Train Hopper interview - Kayla

Soft White Underbelly interview and portrait of Kayla, a train hopper currently in New York City.
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[@queenlizidee]

Kayla is my friend and she's so sweet. I'm incredibly happy that I went through a ton of these comments and not one of them that I read was negative. Thank you for that, humans 💙

[@DeViLzzz2006]

The negativity is there. I am not sure what you are reading. Honestly it saddens me what some are saying. She is on a level that many of us will never get to. She is awesome.

[@jaypazole4086]

I liked her instantly! Would love to have a beer with her and listen to her stories

[@ohiogrows3668]

Your friends taking up space and that's about it.

[@hilmothfoot]

I'm fascinated by her!! Lowkey kinda want to be this free

[@NastyVonNette]

She seems like a child in spirit. In the best way possible... I hope most of us could understand freedom like she does....not even speaking about her lifestyle but the Mental freedom. 🖤💜💙💚💛🧡❤️🤍 "Life is too short to be pissed off all the time"..... 💯

[@alexissrodarte1073]

she is the definition of “Not all who wander, are lost.”

[@1110karin]

But she is lost that's why the need for hard drugs.

[@SmellsLikeContentt]

She is me and I am her.

[@robertdavis3788]

you really think this woman is the antonym of Lost? in my little male brain thinks that someone that ingest these hard core suicide mission street drugs in an uncontrollable fashion with no regard to death must have alot of past they want to depart from, or losss for awhile. I really think this legal system needs to up the sentencing parameters when it comes to molestations , predentary grooming of any type of pedophilia. this has to be like middle eastern judgement outcomes because look at what it really does to the victims way of life. Makes me want to just pray , just pray cus my heart hurts for these unexpecting victims

[@longshotdiedtired1582]

What interview were you watching ?

[@unknownsender6852]

Literally has 'LOST GIRL' tatted on her knuckles...

[@ChicagoScientologyAudit]

Ben is my son. od'ed on a Friday waiting for a spot in rehab (opened Monday following his death ). Heroin is NO JOKE. Met you Kayla after your central america trip with Ben. It's so good to see his old friends still making a way. Please PLEASE stay clean and think about being in touch when you come through Chicago .

[@akatripclaymore.9679]

Sorry to hear about Ben😮‍💨 I lost my stepson 20 year's back & it still hurt's.. It was probably Fentanyl, I have lost over a dozen friends to that effing poison.

[@gabrialjackson5878]

Very sincerely sorry for your loss. Not sure how we as a society we will survive this. Hopefully this will be a catalyst to propel us forward and those fallen won't be for nothing 🙏. Thank you for sharing

[@z.s.n.]

I am so sorry for your loss momma.

[@ChicagoScientologyAudit]

@@z.s.n. 💔😢😢

[@z.s.n.]

@@ChicagoScientologyAudit God bless you. Not all mothers are " made of the same stuff ". You are a blessing to this world and I respect and appreciate you.

[@meredithjulianmahaney1635]

I want to see an update on this one. I have never watched any of these more than once and this one I’ve watched three times. There’s something about her that I just love.

[@MsTweakk]

She’s an Angel 🤫

[@petecollins7072]

This is wild. She's an old friend of mine. Last time I saw her was like sixteen years ago, when she came to visit. At that point it had been a few years since I'd seen her. We were pretty close back in like 2004. Me, her and my best friend baughb would hang out, get stoned, listen to music, and talk for hours. Those were the days. It's so cool seeing her in this video. I'm glad she's happy.

[@Divinerae555]

She smiles as she talks, she is very happy In her ways and is very smart with not bringing a child Into her world knowing it’s not stable for a child. I’m all for her story! Keep living your life!!

[@devontolly1596]

Yes, her being responsible enough to not have kids when she isn't ready for them is mature and the right decision.

[@kevincarlson4562]

I wish everyone capable of having kids had that much foresight.

[@incantationsbykaryn]

That's one thing I always told myself as well and follow through with. I never had children because I was a drug user and living all over the place at the time as well. It was the most responsible decision I could have made at that time and I'm glad that I did.

[@univuniveral9713]

Yeah. 90% of today's people have kids and houses not because they love those things, but just to show, to fit in.

[@univuniveral9713]

@@christmastree6817 The world still has a ways to go.

[@black76561]

She’s ain’t lying.. to become a good parent is selfless and she’s acknowledged her selfishness. I can appreciate that 👏🏾👏🏾

[@jukee67]

Every kid born into this new normal has a high probability of being a candidate for suicide in the future...Think about that.

[@credman]

Most people have kids because of social pressure which is just as selfish.

[@smellysock4260]

I think she is less selfish than most of the people Mark has interviewed. They have children out of selfishness: "Hey everybody. My life sucks. I'm homeless and on crack. My boyfirend is threatening to leave me. I know... I'm going to have a baby and that will makes things better." I am not exageraritn; Mark has 1000s of hours of interviews of Skid Row derelict people saying they had babies for this reason.

[@Ph.D..]

These people are so selfish to the conductors & engineer on trains. My dad is a life long railroader & he has to deal with these irresponsible, selfish people that try to get themselves killed, so conductors can find their mangled bodies or worse watch them get plowed over & suicided. It happens often & it never leaves them. You traumatize the railroad workers & they live with ptsd from witnessing young people killed or ran over or trying to jump the train & instead end up under it. Be respectful of fellow humans. Why is that so hard to do for so many Americans? Who gives you the right to jump trains, which is illegal, dangerous & puts others, not just yourself in danger? You cost taxpayers money too & affect freight train schedules & whatever they're caring to get there on time. That can also mess with the Arrival times & yard master trying to direct where all the trains go so they don't cross paths. It's not harmless messing with trains. You're a criminal & affecting many lives beyond your own. Gain respect for other people, their job, their income & their hard work & choose a hobby that doesn't harm others negatively & that isn't illegal.

