Traditions Deer Hunter Flintlock Unboxing and First Impressions | Beginner Muzzleloading

[@HawkenHorse]

Respect that I can see your breath filming this out in the cold barn. ❄️ 👏

[@corwinchristensen260]

I was given one of these as a gift a few years ago. I have enjoyed it IMMENSELY. Right off the bat, I intended to carve my own stock, but the synthetic has grown on me. It's hard to beat hosing it off and letting it drip dry (lock and barrel get the usual attention, but they are EASY to remove and deal with separately.) It's SUPER light but doesn't feel insubstantial which is wonderful if you're carrying it for a while. Where it's non-traditional, I braided a simple grey/black paracord sling for it. With the challenges of getting caps and whatnot over the past few years, the flintlock has become a comforting part of the collection as everything I need can be sourced myself. I did hone the tumbler and sear VERY slightly (slightly "crunchy" out of the box) and ended up with a very nice, just under 4# trigger. On a good day from a sandbag and weighing charges (60 gr. FF .015 patch .490 ball cast & rolled myself), I can group inside 2" at 100 yds. Looking forward to your testing results.

[@TwoStageTrigger]

I got one (percussion) for $150 last year. Tested sabot, pa conicals, round ball, bore driver, and power belts. My most accurate projectile was .495 round ball with .015 patch and an over powder felt wad. Next best was .490 round ball, then pa conical then the rest were about the same. Tried the hornady great plains, but it was all over the place. But I might have been using too much powder. 80 grains of pyrodex for all my tests.

[@DavidHBurkart]

@@corwinchristensen260 Thank you for the load suggestions

[@jamespugh]

​@TwoStageTrigger had cva bobcat was like yours percussion. Was good rifle. Dad always got me pelts when I was kid hunting with was first one family want to hunt muzzloader. Then dad got both inline me older style 209 him new break barrel. Used pyrodex in all of them in pelts worse thing for percussion guns. Even percussion pistol brother he ran fine powder pyrodex ife with caps I always noticed but worked but supper crosive. 100gr powder in sabot kind work ok must my rifles. Kind want flintlock just hunt late season in Pennsylvania so I can hunt buck or doe and not just doe sorten areas.

[@Bayan1905]

For someone in PA who needs a flintlock because of the rules, yes, but I don't think I can bear myself using a flintlock with a synthetic stock, but I can see where it has its uses.

[@raytribble8075]

I agree with you. I have been building my own custom flintlocks by hand for 15 years now… it just looks wrong with all the modern stuff on it. Albeit… it is better thank a stick lol

[@krockpotbroccoli65]

I don't think "synthetic stock" and "flintlock" should ever exist in the same sentence, let alone in the description of a product, but then again traditionalistic curmudgeons like me are not the target demographic for items like this.

[@mathewgoebel4078]

And to top that off fiber optic sights reminds me when I was looking at a retro motorcycle sat down on it looked at the old school speedometer with the big old needle on it and what's behind it a digital mileage odometer that was the end of that purchase🤦‍♂️

[@raytribble8075]

@@mathewgoebel4078 having a speedometer needle keeping sync with the tach needle while ripping through the gears in my old Honda CBX was a rush back in 1978… to hear those 6 cylinders purr one more… ahhhhh takes me back

[@joshp2542]

I get it... But, synthetic stocks are really nice in crappy weather and lighter. I have a wood stock on my flintlock and that thing gets heavy after awhile. Good luck this season.

