High Heart Rate, Sweat Rate, Newbie Pacing, and More - Ask a Cycling Coach Podcast 416

[@gregdoucette]

Mine higher inside and I use 2 fans.

[@buckcitycrunk]

i sweat so much indoors, coach greg. props to you for sticking with it.

[@Chefandrewski]

Me too I live in Florida right now at 6 AM in my garage. It’s 81°.

[@brianrowbotham4010]

Coach Jonathan saying he’s going to do Unbound surprises me. But I’m excited to see what bike he chooses to race on.

[@BayouJosh]

Shout out Boise. That Bogus ride is a grind. So fun! I wish my heart rate was only 150 climbing bogus. great morning listen. thanks as always.

[@TylerSmith-sl2cf]

How WOULD Betty Crocker frosting be for race fuel?! Asking for a friend 😂 7:56

[@ryanmussett1016]

In terms of HR inside v outside I've found the opposite to be true but it's also likely because I'm experiencing the opposite to what you are Jon. I usually train at around 5am and here in the UK, regardless of the time of year it can be pretty cold in the morning and it's generally quite a windy country so you likely always have at least a steady breeze but more often than not 10mph+ wind where I live. Even with sufficient cooling I find myself way warmer indoors where I experience much higher HR - this usually can be seen from Z2 to Tempo but then anything Threshold and above it falls in line

[@sanchorides]

Great take on heart rate indoor / outdoor stoke as always, keep up the good work

[@Theparadoxd7]

I'm surprised unless I missed it, when they were talking about increased HR outside, nobody mentioned wind? It's gotta be that or hills.

[@willfromfreeport]

Mine is higher outside due to the cognitive load like Jonathan was describing. Handling, avoiding obstacles, thinking too much. Also, heat definitely isn't doing any favors outdoors versus training with 2 fans and an a/c indoors lol. I also noticed my HR and perceived effort higher during workouts than during some races due to overthinking during training for whatever reason lol.

[@RussellGernaatPLY]

it’s not inside vs. outside, second workouts in the same day tend to have a higher hr for same wattage….heat as mentioned is another factor….lots variables

[@dustinsanders2175]

Thank you for posting this episode. I look forward to listening to it, but the video presentation makes it really difficult to concentrate on what is being discussed. I am going to have to turn off the screen and just listen to the audio. What happened to the standard layout?

[@doobi.sikleta]

How do I lower my heart rate? Consistent training? I am only 3years in cycling 2 years is serious with very little proper training more on just commmuting 3 to 4x a week 50k 50k and 35k and 38k. In that 3 years I stopped like almost a year. I just returned and can't ride outside due to taking care of my baby (ofcourse our kids is the priority). I just ride outside whatever the chance gives me, so I only train indoors and I had 180ftp when I returned, weight also raised from 73 to 85. After like not more than 2 months of training I went down to 75 and ftp now is 202. Max heart rate usually 170 little to sometimes 180. But before with 180ftp my heart rate always reaches 180 to 190+ my max is 198hr. I feel light headed and floating. Especially when I tried racing in zwift category D with my 180ftp I averaged 220w in the race 11km long I finished 2nd but felt ljke so dying so so dead sitting in the floor gasping some air. My maximum watts (sprint) was not more than 400w. Now I can zprint 600 to 700 but I want to improve more and I just simply cannot wait. So I wanted to learn some tips advices on how to improve not fast but improve big. Like I am willing to train just to reach my goal to sprint at 1k watts and climb longer with higher intensity with not maxing 170hr. Help, please!

[@TheFloridaBikeVlogger]

for me in here in FL it's pretty much life or death on these roads but I need to do better forsure.

[@MartonMerritt]

What up, Cole!! See you in Durango. This is a real good dude, y'all...

[@JFomo]

I was on Strava and I saw a guy ride 109km, over 1900m elevation and average speed was 31kph. I looked at his heart rate and he was in Zone 2 for about 98% of the ride. How do I train so I can climb in Zone 2 heart rate?

[@oldanslo]

Anyone can climb in Zone 2. Just put a huge pie plate on the back and crawl up the hills.

