I won’t lie, I am and am not surprised with how close the S1 got to Big Boy near the end. The giant 6-4-4-6 was always going to be slow to start, with unbalanced weight and giant wheels. But it’s maximum power output is at high speed, and even at medium speeds it’s higher that the Challenger or the 4-8-4
@Mainrod-productions Жыл бұрын
But In real life the s1 would be kind of under powerd because it would have problems with wheel slipe because the trailing trucks and leading truck would take all of the weight and all the driving wheels would slip because there would not be a lot of weight on them which makes them kind of under powerd
@joeythecat7482 Жыл бұрын
Fun Fact: It's speculated the PRR S1, the real life one, broke Mallard's record
@samirsorte2002 Жыл бұрын
Seriously 😳 that's soo cool
@joeythecat7482 Жыл бұрын
@@bluecomet1982 Did you miss where I said speculated?
@wolfzillaproductions4563 Жыл бұрын
Yeah there have been claims that the S1 touched 140 mph, but they have never been confirmed
@tristanperina1557 Жыл бұрын
@@wolfzillaproductions4563The fastest it was ever rumored to go was 156MPH.
@tristanbentz224 Жыл бұрын
@@wolfzillaproductions4563 same with the T1
@godzilla8229 Жыл бұрын
The reason the s1 and the up 844 caught up is because they are passenger engines/ mixed traffic engines
@zxcadicandra6722 Жыл бұрын
A BIG mixed traffic engine
@stellambetu5139 Жыл бұрын
The s1 was not built for strength im surprised the 844 is losing to the s1 😮
@iowahawkfan693 Жыл бұрын
I agree, 844 and 4014 usually lead trains together and both work well as one
@shingoshoji2771 Жыл бұрын
@@stellambetu5139 it's because it has marginally better tractive effort and a fuckton more speed
@VeshremyEnjoyer Жыл бұрын
And from what I know, pass. steam locos are build for a little bit of strength and a LOT for speed. And once they build up that speed, they keep it.
@ForTofersSake Жыл бұрын
The Big Boy is articulated, so it did not come close to derailing. The front curves without the rest of it.
@VeryCool_PAT Жыл бұрын
The top speed of the UP big boy Is 80 but it’s recommended to only go 60 and the Challenger Top Speed 70 recommended 50 and for the S 1 100 to 140 and for 844 100 to 120 Top speed
@crocowithaglocko5876 Жыл бұрын
Not trying to be annoying, but the challengers regularly operated at 70 mph on passenger trains
@YourAverageTrainFan Жыл бұрын
@@crocowithaglocko5876hes talking aboute the freight operation
@steveisnoob1694 Жыл бұрын
Freight engines vs passenger engines. The PRR S1 with its 4 driving axles stands no chance against Big Boy and Challenger with heavy freight trains. Also, i think the trains used in this race are short for what a muscle engine is built for imo
@VeshremyEnjoyer Жыл бұрын
The Union Pacific big boy would easily be able to pull 100-200+ pieces of rolling stock with EASE.
@rayyans46624 ай бұрын
No up to 1,000
@rayyans46624 ай бұрын
It's my favorite train in the world
@Amtk-712 Жыл бұрын
Our freight trains are extremely important but people don’t care about them. Most people wouldn’t be alive right now if it wasn’t for the railroads. Great video as well!
@GeorgeHarrison1962 Жыл бұрын
Can already tell this is ganna be a damned good race!! Also keep up the goodwork!
@harrisonfarnsworth4739 Жыл бұрын
Also can the strength challenge be done uphill? Now that’s a real challenge.
@KCSRailstudios Жыл бұрын
Love your videos! Would really like to see more of these! The Southern Pacific "cab forward" would be a very entertaining contestant against the Big boy.