[@psb12121]

Ph D thanks for providing this perspective. The cost to this activity is overwhelming.

[@davidparkins6241]

She is incredible! Movie actors try to emulate characters like her all the time but never really pull it off. Real deal stuff. Good for her, carry on!

[@Brooklynbaby47]

Only a well trained/talented actor can pull it it off.

[@Brooklynbaby47]

maybe like juliett lewis

[@cory7542]

Your 100 % right

[@troubledtrouabdour]

Been watching SWU for a bit never thought I’d see an old friend. I partied with Kayla in Charleston many years ago. Glad to see she’s doing good.

[@eiRuNLiMiteD]

the ice cubes, carpet, clean sheets. i love she doesn't take anything for granted. thank you kayla for sharing yourself with us!

[@devontolly1596]

She doesn't take it for granted because she has nothing. She appreciates it more.

[@margaretmurphy4206]

Hot running water. What a luxury.

[@absinthemindedJ]

@@margaretmurphy4206 and new, clean, socks! I don't care who you are...that right there is priceless.

[@monikastroban1056]

Her last words about the carpet, clean sheets put tears in my eyes!! She is amazing on her own way!!!💕

[@skesno309]

Free spirit. There’s a small amount of jealousy in all of us about her ability to be so free and explore the world.

[@wesleyalan9179]

Absolutely...not gonna lie. This is like a dream of mine. I know I never will though..supporting and raising children, a wonderful wife,a good job,a house,a car..all that. But it doesn't hurt to daydream about it,lol!

[@user-ek5nl1jc4b]

Nobody with common sense is "jealous " of ANYBODY living like this. There is a difference between living a free life and being a damaged druggy that runs from their problems.

[@user-ek5nl1jc4b]

@Septic Tank lol i have traveled plenty of my long journey and that's why I know that this chic is full of lies and has been a manipulator for her entire life.

[@robyn_byrd]

I love this comment! We wish we had a little of her freedom.

[@a.wanderer5006]

@@wesleyalan9179 Think of it as a mindset, rather than the actual miles under your belt. I was a hardcore traveler when i was young, now with the Instagramers doing butt poses everywhere and restrictive uptight travel, it has lost some of its former appeal, BUT you can still go with your family to explore the woods, ancestral sites, old graveyards, or abandoned houses close to home. It's the same thing - it's just contained 'mini adventures.'

[@tarotdreamseverythinginbet350]

She is living, while I'm just existing. Hats off to her for being true to herself. I wish I was as courage as her to be free!

[@networkdude1332]

I feel exactly the same. And you got it admit it’s crazy that her father was rocket scientist who trained the Muhajir dean and how to use rocket propelled missiles against the Soviets. This interview makes me realize how plain and boring my life is and how desperately I need adventure I really wish I had someone like that in my life To change my outlook a little bit. It’s so sad she got mixed up in heroin though.

[@robertdavis3788]

shes not living hun, shes fleeing. I bet she conmsumes over 100mg of methodone, i can see it in her face, i see the skin on her face with the chemical undertones. look at her eyes she is poisoned with that catatonic drug shew waits in line for every morning. shes not free, that serious of a drug habit is like being in solitary confinement. if you lovce your life, you wouldnt particapate in chemicals that keeps u in this pharmasutical zombie. I hope one day she will sober up and deal with theses issues she has cus shes worth it

[@tarotdreamseverythinginbet350]

@@robertdavis3788 you have strong points

[@tarotdreamseverythinginbet350]

@@mattalexander4699 your a poet and didn't know it lol

[@badjuju2612]

@@robertdavis3788 thats a very narrow outlook. Methadone is a awesome tool if its used and tapered from correctly. People are gonna abuse any program, but Methadone has saved a lot of people "including myself."

[@ryanmalone2681]

Her description of train-hopping is exactly what I love about adventure motorcycle camping. Hit the road, turn off the sat nav, choose whatever road you want, and see the most beautiful places and meet interesting people.

[@TheGoddessonfire]

I have commented a few times that Mark should interview freight hoppers and graffiti writers. It’s an interesting subculture and it’s only half addicts/alcoholics

[@kittenspuppiespsychictarot3873]

True! My boyfriend is a graffiti writer and I knew nothing about it until I met him. I thought they were all gang members that did it. It's an actually sub culture like you said. Pretty interesting and very good artist.

[@chunkk5426]

JABO *JMU Crew ALL DAY!

[@Maggot_infestedd]

Well yeah because everyone needs someone to talk too. Some of them don’t even have medical to get mental help. So mark is technically their therapist.

[@whocares4464]

I've known plenty of train hoppers throughout my life and most were great genuine people

[@Lostinmyhead23]

@@kittenspuppiespsychictarot3873 wow how judgements of you

[@thegeorgiacreekwalker491]

I’ve always been fascinated with the train hopping lifestyle, my teacher asked me in 3rd grade what I wanted to be and I said a HOBO lol, I just wanted to throw a sack over my shoulder and go and maybe I will one day, I turned 45 last week, I don’t have kids, not many possessions, my arrowhead collection is my only possessions I value, I take care of my elderly mom, we kind of take care of each other and I could never leave her but when that day comes I may just pack a bag and disappear, I’ve only been out of Georgia one time in 23 years so I’d like to spread my wings a little, anyway, thanks for sharing, I got a lot in common with this chick, I also went to juvenile twice for truancy, I hated school, Have A Blessed Week👊💙✌️

[@gic8849]

I support this. Once the tether of love/commitment sets you free, go out and experience some shit.