[@JFomo]

@@oldanslo I actually did a Z2 hill climb today. It was VERY slow but I kinda enjoyed it.

[@330_Crew]

Higher HR outdoors, what about air resistance/drag? Indoors your only pushing the pedal for a given watt output, outdoors to get the same wattage you have to crank at same effort plus any additional effort to overcome aerodynamic drag.

[@oscarmarroquin4751]

Watts indoors and outdoors are the same! Your power meter measures how hard you're twisting your crank arm (or wherever it's mounted) and multiplies it by your cadence over a given interval. So 200W = 200W regardless of where you train.

[@330_Crew]

@@oscarmarroquin4751 I agree. My point is to maintain the same speed outside as inside, you’d need to push additional watts at the crank to overcome air resistance.

[@shawnarni8101]

As a former soccer player VO2s are waaaaaaaaaaay easier than Thresholds. I h8 thresholds, so mentally taxing. Any tips?

[@Porkfu]

What does having enough sodium intake feel like?

[@oliveoil2x]

Nice takes.

[@The80shilling]

I'd be interested in heart rate as it relates to older riders that still can reach high heart rates relative to the supposed 220 bpm - age. At 61 years old, I ride Mountain Bikes 3 times a week, each ride is around 20 miles with 1,800 feet of climbing, and I do one 50+ mile ride per month. My heart rate can still hit 190 bpm, and my average is around 153-162 bpm for the entire ride. This has been the case for the last 18 months or so, and as I keep training, I get faster and stronger; some people have told me that they think this is not a good thing at my age, what's your take on this? I have used chest straps, and two different smart watches to measure my heart rate, so I think the measurement is correct. My resting heart rate can be as low as 43 bpm, with a resting average of 48 - 52, depending on some variables like temperature and whether I drink alcohol. Comments? Theories? My cardiologist gives me a checkup twice a year, and my heart is in great shape, so I have no worries about this being an actual problem.

[@HeibesHealth]

The whole 220 - age metric is bogus. Max HR is very individualistic. I’m 39, and my HR reaches a max of 188. Another girl I know that’s the same age as me that’s also very fit has a max of around 215. I’d say that if you work out as much as you do and your cardiologist says you’re good, I wouldn’t worry about it! 😀

[@BillBrinkop]

I’m 56 and my resting HR is also in the 40’s and I’ve seen 196 max HR this year running hill repeats. Everyone is different.

[@The80shilling]

@@BillBrinkop Agreed; it does seem incredibly variable though, to the point where it makes me really question the validity of the 220 - your age figure, even as a generality. I just haven't seen any real data that relates to older riders, and whether continued exercise throughout our lives pays any big dividends, and whether this ability we have to still hit high heart rates is indicative of anything in particular, or is it just an anomalous metric with no known benefit. Thanks for the reply by the way.

[@The80shilling]

@@HeibesHealth Thanks for the reply; I'm just hoping to find some studies on us older athletes, that have any pertinent data regarding some of these metrics, and whether we can draw any conclusions from it.

[@HeibesHealth]

@@The80shilling It would definitely be interesting to see! Keep up the great work that you’re doing! 😀

[@401farmer]

Dont know why so many people hang up on heartrate.

[@MrPeperoni79]

Sweat rate correlates to power. For each watt mechanical energy the body produces, 4 watts of thermal energy is produced. So at 300W, you produce a whopping 1.200W of thermal energy. In order to keep your body temperature within the limit, this thermal energy needs to be transported outside of the body and sweat is the carrier used for that purpose. So fit people do not sweat "faster" strictly speaking. But they sweat within their comfort zone because already there they produce for example 200W which is 800W of thermal energy do get rid off whereas Joe Average with his 180 Watt FTP, his comfort zone being 100W only has to dispose of 400W thermal energy when he is in his comfort zone.

[@tednruth453]

My HR is always high when Ivy is around 😍

[@jpmoosic]

My HR is high when I read cringe comments.

[@tednruth453]

OK, love you too x

[@don_marcel]

terrible layout

[@taylorrollins5576]

What???!!! Red Hot Chili Peppers is not music???!! Unsubscribed! 👎. Jk, I’ll let that one slide this time.