@TrAiNZiLLA Жыл бұрын
My bet was on Big Boy, not just because it’s the Strongest but it’s 1 of my all time favorite trains, but the 844 is awesome too when it has never ever been retired and also the PRR S1 is very Good-looking and I quite like the Challenger too, But Big Boy is the Best out of all 4 of them🚂🇺🇸
@jaxonsyme61369 ай бұрын
I agree big boy is my favorite train
@Latte-z1t Жыл бұрын
I’ve watched your content since 4th grade 🤩 I’ve stopped watching when I was in 6th grade, but found you out of the blue. Keep it going!
@chargoesboom69906 ай бұрын
7:45 yep that is basically what you'll see in America if you come here Oliver
@diegopantoja1214 Жыл бұрын
I think these four engines should do a speed challenge I’m curious if the 844 would/can beat the PRRS1 at 200%
@stellambetu5139 Жыл бұрын
I know what you mean but it is unfair because the 844 has more power
@levimccallum7722 Жыл бұрын
America's loading gauge allowed us to pull off some bs that European railroads couldn't conceive.
@dimos1427 Жыл бұрын
one of your best vids (my opinion) please do more strength chellenges
@GamerKiing-tb2sw5 ай бұрын
Big boy was supposed to be the strongest cause in real life. He pushed an entire freight train
@harrisonfarnsworth4739 Жыл бұрын
I call world strength championships!!! Steam vs diesel vs electric; USA vs UK vs Germany vs Japan!!! Well done Mr. Oliver!!! Side challenge: is an E2 tank engine stronger than a Pacific A4 as from the movie “Hero of the Rails”?
@MrBnsftrain Жыл бұрын
This was quite enjyoable to watch. You should do this with some American diesels next, maybe the ES44AC, SD70ACe, DD40AX, and AC6000CW.
@brycelacsina4063 Жыл бұрын
Do you mean DDA40X
@mulletmayhem3812 Жыл бұрын
And the SD40-2
@DavidR0cks14-onYT9 ай бұрын
@@mulletmayhem3812The SD40-2 is smaller than all the Engines listed on the comment, so the it doesn’t count
@Squidynx Жыл бұрын
The reason why the PRR S1 and the UP 844 have a higher top speed is because they are on a rigid frame compared to the articulated, detached frames of the UP Big Boy and Challenger. Big Boy and Challenger can handle curves better due to their detached boilers from the front trunks, but their top speed is significantly nerfed in the process
@luisandreiariola9864 Жыл бұрын
I love Union Pacific Big Boy on Strength Challenge because Big Boy is the strongest and quicker starter 🥰😉
@rocmonki2099 Жыл бұрын
Laser Jet I love your route building tutorials
@sudrianrailwaystudios676 Жыл бұрын
That was a great race.
@FtwentytwoRaptor Жыл бұрын
i love your channel!!!
@ShannonWooten Жыл бұрын
Also fun fact. The S1 is also called the Torpedo.
@rafifgalih5611 ай бұрын
Moral to this race: Sometimes sucess is not needed to surpass but determination leads to sucess
@louisthetravelspotter Жыл бұрын
Brilliant race
@DaveTheBlueEngine284 ай бұрын
9:23 XD hope you enjoyed your cookie
@169894734 ай бұрын
i would have liked to have seen an alleghany in the lineup but this is Cool!
@ShokoLeiri42011 ай бұрын
9:23 that was so random but funny for no reason 😭💀
@Greatwesterntrainspotter Жыл бұрын
Lovley video mate
@Axllovestrainz143 ай бұрын
You’re my favourite train’s KZbinr😊
@Khalif-AllahEntertainment11 ай бұрын
This is interesting and entertaining. This is why Big Boy and Challenger are built for strength and acceleration due to their small driving wheel. S1 and FEF are built for speed because of their large driving wheels.
@Ryanbotchway9526 Жыл бұрын
This is going to be amazing
@jordaneriksson5417 Жыл бұрын
Big Boy is HAULING, HES JUST HAULING XD (Completely S Rank tier)
@mr.mckinneysautomotivecent851 Жыл бұрын
Pease do something like this again I loved it.
