Tragic Ocean Crash : CEO and company on board

When a routine flight carrying a company's CEO ends in tragedy, the search for answers begins. Dive deep into the investigation of the ill-fated Pilatus journey, from the harrowing final moments captured on the CVR to the contributing factors that sealed its fate.
Disclaimer:
The ATC audio featured in this video has been recreated for Flightpath Aviation using official transcripts and synthesized voice technology. These recreations are based on publicly available information and are not recordings of the actual communications between the pilot and air traffic control. The voices are not those of the individuals involved in the accident.

[@JJ1956DC]

This has almost nothing to do with spatial disorientation. This is the predictable result of flying an IFR approach below minimums and trying the braille approach to finding the runway. The minimums are the minimums because they are the minimums. The missed approach procedure is there to save your life, especially when the terrain past the airport is coming up to greet you.

[@katien1684]

Very well said..she announced vfr initially but remained vfr when she should have requested ifr to the nearest airport..basic fundamental rules to stay alive..I agree with spatial disorientation...forgot to fly her instrument s..I also would have requested different call letters. Too much. ---aa. ---aa so on

[@condor5635]

I’m a pilot with 1000 hours flying time CFI instrument single engine. I don’t fly much anymore, but you couldn’t pay me to get into one of the Pilatus PC12s. So many horror stories on KZbin about these planes.

[@TroyHoffman-7m2]

The horror is the pilots flying them not the aircraft. The PC 12 is a fantastic aircraft. Litterally, we are training pilots who have no business flying a very complex aircraft in the flight levels. And I'm very sorry but even 4k hours doesn't make you an expert, specifically single pilot low IFR flight regimes in complex aircraft. Years ago you EARNED upgrades through experience. Today it is more about a pulse in the left seat than experience.

[@condor5635]

@@TroyHoffman-7m2 totally agree but I still would not get in one as much as I like flying

[@TroyHoffman-7m2]

@condor5635 understandable. I can't agree, as it is a state of piloting skills today, not the aircraft. I applaud your opinion, but pilot to pilot.....avoid the "knee-jerk" reaction. Keep flying my friend, we need more safety minded pilots.

[@Historyfreak-f7o]

It’s the pilots, not the plane.

[@ZeppelinR101]

👍👍👍👍👍💯

[@GBEdmonds-j1i]

Flying into this crap tells you the competency level of this pic. Sex doesn't matter, you don't fly braille in an airplane. 2000 hrs or 30k hours, you vector to your alternate!!

[@motorv8N]

Thanks for this - obviously you put a great deal of time into creating this episode. I really like the visuals and integration of ATC. That’s a very unforgiving coastal environment. It’s heartbreaking they didn’t observe proper procedures. I wonder if that was the norm for that company and that day they finally got bit.

[@flightpathaviation1]

You're very welcome! I do invest a lot of time and effort into creating each video, and I appreciate your recognition of that. It's indeed a tragic incident, and it's important to learn from such events to improve safety in aviation. While it's hard to generalize about the company's procedures based on one incident, safety is paramount, and any lapses can have severe consequences. Thank you for watching and sharing your thoughts!

[@LonelyBetters]

@@flightpathaviation1Thank you so much. You did a great job!

[@jamesgraham6122]

Contrary to the narrative, this aircraft did not have a highly experienced crew on board. The second pilot had a total of just over 300 hours, that's way low for even a private pilot never mind one engaged in professional aviation. The fact that the captain was handling the radio means she was either allowing the second pilot to do the flying, highly unlikely considering the weather conditions, or she was the handling pilot and also taking care of the radios. This would be perfectly legal as the aircraft is rated for single-pilot operation but it does increase the workload significantly. There's no comment regarding the pilot's total IFR flying experience, being Instrument Rated does not guarantee that someone is competent to fly instruments, it requires constant practice, South Africa, being a country where instrument flying is far less of a requirement, it's more than likely that the pilot was not regularly practicing instrument flying. In addition, the NDB approach required at that airport would require an extremely high 'minima' making it highly unlikely to have been successful, the temptation to fly low over the sea and make a visual approach is likely to have been a factor, having the CEO on board may or may not have added pressure to 'get the job done'.. always something to be resisted.

