Traditional East Prussian folk song - Strazde strazdeli (Klaipėdos krašto lietuvininkų daina)

[@kse4707]

I recently learned that all of my East Prussian "German" ancestors were actually Baltic people who were forced to speak German and adopt German names many generations ago. I do not have a single drop of actual German blood. It's heartbreaking how long it took me to find out about my real roots

[@diana-cy4kj]

Welcome to the Baltic family then!

[@kse4707]

@@diana-cy4kj Thank you! Aw I might have teared up a little. I just started to learn lithuanian! ❤️

[@Annelie58]

My mothers parents came from East Prussia. My DNA test said I am 51% Baltic :)

[@wellbridgehealthessentials9158]

How did you determine this? My people were also from Baden, Prussia. I have not been able to trace back further than 1801. I would like to know more about their true roots

[@diana-cy4kj]

Juli Anne Dalton You can get an ancestry test. Look it up.

[@supermania2488]

More than 50 years ago my grandmother sang this song

[@ventsdzerkalis5579]

this song is still being sung across Europe, I heard it in Monaco (wtf)

[@EthanAllen420]

This is among the most beautiful things I've ever heard.

[@miglius1992]

It's kind of amazing how we survived just by passing on song throw over those ten thousand year we lived. And in other nations, the treasure is long gone..

[@kucam12mischablue]

they are never lost. they are just forgotten. they will come back. what parents want to forget, children will want to remember. it's the way things work.

[@massimouguzzoni8631]

Many thanks! They are so beautiful and very good. Best regards from Italy! ❤️🇮🇹🌈🇱🇹❤️

[@ZTbig]

There is something very powerful in our spirit. Uprooted due to ideological, political and economical shifts, we have forgotten Baltic power. Being a person removed from my roots by rather seemingly rational decisions by my parents, there is this deeply entrenched, a part of ancient way inside I, that seeps out to the surface with furious energy and melancholy when listening to folk from my ancestry. When observing other individuals from the region, we are indeed still a collection of old ways, skills, know how and deep rooted honorable ways, people of tradition in the way that the spirit of Balts still shows even though we are so much more different then before, with so many more learned alien attributes, being something that we are not. There is indeed a call to come back that I am increasingly experiencing at this point in time. Turime grysti visi atgal i karalyste...

[@Balticfolk]

I can relate to what you've written so well... I remember the first time I heard a sutartinė - it was like hearing my blood calling me home

[@fidenemini111]

Nuostabi daina! Labai panašu į žemaičių dainas.

[@drzewiejkosa3798]

Pięknie śpiewają

[@vilks7657]

Makes me feel homesick although I have never been there ❣

[@diana-cy4kj]

Maybe you were...in other lives?

[@ZiogaiSuokia]

stipri melodija. graži daina :)

[@folksurvival]

Beautiful.

[@cateater1548]

Prussia still lives in our blood we are a people without a nation but we still must fight for our children

[@abrahamanthony3011]

Prussia lives through Germany today.

[@HrafnkelHarthrathi]

Heh, we got too war-loving for our own good.

[@nakitaluckysibih5581]

@Fuck inferior ugly usa shut up Xenophobic

[@nakitaluckysibih5581]

@Fuck inferior ugly usawell, Germany doesn't through arabs and turks

[@warroomscale]

Respect from Lithuania Prssian child 🇱🇹

[@stefanhenri3597]

Guys, this is not sung in Old Prussian, it is sung in a Lithuanian dialect spoken in the territory of what was then Prussia. Yeah, both Old Prussian (extinct) and Lithuanian are Baltic languages, if you want to read more: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prussian_Lithuanians

[@Vambuole]

Labai graži daina.

[@Balticfolk]

Man irgi labai graži :) Įdomu, kad žemaičiai taip pat turi šitos dainos variantą, nors, kai pas juos vyrai daugiabalsiškai užtraukia, skamba visai kitaip - gūdžiau ir, sakyčiau, gal net nuožmiai - Žemaitiška vyrų daina (Samogitian folk song) - O Ir Pastatė Margą Dvarelį

[@danimalsdamamos9968]

Amazing & beyond my ability to encapsulate emotions felt while hearing it

[@byalfredis]

Tiesiog nuostabu!

[@brettanthonypalmer2956]

This song makes the Balt in my blood warm. I wish I could return to my families Prussian land,but I am told the Germanic and Slavic part of my blood gives me no right of return,I guess I have no longer an ancestral home anywhere on this earth.