[@alanparadis5061]

Looks like a good value for someone wanting to do some muzzleloading... great video Ethan, Thank you for sharing

[@ericpennington6530]

This was my first flintlock, i picked one up so i could hunt the PA flintlock season, I actually have 2 of them now, their pretty good shooters for what they are, I harvested a few deer with it, I have recantly moved up to a northwest trade gun, this will be my first season with the trade gun, but yea the deerhunter is perfect for starting out. My deerhunters like 3f main charge and 3 or 4f in the pan, i have tried 2f but it gives alot slower ignition. Just gotta play around with them find what they like, thats half the fun imo, fyi 5/8( english flint) is the flint size, i tried Agate flints but they really gouged up the frizzen bad. 🇺🇸

[@jacobwilbert1018]

Ethan, on the sibject of the nice trigger. It was shocking to me but traditions now have a set screw on the tumbler so you can set the trigger as heavy or as crisp as you like by making the shelf where the trigger engages shallower or deeper. I was blown away, wish we saw that more.

[@ILoveMuzzleloading]

I just found this after cleaning it! Fantastic feature

[@jacobwilbert1018]

@ILoveMuzzleloading Yea simple n works good. To me that ads a ton of value n fixes what can be a big headache

[@alphadogpredators]

Where is this at on the rifle on the lock or in the trigger housing area

[@ILoveMuzzleloading]

It’s on the inside of the lock. Only accessible when the lock is out of the stock

[@paulregner5335]

I've had a Traditions Deer Hunter percussion model in .50 caliber since the early eighties. Mine has a wooden half stock, but a modern rubber padded butt and modern adjustable iron sights. It was my go-to white tail slayer for years while I was stationed in North Carolina. I would fill all six of my tags annually and never have to leave the base to do so (MCAS Cherry Point had 5,500 acres set aside on base for hunting).

[@DavidHBurkart]

This seems to be a great entry-level hunting muzzleloader. Appreciate that you bring these models to light rather than poo-pooing them. The price for a quality period-correct or replica-style flintlock is cost prohibitive to most folks interested in shooting/hunting with primitive arms. So much can be taught, learned and mentored with these hybrid smokepoles.

[@jaybird4610]

I have an older investarms percussion hawken “carbine”. Very fun to shoot. Great bash around the woods gun. Nice review.

[@desertrat4532]

I like investarms. I have the great plains .50 Good rifle. I may pick up one of their flinters.

[@bobconnor1210]

Find the investarms hawken with the stainless bore liner? Don’t let it out of your sight. Real gem.

[@BeetleBuns]

I have one too, best shooting muzzleloader I have ever owned, despite being the cheapest. I do want to swap out the rubber buttpad for a metal one because the rubber catches my winter clothes a bit when shouldering, but it will put 2 shots in the same hole at 50 yards, insane little caplock

[@rockmclaughlin3199]

Good intro video. Thank you. I bought a Traditions PA Pellet flintlock last year for a budget survival series I am working on and am impressed, for the price point. I suspect the lock is the same between the two models and I have found it to be designed well and very reliable. Will skip the name/model but a competitors lock for a similar priced gun was so bad, I had to put in an L&R Lock. Wish Traditions would have a .54 with 1 in 48 twist for all these base models!!!

[@Stevew443]

I have the percussion version of that rifle, although I got mine when Lyman still made it. Also the stock on my rifle is wood. The Lyman Deerstalker is a fantastic rifle and with 70 grains of FFg black powder and a round ball it is deadly accurate.

[@locksbog4270]

Bought this gone in 2003 or 2004 at Gander Mountain, it came in a blister pack with everything you needed to go hunting with except the powder. It has been a very serviceable gun through the years and has an easy one screw trigger adjustment, keep it buttered and It’ll do you fine. Mine has a 26 inch barrel.👍😃✌️

[@BeetleBuns]

same, it was a nice gun for what it is. I liked it but damn is it ugly, eventually moved on to a nicer one but the deerhunter did its job and did it well.

[@mattstrevig287]

I have this muzzleloader, but with a stainless barrel. Good shooting muzzleloader.

[@swamprat9018]

my first muzzle loader was the cap lock version of that. Basspro ran a special for $60 on them. I was like heck I'll check this junk out for 60....I should have bought them by the dozen at that price. First outing at the range 3 shots in a one inch square on the target...I know it was luck but sure built confidence. That gun taught me the basics of muzzle loading and how important cleaning is. I still have the gun for a loner or fun shooting at the range. Oh I put some oily rags and lead in the stock to balance the gun out and my load is 70gr of clear shot shot the best for me.