[@Spyke-lz2hl]

This is why you don’t hop on a plane with a non professional, hobby pilot. They think they’re good, but they’re not, they can’t be, they just don’t know what they don’t know.

[@isabellind1292]

Or when there's ATControllers on duty who don't know what's going on... Did that flight land? ATC: Sure, why not...

[@RMR1]

I'm not sure what you mean by "non professional hobby pilot." The 32-year-old PIC held a commercial license with 2,600 hours of total time, and was type rated in the Pilatus PC-12, Boeing 767-300 and several other aircraft. While she did not hold an ATP license, she was nonetheless a professional pilot working in the corporate and charter aviation sectors. That doesn't sound like someone who's a non professional hobby pilot to me, but maybe I'm missing something.

[@flybob63]

The fact that the air force rescue refused to fly into weather this pilot flew into speaks volumes. Minimums are minimums for a reason and the pilot should know her own personal limitations that often should be stricter than those imposed by aviation authorities. The fact that they were discussing an upcoming business meeting enroute with CEO actually flying the airplane makes me wonder if getting to that meeting made the decision to fly a very biased one in favor of business and less about safety.

[@3865ron]

This would have been much better with a human narrator.

[@ATT-02]

Most humans live their lives robotically, including the pilots on this flight. If they would’ve taken their own lives more seriously, instead of keeping the “big wigs” important schedule on time. They’d still be alive. So in my opinion, the narration works.

[@anitacarswell3736]

Yes, this shit CHAT GPT script sucks too

[@SwampCityRadio1974]

@@anitacarswell3736 Full of padding and fluff. Total crap.

[@davidwheatcroft2797]

Trying to fly VFR in IMC goes sideways. Happened to me.....pressing on, suddenly speed going way up, altimeter spinning, engine howling.....terror! Pulling back just making things worse. Wanting to quit but death seconds away....."Power back to idle to reduce descent; roll wings level using ADI; PULL!" Soaring up at 300kts, ALIVE! Surprised myself - I stood fast, cool. Flew again the next day, knowing I had faced the worst and won. CAVU skies all!

[@BigEightiesNewWave]

Jesus, you scared the heck out of me!

[@PInk77W1]

So u did a death spiral and straightened out ?

[@davidwheatcroft2797]

@@PInk77W1 Yes! I pulled back on the stick, and it just made things worse - more G, faster...the altimeter spinning, ASI rising fast; rate of climb/descent pegged at -2,000ft/min; revs thru the roof; the NOISE! Wanting to panic, but my superb RAF training meant I did not, "Power back to idle....." Soaring up ALIVE! You have no idea how that felt - was like walking on air. NEVER panic!

[@tinusblaauw4092]

I usually don't like commenting on speculation. I knew the Pic. She was an awesome person and was good in her job. Please don't confuse commercial with professional pilot. Whatever the reason was for the accident, it was a series of circumstances that lined up, aka Swiss cheese model. My condolences still to the family. To this day I miss her, her laugh and her awesome sense of humor. RIP

[@drats1279]

She made some rookie mistakes that killed six people who were depending on her. A person has got to know their limitations.

[@geotj58]

Hobbist gets you killed!

[@belginsaglam]

In your videos you must include the names and photos of all the people involved in the tragic event. If you do so, we make sure that you are describing a real event. We avoid watching a fictional film

[@belginsaglam]

At the beginning of your videos you should have the names and photos of those involved in the tragic event. It is good to document everything at the beginning

[@scottmoseley5122]

Great job ! I had never heard of this accident before. I appreciate that you are open to feedback for improvement. Subscribing now and looking forward to more.

