After 4,000 Miles, My Surprising Criticisms of the Land Cruiser!

[@jbandt]

I feel like he gets rid of this within a year, much like the diesel and hybrid wranglers.

[@Nachovalenti899]

6 months. I think Brad is a great guy but he is manageable and capricious. Ass I see ass I want. We have already seen it with other vehicles, he was very happy the first week and after a few months he got fed up.

[@doublebackagain4311]

Bet he misses that diesel Wrangler fuel range tho-

[@jeffk464]

@@doublebackagain4311 4cyl turbo diesels seem pretty perfect for overlanding.

[@CodyLeon]

@@jeffk464only one left is the Sierra AT4 starting in the 70k range sadly. A diesel bronco would be bad ass in my opinion

[@TheCajunGaijin]

@@CodyLeon you can get an Silverado ZR2 3.0 Diesel. What's wrong that that? From what I've read for awhile now the 3.0 has gotten better fuel mileage than the other half ton trucks.

[@EricJohnson3753]

I think that would be a great video to talk about how and when to carry firearms throughout your travels, especially when crossing borders.

[@backwoodstherapy]

Gotta know the laws of where you are from, where you are going, and where you’re passing through. Also, state vs federal land and national parks may all have different laws. It can be a pain.

[@carbonking53]

​@backwoodstherapy Many western states are Constitutional Carry states that supercedes any permit issues. Also, carrying on BLM land is no issue and neither is carrying in National Parks. Provided you are following the state laws in those states and do not carry inside federal buildings in National Parks or other federal lands.

[@rik999]

Also important is how to defend from attacking wildlife. There's lots of information on bears but big cats, rutting ungulates and in my area, wild piggies are a problem. I carry bear spray but wonder about the utility of a handgun (as a backup to bear spray).

[@ricks4447]

Agree, firearms topic would be good.

[@irvineyoung4545]

If going from the lower 48 to Alaska you have a ferrie to Alaska, otherwise no guns.

[@mozaic_channel]

I don’t know what to make of this. My old 97 80 gets similar fuel economy if I go through the trouble of converting the transfer case to 2wd and locking front hubs, can seat 7 with super easy to remove seats, has a tailgate, sliding rear windows for the dogs, leather seating, moonroof, radio can be upgraded to touchscreen + latest gizmos, brake controller can be installed, solid front axles front and rear, ground clearance for days on 33x10.5, locking rear and front diffs and a super reliable drivetrain. I was saving up for the new landcruiser, but help me make the case. I just seem to land on a 60k investment for less truck. Feels like a 10k investment to rejuvenate the 80 is a better deal.

[@74surfboards]

My preference is sticking with the old. Been seeing warranty issues online re: transmissions and hybrid systems for the turbo/hybrid 4 bangers... really alarming warranty issues for very low milage Toyota vehicles. I've owned an FJ40 an FJ55, now have a 5th Gen 4Runner with 135k miles. The FJ's were unstable, heavy duty beasts off road but def heavy, under powered for freeway hills, and tended to overheat. 5th Gen 4Runner does everything Brad talks about in this video, pretty hard trails, bigger tank and better gas milage than the turbo/hybrid 4 banger, very comfortable and predictable on the freeway for a high clearance/low range 4x4 AND proven track record for reliability all with AC, ABS disc brakes, and 8 speaker surround sound and power windows/door locks. I don't ever see giving up on the 4.0 V6 for a turbo/hybrid 4 banger.

[@mozaic_channel]

@@74surfboards yeah, I guess i’ll keep the 80 and spend a little to keep it on the road. I don’t think the new offering is what the community asked for. I think I would prefer for ‘influencers’ to state that plainly instead of ‘trying to make it work’. C’mon Toyota, what focus groups are you listening to?

[@qx4n9e1xp]

No new car is an "investment" unless you're keeping it for at least 25+ years and keeping it low miles & good condition, so that you can sell it for more as a collectible. If you want a newer Land Cruiser & you're worried about money, buy one that's only a few years old, so it has had the depreciation hit already.

[@imnotusingmyrealname4566]

New Toyota trucks are a fail. Watch The Tinkerer's Adventure's latest video. He is a Toyota fanboy but can't deny all the new Toyota trucks are weaker than the predecessors.

[@LostandFoundTravel]

Right there with ya on $$$ vs $ into the '97. I've been replacing whole systems at a time as I find enough OEM to do it at once. So close. Even my list of smalls is small. Safe travels.

[@J_Medlin]

Why would you go wider on the tire? Narrow is better for turning radius, suspension cycle clearance, traction, fuel mileage and component longevity.

[@charliemcawesome5012]

Falling for tropes, like a lot of other guys. It’s actually a safety issue. After you lower the ground pressure so much with the wider tires, your performance on water, snow and ice suffers to an extreme degree. As for the broken windshield, I have a 1958 and have the same fears. A lot of them can be resolved in 2 ways. Drive like a nut and be in front. OR on the cruise control turn on the max distance and stay well behind. I’ve got 8700 on mine and so far not even a kiss. Though I know it’s coming.