[@jameshagerman7681]

I've found that traditions 1:48 twist barrels tend to shoot excellent with Powerbelt Aerolite 250gr over 80 - 100 grains by volume of either Swiss FFG or Pyrodex RS. While not exactly a traditional bullet it is a very consistent performer on game.

[@bobconnor1210]

That was an outstanding bit of marketing on their part. These rifles work well and selling them in blister packs with some basic accoutrements and ball makes it really affordable for the beginner.

[@hazcat640]

Can't wait for the range report. How are things at the coffee shop?

[@ILoveMuzzleloading]

Thank you! It’s good, busy but good. Honest work for honest people is the way I put it.

[@hazcat640]

@@ILoveMuzzleloading Glad to hear it's going well and I wish you continued success.

[@ericduncan3028]

With the PA flintlock only season approaching maybe an options video for those new to flintlocks. Lay out a comparison from these entry rifles, what to look for in a used ML if you are looking online at the broker sites or in a shop and then the step up to a shipped “completed” kit level rifle. All within a couple hundred $ of each other.

[@Wheeled_Fighter]

I had one of those for PA ML season, going back to 1996 when I got it and it was a real introductory rifle. Mine was very accurate and I had very few flash in the pans shooting it. I sold it because I couldn’t buy BP when I moved west, the internet didn’t exist like it does now so I couldn’t just order a 5 lb pack of Black to make it work. It’s a sale I regretted but at the same time I wouldn’t have been able to make a purchase of the investarms Hawken rifle.

[@duybear4023]

I'm eager to see how this performs and cleans!

[@thomas.bill92]

I bought one of these many many years ago as my first muzzleloader, I bought the blister pack starter kit and it came with 2 agate flints. I honestly might just cut mine down to like a 10" barrel for the heck of it. I haven't shot it in years and I used it as a practice run on barrel coning so it wouldn't be much of a loss. Be a hoot out at the range too.

[@hamblinhomestead4046]

I picked up a used one a few months ago, wood stock. Make my own conicals, BP, and short starter. I been told that the ramrod is nylon. This really feels natural when holding it up to my shoulder.

[@TyrusPerises]

Like others have said in the comments, this feels like a decent, affordable entry level flintlock to get people into the field. Glad to hear the out-of-the-box trigger weight feels solid for this sort of price range.

[@ericjohnson8571]

I have the traditions long rifle in percussion and have taken MANY deer with it! Super accurate out to 100 + yards. 1 in 66 twist, I use parched round d ball. I love carrying this gun in the woods!

[@tomvawter4531]

I have the Deer Hunter in both flintlock and percussion with synthetic stocks. They both function reliably with excellent accuracy with both round balls and CVA Powerbelts. The lock has an adjustable sear, so the triggers are outstanding. Along with the Williams adjustable fiber optic sights, these rifles are a great value for deer hunting. I have many muzzleloaders, but the Deer Hunter .50 Cal is outstanding. I wish they offered them also in both 36 cal and 54 cal with slow twists. Mine are also drilled and tapped for a scope. Neither are traditional, but they are excellent hunting rifles.

[@Lemur70]

The barrel looks identical to an Investarm barrel. I bought a Lyman Deerstalker some time ago and they used Investarm barrel with same kind of ram rod. Lyman uses a different lock that I've had no problems with. If it works like the Lyman it'll be a good beginner set up. If I was to do it all over I would rather spend once than twice and get a Kibler or Pedersoli.. I tend to learn the hard way. Lol. Love your channel.

[@BuckskinsBlackPowder]

Investarm made the Lyman guns. Lyman simply put their name brand on it.

[@jacobwilbert1018]

Right n the Investarm locks are copies of the TC locks with the coil spring.