[@flightpathaviation1]

Thank you so much for the kind words and for subscribing. I'm working on the next video, aim to upload coming Sunday...

[@kcrsradio]

Ditto.

[@davidmangold1838]

The captain was very low time, as pic in a Pilatus. Also, her right-seat-filler had such low time, that they couldn’t effectively help the PIC.

[@Bren39]

True. He was basically there to gain experience. The female pilot was, I assume, flying and also doing the radios. Even though raw ndb approaches are challenging.. With modern day maps display.. It shouldn't be a big problem. These approaches have relatively high minimums.. About 800 agl. So a stabilized approach, go around and divert shouldn't be too difficult. And yes 3k hrs of experience is not seasoned.. But an average should be able to divert safely. Auto pilot on, slow the plane down, and get a good situational awareness of where you are and also plans.

[@bent5980]

I like the way they explain the 1st officer being carefully selected for this mission and was also a professional with 351 hours!!! Right

[@abdimaliksharif1586]

The Pilatus is approved for single pilot ops, they just have a SIC onboard due to insurance

[@TheDrednaught]

Very well presented RIP 🪦 all who died

[@zachwayne2044]

The audio on this video is a wild ride

[@dmimcg]

Low time bad pilots. what could go wrong? A co-pilot with 300 hours????????

[@hb1338]

You have no evidence that either pilot was "bad". Even if one or both of them made mistakes on this flight (which is unknown), that does not necessarily make them bad pilots. Are you perhaps a mysogynist ?

[@dmimcg]

Good point, what do I know. I'm just an ATP with 20,000 hours- never went to Med school, so no, I'm not a gynecologist @@hb1338

[@whdbnrm3023]

@@hb1338 Evidence is very clear and straight forward. Doesn't take a genius to see it. Plane that landed before them had difficulty, but the pilot aborted the landing, took the proper action and landed without any problem. That is the difference between a great pilot and a dead pilot. Name calling doesn't help your argument.

[@dmimcg]

We have no evidence that there is a God and 7 billion people know there is a God. We have no evidence that Joe Biden has a brain either. Your point?@@hb1338

[@Jay-Leigh863]

Is a 300 hr copilot in an aircraft certified for single pilot operation such a big deal?

[@Commander-McBragg]

Strange form of dialogue in SA, no?

[@AcousticGuitarsForMe]

I wish all real communications were this good and as easy to understand.

[@leighc2982]

Robot voice?? I say NO.

[@MrSuzuki1187]

2,262 hours is not a seasoned pilot by any stretch!!

[@accuratealloys]

Depends on the mission. Stare at a gps screen for 8 hours a day for 10 years and landing on a 5000’ paved lit runway or hand fly for 2 hours and land on a river bank. I’ll trust the bush pilot with 2000 hours over a 10,000 hr airline bus driver any day.

[@keng7758]

As you say Mr. know-it-all…😂

[@ATT-02]

Why is it always blue skies and beautiful, the day after the accident? ☹️

[@jennifercunningham8834]

Only God knows😢

[@conqururfear2]

There is an old saying if you die in a thunderstorm your Funeral wil be held on a sunny day 😮

[@HoChiMinhForTheWinh]

Cause idi ots think they can fly in below minimum visibility levels. RESCUERS however? Rescuers tend to know their limits and live within them.

[@PInk77W1]

Weather changes

[@HoChiMinhForTheWinh]

@@conqururfear2 thanks for the quote!

[@LonelyBetters]

This is so awkwardly, and even weirdly, written.

[@motorv8N]

Sometimes the worst thing is getting away with a shortcut the first time. Then deviation from SOPs becomes the norm. The longer you get away with it, the more complacency sets in. Before long no one recalls when it was anything but the deviation. Not saying that’s the case here but I’ve seen it before.

[@LanceRomanceF4E]

Why are we seeing so many female pilots involved in fatal accidents recently? 😏

[@wallywally8282]

ANYONE can get vertigo, professional or otherwise!