[@Soundofmusic777]

It’s never too late to return. Unfortunately, in North America all people are orphans.

[@kubizdalis101]

You would be welcomed and very surprised how many Lithuanian people have other European nation ancestry in their blood.

[@irenagrant-koch7159]

You will know when you get there, if that is where you belong. Many Prussians mixed with Lithuanians, so they will never be wxtinct.

[@sperryunivac7791]

I'm 3/8 Prussian. My parents are from Lithuania. My mother's father was full blooded Old Prussian. She recalled hearing his relatives speak a language she did not understand which was different from Lithuanian. Prussian is close to the original Indo-European tongue. As such it has more in common with Latin, Aryan, even Engish. Being so original it has great pure spirit and truth in it, since languages get corrupted over time. Prussian and Curonian need to be preserved along with the ancient godly values where everything one did was sacred!

[@a.v.j5664]

Unlike curonian we have some written sources of old prussian

[@penand_paper6661]

Aryan? You mean Sanskrit?

[@sperryunivac7791]

@@penand_paper6661 I meant Aryan as a language family.

[@penand_paper6661]

@@sperryunivac7791 Indo-Iranian

[@sperryunivac7791]

@@penand_paper6661 Thanks for the official name! But does that cover the Aryans in the north before and after the migrations south? (We Lithuanians seem to remember our old neighbors we call the Arionai.)

[@spiritrose4301]

I love it my ancestors come from the village

[@virginijusrimkevicius6384]

Labai gražu.

[@markskise]

Skaista dziesma

[@virginijusmileska8461]

Mes ją dainuojam per vėlines . Labai graži.

[@Balticfolk]

Gera girdėti, kad tradicijos gyvos :)

[@DD-rt9lc]

Love to my homeland

[@InkanSpider]

This is really beautiful

[@prussianmonarchist7110]

Preussens Gloria is still the best Prussian song.

[@newagetapes]

Go fuck yourself. Prūsija visada bus Baltijos šalis!

[@Ochibason]

Skaisti, labi,

[@linassounds7367]

Paldies😊

[@penand_paper5112]

Slightly creepy, yet amazingly touching. Beautiful.

[@INecr0]

Beautiful! It sounds like Lithuanian/Latvian mixed with Old Polish for me...like our Commonwealth :) Greetings from Poland!

[@balts4084]

it is that but without the polish part so you're basically right

[@miglius1992]

Yes it was great times with commonwealth, or els Lithuania and Poland has nothing in common. Your slav your language is Slavic not Baltic... Blatic language is oldest in World and not polish, coz Lithuanias been living of this land for 10 thousands of years and the like 1500 years ago slav appear out of nowhere and polish too..

[@rds7516]

literally has nothing to do with polish but yeah

[@miglius1992]

@patjoni Its the oldest living language in world, but its not language is not oldest in world... So what is your question?

[@miglius1992]

@patjoni A language which is complex in its grammar rules is old language. Modern Lithuanian is to complex to say at least... Like Sanskrit, also has a complex grammar... If a language has not many forms its modern and old is much more complex forms and grammar or no grammar roles at all.. There is a lot of factories that make a language old. So you got hear one 1 of them... You and me we are not the once that says that, if Linguistics since the 13th sentry keep saying that Baltic language is the oldest... You question in relevant to why its... There is a lot of knowledge on internet for you to read about what makes a language old, and you will see there is much to talk about...

[@ericschnelten1193]

I just leaned my 3rd great grandfather was born in Prussia. I found his naturalization records from 1853 that denounced the Emperor of Austria. So then I got confused and ended up here 😂

[@joalexsg9741]

I've noticed some words have their endings either omitted or pronounced differently from the written form in some stanzas, in this one is was a bit hard to follow what was sung with the lyrics. Liels paldies for the lyrics, anyway:-) and for uploading this precious video here!

[@agnietesart]

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[@Balticfolk]

Šaunu, kad delmonų siuvimo radicija vis dar gyvuoja :) Ši trumpa daina yra iš šios LRT laidos apie Liudviko Rėzos dainas: www.lrt.lt/mediateka/irasas/13870/l-rezos-dainos

[@DebrerFrans73]

Man graži.

[@sauliusorvidas4048]

Man taip pat.

[@ОмарХайям-о6ж]

ПРЫГОЖА🤗💖👍🌼🌺🌸

[@Heke1959]

graži

[@audriuspetrikas883]

Ačiū, kad galima Kuršu pakvėpuoti, toli nuo šių vietų nutolus

[@ursosexmachina]

I want to learn Prussian so bad.