[@at-ge5te]

That's a great plan. Serious

[@thegeorgiacreekwalker491]

@Coon Word I’ve been subscribed to him for awhile, he’s got a Great Channel 👍

[@thegeorgiacreekwalker491]

@@gic8849 thanks 🙏🏻

[@lill1557]

Maybe I'll meet you there 🙏🏼

[@_jp__]

Love the fact Kayla gave about busking. It's always great meeting someone that's so well traveled. They always have great stories and random but excellent facts. What a legend!!

[@Truth5eeker33]

God these peoples stories are addictive. when she described riding the train through the desert at sunset made me jealous. i love trains

[@juanitohernandez4650]

Get a crew change, meet someone who knows what they are doing and hop a train then 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@Truth5eeker33]

@@juanitohernandez4650 I would. Definitely seems dangerous and sketchy people

[@juanitohernandez4650]

@@Truth5eeker33 its very dangerous but all things worth doing have risk. Its the most exhilarating thing you can do. If you don't hop on the fly, pick a good ride (not a gondola loaded with stuff, boxer with stuff not tied down, really anywhere that anything can slide and crush you). Don't ride suicide, and stay hidden. The people can be avoided if that's what you are trying to do. But there are some AMAZING travelers out there that you would be lucky to get acquainted with.

[@tatih8267]

I remember partying with kayla (everyday). She stayed with us for a bit. I dont think she was on h back then, but she always had happiness and fun to share, and obviously her banjo with her.

[@TaintedNate]

Liar

[@graffics7665]

Nates comment says "Liar" & I was thinking, "how rude" until I pressed translate to English! Liar translated to Indonesian is 'Wild'

[@curiousgeorge555]

Is she on KZbin playing banjo?

[@mattskredynski9130]

Nate she ain’t lying this is Kayla I love Tatiana

[@tatih8267]

@@mattskredynski9130 love you too!! Hope to see you again ❤️

[@amandaptak7827]

Yooooo “Life is too short to be pissed off all the time!!!!” This woman is incredible love her story ❤️

[@joogface386]

Great movie

[@SmellsLikeContentt]

@@joogface386 second that

[@feleciajohnson8467]

Eh

[@akatripclaymore.9679]

She reminds me of a girlfriend I lost to Fentanyl. An Awesome person.

[@annalise4226]

This woman's attitude towards life is beautiful! 💜

[@jallenw.67]

Eye rolls

[@shawnalynn5198]

I've always been really fascinated with this subculture. I briefly dated a guy who hopped trains in my early 20s, and he was an awful person but had some incredible stories about that life. Kayla and I are the same age, and even though we've lived vastly different lives, I can relate to a lot of what she says about life, happiness, and regrets. I've lost friends who were at the turning point of getting clean as well and it's horribly tragic. Much love to Kayla 💕

[@couchprincess698]

Damn. She’s a whole movie 🍿. Love how passionate she is. God keep blessing her journey.

[@jessicahouse7862]

She is one of my favorite interviews that you have done Mark! I love how she is the epitome of a free spirit. How she talked about riding through the desert and how she loved birds, was so beautiful to me. Truly a special one

[@robertdavis3788]

i think your beautiful, even though i disagree with your opinion you came opon, but your eyes would have me yesing you way more then i could control. i fell in love with a red headed pale skin big hearted southern fire cracker, we would laugh at all the say things at the same time in harmonizing fashions. we would crack up mid kiss and clank our front teeth together on accident. one day ,2 months after she moved in i opened the maintenence hatch to my outdoor jacuzzi and there were 4 sutter home empty bottlesw hidden in there, . from birth till that moment i thought my 6 sense was reading people in the first 15 minutes ive socialized with them, i was so wrong on this beautiful soul i asked to marry. shes an angel up with god showing him her karismatic spontinuity on how big a humans heart can actually be. i dont know why i jusyt told you this

[@patrickbrcr]

@@robertdavis3788 creep

[@kaylachoochoo]

Aw thanks

[@pachadela]

"there's a lot of other emotions to explain empathetic feelings for something fucked up you did, but regret no" I love that

[@desperado9412]

That was such a gem for me too !! 🤯

[@carolinarios2994]

Loved that too!

[@jeanniesaltwaterla8718]

My friend hopped trains in the 80’s just for fun. Go somewhere for the weekend, and come back. He loved doing it! Kayla you are a gem!

[@gertsgarden]

Not all who wander are lost! She is an incredible person.

[@incantationsbykaryn]

I love that!

[@sampritchard9480]

Kayla is the definition of that quote. That’s amazing

[@nnhk0056]

She literally has "Lost Girl" on her knuckles

[@genevaatom2115]

Cringe

[@midnite_in_november]

She’s lost bro

[@thelostronin]

Long before Kayla hopped trains.... she was my best friend...22 years ago...and she slept on my couch for years 16 years ago. One of the only real people I have ever met. I love you Kayl@ and miss you so much! It's time to return the favor after all these years! -Mattimus Prime

[@groominator-magneticequato7195]

You have the coolest name evah.

[@kaylachoochoo]

I fuckin love yew matt!!!!

[@thelostronin]

@@kaylachoochoo love you too! Miss the hell out of you!

[@90sbaby1]

@@kaylachoochoo oh hay gurrrl it's you from the video?? I took trains from NYC to LA Union and back through New Mex and AZ and CO, it was great, inspirational going through deserts passed canyons and Indian lands. But it was Amtrak lol we had to wait for the freight trains to pass, took HOURS. I prob should've hopped on a freight train too lol.

[@benjaminbarrett3048]

@@kaylachoochoo hi from Australia, my name is Ben. Mate, I absolutely love your free spirit , really enjoyed listening to you. Thank you

[@styrofoampony270]

when she said dont take life for granted and began listing things..ice cubes, carpet under your feet, i started crying. shes right. we need to see these things and love them.