[@BuckskinsBlackPowder]

@jacobwilbert1018 technically tc copied that design from others. It was available long before tc was in the picture.

[@jacobwilbert1018]

@BuckskinsBlackPowder Ok then TC used the Investarm style lock with with the coil spring.😂 Ive just only ever saw them on Thompsons n then Investarm

[@jacobwilbert1018]

@BuckskinsBlackPowder I would be interested for my own knowledge and curiosity on the subject on where or why this started and how long long before Thompson was.

[@Keith-r5l]

Good to see, hearing from you. I bought 2 of them awhile ago for my sons. Just liks T/C . They a good starting point. And yes . LOL., here in PA. we have late season flintlock only. But it is a good start to great sport. Keep up with the good work. And I will have small decaf. with no sugar, please .LOL.

[@jacobwilbert1018]

Not to kick dirt at traditions but they are not on the same planet as the TC rifles were. The Thompson quality was unmatched as far as mass produced muzzleloaders went.

[@Keith-r5l]

@@jacobwilbert1018 I do agree with you. What I mean was to say a mass production is the right way to go for your first flinter.

[@jacobwilbert1018]

@@Keith-r5l I got ya on that 👍

[@TheAnglicanNazarene]

This looks very similar to the TC fire storm, except for some differences with the barrel. The TC fire storm barrel is not octagonal but round and it has a removable breach plug other than that everything looks very similar. The synthetic stock on my firestorm is also gray rather than black. The lock on my fire storm works very well I also don’t understand why so many folks knock on TC or traditions fire-locks.

[@markfair7648]

I love my pa pellet ultra light from tradition. The removable breech plug is awesome for cleaning. Plus it gives you the best choice of propellant to use. Being ,pyrodex, triple 7, black powder loose or pellets. As long as you use black powder in the pan and a priming charge of 4 f in the barrel first to ignite the main charge of 7 or pyrodex or even pellets. Lock throws lots of spark with #5 fint from track of the wolf. I weighted my butt stock by removing the rubber pad and filling the stock with newspapers and old lead shot or bullets. This will fix the balance till it balance on one finger in front of the trigger gard. Balance is a huge problem with plastic stock guns. Especially a muzzleloader. Those are my tips, Ethan . You can use some of them on the deer stocker. Tradition makes great guns. I just wish they made a shot barrels in 20 12 and 10. To incorporate like a Deer and turkey combo muzzleloader with 2 barrels. Merry Christmas, Ethan and family from Canada. Ps if the flint is in the jaws of the lock, it is considered loaded Here in Canada 🇨🇦 😂 All we will have here to hunt with will be flintlock and bows.

[@stevedickhaut7607]

My friend bought a Ttaditions flintlock last year. I think it is the Kentucky model. I love the removable touch hole as I had to remove it 5 times to put some powder in the barrel to blow that ball out. I don't like the ball puller because l can't get it to pull the ball out 95% of the time. Just a grain or two does the trick. Great gun though if you can't spend 1200+.

[@darkwater1967]

It's a FlintGlock! 😂

[@notsosilentmajority1]

Looks great if you want to grab something off the shelf and head straight out to the field without spending a lot of money. Being that it's inexpensive, it makes it easier if it gets banged up a bit when taking it out. The Traditions description states that this flintlock does NOT come with any flint. I'm looking forward to the range video with this flintlock. 👍

[@alphadogpredators]

I have had one of these rifles for around 20 years and they must have improved the trigger because next to my father's TC hawken with the set trigger it feels like your pulling a house before it breaks

[@victortuten4399]

I have that exact model. It doesn't come with a flint and they tell you that in the ads usually. Since they sent you yours you didn't get the benefit of seeing that. It may be bare bones but they shoot great! It will reach out to 100 yards accurately, but like you I don't like to reach out more than 50-60 yards. It took me a while to figure out how to adjust the trigger but you can do it. Mine took a TON of pressure to fire when I first got it. Now it fires Like I want. The lock works pretty darned well. The Black Powder Maniac fired it a time or two and seemed to like it despite it not being a "traditional" flintlock. Being a little shorter than the "real" ones it does have a bit of a kick at heavier loads. Mine shoots best with 70 grains of 3F.