[@Victoire14]

The song is in Lithuanian though.

[@ursosexmachina]

Viktorija Tiažkijūtė I figured after doing some research.

[@Victoire14]

Riiiight. Of course it's not. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Prussian_language

[@Victoire14]

Now you do.

[@Victoire14]

It's not wrong per se, the Baltic Prussians gradually died out and the elites of the Teutonic Order were obviously Germans to begin with. You could read up more about the Prussia Crusade if you're curious. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prussian_Crusade

[@janisberzins8810]

Skaisti🇱🇹🇱🇻🇪🇪

[@intas08]

Nuo sios nuostabios dainos iki olia-lia pupyciu mui, bui hui labai toli nuejome ne i ta puse....Rimtai esam pasiklyde.

[@kubizdalis101]

jau vien tas faktas, kad tu atėjai čia pasako, jog tu nepasiklydęs ;)

[@innspiron]

Daugiau dekit tokių.

[@flittermouse1233]

Is Prussian pronounced like Lithuanian? I want to know how to pronounce the words I found. This is a beautiful language. It's a real shame that both the Baltic and German Prussias are dead.

[@Balticfolk]

The pronunciation of Old Prussian is similar to Lithuanian but not exactly the same (accentuation differs). If you could let me know the words in question, I could record what they're supposed to be pronounced like. This song is in Prussian dialect of Lithuanian language though. You can hear actual Old Prussian language here (some songs are with a stronger non-Prussian accent, some with a less strong accent): kzbin.info/aero/PLrLh0Vet5pcLmwOl9V0EkVAujChaXu6p7

[@balts4084]

prussian is like Lithuanian mashed up with Latvian

[@rytisliaucys3444]

Guys, stop confusing German Prussia with the ACTUAL old nation of Prussians. Before Germany of any kind was even a thing, a baltic tribe, linguistically similar to Latvians and Lithuanians lived there. They were fierce warriors and kept raiding Polish lands, so the Poles called for Teutonic Knights for help. They slaughtered the Prussians, and then colonized the lands. And thats how this fake "Prussian Empire" as we know it, was born

[@Rynbur]

Alot of east prussians survived and assimilated in to german culture

[@lithuanian_mapper]

@Rytis Liaučys exactly

[@polskastronk2700]

Prussian empire was based on Christianity, therefore it was doomed from the beginning. Christianity is a Jewish construct, a mongrelized cult

[@horstpeter2202]

@Fuck inferior ugly usa My family did. Im a German of east Prussian origin. And by that I mean baltic origin, my ancestors spoke bilingual old Prussian and German and later Lithuanian and German. Unfortunately I didn't learn Lithuanian as a child, so I try to learn it now.

[@ainisauktaits1616]

@Fuck inferior ugly usa What the hell are you talking about

[@linasma235]

At the end of the XIII century, in the late 80s, the Teutonic Order finally conquered all the Prussian tribes.On 15 February 1386, Jogaila was baptised in Kraków, married Jadwiga and was crowned King of Poland. In February-March 1387, the Lithuanian nobility were baptised in Vilnius, followed by the townspeople and other residents.The development of the Catholic Church in Latvia took place from the 11th to the 13th century. Due to close ties with Sweden and Denmark (where Christianity was introduced as early as the 9th century)

[@Mindezaz191]

❤️ ❤️ ❤️

[@johnstamps7044]

I can’t speak their language but some how I sang along…

[@leereyqwa]

Aš ją dainoju ta pesna😘😘😘😘 Я живу в Литве ураааааа КТО ИЗ ЛИТВЫ ЛАЙК.

[@MrChunkerton2001]

My family left prussia when the Germans came, there was a whole village named Polnow, that's my last name

[@Thornus_______]

I found out recently that I have Norwegian ,German and Baltic DNA.

[@balts4084]

there are many baltic dna lithuanian, latvian, prussian, yotvingian, galindian, samogitian, latgalian, selonian, courlandish, semigallian and maybe even more

[@cats101lover]

I’m Norwegian, Icelandic, French, and Mexican :)

[@fidenemini111]

@Mežabrālis Still Balts.

[@Heke1959]

kaip suprantu video vieta butaforiniai krikštai?

[@fidenemini111]

mindaugas gringo Be abejones. Bet labai vietoje ir simbolishka.