@ClinchfieldRailfan921 Жыл бұрын
The fact the S1 was designed to haul deluxe passenger trains instead of freight is kinda funny
@michaelschultz5127 Жыл бұрын
Here's a fun fact for you ,the big boy can pull 5 miles of Freight at 80mph, an can pull that same Freight at 3% grade at 30mph or 40mph.
@parkerheinle9132 Жыл бұрын
Let’s be honest America does like to be a show off with it’s locomotives Rockets, and such
@Charlie-t7x9y10 ай бұрын
Bro is so close to 100k he’s at 99.9k
@josephspadavecchia92652 ай бұрын
The S1 is the best kind of steam loco cause it’s super big super strong and super fast but it’s tide with big boy for my favorite
@solarflare623 Жыл бұрын
What if you did a race where you are actually driving a train and racing against another player?
@thunderchief7256 Жыл бұрын
Interesting
@harrisonfarnsworth4739 Жыл бұрын
I think he did. He drove a Challenger vs a programmed Big Boy years ago.
@WhisperingWiltshire Жыл бұрын
@@harrisonfarnsworth4739Same Thing with Driving Golden Eagle VS A lot of A4’s
@Brians2019 Жыл бұрын
Whooo PRR!
@d4rKm4mez4 ай бұрын
Ngl but the UP 844 and PRR S1 look beautiful
@juniortremillo8124 Жыл бұрын
Hey mr Oliver did you plan to do this video Just because i told you do it or it is that you like the idea yes or no?😅 i Just want to know:D
@David-ut6qw Жыл бұрын
Fun fact about the big boy, on flat ground he can pull the equivalent of 16 statues of liberty at once and get some speed to
@Ultra-Beam747 Жыл бұрын
The Union Pacific Big Boy was actually meant to haul VERY long trains up steep grades. And when I say that I mean it could go up a 2% grade with a 5 mile long train and still pull it.
@IsaakthePilot Жыл бұрын
Are you going to be reviewing that Eurostar in the background?
@BCoFD510 Жыл бұрын
Nice model railroad bro
@_sui07 Жыл бұрын
keep it up my g
@cadespencer6320 Жыл бұрын
You should have included the Pennsylvania class Q2 which had a whopping almost 8000 HP
@coltonkoepp6557 ай бұрын
Fun Fact about the Union Pacific Big Boy it's the strongest steam engine ever built and was specifically built for handling the steep inclines of the rocky mountains passes and was pretty much one of the main reasons the Allies won during WW2 the big boy hauled over 100 million tons of cargo from coast to coast during the course of America's involvement in the war
@chrismrugala6696 Жыл бұрын
Hey Oliver just wanted to say the UP 884 is an FEF3 class 4-8-4 class northeren(thats what we call them in america) just so u know mate i love the vids
@somterimamdpaul3381 Жыл бұрын
Can you have a Grate 9f race?
@brenzelatior Жыл бұрын
That tight curve part looks like the horseshoe curve
@annhinchcliff5460 Жыл бұрын
the S1 did pull freight near the end of its life
@steamfan4014 Жыл бұрын
They are all beautiful locomotives but Big Boy will always have my heart
@Arielisagod5 ай бұрын
Make them race
@SuperMario-it5kp Жыл бұрын
Big boy still won
@Thattrainguy4334 Жыл бұрын
9:24 it's a biscute Lazer, a biscute
@nicholireyes5533 Жыл бұрын
Big boy was literally built for this, that's why it's called "big boy".
@Bowingkidlandon11 ай бұрын
Race starts at 3:10
@jadenbishop338811 ай бұрын
Not even the S1 with its power and speed could beat the Big Boy's incredible strength
@greenturtlgaming2554 Жыл бұрын
Prediction: First: S1 Second: 844 Third: Big Boy Fourth: Challenger
@andrewcoates30507 ай бұрын
did you know the s1 does have a nickname, it was nicknamed the big engine due to its size
@stee007haworth3 ай бұрын
GOO BIG BOYY
@michaelschultz5127 Жыл бұрын
You should try the same with the winner here, an then the one with English ones then. You should have the 2-10-10-2 , which is bigger than these are by far.