[@donhappel9566]

@@charliemcawesome5012 I'm with you on the larger tire for floatation 100%. I've heard so many people talk about a narrow tire 'cutting down to a solid surface' in snow or such. All I can think is they've never actually been snow wheeling where there simply is no bottom. I wheel mostly in the Sierra where 'bottom' might be 10 feet down and the snow itself isn't that light/dry fluff you can push aside like water. No, it would rip a plastic factory bumper right off if you tried to push several feet of it around. And most modern vehicles are extremely heavy hence needing all the floatation they can get. That said, idk that I'd put a wider tire on that particular platform. It will never be a hard core wheeler just because of what it is. As a 'soft roader' or 'overlander' it should be pretty good, but it's easy to over-build trying to make it into something it's just not and start hurting other aspects of it's performance such as was mentioned above like the already poor fuel economy and component longevity. (the beef may be handled with the suspension upgrades but the hit from larger/heavier tires can't be avoided).

[@technom3598]

​@@charliemcawesome5012get clear Plex

[@mikefoster7085]

Narrow taller tyres give a larger footprint than wider ​@donhappel9566

[@MarkTrades__]

@@charliemcawesome5012 They sell some ceramic protective films that go on the OUTSIDE of windshields that can help with this. Exoshield is one brand

[@deanh7190]

Disappointing fuel mileage. Might as well go for the GX550 and have more power, no battery intrusion and more room for the spare.

[@AlphaOmega333]

Availability and production on the 550 is really tough right now compared to the LC 250.

[@Naminorite]

Wish we had the ability to get the Lexus set up but with Land Cruiser front face/lights.

[@2URLex]

@@Naminorite it’s a Toyota heritage, not a Lexus heritage. If everyone had round headlights then everything would look the same and boring lol other makes as well.

[@willrouse2351]

Friend of mine has a built GX and it's pretty awesome.

[@ELECTRICEYEMEDIA]

My 2022 supercharged TRD Pro 4 Runner with 33" got 13 mpg if I was lucky and my 2024 LC FE gets 18-21 mpg with similar power output.

[@LunarRoamer]

I just got a Land Cruiser and going from my work to home in stop and go traffic through the city my average was 24.9 MPG. Pretty impressed and my average in the 3g Tacoma on 33's was 16.

[@ajipaul8303]

agree, the video seems like jeep promo

[@MrCovert23]

Toyota really screwed up all the TNGA-F platform vehicles by only giving an 18 gallon gasoline tank

[@deanh7190]

21 gal. on the non-hybrid GX...why not move spare and install that tank.

[@jbcope1000]

I really want to know of the 32 gal tundra tank will fit the Tacoma long bed. On 35s I'm getting about 200 miles a tank.

[@snn517]

@@jbcope1000 damn really that bad?

[@jbcope1000]

@snn517 215 miles estimated by the trip computer. That's for city driving. I get about 17 to 19 on the freeway. I'm running 35s, if I stepped down to 33s it would probably be alot better

[@ELECTRICEYEMEDIA]

Turbo/Hybrid is getting better mpg so don't need the 21 gallon tanks anymore.

[@njaphs]

In my country we have the Diesel.... it gas a 29 gallon tank and do 34mpg if you ask it nicely.

[@daynelyn-cook3364]

Same in Jamaica

[@4WDisLife]

tested 24mpg on the freeway from stock land cruiser 250 series. If you are putting bigger tires, 20mpg would be on a good day.

[@hamedrahi9801]

You may want to consider moving the spare tire to the rear bumper and add an auxiliary tank in the spare tire housing.

[@MC-qg5nu]

How would you do that on a lift gate?

[@ShadowBend]

@@MC-qg5nu The bumper mount would swing out.

[@deanh7190]

@@ShadowBend Victory 4x4 has one.

[@deanh7190]

21gal on the non-hybrid GX...why not move spare and install that tank.

[@Openmindpureheart]

The bumper is plastic

[@hodad200]

LRA makes extended fuel tanks for the 200 series (up to 40 gallons), best to check if they’re coming with something for the 250. For bumpers check with Dissent Offroad and Slee. Camburg arm looks like a uniball, not a ball joint.

[@Robert8455]

I think the big wide tires isn't the best choice and the wrong direction. A narrow tire would be better. I certainly don't like the lowered clearance on the spare. 13 mpgs... and no V8. Nope.

[@Romu1us]

i dont even have any form of overlanding/off roading car. I do like the vibe but your videos are jus very well done. Great dialogue, great pacing/footage. And you seem to be a transparent chill dude. Def keep up the good work!!

[@evveeess925]

We are getting a few engine failures on the diesel V6 in Australia. Mostly to do with 0W-20 oil specified - ie: Conrod bearings failing and seizing engines. Plenty of KZbin describing the issue. Toyota are not what they used to be.

[@TheCajunGaijin]

13-14mpg with one of these is hilarious. It's not much better than my 80 series on 35s. That seals the deal for me.

[@MJ-fj9yv]

Toyota serving its climate control masters with turbos. Has nothing to do with value it’s a shame!

[@is6566]

I am not disagreeing, the turbos are compliance engines but what could Toyota do? They either comply and stay in business in the US and Europe or they leave the markets.

[@MJ-fj9yv]

@@is6566 3.2-liter V6 non-turbo - Cherokee, 3.8-liter V6 engine - Telluride, 3.5-liter naturally aspirated V6 - Pilot, 5.3L - Tahoe. Don’t be so eager to please the woke masters.

[@is6566]

I bet all those are going turbo on the next round of model redesign. Otherwise they will run afoul of the newest emission standards.