[@copy2886]

such a sad song

[@eLykidas]

text and translation please

[@Balticfolk]

Translation of the lyrics: Oh, thrush, you dear thrush, you mottled bird, don't jump over the road! / I have a riffle ready, it is loaded with silver. / I shot once - the feathers got dusty, the earth trembled. / I shot for the second time - it didn't get up anymore, the woods hummed. / Oh, hum and drone, you trees of woods! My brothers are still little. / My dear brothers will grow up, they will cut down the trees in the wood. / Oh, they've cut the trees down and hewed them in the woods, then chopped them up / They've made a colorful manor by the wide road / At each corner there was a lilac bush with nine branches / In each of their tips a cuckoo cuckooed every morning / They cuckooed until they've cuckooed out a daughter from her mother / Oh, I will go to the land where people live without working / I will pull the green silk though the seas and the lagoons / Then I will get to the land where people live without working / Under the turf, under the meadow - there people live without working // Original lyrics: Strazde strazdeli, raibas paukšteli, Nešokinėk per kelią! Turiu flintelę užgintavotą, Sidabrėliu lioduotą. Sykelį šoviau - plunksnos dulkėjo, Žemužė padrebėjo. Antrą kai šoviau - jau nebekėlė, Giružė ūžtelėjo. Oi, ūžkit gauskit, girios medačiai! Maži mano brolyčiai. Oi, užaugs užaugs mano brolyčiai, Iškirs girios medačius. Giružėj kirto, giružėj tašė, Pagiružy sutašė. Pasikurdinkis margą dvarelį, Ant plačio vieškelėlio. Ant kiek kampelio po alyvėlę Su devyniom šakelėm. Į viršūnėlę po gegužėlę, Kas rytužy kukavo. Tolei kukavo, kol iškukavo Dukrytę nuo mamužės. Oi, eisiu eisiu į tą žemelę, Kur gyvena be darbelio. Persitraukdinsiu žalią šilkelį Per jūres, per marias. Tai aš nueisiu į tą žemelę, Kur gyven' be darbelio, Po velėnėlė, po smilginėle - Čia gyvena be darbelio...

[@prussianeagle1941]

Where can I get the lyrics in the original language?

[@Oberschutzee]

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[@Balticfolk]

You can see the translation in video description too. These are full lyrics: Strazde strazdeli, raibas paukšteli, Nešokinėk per kelią! Turiu flintelę užgintavotą, Sidabrėliu lioduotą. Sykelį šoviau - plunksnos dulkėjo, Žemužė padrebėjo. Antrą kai šoviau - jau nebekėlė, Giružė ūžtelėjo. Oi, ūžkit gauskit, girios medačiai! Maži mano brolyčiai. Oi, užaugs užaugs mano brolyčiai, Iškirs girios medačius. Giružėj kirto, giružėj tašė, Pagiružy sutašė. Pasikurdinkis margą dvarelį, Ant plačio vieškelėlio. Ant kiek kampelio po alyvėlę Su devyniom šakelėm. Į viršūnėlę po gegužėlę, Kas rytužy kukavo. Tolei kukavo, kol iškukavo Dukrytę nuo mamužės. Oi, eisiu eisiu į tą žemelę, Kur gyvena be darbelio. Persitraukdinsiu žalią šilkelį Per jūres, per marias. Tai aš nueisiu į tą žemelę, Kur gyven' be darbelio, Po velėnėlė, po smilginėle - Čia gyvena be darbelio...

[@modestassutkus6148]

Nuostabu

[@linasma235]

Lithuanians are last pagans in Europe and we hope we will be last who will accept Islam

[@balts4084]

lithuanians are Catholic, and did you know that Latvian tribes were the last?

[@prussianeagle1941]

@@balts4084 Yes the Old Prussian tribe of the Warmians were basically the last to resist. They literally fought to the end. Their leader was hung on a hill in the kaliningrad Oblast area. (Referred to as "Warmos Hill")

[@vvxxx4986]

@@balts4084 Nenusikalbek braliukas

[@anthemsofeurope2408]

@@prussianeagle1941 No the last was the slavic ranians on Rügen

[@prussianeagle1941]

@@anthemsofeurope2408 You sure? Unless the sources I've read are wrong? Also a correction about the hill (Glapo's Hill) is what it is called.

[@Despotic_Waffle]

this east prussia nowadays is poland?

[@Balticfolk]

Roughly half of it is in Poland, half has been occupied by Russia and renamed "Kaliningrad" and a small piece (Memelland) is in Lithuanian state.