[@megadavis5377]

Wallywally8282, yes, you are so very, very correct. Anyone can be struck with vertigo. And it comes upon you quite suddenly... It has happened to me several times while flying in clouds during my 53-years in commercial aviation. The secret to success while fighting vertigo is this: C O N C E N T R A T I O N on your instruments. Simply, put your head down and look at nothing but your instruments. Don't even attempt to look outside through the windscreen. Each time in the past when I suddenly felt like my head was spinning and I was losing my balance I noted that I was flying in clouds with some intermittent forward visibility with occasional sunlight and patches of blue sky. There was just enough visibility and focused light to give my brain a suggestion of position and direction, but those indicators were misleading - my instruments told other stories from what my eyes had told me... So, I had to bury my head each time into the instrument panel and eschew whatever signals my brain was receiving from my ears, windshield and stomach. Most anyone can be trained to disregard everything but one's flight instruments, but it takes mental discipline and a little bit of time. I have now over 30,000 hours total and 9,000 hours of logged instrument time but can still easily fall victim to spatial disorientation if I lose my concentration.

[@ggeorge4144]

That's why when getting your rating you should fly in IFR as much as possible. I got vertigo and found out exactly how to beat it. That's why I have flown thousands of hours single pilot IFR and now I am in my 80's and still alive to talk about it.

[@donaldduck7531]

Good but can u work on the sound balance to ensure narrative isn't obliterated by the noise

[@flightpathaviation1]

Thank you for your feedback! I’m dedicated to continuously improving all aspects of my content.

[@themtoniraniremaxbroker2447]

Well Done Sir!! Best Wishes for all your future endeavours. Many thanks.

[@flightpathaviation1]

Thank you for the kind words. I appreciate your support in watching my content. Stay tuned for more upcoming videos. All the best..

[@thejasonknightfiascoband5099]

aside from hearing someone say "Alpha Alpha" 9832746985237649857236459872649876342 times it was a great video.

[@stephenauty2402]

😆

[@mattwoody1089]

How is a civilian able to call Air traffic control at any point or time

[@charlie1571]

I would not have got on that plane with low hours pilot.

[@BBHoffman-ur1oy]

I'm not a pilot, but it sure seems like what they're really saying is that due to cloud cover she kept going lower and lower in an attempt to 'see something', until she eventually flew into the ocean.

[@homiedclown2623]

Imagine having to say “Golf Alpha Alpha” every time you talk

[@drats1279]

What call sign would you like them to use? obviously not a pilot.

[@henryupjohn9700]

300 hours is not a SEASONED PILOT ‼️ Air transport pilot Minimum required hours 1500 North America

[@CommonSense-ProphetJohn]

I have about 200 hours flying time and about 2,000 hours youtube videos time 😎. My instructors took me several times into cloud where I had to fly straight and level to get the feel of IFR. I never had to land, and if I did have to I probably wouldn't be around to comment here. My question is this; if fighter pilots get to 2,000 hours flying time, as far as I know, that is pretty good experience? SO why would a civilian pilot with 2,000 hours not be experienced? I agree that the pilot with a few hundred hours is a definite newbie .... but that's why a "seasoned pilot" with 2,000 plus hours is the PIC. My experience on youtube videos 😜 shows many accidents resulting from spatial disorientation ........ even on "seasoned" aircraft.

[@dmimcg]

Because 2000 hours over years is not the same as 2000 hours over a couple of years.

[@CommonSense-ProphetJohn]

@@dmimcg Good point ..... that makes sense. Cheers!

[@jamesb7807]

And military pilots are living and breathing aviation 24/7. Trained by a strict regime, no exception.