[@chibbyylol]

wonder if he's just constantly driving up hill lol. that's laughably bad. fuelly has 8 vehicles with about 15k total mileage in fuelups and its about 18ish there so wonder if even his 'light foot' is actually super heavy lol

[@pharmazan1091]

I have been following your channel and even bought myself a 3.6 JK. I recently wrecked my JK and ended up with a Tacoma TRD off road. As much as I loved my jeep, I was floored by how much more power the Tacoma has, and how inexpensive to modify the Tacoma. Thank you for your channel and God bless!!

[@wanderingmindscape]

I have an LC at around 4K miles too and I get 22MPG consistently. When I come off a highway trip, I see 24MPG+ (stock 20" tires) on the trip. 13MPG, even with the heavy tires, is really surprising.

[@skateinspace]

i get 24-20mpg daily in my '18 NA 2.7 tacoma...33" tires, steel bumpers, winch, etc...i expected way more from these new turbo computer cars, seriously sounds like a huge scam.

[@imnotusingmyrealname4566]

​@@skateinspacenot bad the fuel economy with the big tires and the mods. These new trucks ARE indeed scams by Toyota. They're weaker and more complex than ever before. Your 2.7L on the other hand is among the most reliable Toyota engines ever made and THAT is saying something.

[@veganpotterthevegan]

​@@skateinspace the hybrids have more power but more importantly, lower emissions which benefits everyone. I'd pay a premium for a vehicle that had 10% worse fuel efficiency and 50% lower emissions.

[@veganpotterthevegan]

​​@@imnotusingmyrealname4566the new Tacoma has a lot more torque and the power band is bigger. Hopefully they figure out the bugs. I'm guessing they definitely will. In general, the complexity of vehicles over the years have meant simpler ownership with way more mileage between service intervals and longer life.

[@imnotusingmyrealname4566]

@@veganpotterthevegan I don't mean engine power, I was talking about component strength. The suspension is now a lot weaker than before.

[@mikeburbank9251]

“Even though” I’m a Toyota guy, I’ve been enjoying your channel for years! And now you’re repping a Toyota! And I get your hesitancy showing your EDC storage, but happy you did. 🇺🇸

[@jasonnash7323]

I hate all the technology that has been added to our vehicles. I wish someone would make something that is really stripped down

[@offroadmisfits]

@jasonnash7323 Ineos Grenadier?

[@technom3598]

They cant. All that crap is mandated now by the government and more nonsense is coming. Whats nit mandated by the gov....is mandated by yiur insurance premium. I agree i hate all the tech ... But its not gojng anywhere

[@jasonnash7323]

@@technom3598 this is why I hold onto an early 2000’s truck

[@Wolf4wdadventures.576]

Find TJ/LJ or XJ in great condition... Best jeeps ever made IMO.

[@gilvasquez1317]

Get yourself at 04-08 F150 FX4. . Super cheap and bare bones

[@giancarlozarlengo1096]

Thanks for your honest assessment! Your upgrades are definitely well thought out for your needs and sounds like you're considering other future improvements. All that's expensive. Speaking only for myself, I don't want to have to rebuild a new 60K (+ or -) car. The small fuel tank and lower than expected milage give me real pause especially for a hybrid. I'm driving a 24 Outback Wilderness turbo and getting much higher milage than the sticker claimed. It also has incredible ground clearance. Goes just about anywhere off road. Got out of that purchase with all the bells, whistles extended service, tax & licensing for just over 47K. Not saying it's the perfect vehicle but when I contrast and compare I'm content.

[@wojohowitz5432]

Brad, i'm gonna sidestep the Product reviews for a second, they are top shelf by the way. I want to comment on YOU. You are hands down, A "TOP RATED" human. I am acknowledging YOU for your kindness, your Love and support for your Wife and Boys, your awareness and care for other people's needs and your commitment to your craft. Well done Sir. Carry on!

[@flyingjeff1984]

I'm appreciative of you taking the time to make this video. Put whatever tires on you want. Wide tires dig the hole faster than narrow tires. For decades, service trucks intended for off road use (telephone company, railroad) always wore very narrow tires.

[@mchilly]

I know the one topic you brought up can be a little polarizing but I appreciate that you brought it up. It’s important and I would be interested in more content about it.

[@jasoncoleman2940]

I have about 2,400 miles on mine and these are valid criticisms. I really do also enjoy the drive, as it's my daily driver as well as fun weekend vehicle. I do think some of the issues with some of the audible warnings and the sway bar disconnect reset could be updated with software, but I'm also not holding my breath for that to happen. For what it's worth, I have the Wescott full size roof rack and it is very quiet even at highway speeds.

[@skifishride438]

Land Cruiser looks great. To me that’s where the advantages end. This is a land cruiser in name only.

[@MJ-fj9yv]

Yep, name only. Toyota destroying Land Cruiser heritage

[@MaddNomad1015]

@@MJ-fj9yvoh stop 😂🤣

[@MJ-fj9yv]

@@MaddNomad1015 sure, now say that to Toyota.

[@MaddNomad1015]

@@MJ-fj9yv Land Cruiser already got stretched 3 different ways. They don’t care. Just funny how dramatic people are.