[@IndigoRoses7]

My biological father was a forever vagabond and train hopper. I'm actually looking for a documentary he was featured in years ago, he mentioned it and I don't remember the name. He went by the name of Turtle, his real name was Richard. Mainly in Oregon, California, Arizona and Nevada. He passed away in 2016, and I've always appreciated his traveler spirit and yearning for something and somewhere new. I've never seen this interview, but it gives me a taste of what my dad's life was like..thank you to this beautiful lady ❤ I miss you dad

[@melissab8871]

Wait... Turtle? Who lived in Salt Lake City???

[@IndigoRoses7]

@@melissab8871 I'm not sure if he lived in Salt Lake City. The places I know for sure he was, was Reno Nevada, Arizona, different parts of California..specifically Sacramento area (Roseville), and Oregon. But since he train hopped for years, he could have definitely spent time in Utah

[@melissab8871]

@@IndigoRoses7 was your moms named Angie ( I could be wrong about the name..)

[@IndigoRoses7]

@@melissab8871 no, but all the years that my father was trainhopping..he was separated from my mother. He was a ladies man and I'm sure had many, many ladies in his company throughout the years. I signed up to a DNA heritage test site just to see if I have any relatives or siblings I dont know about. My dad was a rolling stone, but he loved his kids the best he could. But anyways to answer your question..Angie is not my mothers name but he was divorced from my mother within a year or two of my birth.

[@guycalgary7800]

My grandfather told me stories about the train hobo's crossing canada in the dirty thirties , they would hop off the train and come up to the farm and ask to be a day labourer to get a couple meals and a warm place to sleep for a night. My great grandmother would put them to work splitting wood etc etc , then they got to sleep in the barn .

[@ActWithUnderstanding]

That's a neat story. What I would give for communities to be like that again.

[@artfuldodger96]

Hold on a minute.. men may have been the ones hopping, but here's one for you.. My great grandmother Ivey was what they called.. "headstrong" in the 30's lol. She married a man twice her age and ran off at 18 from South Texas to California. 2 babies and several black eyes later she'd had it.. She was too proud to call her dad for help (which he would have sent immediately), so at 21 she bought them tickets as far as she could and worked at a local diner until she had enough to get a few towns further. She, my grandfather and his sister slept at the restaurant and they hung around all day with her, getting fussed over by whatever ladies were available. She did this all the way back to Texas. People were built different then, I'm sure of it. I was very lucky to have her in my life (hellcat that she was lol) until I was in my 30's.. the woman lived forever, and to name my daughter after her. ❤

[@incantationsbykaryn]

@@artfuldodger96 What a great story, thanks for sharing!

[@gregcompton9759]

I'd be afraid as a citizen/ farmer to get involved with unknown travelers in these times. Sad that it is.

[@paddington1670]

@@gregcompton9759 Because middle class folk dont ride trains or tramp cross country in this day and age. Even poor people have cars and phones in 2020, so if you see someone without a phone, without a car, without clean clothes, not working during normal business hours, just loitering for no good reason, youre safe to make some judgement calls in 2020 onwards because the only ones without are addicts and criminals just trying to get by without education or a home. In 1930, sure, all of the above were luxuries most people were not privy to, so people didnt make the snap judgements I just explained. It's not a shame that mostly every family lineage has had a comeuppance into middle class territory, very few people are impoverished in developed nations by percentage of the total that arent, compared to 100 years ago, so no one will blame you for judging a book by its cover, for good reason. If it acts like a duck and talks like a duck

[@trinitymorgan8261]

She’s who I’d wanna be if I didn’t live a traditional 9-5 life . She’s willing to take the gamble .. a lot of ppl aren’t . She’s amazing.

[@feralLove]

Kayla's tough as nails and I hope she writes a memoir of her train hoppin' experiences. Learning by lived experience is as valid as formal schooling.

[@freefromit2]

when I hopped trains out of Buffalo NY in the 70"s it was my world, I was a kid with a fucked up home life, I could be gone for days and it wasn't a big deal. he knows how to take care of himself. and I did. The Rails still call me although life got busy and I don't have time. there is nothing like it, those sounds, the adventure. that's why I still miss it.

[@kimmigirl2968]

Haha she is a character and a half. Not only does she look interesting from her style her existence her eyes absolutely say it all. Man she has some stories to tell, before she even started talking. Hope your well Mark, thanks again for another great interesting story. She is so right in so many ways. You go girl you keep on being you and being real.

[@GetTheeBehindMe23]

She definitely has an interesting style, and perspective.

[@buddypng31]

@@GetTheeBehindMe23 every trainhopper looks like this. Shes basically in a uniform

[@lillyanp4]

💯

[@ccvjd3909]

thats a man baby

[@kimmigirl2968]

@Mark Tinman hahaaa

[@dianabanana3817]

Never heard a train hoppers worldview until now. I love this interview

[@Gunfreak451]

Check out shoestring hobo on KZbin kind've a cool channel and cool guy running it.

[@wtichery]

@@Gunfreak451 sounds legit

[@wtichery]

Train hopping is dying out with trains, and it's crazy because trains are part of my childhood growing up in Arkansas near a train track

[@wesleyalan9179]

@@Gunfreak451 ...I will! Thanks!✌😁

[@PuffOfSmoke]

You will find Shiey YT channel entertaining. He train hops in Europe.

[@tikifhe7769]

this woman is beyond incredible - kayla, best of luck and happniess in your life! you truly teach us others what actually really matters and more people should listen to this, what profound wisdom she's got! thanks mark for this beautiful portrait

[@nhutchins100]

She is right about gratitude, and not taking anything for granted, and anything could be gone in an instant. Great interview.

[@chrissaltmarch5703]

Listening to her story, if I could live 10 lifetimes, one of them would be like this

[@kavami11jams30]

Wow what a very broad "what if" possibility!

[@MK-Hogan]

She’s like Jack Sparrow, captain of the train pirates.

[@MaryJaneJones.]