[@palacio802]

I am a commercial pilot, with a military background. The number of flight hours in civilian life and in military life cannot be compared. Specially because of something very surprising that happens in civil aviation. New pilots quickly obtain an instructor licence and begin working as instructors with very low income for "time building". I was a SAR pilot and I collected the bodies of a crew in which the instructor was 21 years old and the student pilot 18. This never happens in the armed forces. Every hour of flight is meticuolusly prepared, and the instructors are the best and most experienced pilots in the unit, not some young man doing hours. This, apart from the filter that exists at the entrance in the Air Force, where only the best are selected as pilots and many fall by the wayside. While in civil aviation obtaining a license is a matter of time and money.

[@lyingcat9022]

Might I suggest getting MSFS2020 on your PC then getting a Pilotedge subscription for a few months! :) You can get hundreds of hours flying the actual IFR procedures with real life ATC sitting safely in your living room. And in some ways the sim is actually harder to fly than within a real cockpit. My first flight in IMC as a Private Student I was able to plan the entire IFR flight, fly the whole thing by hand in the actual soup, made all the IFR communications myself with minimal help from my CFII, shot 2 approaches by hand in IMC… one being a fairly challenging RNAV approach with a turn at the IAF(initial approach fix) and another turn at the FAF(final approach fix) while you are already on glide path, at 1600 still in the clouds. I mention this not to show off but to illustrate how easy it was since I’d already “flown” that exact departure and approach’s dozens of times in the sim. Flying the actual 172 felt surprisingly easy. Now I would never think about trying that without a CFII on board before actually getting an Instrument rating. But I’d already drilled so much of the procedural stuff and flying by instrument only, it was surprisingly easy to ignore whatever I was feeling from the plane(which wasn’t really anything too disorienting) and simply trust the instruments. I thought it would feel weird or something but it ended up feeling normal and comfortable. Plus flying through some slightly open puffy clouds mid flight was one of the coolest experiences I’d ever had flying. I’ll remember that first time for ever :)

[@martinchandler71]

Whats with all the negative with female pilots? i'm a bloke and women have been flying aircraft for decades. Just look at ww2 and the transport auxillary and what they did for the cause. Really ignorant comments. Decisions are decisions. Should never have gone to manual control. High workload for descent and then approach, as well as flying manually, increases the stress and risk tenfold. Was the weather forecast in the TAFs? ANY OF YOU PRIVATE OR COMMERCIAL..IF YOU HAVE ANY DOUBTS...ANY...DIVERT TO A SAFER OPTION.

[@X737_]

It’s simple. Masochist arseholes will remain just that

[@ggeorge4144]

It's because when the chips are down women fall apart and start balling.

[@scottpatrick8645]

My only criticism is your description of the pilots as capable and experienced. In reality their experience in terms of hours pales in comparison to many pilots. And the crash report clearly points out the kinds of mistakes made by pilots who are not capable and experienced.

[@jacquesleroux5069]

So sad

[@ronoconnor8971]

Way to much talking and not enough information sharing

[@eat_a_dick_trudeau]

Talking is how the information is delivered. What do you want? Puppets? Maybe cocomelon is more your speed.

[@FahimMotoGP]

Only 32 years old I wouldn't call really a professional

[@accuratealloys]

How old do you think fighter pilots are?

[@PetloverTN]

Who were the victims ?

[@MrSuzuki1187]

Professional pilots do not get spatial disorientation/vertigo. I fly the Pilatus professionally in my retirement after 29 years with the airlines. None of the professionals I have ever flown with got vertigo while flying on instruments. Also, the PC-12 has a very good autopilot and autopilots don't get vertigo. As I said previously, 2,262 hours does not constitute a seasoned pilot.

[@arthurbrumagem3844]

@@R.BOWERSin what way was he incorrect. Just curious as a pilot myself

[@arthurbrumagem3844]

@@R.BOWERS very true , and hours mean little. Ten thousand hour pilots crash. I had spatial disorientation once when working on my instrument rating - it suck’s. Luckily my instructor was there to take over until I overcame it. I don’t have AP in my plane so I’m more aware of it than some .