[@MJ-fj9yv]

@@MaddNomad1015 Dramatic? So…fact based opinion is dramatic? 😂

[@vandingo1]

Great balanced video Brad. I have a Wrangler and a LandCruiser, there is no doubt a greater audience when more brands and options are shared; variety is the spice of life! Fair and balanced is important in this world and so very much appreciate your approach to reviews for vehicle and equipment. And cool safe, appreciate that one as I have been looking into best approach. Thanks and keep the great content coming!

[@danfontes9130]

Wow. My V8 4Runner gets 19MPG on the highway with 33" tires and a 2.5" lift. Guess I don't need to "upgrade."

[@MoaByte-v2z]

This makes me appreciate my 60 series even more. It feels so good to row through the gears. Shifting in to 4wd doesn't come with anxiety that it may not engage. The only circuit board is for the AC.

[@thomashorneman563]

It's an AWD all 4 wheels are pulling at all times, maybe your talking about the low range gearbox? Either way look for asian off road videos they will change your mind in offroaders

[@vertstang123]

I predict this one will be gone in a year.

[@dexterrr9163]

Half a year at the best 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@Nachovalenti899]

@@dexterrr9163Yes, between 5 or 6 months.

[@MrJamesLuz]

After all the upgrades and content , it’ll be sold without explanation and the next Jeep will be on the channel 😂

[@DaciaProject]

It’s not an actual Landcruiser. It’s a Prado. The LC 300 is the real one.

[@MaddNomad1015]

@@DaciaProjectit’s a Land Cruiser Prado. Technically the only “real” LC is the 70, since it’s based off the original LCs. 300 is apart of the wagon line

[@brianmoore4778]

My 2004 Touareg has a V8 and adjustable air suspension. Goes up and back down for handling or off road. 205,000 miles. And a 28 gallon gas tank. As well as 6 piston front brake calipers. Not one small chip after 20 years aerodynamic thoughts.

[@MrPristas]

Just a quick note on the firearm safe location... You cannot access it without opening the door. This may be something to consider, despite how amazing it looks in the current configuration. If you are inside your vehicle and the threat is outside, you are unarmed,. Something to consider.

[@MrChadx1]

That is why he said the firearms is typically carried on his person. The safe is only for situation where it needs to be stored/locked away; not readily handy. I get your point on accessibility, but for how he describes his use, seems like it will rarely be in the safe, so the access isn't much of an impact.

[@g.fortin3228]

I know you're a jeep guy..and was prepared to call you out for nit-picking..but I have to admit that the items you pointed out make perfect sense and I'm sure you will find work-arounds to most of it and maybe..just maybe, if they get feedback they may consider tweaks in the future like offering a large tank as an option. if there is room that is. Nice, really really nice vehicle. Looking great! Wish I had the back-country in my area that you have to enjoy! Can't wait to hear what the lifted LC gets for mpg's.

[@troybuiltadventures5481]

Hey Brad, whatever happened to Marco ? I don’t see him in your videos anymore. Thanks.

[@ramoneortiz]

As a 2021 Land Cruiser 200 owner, I want to say welcome to the Toyota family. I am still on the fence on the new LC but it looks good. Keep us posted with updates.

[@davecoil208]

Jordan was right! That safe is pretty cool. I'd love to see that offroad/backcountry firearm carry. Particularly, I'd like to see resources for checking legality of carrying a firearm when planning a trip. Love the vid, love the Land Cruiser!

[@allanstipe2829]

USCCA is a great resource.

[@husker_nation]

@@davecoil208 USCAA is a good resource for reciprocity info. However, my carry insurance is CCW Safe

[@JB-101-gtg]

Isn't there an issue with more than 120 lbs on top of the hybrid battery or is the drawer system mounted to keep weight light?

[@994pt4]

Sticking with the 2024 4Runner ORP. Probably last Toyota I'll ever own.

[@Rich-eg6qb]

I bought one in Terra. Probably my last Toyota too

[@Miroslaw-rs8ip]

I don’t like the 4 cylinder turbo engine! I have a Lexus RX460h with a V6 engine and I love it, I also have a GX460 V8 engine and it’s great. I don’t like smaller engines since they have to work much harder and will be more problematic down the road 😢

[@GengarBop]

rewind 20 years and you have a perfect LC

[@retrotrancechannel6470]

My 2007 LC100 4.2 diesel still going strong after 300K km. Still good for the next 20 years.

[@jpsav008]

Something that isn’t mentioned in a lot Land Cruiser reviews and videos is that the LC 24’ takes Premium gas, or 91+ octane. This is the recommended fuel in the owners manual. Fuel economy plummets when using less than a 91 octane for this car (so I have heard). I don’t want to assume anything here, but I wonder if this was overlooked?

[@Earlywinters09]

I'm enjoying the Land Cruiser content, but so far I'm not making any plans to retire my JK 😄

[@Rooftroop]

I’ll say this. No matter the vehicle you get you always love it. Me personally I don’t see the Land Cruiser as your cup of tea. None the less as always awesome video.

[@jjpark1989]

Not gonna lie, I would’ve rather just kept the Power Wagon.

[@ascott215]

🤣

[@is6566]

On same tires it would have better mpg. 😃

[@BoomerFLURY]

I agree. Bought my 22PW and was looking forward to some great mods from Brad. The first thing I saw was the notice of no truck campers due to load capacity. No deal breaker. Installed Decked drawers and maybe should have gotten the cargo glide instead as I carry most of my gear in action packers. Been doing that for decades.