😆😆😆

[@HUMPTYNUGGET]

I had the exact same thought

[@aplanetb]

💚💚💚🍀🍀🍀

[@gohnjohn737]

Sahm of 4 here! B***** I’m dead! You’re hella funny! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😆😆😆😆

[@johnjames945]

Dude that's like the best adjective ever 😂

[@placemystique2]

An old punker from Charleston, SC here sending a truck ton of love to Kayla. All the health, wealth, love and abundance mama!

[@rayafrigginsunshine4059]

I honestly think this is my favorite interview so far. Kayla, I hope you maintain the road to recovery and keep living your life to the fullest.

[@peepindis]

I knew someone who got into the train hopping lifestyle. General observation is these people spend a LOT of their time talking about how special and magical their lives are.

[@orangepopsicles4254]

One of the best experiences of my life was riding a train through New Zealand. Wasn't freight but after everyone was seated I went outside and stood in the area that connects the cars. Wind blowing through my hair - what a ride through the mountains that was.

[@phoebeclements9327]

Where was that

[@noomnoom8469]

@@phoebeclements9327 New Zealand

[@jamesconklin9135]

I was friends with skot, he was a great guy. it made me really happy to hear that you were able to go to his memorial.

[@Zarasha1]

Kayla looks like a fashion designer. In the fashion industry she fits right in. I'm so sorry for her lost. You are not cursed Kayla, don't speak that over yourself. It's not your fault what happened to your loves. 🙏♥️

[@brandylara2398]

Feeling Kayla's spirit. I was hoping that u would interview a "train hopper" one day, Mark. I've spoken to a few different individuals who live this lifestyle and they never disappoint with their stories. Loved this one! Great job, Mark. As Kayla said, "u r very good at what u do".

[@newcreation1221]

I know exactly what she's saying about taking things for granted. I was an addict for 13 years and homeless for 3.5. I would go weeks, sometimes months without a proper way to bathe. To to be able to do that now whenever I want is amazing and such a blessing. To be able to flush a toilet, plug my phone in without having to find a public place to do it, to have a phone at all. Running water, a refrigerator and oven, Central heat and air. These are things people don't realize are blessings rather than expectations. I thank God every single day for the small things in life that I have now that I once didn't. She looks so much older than 34. She's had a hard life, but she is full of experience and wisdom.

[@thematriarchy2075]

Such a western thing to say.

[@jennifercochrane8218]

@@thematriarchy2075 and that's ok.

[@jennifercochrane8218]

Congrats on staying clean.

[@newcreation1221]

@@thematriarchy2075 and your point is?

[@newcreation1221]

@@jennifercochrane8218 Thank you.😊 I celebrate 3 years in April and am expecting a baby girl in January. I am blessed beyond what I deserve.

[@toniasilva1377]

I am totally amazed by this woman. She has so much emotional intelligence, empathy and understanding. I admire her ability to love her life the exact way she intends to.

[@tjackson4982]

I have been watching these for years! And I’m talking like every day and letting it play while I sleep at night at times. I always saw her and I was “saving” it to watch when I was “In the mood”. She is AWESOME, so plugged in, aware socially and self aware. I ADORE her reasons about NOT having children. She’s so legit! Love it all Mark! Thank you!!!

[@SoLongMarianne_]

Same here, I'll also listen to them sometimes till I fall asleep. So calming and I love listening to them telling about their lives 💜

[@Bronx-baby]

Funny, I do the same thing

[@justanormalwoman5230]

Would love to sit down with this woman, cook something for her and just listen to her stories. Love her character, her energy, her voice. I never had the bravery she has, I have never been adventureous. Makes me think about what I missed out on.

[@CarrieMilburn]

I love Kayla. She's really intelligent despite her 8th grade education. Her world travels have been her teacher. She truly seems to enjoy her lifestyle and I admire the free spirit attitude she has. However, you can see it's been a hard life. I was surprised she was only 34. ♥

[@JMOlsen_]

There is no absolute correlation between the lvl of formal education and IQ. We merely have a society that is insisting on shaming those who opt out of the indoctrination mill early.

[@CarrieMilburn]

@@JMOlsen_ I agree 100%.

[@richardhiller3135]

Even high,I would question her intellect

[@absinthemindedJ]

She's smarter than most people I know with a degree.

[@emmatador7947]

@@JMOlsen_ indoctrination, absolutely right.

[@kylebissell762]

Wow…. I mean…. Just… wow! She’s gotten to a level and place none of us ever will and she’s done it so authentically! She has found success and it’s freedom to be your most genuine self and love people places and experiences the same way. I hope I am able to take some pages out of her book someday ❤️❤️❤️

[@blaze3fire]

Awww, she's a fearless version of someone I aspired to be at one point. I had a similar life & views & I'm so glad you interviewed her! The lifestyle is so tough & also so so beautiful! Bravo Mark, thank you for covering her 💗

[@lydellrobinson4673]

She does her own thing and isnt hurting anyone. More power to her.

[@johnjames945]

Bless u 4 that comment can tell u are a 😊 soul

[@Ph.D..]

🤦 Speak to a conductor, yard master or train engineer about how this negatively affects them, especially the ones that die, get thrown from the train, mangled & plowed over in front of them. They suffer ptsd for life seeing idiots get killed jumping & hopping trains, & junkies thinking playing on & around trains are harmless. It's amazing how many Americans are truly epically ignorant & think illegal crimes are harmless. I bet you think stowaways on planes would be harmless too & we all know junkies in cars driving are harmless to society. 🙄🤦

[@bawlz1234]

@@Ph.D.. that’s some fake ass bullshit lol

[@Vampire_Sugar_Junkie]

PhD in negativity AND bullshit, very impressive

[@MixonElements]

Kayla needs a tiny house/van she so would love that as she grows into her older age. She would always have her house and her travels. Great story

[@lyndza1989]

well a tiny house is like 60 grand for a cheap one. then shed need a vehicle to haul it..then car insurance..let alone a drives license. doesnt sound like shes the working type and to make monthly payments. prob got shit credit too lol.. jus sayin

[@MixonElements]

@@lyndza1989 lol I thought of that after but maybe she meet a well off traveler with a van and they hit it off. (Best friends or a partner.) Idk. When they share their stories you just want the best for them you know?

