TRAIN SEPARATES AT CHEHALIS, WA! EXCELLENT SOUNDS OF TRAIN GOING INTO EMERGENCY. April 4, 2021

[@SD40Fan_Jason]

Not just the sound but the feeling when your train comes apart is something that you remember! Pulling hard and suddenly the whole train lurches forward followed by the air dumping.

[@thelincolnrailfan]

Wow! This just proves how long it takes for a loaded train to stop even in emergency!

[@slicaltimistic1]

🤔Yep. They sure not gonna stop 60-0mph at 110 ft with about a mile of coal.

[@thelincolnrailfan]

Yeah

[@peterjensen6844]

Considering the forces involved it's amazing how quickly it did stop

[@thelincolnrailfan]

@@peterjensen6844 YES!

[@hifijohn]

I counted 44 car lengths

[@jenniferh1416]

Was on an Amtrak train and heard the same sound. You won't be able get the smell of it though. We were informed over the loudspeaker someone had approached the train track too closely. That person was okay but we had to wait for the auto train to be checked before we could resume moving.

[@protosheep]

Train: *Separates* Some random dude: ima bounce this ball

[@paullindberg9230]

Every time I see the LORAM rail grinding setup I see enginuity at i'ts finest. Just great!!! Thanks " VRF

[@paulcrumley9756]

For all the knuckleheads who want to beat a train through a crossing - just realize that this stop is the absolute best the train can do!

[@joemc111]

43 cars, Times what 80 or 90 foot per car. That’s 300 or 400 feet to stop.

[@paulcrumley9756]

@@joemc111 That math doesn't work at all! My calculator says that 43 (cars) times 80 (feet) = 3440 feet. . .over six tenths mile.

[@ikonseesmrno7300]

I told 'em to stop using those darned chintzy Accumate couplers & stick to the Kadee or upgrade so Sergent Engineering. Did they listen??? Lol!

[@steelcityrailfan4808]

Lol

[@WaffleDragon]

They looked like old hornhook couplers to me. You gotta watch out for those old Tycos.

[@JF-lt5zc]

@@WaffleDragon Nah, if it was a horn hook, it would have never let go!

[@dart157]

The separation of the train sounded like musical instruments at the end. What a spectacle! All we need is some sparks flying from the brakes!

[@whiteknightcat]

I actually prefer the Symphony for Flange Squeal myself.

[@Sigil_Firebrand]

Rare to catch an event like this on a railroad that isn't CSX! Quite a gem to behold!

[@VampFaye]

Amazing! Hearing all this is so much better than any ASMR!

[@K-Effect]

Wow, that is a lot of energy to turn into heat

[@ohgary]

Or for electricity for battery powered autos...

[@brutechurchill]

Imagine the heat created to make the energy to get it moving.

[@JoeyBPhotography]

Amazing! Sounded like musical instruments just before stopping.

[@laurielarson1196]

Hey, this is my neck of the woods! Lewis county WA. Groovy!

[@IvisH23]

For it to happen again on one of the cameras. Trains cover hundreds of miles it could've happened anywhere else.

[@steelcityrailfan4808]

Yeah

[@brandontrent4392]

I see the Troublesome Trucks are at it again

[@Sam808Sch]

I'm from there, I saw a northbound unit coal with a Mexican loco trailing a couple of days ago.

[@JF-lt5zc]

Nice! I caught CP 6644 down in Kalama last week. So cool.

[@deauvilledad07]

Great sounds, nice capture, well done 🤓

[@washingtonstaterailfanning6027]

I saw this live

[@taslimchoudhary1253]

Awesome Video 🚂🚂🇮🇳🚂🚂

[@sschmidtevalue]

Nigel Tufnel would love the "11" on the volume level icon. 😆😆

[@railfanmiguel4422]

Great vídeo!

[@chuckwhite3033]

Why doesn't the momentum carry the separated section forward into the stopping main section? Is there an emergency brake that goes off in the separated section as well?

[@christopherlong2301]

Yes. All the air gets dumped and the train comes to a complete stop. If not, the rear section could start to roll backwards if on a grade.

[@MakeItSo-ThisIsME]

So if its either an EOT (End Of Train) Device or DPU, emergency air brakes are applied to every car, basically stopping them from going any further. A little momentum is still there as due to speed and velocity; once the friction of the wheel to rail is equal, the cars stop. Since the backend that separated only had so many cars, it stopped relatively soon after the EM brakes were applied.

[@stephendisalvo1341]

Air keeps the brakes shoes off the wheels, their default resting position is applied. So when the hose parted the air escaped from both segments and the brakes no longer had air keeping them off the wheels, and the segments stop.