[@Landcruiseroverland]

Well, I get 12-14 mpg even towing our patriot x3 in the highway and we have a 2011 Land Cruiser 200 on 35/12.5s with 4.88 gears but with the long range America aux fuel tank it’s not a problem. We have plans to add a 4Runner trailhunter to the garage, you can’t replace the 200 but it’s built for overlanding with the full kitchen slid out.

[@sergioguillen4661]

255 pizza cutter no regrets, best in all situation!

[@donhappel9566]

Except anything soft and deep. Then you need all the floatation you can get, especially with a heavy rig like this.

[@donleamon8653]

Yeah, especially sand

[@leeloo21231234]

@@donleamon8653 They will have approximately the same contact patch, the shape will be different.

[@enjoytheridedude]

My wife’s 1958 model gets 23 mpg combined with the street tires and 18 inch wheels.

[@kotaman232]

What's the point of making a complicated hybrid engine when it has the same fuel economy as some six cylinders?

[@JimmyDevere]

Emissions.... CAFE. Toyota gets credits

[@Unimportantrichard]

It wasn't for the fuel economy. It was for emissions and still being able to produce high HP/TQ

[@kotaman232]

@@JimmyDevere Even

[@kotaman232]

@@Unimportantrichard Gayer.

[@Karmazov]

EPA

[@theburtseoni]

20 years ago most folks would have considered the new 2024 Land Cruiser just about perfect. It's amazing what time does for product perfection and our memories.

[@JimBob-qh8gl]

It doesn't get good fuel economy, here's 6 ways to make that worse, nice. As a note I get 23 mpg in my 2010 Prado with a Stock 40 Gallon tank

[@is6566]

He should put the roof rack back with a roof top tent. That would shave off at least 2 mpg more. 😃

[@Jay-bw3fl]

Real, honest, constructive criticism. The perfect type of video

[@Andy-ec9yn]

Brad, we have had a 4x4 sprinter for close to 4 years now and because of your channel, my wife and I added/bought a jeep wrangler and absolutely love it so far as we do the sprinter . Would love to have that conversation on self protection.

[@andrewleach8046]

Well done. While I don’t carry any firearms on my vehicle or person I applaud your approach to the subject matter and give you my vote of confidence as one who should orchestrate these types of conversations for those interested.

[@samhartfieldlewis5247]

Hello I wonder if your making this something it shouldn’t be at all. It’s a comfortable 4x4 designed for wealthy farmers, would be the comment when comes too the UK 🇬🇧. It’s not that sort of vehicle really too be altering, what you have done so far looks brilliant and useful more maybe just too much. All the nice interior and stuff isnt really tough enough for messing about off road, that’s my thoughts on it. Looks ace with the styling now, wonder if some nice discrete bumper lights would be cool though. Take care Sam

[@WilliamB.-ij6gl]

my fuel economy went up 20% when I got closer to 10k miles. I break in vehicles really well and drive conservatively. I've also serviced it 3 times in the first 13k miles

[@minshu12]

You are in a transition phase from Jeep to Toyota LC. I started with Jeeps for a decade & half. Remember looking down at others, until after seven years break from offroading my mechanic friend (Jeeps only) suggested I buy a Toyota LC. Skeptic at first, started revealing the advantages in the past 4 years. Especially, maintainance, reliability comfort. Performance is head to head with a slight advantage to the Jeep due to wide options of upgrades. Every offroad club here is fully aware of "You go offroading in a Jeep but come back home in a Land Cruiser". It certainly proved for me. I am sure it will for you. Enjoy.

[@Rocketrooster177]

Jeeps are not well liked for off-roading in Australia, broken chassis, breakdowns etc..

[@ToddSwagerty]

When you go to bigger tires, try 265/85R17. They aren't as wide, but are about a 35". It may fit better under the batteries.

[@Ahmadmzazai]

How did you get 20 mpg on regular tires??? I’ve been getting 25-26mpg all day long

[@515ventures3]

Put a rack on top and mount your tire on the rack?

[@korewest]

Roof rack must have been pretty loud for a Wrangler owner to comment on it

[@gopackgo69]

I think it was that large row of KC lights making all of the racket.

[@lifeform749]

got the same ride. Went with 275/70/18 toyo AT3 e rated white letter (weight 52.5lbs) vs those 67lb Nittos... I'm getting about 23 hwy 20 city

[@TheScotro]

I love my 200… but these new 250s just miss the mark. No split tailgate and a hybrid with poor fuel economy and an even SMALLER tank? It looks cool (even better in person) but there’s just too many compromises.

[@cdnjeepoverland]

I’m a Goal Zero fan from way back, as well. Passing through SLC in the spring I was sure to stop in at their sales warehouse and picked up some great gear and also received some top notch support. I’ll continue to purchase from them.

[@Candisias]

Brad, for the windshield, I would look to your local tint shops to see if they have ExoShield in stock. As soon as I got my Bronco, I went straight there and got it installed. It only costs about $200 here in Las Vegas (and I think about $20 for labor). Wasn’t too bad, and I’ve been off roading since last year and it’s definitely SAVED me some money threefold!

[@lincolnwong425]

I had to replace the windshield. It is back ordered for a month and it’s not just the windshield but one time use molding pieces. All on back order.