[@absinthemindedJ]

@@lyndza1989 you're a realist. But I understand completely lol

[@kavami11jams30]

@@lyndza1989 I got my RV for $10k fixed it up myself. Have a license and a remote job. It can be done. But I think she'd have amazing more difficult time attaining this bc she has no address or residence which you need to get a lievmncr to drive plus pass the written and driving test. Other than getting a job that would be her biggest obstacle. But I've seen it done. Miracles and hard work. Your right though she woukd do better in a van. She should be gifted one that would make it a dream come true. If I had the funds I'd do it for her. She's probably getting physically tired of the train hoppin lifestyle. A van woukd be a great alternative. I mean what's she gonna do in 10-20 yrs from now? Stay in a shelter? That's not a permanent place of residence. If I were her I'd start thinking along those lines bc it takes planning. Just lookin out for ya girl. No hate here. A few of my best friends are dirty kids. Peace ✌

[@kavami11jams30]

@@MixonElements don't allow him to make you feel ashamed for wanting the best for Kayla or any other person. He's selfish and derogatory. We don't need more people like him in this world stay true to your comment. I liked it! And miracles and blessings do happen. Sure not all the time but for those who are well-deserving. Don't ever lose sight of hope. Beautiful things do happen!😊🧡💜💚

[@emilypashak9834]

She's bright and powerful and seems like a good writer and committed storyteller

[@laureldevine]

Wow, life lessons 101 from Kayla. I needed to hear this message today.

[@alexanderross7607]

i have know Kayla and her ex Dougie fresh RIP. She is the real deal and i love that yall hooked up and got this on film.

[@michaeljacobs4546]

I knew a guy in college in Long Island named Dougie Fresh, he was a womanizer and had a drug problem - could it be him???

[@swampdonkey4919]

@@michaeljacobs4546 I remember Kayla as a teenager, right before she started hopping trains. She spent some time in New York, so that could be the same dougie fresh.

[@stompthedragon4010]

I was waiting for her to mention him. She so much reminds me of being young. I commented that she reminds me of Janice Joplin and Me and Bobby Mcgee.

[@swampdonkey4919]

@@stompthedragon4010 Oh wow, I can see why she reminds you of Janis!

[@stompthedragon4010]

@@swampdonkey4919 Always loved Janice from yhe time I was in like 4th grade. Loooonng time ago, lol. She was so talented and intelligent and so much pain in her life. When she was in college some asshole frat boys voted her ' ugliest man on campus'. Unbelievable that the college allowed that. A great loss that she died so young. Of course Bobby Mcgee reminds me of of Kayla and her lifestyle, and Kayla' s looks and personality, but my absolute favorite song by Janice remains Summertime.

[@christian5707]

She seems like she’s still on a good one HOWEVER I can’t help but like her. She’s real, raw and she has a love of her life which most of us who are clean and sober can’t even relate to.

[@emilyflotilla931]

38 years clean and sober here, I'm pretty much settled in Michigan due to family, and arthritis these days, but I've always had a Gypsy soul. Don't know if I would have ever jumped a train, but I might have considered it given the right companion!

[@swampdonkey4919]

Hahaha.... I remember her from back in the day. She always seemed like she was on a good one, but she was indeed very likable.

[@babyinvasion]

On a good one? What

[@christian5707]

@@babyinvasion what what? It’s what we say when we see someone usually on meth doing meth things … “they are on a good one”….

[@loveyoutopieces1779]

This comment hit different. 🎯

[@Veronica-vo6du]

These interviews are very interesting and informative. I've listened to quite a few already but this one with Kayla is just WOW! Thank you for sharing your story.

[@inkystarz]

Its a conversation with a person like this that you’ll remember for decades, a real human

[@lilkingspade]

Dude, it does my soul good to see this kindred spirit shine so brightly. Id love to have a conversation with her. This kinda person is the absolute best person you could ever hope to meet while going along your travels. No matter how long or how short the time is that you get to spend with them, it's nothing but nourishment for the soul. I hope she is able to find everything her heart desires. Nothing but positivity heading your way home girl.

[@JenDoe1]

Train hoppers have always been fascinating to me. Looking forward to this Mark - thank you and good morning!

[@judowrestlerka]

Its a vile, violent society. Look up The F.T.R.A. and guys like Tennessee Bones. Dangerous. Seriously dangerous.

[@MelanieWeed77]

Good morning Jen Doe 💜💙💚💚🤍🤍💛💛💙💜

[@NAT-turners-Revenge]

@@judowrestlerka i work in a railyard.... there are some crazy occurences

[@tubester4567]

I think he could get some good stories from a copper wire scrapper.....or maybe a catalytic convertor cutter.

[@ronprice1819]

@@judowrestlerka I have friends who are among the most decent trustworthy, loyal people I ever met who are travelers. Like anything. Not all bad, not all good.

[@kathyinwonderlandl.a.8934]

I’ve always loved trains and wanted to just travel around but wouldn’t let myself do that..she’s living life her way and she’s happy with life..I admire her. Birds are amazingly intelligent more than we’d ever suspect…everything is not to be taken for granted…what a story💜

[@amyl.7570]

Kayla, you changed my life!! THANK YOU for this "life sermon". I NEEDED IT!!👍👍👍👍❤❤❤

[@peace.404]

This interview was amazing. She’s the kind of lady you hope to fun into one day, randomly. I could listen to her all day, and she dropped some serious wisdom. Thank you!!