[@Mr.Nogman]

Also, I have a .45 Ardessa Kentucky rifle in percussion and I am getting .45 minie ball as it's a 1:66 twist which the Minie or Burton will just skip over the 1:48 rifling without the plug. Also, thankfully I can use a CVA Kodiak breech plug as I also own a .50 cal Winchester Apex falling block action inline muzzle loader. both I bought used. But, I won't use the Burton on the Winchester without the plug which will help grip the 1:28 rifling.

[@Mr.Nogman]

Though the touch hole liner can be switched with the powder drum plus a cap lock to run it on percussion.

[@ironked]

My first muzzleloader was a .50 percussion CVA Bobcat. Aside from the lock it almost looks identical. CVA and Traditions are basically the same. I nicknamed it my AR-0. Very serviceable. I am looking for a flintlock. I don't want to put the thousands that traditional and historic arms cost. I'll certainly look for that one you have.

[@pilgrimm23]

Thanks Ethan You give an honest impression. Stay warm guy :) -Grey Pilgrim

[@larrycaro1333]

Great job thank you so much. Can’t wait to see the rest of your review.

[@kurtmurray-cameron4354]

Welded breech. 5/8” flint, put a bag of roundballs in the buttstock for balance. Great shooting gun!

[@rjoetting7594]

The biggest complaint I've ever heard about budget flintlocks is the heat treatment of the Frizzen. After as little as 20 to 50 shots, getting a consistent spark isn't going to happen. Changing flints will not help it's the heat treatment and consistent hardening of the frizzin. I've even heard this about pedersoli flintlocks, though I have not experienced this myself. I've had a pedersoli Early American Jaeger rifle 54-caliber flintlock. That's performed excellent. (I also have the percussion conversion for it) that doesn't see much use. My favorite rifle is my jim Kibler Colonial American Longrifle 54-caliber, which has more than exceeded all of my expectations.

[@KR-hg8be]

Seems like you could heat the frizzing in a fire, gas burner or with a torch and then Quench it in oil or water depending on if it's oil hardening or water hardening alloy.

[@victortuten4399]

I have fired mine so many times the grooves in the frizzen simply can't be ground out. It has never failed to spark with a good flint. It has probably more than 1000 shots on it.

[@operationcaddyshackgopher1664]

I plan on getting one. I'm tired of the percussion cap shortages and primer shortages and prices of ammo.

[@TwoStageTrigger]

I've got the percussion deer hunter. Shoots decent enough, about 4 inches at 100 yards, and 1.5 at 50 yards, with a .495 prb I'd like to replace my sights because the front sight is so large it blocks when whole target, and the screws on the rear sight crumbled when I was adjusting the sight.

[@andrewmcmullen1388]

Traditions would be about perfect if they would beef up their lock and flash pan. I love my 2 traditions but both are picky about ignition. My old T/C will go off extremely reliably in all but the worst conditions. Got an old "hawken" from the early 90's and a trapper pistol. Love them both.

[@donwaldroopoutdoors3665]

ive got that one w wood stock , of course it not curly maple , but for a 459$ rifle is what it is , shoots great but it does not come w a flint i was very disappointed ordered it and all the necessary stuff , powder , measure , balls, waxed patches , bore cleaner and when it arrived i was so excited to go try it out !!! then had to wait on a flint ! i k it was excruciating

[@donwaldroopoutdoors3665]

there is a video on my channel of my first shoots and experience

[@jacobwilbert1018]

I get it, but at the same time you are gonna need flints. I wouldnt go beyond my yard depending on only the flint in the jaws.