[@djp1234]

Nothing beats a Diesel engine. I'm getting 22mpg on my Ecodiesel Gladiator Rubicon.

[@jcusan2011]

Ton of problems with Stellantis Ecodiesel

[@TrailRecon]

Best fuel economy I ever got was with my Wrangler Diesel... a little regret saying goodbye to that one.

[@djp1234]

@@jcusan2011 I'm at 70k miles so far. Zero problems.

[@catsaretasty]

😂congrats you got 2 mpg than gas?

[@djp1234]

@@catsaretasty gas gets like 15 mpg

[@theonlyDougBlack]

Thank you for covering towing and protection!!!

[@nathanielseth]

A lift doesn't increase ground clearance, just saying. 🤪 Love the channel!

[@stevehinkley9099]

I think he was saying the lift will allow for larger tires, which would increase ground clearance. Not by much, but it would help some.

[@ELECTRICEYEMEDIA]

Were you fed paint chips as a child? Lifting a vehicle most certainty gives more ground clearance. Did you think when adding a 1.75 or 3.0 lift that the the bottom of the chassis would just remain the same height after the lift? LMFAO

[@christopherharris6005]

Awesome video as always Brad.

[@remembermorrison]

I'm glad I didn't buy one of these or the GX 550. That fuel economy is abysmal, then throw in the 18 gallon tank. OUCH. That is not livable for me. I've had many rigs in the past 20 years, including the GX 460, which I absolutely loved. The second he lifts this thing I bet he gets 12 mpg on that 18 gallon tank. The spare tire is a big problem. The GX 460 could fit a 33, or an aired down and ratch-strapped 34. I see him ditching this in 6 months.

[@icuyouseeme]

GX460 or LX570 would have been the better choice here. This will be traded in before the end of 2025.

[@andrewjang]

I haven’t gone below 21mpg on my LC250… sounds like his issue is a driver issue not a car issue..

[@daltonv5206]

It's also looks like he's got heavier tires and an extra 1000lbs of gear ​@@andrewjang

[@mattmacpherson1033]

Dissent off road with a tire swing arm will take the tire out from underneath. Then you can put a fuel tank where the tire was.

[@LaddGardner4]

I was shocked when you bought the Land Cruiser. Twenty minutes at the local dealership with a tape measure had me running for the exits, and the Bronco's history of broken steering racks convinced me that expensive upgrades meant to fix the drawbacks baked into independent suspension are a dog chasing its tail, if off-roading is your primary mission. Also sympathetic to the issues with all the Nanny Alarms: We have the same issue with my wife's Platinum trim Toyota Highlander. Always a relief to climb back into my 2019 JLU Rubicon. Thanks for taking the bullet for the rest of us with the Land Cruiser.

[@husker_nation]

@@LaddGardner4 I think the land cruiser along with the Bronco are meant for the weekend warriors along with maybe one or two big trips a year. Yes, Jeep is better at rock crawling, but all these very capable vehicles all have their drawbacks. It gets expensive when people modify their vehicles outside of the engineer's intent or parameters. The steering rack was never an issue with the Bronco until people started to put bigger tires on them and didn't consider the other point of failures along that system.

[@corbanlee8157]

These vehicles are not rock bouncers they are designed for Long distance comfortable travel​@@husker_nation

[@golferpro1241]

My wife has the Platinum Highlander too. I do like it. 2016 Wrangler Sahara, great vehicle too.

[@joerghallbauer6595]

@@husker_nation Yup, exactly, it's the compromise I'm happy to live with in order to get a more comfortable ride. I've had my "stock" Bronco in Moab and wheeled all of the 6-7 rated trails with no problems. My only mod to the steering rack are some sleeves for the tie rods. Ford has addressed that issue and now you get an upgraded steering rack with the Sasquatch package (the equivalent of the Jeep Rubicon xtreme package). I think that comparing a stock Bronco's capabilities to a modified Jeep isn't fair anyway. The Jeep Wrangler Rubicon and the SAS Bronco are pretty much the same, capability wise. I certainly wouldn't take a stock Jeep on anything more difficult than what I take my Bronco on. But when you compare the stock Bronco to a Jeep with 40's and one-tons I think that's a bit unfair.

[@husker_nation]

@@joerghallbauer6595 What year did they upgrade the steering in the Bronco SAS and which trim? I would imagine like the Bandlands and Wildtrak trims

[@supraphonic88]

Appreciate your honest feedback. I’ve been running a 1958 for the last few months and 3,000 miles and I’m still very happy with it, but I have shared in some of your gripes. Nothing that’s a dealbreaker for me and my needs but things that potential owners out to be clear-eyed about. Excited to learn more from your journey!

[@richsmith3120]

For the windshield see if gorilla glass has you covered. Its the strongest glass available for consumers.

[@is6566]

It doesn’t. It just cost more. People are replacing the gorilla glass (after they broke) on their wranglers with regular glass.

[@richsmith3120]

@@is6566 I haven't heard of this. Okay, thanks for the info.

[@is6566]

I think I heard about this on a channel, something Ozark maybe Ozark Overlanding. They have gladiators. This said, I have a Sport (so regular glass) and in 10,000 miles my windshield is still ok but I wheel alone so I don’t follow others on trails.