[@brini206]

She has had a very interesting life. I wish I had her zest for adventure. For me I find comfort in stability since my childhood wasn’t stable. My husband is the opposite, he loves to pick up and go. He knows he is always wanting to go go go because he doesn’t have to slow down and think.

[@a.wanderer5006]

Yes you are really onto something there, traveling and adventure is like a drug but if you look closer it can be a way to avoid facing difficult things.

[@carmenjazz5546]

You remind me of my sister! We both grew up in the same turbulent environment. Yet as adults, my sister craved stability and has built her life accordingly so. I'm more like your husband or Kayla. I was desperate to get on that plane,

[@omgitstrishaaa6381]

I'm that too bc I came from shattered home not just broken and now I'm married 2 kids house kid dog n a cat I just feel safe n secure in my home that is always full of love and laughter I hate leaving my house.

[@user-sh2mk8ew4c]

@@a.wanderer5006 Every where I go - there I am!!!

[@user-sh2mk8ew4c]

Why did you marry him?

[@bekpalm]

"I have a curse you see because everyone I fall in love with dies". Me too girl, me too...thank you for this interview, bless up.

[@tsopuaifa]

I've had that experience too a couple of times but I don't believe it's a curse, it is just life. Wee are born, we live and then we die. Take care Bek and go out there and love some more as Maud said. Peace

[@sauleeYT]

Wwoof that she mentions is a program where you work (usually in an organic farm) 5 hours/day in exchange for food & accommodation. Great for cultural exchange as well.

[@roymaddocks3184]

Or a temporary worker program with bare minimum pay

[@sauleeYT]

@@roymaddocks3184 there's unfortunately that aspect too.

[@robyn_byrd]

I love her response about having kids. It's selfless to not bring kids in this world when you have another agenda. Edit: Mark...you are such a VIBE!! it says a lot about you, how perfectly perfect strangers can spill their life story to you...ultimately us(millions). Stories that they've forgotten, stories that bring back feelings and emotions that they haven't felt in a long time. Just want you to know I appreciate your work. I tune in every morning, somehow it's become a part of my morning routine before work. I too had a rough past and I've heard my story told by a few of these souls. It keeps me grounded in a way, humbled and thankful.

[@lenaannis8787]

Ι agree Respect for this woman who understood her style of life has no room for children

[@ammasown1]

Truly!

[@robyn_byrd]

@@lenaannis8787 Amen!🙌🏾

[@KathleenMcCormickLCSWMPH]

Sometimes not having children is the most unselfish thing you can do.

[@sfwatxyo2162]

I wish more women could be smart enough to make the same choice so there'd be less damaged humans in this world.

[@megroll801]

She is such a beautiful soul. I’ve watched so many videos from this channel and she just gives me hope. I can’t put my finger on it but I really enjoy listening to her stories.

[@GreenBananaz]

She’s so cool. I’d love to go on an adventure with her. She’s such a free spirit ❤️

[@goffredoify]

I love trains, the views and the scenery are gorgeous. Good girl!! I've been a functional heroin for addict for about 35yrs. 2 marriages with straight girls, not even weed they'd smoked. Both marriages ended because they wanted to have a family with me. But I always knew, deep Inside, it wouldn't be fair on the children. I grow up in a single parent home, I made a promise to myself: if I ever had a child I would have give him/her the world. Nothing less. My addiction, even if under control, would have interfered with that. So my hay off to you my lady for sticking to it. To many state children out there. Children need unconditional Love from day one. Blessings from 🇮🇹Italy. Mark, another great upload, thank you

[@heather_whatever]

Wow, I enjoyed hearing your story-I’m so sorry to hear about your addiction but I’m really glad that you knew AHEAD of time that you don’t want children or unable to give your potential child(ren) the world they deserve. There are so many children in the system or even killed because of the parent(s), or the boyfriend/girlfriend 🙄 which is just unbelievable! I love trains too. You seem like good guy 👍🏻 I wish you nothing but the best!

[@conclavecabal.h0rriphic]

Same reason I’ll never have kids.

[@shelbybrown8312]

I've always been fascinated with train hopping since I was a kid. The family folklore is that my grandfather hop trains and worked his way from Ohio Cincinnati cross country up to Washington State and down into San Francisco California to retrieve the love of his life my grandmother. He took the trip showed up on her doorstep said I love you let's get married and the rest as they say is history. I've always wanted to recreate that journey or at least have one of my own and now that I'm 40 no children no significant responsibilities I inch closer and closer everyday to selling what I have and just walking away.

[@doctormandan8978]

Wow! Kayla, you are an absolute free soul! I wish her nothing but the best in her life. She’s real, raw and honest. What a great interview!

[@leannbrewer2489]

She is definitely a vibe... Love her spirit💛 my grandfather was a train hopper. He spoke the same way about that life.

[@Nessa_1990]

I see a lot of pain in her eyes. Free soul and so much potential. Kayla, I hope you remain happy and give it your all. 💟 I'm so sorry for your losses and traumatic past and wish the best for you.

[@ChopASk8]

Perfectly said

[@Mudsuitable]

OMG she's incredible and I absolutely adore her!! I hope I'm lucky enough to know someone like her one day. Be safe out there whoever and wherever You are. Thank You Kayla!!

[@breatherepeat]

"Life is too short to be pissed off all the time." Thank you Kayla for who you are, for sharing your life with us, and for reminding me of what living is. You inspire me. Keeping you in my heart. Wishing you always the fulfillment of your dreams.

[@ambersolstice]

"Everyone I fall in love with dies." I am so sorry. I can relate so much.

[@MelanieWeed77]

Yess It's so REAL!