[@deaf2819]

Did professional pilots somehow get subbed in for the word robots here ? You’re full of shit lol. Any human can get spacial disorientation in fact I’ll say they will. Maybe you meant to say IFR could’ve helped those things but you absolutely came here shitting on fellow airmen ( and I doubt you’re a pilot because they tend to NOT do that knowing how quickly they can be the next accident regardless of how safe they are. Do yourself a favor if you have a pilots license and turn it in before your arrogance costs someone their life clown!

[@ThePoochala]

We humans have physiological feedback where anyone can get spatial disorientation, professional pilots not excluded. The difference is that instrument trained pilots use the instruments to override those unreliable inputs coming from the “seat of our pants”. If I can’t see out the windscreen, then I have made a conscious decision to bet my life on my instruments, no longer basing the flight on visual cues.

[@Tvuvtctoj46fck]

@mrsuzuki1187 you suffer from the same arrogance that killed over 500 people at Tenerife. "We don't make those mistakes" has killed many times and is absolutely horsesh*t. Anyone can make any mistake at any time and if you think you're an exception than you're probably a very narcissictic person who just got lucky a lot.

[@Hawker900XP]

Low time crew.

[@williambeckham8350]

Did anyone notice they started out in a pilatus then in mid trip they were in a Cessna Citation? I had more hours in my Mooney,instrument rated, than the female PIC..

[@hillcrestvideoprod1]

No the Cessna referenced a flight into the same airport earlier in the day who also faced tough wx conditions.

[@pauldunn5978]

They were talking about and visualizing a Citation CJ2 ZS-PAJ that had also flown from Lanseria earlier and had weather issues at Plattenburg.

[@rogerturner5504]

You weren't concentrating were you William!

[@Swilla12]

Why didn't she look at the ADI? It would have at some point showed she was heading in a nose down direction.

[@brianmuhlingBUM]

A pity the BGFX is so loud as it makes the narration too hard to understand. 😢

[@wjatube]

She was a "professional veteran" pilot with 3,000 hours. Good lord.

[@BigEightiesNewWave]

Would Garmin synthetic Vision prevent this?

[@PInk77W1]

9 is a lot. Kobe had 9

[@haroldbrown1998]

Professional radio talk.

[@neatstuff1988]

NOT!

[@scottw5315]

Well, the controller talking about the next day's flight was stupid. Talk about it on the ground. Also, all the please and thank you's were unnecessary.

[@kurtlesmcbee9766]

Being polite to ATC and vice versa is a banner of professionalism, and doesn't tie up the line needlessly if kept very short

[@scottw5315]

Nope, that's what Roger, Wilco, Out are for. Here in the US we sneak a good day in at the end. More than that is a waste of time.@@kurtlesmcbee9766

[@ggeorge4144]

As a professional pilot with thousands of hours of flight time, much of it single pilot IFR, I would not trust a female pilot to fly me anywhere. You can call me whatever you want, but I am alive and that's what counts.

[@paulazemeckis7835]

MCP.

[@arturo468]

African aviation at its finest. Avoid if possible is the best advice.

[@Jay-Leigh863]

I take it you're a pilot with huge experience flying in Africa? Share your qualifications and experiences then.

[@CandyGirl44]

I think SA has got one of the best commercial flying records in the world. Exactly how much African travelling have you done?

[@nzdefrag]

Hard to get past the robot voice. I made it up to 02:31 Dislike and no subscribe. Adios.

[@flightpathaviation1]

My apologies for your experience. This was one of my earlier videos, and I’m continually working to improve my content. I’ve since switched to using my own voice for the narration from 2024 onwards.

[@chuckstewart7331]

357 flying hours ???

[@konewone361]

That’s for the co pilot. The PIC had over 2000 hours.

[@lst141]

What about 357 hours?, everybody pilot at a Time of their Life had them.

[@Matte-p3r]

this seems very similar, i wonder what makes me feel this💀💀💀

[@flightpathaviation1]

I presume you've watched the video I uploaded yesterday. I've updated the thumbnail to make it more appropriate. Thank you for the support.