[@jatollar]

For lift I'd check to see if 74 weld has portals that are compatible with this. 3.9" of below axle clearance, lower gearing and you could probably throw 35's on without cutting anything to make room. Thats over 5" of lift while keeping your up and down travel roughly 50/50. IFS lifts take away down travel which is not good.

[@mediocreman2]

A BMW X5 has the exact same ground clearance, so yeah.

[@MJ-fj9yv]

BMW x5 and Toyota Land Cruiser are two completely different purpose built vehicles.

[@stop_lying_bro]

@@MJ-fj9yvhe never said they were similar though. Reading comprehension matters buddy.

[@MJ-fj9yv]

@@stop_lying_bro so like an ignorant person just blurted out X5 in this context dealing with the LC ground clearance? Cognitive thinking matters, but you keep breathing thru that mouth 😂.

[@stop_lying_bro]

@@MJ-fj9yv OmG, you’re one of those lmao. Good night sir.

[@MJ-fj9yv]

@@stop_lying_bro Goon night, please use your CPAP and avoid dying from mouth breathing.

[@67cruiser-AKA-JonReynolds]

BTW I had a 67 FJ40 with 36" tires, SM465 tranny with no overdrive with a 2F engine with a Mileage Master electronic ignition - headers and glass pack - (smog exempt in Ca) - stock Tcase and stock diffs - was getting on average 22 MPG

[@mlife2]

I can already see the little itch to sell this vehicle.

[@doublebackagain4311]

The dissatisfaction is evident. After lift/tires it won't be long.

[@michaelsuarez1656]

After the content is squeezed, I see an Ineos Grenadier in the near future

[@BijanY]

@@michaelsuarez1656that’s exactly right once he rode in one he knew he made a mistake buying it

[@d-unit-outdoors]

Yes. Off-road / overloading carry is definitely of interest.

[@bekajikia1754]

Land Cruisers always had a spare mounted like that. Long before the hybrids were around. It is a traditional weakness of Land Cruisers.

[@YuenanCao]

No, this is even lower than previous ones

[@jimmy45815]

@@YuenanCao @bekajikia1754 on 200 series I removed unnecessary parts above spare to gain more clearance. Should check if this is possible with battery pack

[@stevephillips7935]

You make great points about the issues with the Land Cruiser. I also have been very disappointed with the fuel economy.

[@a990dna]

Why do you need larger tires? Its perfect. Cookie cutters are actually better.....

[@wolfgang_h3t]

Nah lmao

[@DaciaProject]

255/80/R17 are the best tires for the Prado. Thank me later!

[@ELECTRICEYEMEDIA]

@@DaciaProject Too small for the 250. 285/70/18 is the right flush fit without rub for the 250.

[@TfHales]

I do not understand the low MPG some folks experience. We are averaging 23.7 on stock tires after 2,200 miles of city & highway, and not using eco or driving slowly.

[@zackzadventures]

I would be very interested in a video and carrying a gun on the trail and in different states!

[@americapride]

Like many of us, carrying firearms is must for my protection when off-grid camping /off-roading with wife and kids. Most of time, it with me (CCW) in person, however, like Trailrecon, I also have steel safe box bolted on vehicle. CCW and regular training help me more confident in the wild and chaos society today. Yes. It’s our 2A rights. I love people and nature…and no harm to even a little insect.

[@Grumpyseabee22]

What gun? 😉

[@Openmindpureheart]

@@Grumpyseabee22 Yep I lost all mine in a boating accident.

[@alxdava2004]

For that is the 70 series

[@rndmprsn3532]

Just carry it. Don't tell anyone

[@corythompson9433]

If you still have that roof rack that makes a ton of noise, you could try adding a wind deflector to the front of it. I’m not sure how much it would reduce the noise, but I imagine it would be worth trying.

[@jalilburdeen8698]

Gavin Newsom himself might come after you for a mere Glock 19 haha. Would be cool to see occasional firearm content on here though.

[@chrisking6695]

This is such nonsense. He would not. He doesn’t care about it as much as you. Being in favor of sensible gun control like many other countries have implemented instead of that BS that’s going on here (which doesn’t work bc all states have different regulations so you can go to the state with the most lax gun laws and get one) which doesn’t solve anything.

[@MJ-fj9yv]

Communists usually do.

[@dobbingo9313]

@@MJ-fj9yvif you think people who are centrist capitalists are communists then the American education system has truly failed you. Lol

[@facelessman5362]

All the guys who like glock tend to like toyotas. Whenever my local range hosts GSSF the entire parking lot is tacos and 4runners 🤣

[@merczeph79]

​@@facelessman5362 but I love my G locks and I own exclusively Jeeps... LOL

[@Ta50039]

Fantastic video overall. Thanks for sharing your real thoughts on the platform. I think like most builds, one decision can turn into a cascade of other decisions. Wider tires are already causing you departure angle problems. Bigger diameter tires lead to needing the spare wheel holder (100lb + $2K), potential regearing, speedo issues and suspension alignment issues and CV joint problems. Wanting more clearance. The further away from stock, the further away from what the engineers designed. e = bigger lift = more alignment issues = more instability at speed. Roof rack noise leads to a 2nd roof rack (50-100lb + $2K). Front winch = 200-300 lb + $3K-$4K. I'd love to get your thoughts on how you're thinking about all of these trade-offs as you build the vehicle.

[@M511Tactical]

Nice review Brad. Some peppered in 2A content would be nice. Keep up the good work.