[@ladyhotep5189]

Yeah I feel her on that one.😒

[@jessicasteuer8921]

I feel this too ❤

[@TricieBaby]

Same here 😢 They either die or move far away. Either way they leave me.

[@k_roc200-32]

This woman probably has enough stories to keep you occupied for a year, what a colorful character.

[@laurac8659]

During the Great Depression, my Grandfather hopped trains for work! She is amazing, a real adventurer!

[@alexanderiwasa4051]

My white grandfather ran away and rode freight from Ohio to Cali and back just for kicks when he was 15 in 1934,.but it's my understanding people started riding freight after the Civil War.

[@americanpatriot1503]

Its been a long time since I enjoyed an interview as much as this one.This woman is the definition of courage and perseverence..i would relish the opportunity to spend a day with her! Thank you for sharing your life with us!

[@Christy-jo8jp]

Dirty kids/travelers are all so unique and gifted. I love learning from them and hearing their stories.

[@baddestjoanna-michellesmit5578]

Very gifted and spiritual.

[@maineantimaskkarens1842]

most of their stories are bs, the whole subculture is filled with braggarts and pathological liars. lots of rich kids posing as bums. it's a pretty pathetic scene.

[@psychedelicate]

@@maineantimaskkarens1842 that's every scene in some way! they'd good and bad in every subculture.

[@maineantimaskkarens1842]

@@psychedelicate crust punk subculture is filled with hypocrites who illegitimately beg for money at the expense of actual houseless people who could use a hand out. its disproportionately filled with rich white kids who pretend to be poor, no thanks.

[@caroletaylor894]

Thank you Kayla for reminding me to be thankful for the littlest tiny things we take for granted.

[@Guenevere333]

She’s one cool chick. I love seeing a happy person that does what makes them feel good and lives with no regrets.

[@Just.A.T-Rex]

I feel her love and light. Thank you for this interview. I needed this.

[@kindafoggy]

Feeling Kayla describing her acute awareness of the beauty and fragility of our existence in this world-- it's like Rutger Hauer's replicant Roy Batty..."I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain."

[@Jay-hp6pu]

Cool

[@NotRKelly.]

Beautiful comment

[@SmartMoveGraphics]

Very well said.

[@SocketSilver]

Wow!

[@c_mac7773]

Very nice. Could you recommend any books to read? Maybe a few of your favorites. I’m trying hard to enlighten myself and see things differently so I can be a better man, father, and husband. 🇺🇸 💪🏻 👊🏻 🤙🏼

[@sarahluvburkhardt5755]

She makes me miss traveling and going to festivals meeting different people and having conversations. I’ve been in such a rut, she’s reminded me I can get up and go do what I want to do. Anyway proud of you Kayla for getting clean!!! Sending you lots of love with tapering off methadone, something tells me you got this. Also what she said about getting off methadone reminded me…if anyone is on maintenance and turning your life around please don’t let others put you down, get inside your head or tell you you’re not clean and try to push you to do something you’re not ready to do!!! The little things….. taking off shoes and socks that are soaking wet and putting on warm, dry socks….. ahhh it’s the best!!!

[@blaze3fire]

💯💯💯

[@heatherreneeanderson4763]

She is so amazing! Love her energy, I could sit by a fire and just listen to her for hours.

[@RadRedhead222]

Loved this interview! Kayla seems like an amazing soul! It’s hard to find people that are truly happy! Thank you, Mark!

[@kaylanorman9373]

She is clearly super intelligent and has a passion for learning and exploring. I wish her all the best.

[@aisqwe6089]

daughter of a jewish rocket scientist what do you expect? she is probably an einstein that didnt stay in school

[@lolalyle6660]

She chooses not to have children very wise conscious decision given here lifestyle. She lives her life as she wants and helps people she helps people she’s a good soul God Bless Her❤️

[@leahs.n6581]

I've been watching these interviews for a while now and this is by far my favorite. So heartwarming. Bless her beautiful soul , I wish nothing but the best for her

[@kaspotter1394]

Literally one of the most incredible people! Thank you for this!!!!! ❤️

[@anastasiamoreno9074]

Such a free spirit. I know she has stories for days!! Would love to hear more from her

[@ANUNAKI187]

Absolute legend. She needs a podcast.

[@davechristian7543]

@@NatRants have u not listened to anything she has said.

[@Jay-hp6pu]

@@davechristian7543 I’m guessing that’s the reason they’re saying they’d subscribe. What’s your point?

[@Cinnamon666Coca]

abso-fucking-lutely. Love her energy.

[@davechristian7543]

@@Jay-hp6pu if u don't understand my comment sadly u wouldn't understand if i explained it so im not even going to bother as im sure your miles away my-friend.

[@colbyjade4321]

I hope she sees this and gets on board she has a wonderful sense of life.

[@norma11egs]

Kayla is smarter than half of the college majors I know. What a pleasure it is to get a glimpse into her life. If I ever cross paths with her, it'd be like meeting a celebrity. I'd be so stoked. Best wishes, homegirl ❤

[@MsTweakk]

She’s such a breath of fresh air. I really enjoyed this interview. Sorry for your losses, Kayla. Keep on keepin’ on. Choo Chooo 🛤

[@tdstablesinc.4795]

Kayla is so interesting. I love her spirit. Thank you Mark for a great interview.

[@connied.coates9096]

What a precious soul and I too travel on trains often but selfishly in a room on the train and the freedom of a train is so true! I live that she is so grateful and appreciative of all of the little things!! Your videos have given my heart so much joy but also many tears and laughs! Thank you kindly Mark and bless you Kayla! I’d love to meet her❤️❤️

[@taral3746]

I love people who can live so carefree!! She's happy with her life look at her smile when she talks about catching a train and just letting life take her where it may. Good for you Kayla for living your life the way you want to on your terms!! I'm sure she has quite the stories to tell about her adventures!!