[@royreynolds108]

@@stephendisalvo1341 No, there is a reservoir on each car that provides the air to the brake cylinder. The air brakes on a train charge the train line to 90psi (freight) which fills the reservoir and releases the brakes by dumping the cylinder which is opposite truck air brakes. The valve on each car that controls this is called a triple valve and it does it by variations in pressure between the air line and reservoir on each car.

[@funnelfan]

I count about 44 cars passing from the time the air dumps until the train stops. That works out to 2300'

[@jamesghiorzoe107]

Did the conductor have to walk all the back to the separation?

[@christophervalkoinen6358]

VRF need to start a playlist of train separations. It's insane that these happen so often that any of them get caught on camera.

[@MichaelMitchRailfan2009]

This is actually second time that train separates cars first one in Kearny, NE back in November 2018

[@THEATREofPAIN270]

Hate to be that guy but Kearny is NJ (my home town), Kearney is Nebraska. Be well.

[@sloop_jon_b]

there was a recent clean separation on the Santa Fe Junction High Line

[@ACs_Trains]

A separation happened at Folkston, GA as well.

[@MrCameronsterling]

Oh wow....Easter Sunday wasn’t so happy

[@markfrench8892]

That's railroading for ya. 😆

[@Madonsteamrailways]

And how did one coal wagon uncouple from the train?

[@partymeeple5633]

So many flat tires!! Are operators not expected to keep their stock in good order in this neck of the woods?

[@kcsthebetterway]

Look how long it took to stop! Did anyone count cars after they lost air!!

[@Doggo2004]

Amazing

[@logantails613]

OMG ANOTHER ONE!!!!!

[@rodin9075]

I saw this live cam yesterday

[@jandejong2430]

If the 2 uncoupled halves brake differently is there not a danger that they will run into each other? Layman...

[@jameswolf195]

Fantastic

[@سهيلهاحمد-ش5ي]

جيد جدا

[@kensbackshop6399]

That was a ez mate coupler that broke kd couplers dont brake

[@delurkor]

I remember MR published a test of KD vs the other plastic couplers. The Brand X couplers were breaking at few pound test weight. When they tested the KD, they maxed their scale before it broke. If I remember correctly the scale went to 15 lbs, and they were well past that in weight before the knuckle broke.

[@kensbackshop6399]

@@delurkor you are right i do remember that

[@scottfw7169]

@@delurkor Ah, yes, now that you mention it I do remember that article!

[@jamesalles139]

thanks

[@johntitterton4840]

Interesting the engineer must have cut out the DPU on the hind end before backing up. Had he not, both sections of the train would have reversed I imagine. I had this happen to me while in train service once. High mounds of snow caught a cut lever, parted the train, front of the train stopped faster than the rear and we ended up against the bulkhead when the hind end crashed into the front part of the train.

[@stephendisalvo1341]

Could it cutout automatically with the emergency air release? then have to be cut back into dpu mode?

[@r_mon_e]

Whenever a DP is separated from the head end it is put in set out mode so it will not respond until it is put back to normal and detects air from the head end.

[@Littledog0808]

I wonder what came off first, the coupler or the air hose

[@aaplies8879]

Coupler separated, cars left behind stop slower bcse of inertia, pulling the air hose apart. I watched this live and it was my first train of the day. On radio they discussed things about the knuckle and informed the dispatcher about the incident. Nothing was broken so they backed the train up. "it's like the pin was pulled out" -conductor

[@VerilyVerbatim]

And yet, even with the automatic systems kicking in, it still took over 2,300 feet for the first train to come to a complete stop (44 wagons, 53ft per wagon) after the airhose noise. This is why there are so many warnings about not trying to beat the train at crossings. It might look slow on the approach, but there is absolutely no way that trains like this can possibly stop for you.

[@williamsnyder623]

Hi, where is all the coals going too.

[@joshj4579]

Roberts Bank In BC

[@bocan3189]

Symphonic!

[@RailfanAlexGonzalez]

I cannot believe there was an emergency at the camera!!!

[@specialed6357]

They planned for it to happen there because of the camera. They meant for the separation to be directly in front, but you can't get that precise with these sort of things. Just close enough.🤪😜

[@Lakeside_Rail_Productions]

@@specialed6357 I don't think BNSF would delay a train on purpose just to entertain VRF watchers.

[@partiallysd]

@@Lakeside_Rail_Productions you really missed the joke there bud not gonna lie

[@Lakeside_Rail_Productions]

@@partiallysd i know

[@SgtChip]

They got thrown into emergency fast. At least we know the brakes work now.

[@janpayne2877]

As long everything ends well.