[@kevinhamer2230]

Traveling with a firearm has proven very difficult. With my concealed carry permit I can carry in 42 States but I still find myself wanting to cross into States where I can't. Uscca has a concealed carry reciprocity map that has been extremely valuable. I've found that some states I assumed would present an issue can be okay as long as the gun stays in my truck. Also very informative about magazine capacity restrictions.

[@DirtShy]

I personally conceal carry with a permit. I believe that would make a awesome video.

[@capthrash]

Got a rock chip on my windshield within the first 6 weeks as well. Gets tiring at 60 bucks a pop, but better than the 1400 the dealer would want to replace the whole thing. Overall a great vehicle.

[@northwestadventure5087]

$65,000 for 20 mpg on the highway ? Thats disappointing. My 2001 Sequoia with 270k miles is getting 18.5 mpg on the highway.

[@purleybaker]

What did you do to your Sequoia? My 05 has never topped 14.6.

[@701overland]

I have a 2010 Tundra I get 15 o. highway if I am lucky with 207,000 as well.

[@SkywhiteChannel]

What does price have to do with fuel economy? I have a $100k truck and get 11mpg. So what?!?

[@purleybaker]

@@SkywhiteChannel Right, even if the mileage was halved it would be a relatively small part of the overall cost of owning and driving it. Depreciation, insurance and in my state personal property tax would dwarf fuel cost.

[@MichaelKuczynski-u7o]

What ? I’ve hade 4 tundras and a 2019 Sequoia with the 5.7 they all got 14mpg . How do you get 18mpg ?

[@royeinbar6116]

Small secret: you do not need sway bars at all .on road also.i took down mine in my xj 4.5 inch lift and 33 tyers.60000 miles later: no problems at all. Try it yourself!

[@korewest]

Maybe a second channel is in order. I do think the offroad crowd is generally supportive of firearms. But like you said youtube has historically imposed some severe restrictions on firearms related channels.

[@is6566]

Yeah. Mixing that stuff into this channel might be a quick way to demonetization of the channel. Maybe not directly but through the black box of the algorithm.

[@leslieware2125]

I would like to discuss carrying. I have Texas License to Carry. There are recipriocity states but there are also restricted areas even with a carry license. It can get confusing.

[@RandallSchwartz-os1bd]

Maybe some info about what you had to go through to get your CCW in California. I moved to Nevada in retirement and love it.

[@ShredGarage]

16 hour training. And like $300. And not live in LA county, or the Bay Area.

[@Harps555]

It's more then that. In Ca all CCWs go through the sheriff's department of wherever you live. You have to apply and then typically there's a wait list anywhere from 3 to 6 months. You will then be interviewed by the department and have to have a good cause for why you want to carry among other questions. You also have to state the firearm you will carry and they will note the serial number the limit was 5 when I did it. Once approved then you have to do the training and what not. And like he said it's almost impossible in LA or bat area unless you have connections or are very wealthy. Orange County and Riverside are the easiest socal places to get it. They used to also do a home visit to see if you actually lived in the county but they stopped that now

[@ShredGarage]

@@Harps555 it’s hard to tell me it’s more than that as I have my ccw in California and have had one for a while. Good cause is not a thing anymore. It’s just good character, meaning no violent crimes, no domestic violence, lots of small run ins, etc. Most counties are pretty quick now as demand as lowered as most people who wants one already has one.

[@mcximus]

Love the tires and wheels on your ride.

[@jettdriver4841]

so a 75 thousand dollar LC needs 10k plus in mods to convert from Mall Cruiser lol

[@technom3598]

Need is a strong word

[@donhappel9566]

Sadly, this is too common everywhere. Other than the Wrangler (at least in the US) and to a lesser extent the Bronco there just aren't many offroad capable stock vehicles.

[@peopleschamp7258]

​@@donhappel9566Ineos Grenadier entered the chat

[@gilvasquez1317]

​@@donhappel9566 my 05 F150 FX4 on 37's does the job easily. And the truck cost me $4500 4 years ago lol

[@MrJcjet]

​@@peopleschamp7258it's not really very capable. Interesting, but not really an off-road hardcore model.

[@chrisgallo495]

I took my LC (mid level) out on the dunes with stock 20s and that “skid plate.” We aired down for grip and climbing. After 2 hours in a class I got an engine alert. Looked underneath and coolant leaking so took it to the local dealer. Severe damage to the car mechanically and body damage. Total was $13k of damage and waiting for the car back six weeks later.

[@Anomize23]

What a great way to start out that warranty 😂

[@johnchesney7257]

Great video as always Brad. Love the firearms idea. Now that you have a Land Cruiser maybe we can see a LLOD collab. Maybe Jack Carr. Just an idea!

[@ashwilliams93]

That's a really good idea! I'd love to see Brad get together with Jack Carr for an Off-road/ Landcruiser/ 2A collaberation.I know Jack built out a Power Wagon too. I'm sure they'd have a lot to talk about. Oh! And the Navy thing of course! Ha! -Edited to add Navy comment (How could I forget!?)

[@TrapperSamm]

I've been off-roading since the late 60's and have always carried or had it in my vehicle. Check the reciprocity states to see if your states carry license are recognized there. I also recommend having insurance that covers you in the event you're forced to defend yourself or family it's not that expensive when you consider the alternative. I use USCCA. Great video.