[@PInk77W1]

Kobe Bryant

[@tomtom6319]

what the hell is zulu time

[@dermick]

Zulu time is another term for UTC - the global standard time which you might have heard as GMT or Geenwich time. It's the reference time for this planet's various timezones.

[@lyingcat9022]

It’s the time zone for the 0 degrees longitude point on the map.

[@X737_]

As well as what other have said when comma are a little unclear saying Zulu is clearer than the alternatives. We use Zulu time in the military as well on signals

[@Bren39]

This is South Africa.. Home of the Zulus. So it's another term for the local time.

[@rogerturner5504]

Google would have saved you the trouble of posting this rather dumb comment.

[@ti8966]

Cfit and general aviation .

[@jasonbrown2060]

Rookie mistake

[@juliojames5986]

Seems incompetence by atc also, miss information….The airplane was capable in those conditions, not relied on. Ashamed whatever the cause or causes !

[@billdurham8477]

Lots of splashes there??? ATC already is ready to roll rescue

[@palacio802]

Someday someone should say something about the high rate of accidents among women as airline pilots, associated with basic piloting errors. Here they were woman + woman.

[@laurenurban3942]

A pilot is a pilot, regardless of their gender. Lots of men have crashed planes too due to incompetence or lack of training or that huge EGO! Your comment is completely ridiculous and sexist.

[@RMR1]

Good presentation. I'd subscribe if you'd lose the awful AI narration and take the time, or pay someone, to narrate it properly.

[@johnconway6833]

Esconcing? Harbinger? Jeez, how about just talking normally. Put me off completely.

[@flightpathaviation1]

Thanks for the feedback. I understand that my vocabulary choices might come across as excessive. I'm actively working on making refinements for upcoming videos.

[@kurtlesmcbee9766]

@@flightpathaviation1 Don't let low IQ individuals dissuade you from using normal vocabulary

[@BridMhor]

Get a dictionary you eegit.

[@fredliperson9171]

DEI?

[@superg3962]

Horribel AI narration- NOT subscribing!

[@flightpathaviation1]

My apologies for your bad experience. This was one of my earlier videos, and I’m continuously working to improve the quality of my content. Starting in 2024, I began using my own voice for narrations. I hope you’ll consider giving my latest videos a chance.

[@MrSkill_420]

you had me at "she..."

[@rohang3105]

lol don't act like men don't crash planes like every day on here. Lol statistically men crash planes at higher rates than women.

[@stephenauty2402]

Women make fantastic pilots and don't carry the burden of a male ego. Many men have crashed perfectly good aircraft into terrain over the years killing thousands of people.

[@sirhcelah]

red flag pilot a woman

[@rogernadal3999]

I would be nervous boarding and seeing female pilot. Makes me wonder what pushed her to that position

[@konewone361]

There’s nothing wrong with having a female pilot. Male or female, they can both make mistakes.

[@whdbnrm3023]

@@konewone361 Oh let's see. Remember the first Air Force female pilot (Kara Hultgreen) to kill herself trying to land on an aircraft carrier and then her family sued the air force for promoting her to that level. I prefer a hard drinking old male pilot over a lefty female pilot that can't define what a woman is.

[@rogernadal3999]

@@konewone361 man are better in high stress situations. airlines like delta and American are pushing giving incentives for female pilots. The same with female road cops or female infantry soldiers. Creates more danger

[@dermick]

@@konewone361 So true. I could give many examples of outstanding female pilots, but I doubt it would change anyone's ideas, sadly.

[@waseemfareed2612]

UFC ... what women fight and men. That will tell you how the gender is wired.

[@sludge8506]

Get-there-itus. 😢😢😢

[@chinoman7234]

As a 120 hr pilot. This sucks

[@charlescook4877]

So sad when rich people die.

[@christobosman5710]

Good to here how clear messages came through on the radio , everything crystal clear for everybody to understand following the instructions , white South Africans just do it better