[@Despotic_Waffle]

Baltic folk oh Kaliningrad was once Konigsberg right?, I only recently got interested in history of Prussia and learning about all this history is interesting

[@turkoositerapsidi]

@@Despotic_Waffle Königsberg was a city that German Knight Order did build on land of prussian tribes. German ettlers came in and took over prussian land and after this the germans called theselves prussian after they have forcefully replaced natives. They did not kill all native prussians but the remaining ones got forced german stuff on them.

[@ДмитрийПанфилов-39]

​​@@BalticfolkМожет это Литва оккупировала Мемель???🤔🤔🤔

[@cult8625]

Ostpreußen

[@ceslovasvieta938]

relax all words in song is lithuanian

[@Ryalf]

Lietuvninkaa y źemaite apvuokitieji vo na prùsa.

[@viliussmproductions]

East Prussian is used geographically here. This is not sung in Lithuanian (which was always spoken in Memelland and still is in what is now the Klaipėda region). This is not actual Prussian, which was also a Baltic tribe that used to live in Eastern Prussia, but was destroyed/Germanized over the ages.

[@dfaltin]

This is not East Prussian, but Lithuanian.

[@Balticfolk]

It is both East Prussian and Lithuanian. "East Prussian" is not about a language but rather a location. Many different ethnicities lived in East Prussia, Lithuanians were among them. This song is a traditional folk song from East Prussia sung in Lithuanian language. If you are looking for songs that aren't in Lithuanian but in the Old Prussian language, here's a playlist: kzbin.info/aero/PLrLh0Vet5pcLmwOl9V0EkVAujChaXu6p7

[@uraganius8162]

Šio laikmečio versija: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gafZcmhoj5KtnLs

[@glapposonovsacredvarmi3060]

Its very similar to ukrainian orthodox church chanting. Xtians stole many beautifull songs and used as theirs

[@randomname2926]

Wrong Prussia going back to Preussian Gloria

[@turkoositerapsidi]

Lietuva + Latvija > Deutschland + Rassija

[@martynasseniunas9602]

TurkoosiTerapsidi ka cia nuvemei nesamone

[@vvxxx4986]

@@martynasseniunas9602 Turkas balvone norejo paskyt didesne dvasia ( ai bendrai IMBICILUI nepaiskinsi)

[@sperryunivac7791]

This is a dialect of Lithuanian, not the older West Balt tongues of Prussian or Curonian wich wee along the sea. These old Balts were mostly killed by the Russians in 1945, and their oldest language nearly disappeared. The song is very beautiful, but modern Lithuanuans sadly have a slurred Slavic accent instead of the proper ancient crisp and clear pronunciation.

[@Balticfolk]

You're right about some things and wrong about many others. Old Prussians weren't killed by Russians in 1945, they were instead decimated by Germans during the Northern Crusades (Old Balts were still heathen at that time) and the last of them perished in the Great Northern War plague outbreak of 18th century - that was long before WWII. Now, as for the "Prussian" of 20th century that you're writing about, you probably mean the Prussian-German dialect - it was only called "Prussian" location-wise, NOT ethnicity-wise, same as Prussian-Lithuanian dialect that you can hear in this video. Both Germans and Lithuanians were newcomers in Prussia. As for your remark about "slurred Slavic accent", you're just talking out've yer arse here. Lithuanian language had roughly the same impact from Slavic as Old Prussian did, as it had been sheltered from Western Slavs by none other than Old Prussians and Yotvingians (Sudovians) for much of its development while the East Slavic influence was late and negligible.

[@sperryunivac7791]

@@Balticfolk I defer to your knowledge on most things. I know about the German oppression etc. My Prussian grandpa didn't like the Germans there. Experts say the few remaining West Balts were wiped out largely in 1945. I hear Klaipėda was reduced from about 43000 to 8000 population in late 1945 by the Russians taking inhuman revenge on all in the old East Prussian area, German and Balt alike... Experts and my family called the prewar non-German folks in the Klaipėda area "Balts" to distinguish them from regular Lithuanians. Not sure if that included some Curonians with Prussians etc.

[@Rumaliza]

this is not prussian, this is kind of slavic, but beautiful anyways

[@Balticfolk]

This has nothing to do with Slavs and everything to do with Prussia. It is in the East-Prussian dialect of Lithuanian language which belongs to the Baltic branch of Indo-European language family - same as now extinct Old Prussia which the aborigines of Prussia spoke.