[@donwaldroopoutdoors3665]

@@jacobwilbert1018 yeah but ive never owned one and just gonna hunt a few times a year w it and i had no idea i wasn’t able to shoot it soon as i received it , kinda like a Christmas bike w no tires , just let down , now ive got 3 different flints lol

[@jacobwilbert1018]

@donwaldroopoutdoors3665 Yea, its also kinda nice if your not exactly sure what to get you can at least take the one that came with it as a comparison or to get you close to what you should be lookin for.

[@RyanMurray-dr4rw]

Great fer young fellas lookin ta get started!

[@VashTheStampede766]

This gives me the same vibes of seeing the modernized Tacticool lever action rifles haha

[@barryjames3688]

I personally feel as though this is a very well made Muzzleloader that will provide the Novice OR Experienced Hunter with many years of service provided the proper care of the Rifle is administered. I know many “Traditionalist” would complain about the synthetic stock but in reality, nothing wrong by buying it & using the gun for its intended purpose!! Great Video Ethan. I personally will be buying one as I believe it will get the job done. Can’t wait to see the results from the range!! And BTW Ethan, don’t forget to tighten the screw up that you loosened to take the barrel off!!! 😅 (Sorry, had to bring that up). Fantastic Video!! Thanks for sharing!!!

[@tjj1171]

The traditions flintlock I ordered this year didnt come with a flint and I believe they never do.

[@dkstudioart]

My kit I ordered didn't either, seems to be normal which is annoying and even a little baffling. My frizzen sucked too and had to buy a deluxe one to get it to spark halfway decent. Bottom line, I don't think I'm going to buy a Traditions flintlock ever again.

[@BuckskinsBlackPowder]

Well if it came with a flint, then I'd expect my percussion to come with percussion caps 😅

[@dkstudioart]

@@BuckskinsBlackPowder flints aren't hazardous materials.

[@BuckskinsBlackPowder]

@dkstudioart $1800 killers don't come with flints from I've seen. Nor do investarm flintlock. How about pedersoli?

[@robgoose8126]

​@@BuckskinsBlackPowderKibler includes a flint with their locks, my traditions didn't.

[@Felkins]

Thank you! If you were just starting would this be your #1 choice? Also, I’m a lefty. I see they have this with a wood stock for us southpaws.

[@ILoveMuzzleloading]

I’m waiting to see how it does in the 100 shot test before I recommend it

[@KR-hg8be]

Been thinking of getting one of these or a pa pellet

[@michaelkaminsky9914]

I suppose I was spoiled growing up with original civil war era weapons that I hunted with and still have to this day, as well as I plan to compete with. Perhaps one day Ill pick one of these days ill pick one of these up to take out in the woods when i want a lighter gun im not as concerned about.

[@donwaldroopoutdoors3665]

ive shot mine w 150 grain round ball w waxed patch @ 100 yards 3 shots 6 inch group

[@anthonyberger225]

I'll stick with my kiblers and my Hawkins tradition's is just turning out just good video

[@timkaldahl]

This is great for Montana. Percussion, flintlock and matchlock only, and no sabots. Cast bullets or roundball. No gas checks either.

[@C-er3ik]

Problem with a review on a product that is supplied by a manufacturer, is that they probably hand picked one just for you, double checked it over and made sure that it was perfect. Not sure that it would be accurately representative of what Joe Shooter would buy right off the shelf. Maybe, but hard to tell. Also, my Woodsman Hawken didn't come with a flint either, I believe that none of them do. I can say that the single trigger in this one looks way better quality-wise than the double triggers on mine. My whole gun was surprisingly great quality, but the double set triggers leave a lot to be desired.

[@KossoffFan]

Regarding the versatile rifle twist, awhile back I read a comment where a guy said something about on the .45 caliber versions you can use a .45-70 cast bullet. Is that something that can actually be done?

[@MrOldclunker]

Normally cast bullets fo4-70 are too hard for muzzleloading.

[@KossoffFan]

@@MrOldclunker Ah, thank you. I guess maybe the guy was casting them himself but the way he said it made it sound like he did it for economical reasons, i.e. just buying them in bulk.