@biancadarosa905310 күн бұрын
Now do a Niagara versus Super Hudson versus C&O 614 versus C&O 1601 strength challenge
@CelestialMemorialCo Жыл бұрын
YES AND THE BIOG BOY WAS BUILT FOR LARG CARGO RUNS FOR ALOT EVEN TANK TRAINS SO IT WAS BUILT FOR THIS
@stellambetu5139 Жыл бұрын
The s1 is surprising me 😮
@jimkeery19639 ай бұрын
The big boy has got scraped
@snoapyfluff Жыл бұрын
NEVER underestimate slow Locomotives
@Bud-uz1bw Жыл бұрын
844 was for short passenger trains so its not good with long frieght trains
@MrLycan777 Жыл бұрын
That's how it caught up to the big boi
@elingenierogamer50909 ай бұрын
Many don't know this fact: Big boy's full speed is of 90 mph/160 kph if it's pulling passenger cars
@SkyeSoarer04 Жыл бұрын
I would have included 611 and the new York Central hudsons
@Per-MichaelJarnberg Жыл бұрын
Let’s get on with the strength test locomotives. They’re very strong powerful locomotives in America. Both challenger and Big Boy are freight service trains that is the reason why they can pull a lot of cars while the PRR S1 and 844 are passenger and mixed freight
@N.Y.CHudson Жыл бұрын
Nice
@TrAiNZiLLA Жыл бұрын
The PRR S1 shouldn’t have been an Express Freight engine aswell as a Express Passenger engine, despite being so big, strong and fast
@KrazyKin9 Жыл бұрын
You should try tug of war but if it don't work maybe try tow with your irl model trains
@joshuapanz5681 Жыл бұрын
I want to see it again, but with British Steam locomotives
@jenniferrussell5927 Жыл бұрын
and also the up844 also did passenger services
@looneytrainsdinosaurs11 ай бұрын
The contest of strength
@DokkanGamer01 Жыл бұрын
Lazer when was the last time you raced the super class 47?
@masgamingmvp Жыл бұрын
Please include Indian train ❤❤❤❤❤❤
@gundamwarrior4 ай бұрын
Should have chosen a PRR Q2 if you wanted strength. While the S1 is fast, its not technically a strong train. Passenger trains are fast yes, but if you want raw power should've chosen the PRR Q2. Also the Virginian 2-10-10-2 would give big boy a run for its money.
@avinashbpatil54447 ай бұрын
My favourite train up big boy😊
@David-jt9nt Жыл бұрын
You should know BigBoy could go 80 MPH (128.7 KPH) safely with a load
@ThatRailfan7 Жыл бұрын
Should of included the southern pacific cab forward
@Ellite_Dark_Cameraman Жыл бұрын
Big boys very strong but I think that if race track was longer prrs one would surely win my favourite engine is the big boy and prrs one
@7b7BenGazing9 ай бұрын
4:40 We call them cough drops or Lausenges (spelling?) 🇺🇸
@cameronbrownlee3089 ай бұрын
Streamlines gonna always catchup
@2025SPACEDUDE Жыл бұрын
You should have added Santa Fe 3571
@ItsYaBoi123 Жыл бұрын
The lesson is to not underestimate the UP 844 hahaaaaaa
@TheAceofIron Жыл бұрын
fun fact: american steam trains are so damn reliable because the boilers are almost 10 inches thick on the walls.
@jenniferrussell5927 Жыл бұрын
Fun fact about the up 844 my grandpa was the fireman
@tylerknoll8135 Жыл бұрын
The big boy the the challenger they were built to do this
@ChoeneSeabi Жыл бұрын
Oliver whydontyou do a race with the union Pacific challenger vs the union Pacific 844 race
@steveg957 Жыл бұрын
A single big boy locomotive would pull fright trains up to 3.5 miles long
@creativeraj-lt1wb Жыл бұрын
Bro , please Race All world train and Please please please please please Add VANDA BHARAT EXPRESS Train from India 🇮🇳🇮🇳