub cadet. I was mowing when the blades stopped turning. Got a new battery and when I pull the lever the blades turn slow.

[@candybohacz3510]

I have a cub cadet gtx 1054. The only way my pto will engage is if the key is in the reverse caution mode position. Any suggestions what may be going on?

[@Savage-lx5yj]

Food for thought, as DW6 mentioned, too much current draw can fry the switch. Keep in mind, continuity is merely a reflection of resistance. If the PTO is drawing too much current, it will fry your new switch. I'd also perform a voltage drop and current draw test.

[@doublewide6]

How would I preform these tests? If you can explain it I can put a video together doing it.

[@Savage-lx5yj]

@@doublewide6 It works like any other current test DW, hook a DMM inline or use a current clamp. Most of them are 4 amps or below. (Check service manual)... The process is almost the same as you would use checking a starter. If you need more specifics, let me know. Thanks for all the good videos man

[@robbieaussievic]

@@doublewide6 ...... Place the red lead of your DMM in the yellow socket, set dial to current position (20a max). place your probes in series with the PTO (engaged), refer to spec. of PTO. Don't forget to return probes to normal position when done as current measurement position is a dead short.

[@totoortiz8266]

Savage, so what if it is drawing too much current? What can you do?

[@Savage-lx5yj]

@@totoortiz8266 If you found no short to ground, replace PTO sir...

[@BrucesShop]

Early break make contacts. Good job. It is the price of those little switches that drive me nuts. Maybe it is too Canada. Costly. Good video Bob

[@doublewide6]

They aren't cheap, but as you know this is why these mowers cost so much to get them worked on.

[@BrucesShop]

@@doublewide6 I do know that Thanks again bob.

[@rubenleon2103]

wow excellent video👍👍⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐

[@jamesjanaszek6287]

I have an xt1 50" cut and when I engage the pot it blows the 20 am fuse under the seat on the battery.

[@williamporter9604]

Hey, so I bought a used Bolen. Wouldn't start the guy I bought it from says lower the PTO arm and bring up slow. So that worked, why I don't know. But now it's not working. Battery is new. What was happening when I lowered PTO arm that was making it start?

[@Schneeef]

Is cub cadet just a Husqvarna or vice versa. This cub resembles my husky z248f almost identical.

[@jimcole6423]

Sparks flying around in my pto. Any ideas?

[@Bluuplanet]

I have a Cub Cadet but not a Zero turn. My PTO knob works, for a while, but then I have to push it in and pull it back out to make it run for a few minutes longer. It's acting like a relay is losing contact but I have no clue.

[@lynnwright9963]

Same. Did you find out the problem?

[@clarkhislop5329]

what if you 5ohms on the PTO ?

[@donnakidd2740]

put a new pto on my cub cadet xlt and it is still making a noise

[@jeremyanthony9300]

BOB , have you ever had a honda gcv160 engine with the ezaust valve stuck shut before? I have one now ,and you go to pull start it and it nearly rips your arm out. lmk if you've had one and what the fix is. thanks . jeremy

[@troystanley192]

A sheared flywheel key will cause that. Check that first.

[@doublewide6]

Sounds like a sheared flywheel key. Your timing is off.

[@pirate1958]

MY PTO part number is 725-04174, will this pto fit mine? When I clicked the amazon link, none of those numbers are my RZT-50

[@luistinajero272]

so Im having the same issue with one of my two RTZ 50. one of them will not engage the PTO. so I changed out the switch from the other tractor and still will not engage, so it can either be the PTO, or a bad wiring, is that correct?

[@doublewide6]

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[@janetgollihue9414]

Help! I have the Cub cadet z force sx. I struck the PTO switch and broke it. How do I pull the switch to replace it?

[@Theyralltakenfu]

I hope you got your answer because it’s really easy to replace.

[@BG-fx8ce]

@@Theyralltakenfu how?

[@Theyralltakenfu]

@@BG-fx8ce if you have the same mower as me , take the bolts off the cover and that will give you access to the switch. Just make sure you’re buying the correct switch for your mower. All you do is unplug it, and plug in the new one. Restore the cover back on and your done. Let me know how that works out , or if you have questions or problems.

[@carlthornton3076]

Very Good!... #75 ✝ {5-11-2022}

[@georgestrickland9278]

manual blade engagement good,electric pto sucks big time

[@philliphall5198]

Theses electric clutch are going to keep going up in price as they keep failing

[@oSTYNCLSYo]

My PTO turns the deck on but at the same time it kills the mower, like it's being grounded out? The deck is clean and the blades move free.

[@townsendbullard1049]

I'm having the same problem, did you figure it out?

[@oSTYNCLSYo]

@@townsendbullard1049 turns out, low compression was the issue. I since have sold the mower.

[@townsendbullard1049]

@@oSTYNCLSYo thanks for the response, my issue seems to be electrical. It started when I accidentally installed battery backwards 🤦. The main fuse blows every time I engage PTO switch witch kills the mower. PTO doesn't engage at all. PTO clutch reads fine on multimeter. I'm going to replace the relay switch and see if that's the issue.

[@oSTYNCLSYo]

@@townsendbullard1049 ah, mistakes happen. Seems like you already have it handled. Good luck.

[@jeremyanthony9300]

Btw Bob , where you from?

[@doublewide6]

Fogelsville, pa

[@jeremyanthony9300]

@@doublewide6 awesome

[@Eeropolvasti]

I dont think it was neccessarily the switch, you did not test it right, on a 3 one, continuety goes from third one to middle one, you did not test that like it??, new one you did, so switch could be fine, connection under was probably dirty, bad, anyway, have a nice day =)

[@cd1168]

Unreal. I just wanted to see how to install the switch. Yet that didn’t show up. Dam

[@tombukt2]

While this is going on is your display or hour meter also out I have a similar problem I have no carburetor solenoid I have no PTO and I have no display if I remove my carburetor solenoid and put a regular float bowl plug the unit runs fine but I still have no PTO and no display this is a clue of either a bad switch ignition or PTO I'm sure anyone

[@grosseileracingteam]

Since when is a zero turn a tractor?

[@davidwideman470]

for one thats a mower not a tractor

[@altonhowell7615]

bgg