[@flyingfalcon8999]

I was hoping you would review an inexpensive flintlock.

[@ILoveMuzzleloading]

What is your definition of inexpensive? I’ll try to find something

[@KR-hg8be]

There isn't anything cheaper than this?

[@shadetreemech290]

This is a great starter ML for a young person or teenager who doesn't have a lot to spend.

[@MrOldclunker]

@@KR-hg8be Maybe you should go back to the toy cap guns.

[@KR-hg8be]

@@MrOldclunker what?

[@KD0LRG]

I checked the website and even the ready to shoot version doesn't show it has a flint. Maybe flints are like primers and caps and too expensive to include 😂

[@ILoveMuzzleloading]

I don’t mean to harp on it, but every other new in box flintlock I’ve gotten has a flint, so it was surprising 😅

[@snake57]

Hazmat

[@efxanim8tor]

Traditions models hold no candle to T/C - the best made muzzleloaders ever...

[@duybear4023]

I love modern flintlocks. I imagine this is how flintlocks would have evolved had percussion and cartridges never been invented.

[@terrysmith8714]

Where , or who to buy from?

[@jamespugh]

See one of these used in gun shop 305 or so temp to felt stock like 😮 supper light sight where nice like is this a buy in restock ... just didnt like the feel. Got a cva percussion thats like this least fills like stock more weight to it. Just dont use gun munch up dads have used since i was a kid was first muzzloader to went inline. Just think step back flintlock bc stuff hard find for percussion in 209 primmer get their some times munch only use hunt with still another cost. Plus flintlock muzzloader hunting in Pennsylvania open up buck and doe hunting in winter vs just archery hunting or gun for doe in sorten zones.

[@outtathebox5319]

Did you forget to retighten the screw at the end of the barrel or did I miss tthat? Not an expert...just curious

[@ILoveMuzzleloading]

I didn’t tighten it on video as I felt I took too long already

[@Rsoul461]

I have 4 traditions flintlocks. None of them shipped with the flint.

[@snake57]

Primers are a hazmat item 😂

[@hillbilly4christ638]

There is a book out there called Fair Chase. It basically outlines discretion and sportsmanship in pursuit of wild game. I have hunted for many decades and one shot from a rifle such as this is really all that is needed. Of course one needs to be very familiar with their firearm and have tuned their skills to be effective with it. Ethan, you are right, fifty yards is all you really ever need. I have never engaged a deer beyond twenty five yards and have been successful with a muzzleloader every time I pulled the trigger. This type of success is no accident, it takes effort, but with a bare minimum of time anyone can enjoy hunting with a traditional rifle. Cheers.

[@shadetreemech290]

I've read that book years ago. Greetings from SW PA.

[@KR-hg8be]

50 yards might work back east but in the west it would be near impossible outside of coastal WA/OR. There's not that much cover here to sneak behind, 100-150 yards is more like it for "close range" here. I shoot my long rifles to 100 yards to practice with, modern rifles to 250yards or so.

[@danielpowell1637]

My flintlock i got had a bad lock as the cock was to far forward and the flint would hit the barrel when fired along with shatering on the pan. I had to replace the lock completely.

[@user-oz1fd1hz9d]

Shipping without a flint is irrelevent. Do they advertise it as coming with a flint? Do the percussion versions come with a tin of caps? You're buying a firearm and a firearm only. All the other stuff to shoot it and clean it is on the buyer, just like any other guns. My Pedersoli Brown Bess cam with a flint--it also cost a wee bit more than that Traditions did. Good explanations on the barrel take down and twist rate.

[@MrOldclunker]

The barrel is way too short for optimum use of the propellant. But it wouldn't keep me from purchasing one as the lock itself is almost half that much anywhere else.