[@Balticfolk]

coffinthief, you are right that Old Prussian language is a different thing than German Ostpreußisch dialect but it is also different from the language used in this song. In this song you can hear Lithuanian dialect endemic to East-Prussia which had developed after the 1422 Treaty of Melno. If you would like to hear the original Old Prussian language, you can do so here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mqHTdI16ipyNoMk

[@Rumaliza]

the prussian was a dialect of german language, which has disappeared after 1945, and the prussian germans were replaced by russians in Kaliningrad (old Königsberg) and Lithuanian in Klaipeda (old Memel)

[@Balticfolk]

Rumaliza, part of what you wrote is false: Prussian was first and foremost a separate language which had nothing to do with Germans by whom it was later anihilated: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Prussian_language Germans have never constituted a majority in Klaipeda region, it was already mostly Lithuanian (hence it merged with Lithuania), most of it is in blue in this German ethnographic map (meaning that Lithuanians were a majority): gauss.suub.uni-bremen.de/suub/hist/servlet/servlet.hmap?id=245837&blatt=0

[@Rumaliza]

I see, well ok, thank you for your informations, i don't know there was original baltic people before, i always think the "true" prussians were the germans who were expelled from there by soviets, and i think lithuanians were russians deported there to replace the germans. I understand better :)

[@igorfonkuzen5457]

С чего он прусский, может литовский фольклор? Это ни одно и тоже!

[@fidenemini111]

Kleinlitauen oder Preußisch Litauen.

[@soslanbitijev5101]

Kauno tautines kultūros centras

[@soslanbitijev5101]

Kauno tautines kultūros centras

[@soslanbitijev5101]

Kauno tautines kultūros centras

[@TheCraftedMine]

I mean... its a nice song... but I think they could have gotten women who look *MORE* dead inside? ya know?

[@schanninla1973]

Its actually not a prussian Folk song... Also I dont understand why the title is in some language but not in German... The prussians were and are Germans...

[@Balticfolk]

IchBin Lecker This song is actually as Prussian as one can possibly get: it was recorded by Ludwig Rhesa in the late 18th century from the local peasants of East Prussia and from the song's archaic melody and lyrics ethnomusicologists can discern that 18th century is only the date of when it was recorded, while the date of its creation must be at least several centuries older. If you are interested in the authentic folklore of East Prussia, you can find more traditional folk songs as well as their German translations in Rhesa's book published in 1843: archive.org/stream/dainos00reza#page/n5/mode/2up Prussians were not Germans from the get go, they were a Baltic nation which was related to the present day Lithuanians and Latvians, it was only during the crusade era when the Germans first showed up in Prussia, genocided and expelled most of the natives to Lithuania and appropriated their toponym "Prussia". But after the treaty of Melno some of those expelled people were allowed to return, though having spent several centuries living in Lithuania they had already switched to Lithuanian language hence the original lyrics of this folk song are in Prussian-Lithuanian dialect.

[@InkanSpider]

+Schan Ninla Not really. The Prussians were a Baltic people with a language somewhat similar to Lithuanian and Latvian. But they were chased away or killed by the teutonic knights, and then the Germans took over the area. Archaeologists have found traces and objects left after the Prussians, which showes how they had a language related to today's Lithuanian and Latvian, as well as having a religion similar to the Vikings Norse religion. That's what I at least found researching about them.

[@InkanSpider]

+Markus Thiede Well, archaeologists have found proof that the teutonic knights either killed them or chased them away, and then claiming the land for themselfs. So yes, the Prussians were aldready extinct as a people when the duchy was established.

[@InkanSpider]

+Markus Thiede Well, I'm also talking about text documents. But, we both might be correct.

[@byalfredis]

+Markus Thiede Lad, your history knowledge is very poor indeed, especially Prussian, Curonian and Skalvian, so before posting any claims, study them first, dig deeper, way deeper then your current education level is, learn some pre-history of Teutonic order , then post.

[@Rus-bw2oq]

East Prussia is historically Russian, just like Poland and Ukraine

[@Balticfolk]

Yeah, "historically" as in the late modern history since WWII.

[@balts4084]

ok, just one thing to ask. Are you seeing Russian propaganda articles or do you just don't know history?

[@vvxxx4986]

Don't show your darkness it's stupid

[@ricardasddd6645]

Amerika tozhe ved iskonno russkaya,da?))

[@ucja1663]

Historically are Ukraine and Poland older than Russia