[@DavidWsTrainVideos]

Ha I caught that Coal train the next day heading to Roberts Bank BC

[@whiteknightcat]

Thus disproving the myth that it takes a long, loaded train a mile to stop. It only took about 0.4 miles to stop. Also, at 5:00, we see something that was testified about in the April, 2022 STB hearings. Those handheld radios were not meant to transmit over the distances now taken up by the longer trains being run under PSR. The conductor is desperately trying to increase the talk range by holding the unit as high as possible.

[@drboze6781]

Ai-yi-yi-yi-yi-yi-yi! Well, them's the breaks, er, brakes!

[@MrSteelman335]

When you hear the air being dumped either by the engineer or being caused by the separation of the train, you better hold onto something if your riding the train.

[@Greatdome99]

I was sleeping in a Coast Starlight roomette when we busted an air hose and went into emergency south of K Falls. My feet were firmly planted to the forward wall! Psgr trains stop much quicker than frts.

[@boeing747-8]

@@Greatdome99 I'm pretty sure Amtrak can confirm that.

[@TimSmith-uc4pk]

How often does this happen? Are they made from cheap steel?

[@trainman927]

1:51 that sounds like a song

[@jwbrown1959]

I wonder how fast it would have stopped had it been empty?

[@michaelb9629]

I only saw the pipe train live picking up the crew member.

[@jonglass]

I thought DPUs were supposed to prevent this sort of thing?

[@steelcityrailfan4808]

Same

[@sloop_jon_b]

might just have been a random uncoupling. It happens.

[@dangeissinger4906]

That's what I thought.

[@Acehitman369]

@@sloop_jon_b I think you're right because it looks like the guy never fix anything he just hooked up the train again and they went on their way

[@kelsea6591]

The train is always sooo loud here in Chehalis, I didn’t know there was a specific reason for those other weird noises they made lol

[@yvesd_fr1810]

Always amazed to see how many trains "separate" in the US while travelling ! First I think that the maintenance of the "cars" might be overall limited, second my feeling is that the fret trains are generally too heavy thus imposing huge constraints on the couplers, last, I wonder whether the existence of automatic coupling may not generate some weaknesses related to hard coupling events that do not exist with manual couplers.

[@NE-Explorer]

Now that didn't take a mile to stop

[@lospereye]

I'm also realizing how insanely long this train is

[@ChadsRailfanExperience]

At least it cut a couple crossings for them

[@craigzahniser4702]

Oh!! I hate it when this happens!

[@ryanridder4576]

That’s a nightmare!

[@onebadbirdy]

when i was a kid we used to have sp run down are track where one of box cars decided it wanted to run away from the train where they had to catch it

[@navajocapi]

Took 42 cars length to come to a full stop.

[@solarusthelonghaulerrailfa3226]

Must have been a hangnail

[@richardbowles7690]

And, now we have trains wanting to become cars? Sheesh. What is the world coming to?

[@rachelolvera9435]

The bars are thrown off .

[@MovetoSEPRAILnTheRealRajo6466]

You never seen those events everyday

[@ditchpatcher]

Pretty rare to see a BNSF AC4400CW

[@jackulmen5791]

0:53 Air Loss!

[@rsandrews8115]

I never heard anything but the brake line disconnecting.

[@slumdogpreacher6964]

Oh, Oh; they lost some of their load. Some of the cars "divorced" from powered section.

[@aperfectspongebobpopsicle2221]

It was on easter!!!

[@hvcomputech]

Volume to 11 and no cursing? 😂

[@davidrennicke9852]

Ouch.

[@Madonsteamrailways]

Where’s the emergency noises? Now I get it!! And what was the emergency? Man overboard?

[@SgtChip]

The noises are the brakes. Emergency is a term for full force brake application, for use in, you guessed it, an emergency. This emergency was the train snapping in two, causing air lose and emegency braking.

[@OfficialDJSecurity]

Hello

[@pacificnorthwestandsouther703]

dangggggggggggg

[@TimSmith-uc4pk]

This is why I would not want to be a conductor. You gotta fix that thing in rain, sleet or snow. No thanks!!

[@DonVideoGuy007]

Since the height reached replicated "cell phone thrown down violently to the ground", me thinks that was a bouncing cell phone, and not a bouncing ball at 04:52 .

[@Railfan225]

What????

[@stevesmith4771]

oops!

[@江藤俊弥-r4m]

なげーよ

[@fredthompson4568]

Broken coupler

[@DonVideoGuy007]

Nope... the coupler pin got raised.

[@geoffreylee5199]

Learn to spell.

[@frankie_g8096]

Hi

[@HughMartell]

Bye