[@Cruiser777]

Looks like a nice rifle😅

[@timmcconley5985]

Yes they have their place but I have some traditions rifles and a custom rifle both in flintlock and I can say this if traditions would cut the stock differently it would make them more comfortable to shoot as they are the sights don’t come to the eye like they should length of pull is too short . They tend to be a cheek puncher ! The furniture is also too small . With that said they can be accurate and seem to hold up with a lot of shooting . Kit guns from tradition also suck but for the price point it will get you shooting! If you like it you will soon want a better one

[@robertmalmgren4640]

Seems all TC Firestorms were plastic. Still not a fan . Mine is stainless , plastic ,and fiber optic.

[@shelbyseelbach9568]

Springs are made to be compressed. Always cracks me up when people act like leaving then in that state will destroy them. The springs on your car are constantly compressed. Watch springs are constantly wound. They didn't send a flint? They also didn't send lead, wadding, or powder. Some silly complaints in the first five minutes of this video simply had me laughing out loud.

[@jacobwilbert1018]

Its not a complaint, just suprising, outside the norm. I get that people that dont have anything to compare it to arent grasping or misinterpreting the point. Not everyone is gonna know better, sorta thing that comes with experience. You come to expect to see things that would be considered "the norm"

[@LETME-kl9jg]

I have a 12gauge Navy Arms Made in China gun I have loved since the 80's It shoots fake and real powder great I paid $50.00 for it brand new in 1980. It's twin Brother would be the discontinued Tradition's Tracker. No Muzzleloader is worth more than $150.00 Except T/C Hawkins and T/C New Englander,... in 1980 the sold for $250.00 If I can't shoot Black powder I buy at the store then I'll shoot nothing,..... since the 90's when ATF shut down and blackmailed Black Powder stores out of business. Fig Hazmat Fees,... shall not be infringed.

[@JohnHeska-zb1vl]

Back when Obama was president, I purchased a brand new Traditions flintlock Pennsylvania Rifle. It did NOT have a flint in it at the time of purchase. I had to purchase the flints separately.

[@MrOldclunker]

Obama was president of Traditions? How relevant?

[@jackmrozinski337]

traditions flintlocks do not come with flints.

[@kurtmurray-cameron4354]

They never ship them with a flint!

[@JGsgarage_unboxings]

I cant picture it coming with flints. Their cap and ball arms dont come with caps.

[@ILoveMuzzleloading]

Flints do last more than one shot though. I’ve never had a flintlock come without a flint, so it was surprising for me

[@Partimepeasant]

Barrel should be longer, no thank you.

[@smokybob63]

I know this has nothing to do with the video content however it has been bothering me for awhile. Your glasses don’t fit your face size or shape. Everything else is great.

[@ILoveMuzzleloading]

What kind do you recommend?

[@smokybob63]

@ I’m not qualified to make that kind of a recommendation.

[@ILoveMuzzleloading]

Oh.

[@smokybob63]

@ also it’s just the opinion of some dude on the internet so take that with a grain of salt. I love your videos btw

[@ILoveMuzzleloading]

I love comments man, no shade meant! It’s always fun seeing what people think and it helps me improve.

[@desertrat4532]

I bought a traditions flintlock kit. The lock to me is useless. The quality is very poor in my opinion. I have a percussion woodsman that is just fine. But the flinter kit I put together, the lock really cant secure a flint.

[@bkauffman0390]

Poor investment.

[@BuckskinsBlackPowder]

A great investment. I'll put my traditions up against anything, even if I lose.

[@jacobwilbert1018]

​@BuckskinsBlackPowder I will say the made in spain barrels shoot and are hard to be upset about. Its just the rest of it that is a hard sell for me. But i dont just hunt with them once a year n put them away, there are alot of problems to be found in every day use.

[@MrOldclunker]

@@BuckskinsBlackPowder TC shoots circles round anything Traditions puts out. Been to enough ranges and seen the rsults to say that is the case.

[@BuckskinsBlackPowder]

@MrOldclunker lol

[@Mongoloidmike987]

More like fartlock

[@ILoveMuzzleloading]

Literally LOLd