Trans Activists Need To Stop Bullying Detransitioners

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[@paradoxexposer4820]

They seem to have a very irrational fear of them. Guess we should call them Detransphobes. At least that is accurate to the definition considering how very irrational their behavior is towards such a group going through real trauma and depression. While all the “phobia” slurs they hurl at everybody is nothing but a child accusing you of being an abuser because you simply said “no”. While they are actually targeting real victims and bullying them for existing despite their denials of their existence. Again, very irrational. They are afraid of their existence because their existence contradict their claims and ideology. #Detransphobe

[@paradoxexposer4820]

This platform keeps hiding my comments. Guess I’m not allowed to call these people ebohpsnarted(spelled backwards). Even they that’s how they are behaving by bullying victims of misguidance.

[@paradoxexposer4820]

#DetransphobiaIsTheNewBigotry

[@paradoxexposer4820]

Just did a test. I’m not allowed to say aibohpsnarted(spelled backwards). They keep censoring the truth. They remove my comment if I mention the name of this platform. So much for “freedom of speech”.

[@paradoxexposer4820]

They just removed another comment of mine. Been taking screenshots too. They really are trying. I’m not saying anything offensive. The fact they don’t want me mentioning the name of this platform should tell you something.

[@annawiseman8650]

Three year ago I thought I was a trans boy, even had a new name and tried new clothes, turns out I was mentally ill and not comfortable in my body yet. Now Im the most feminine girl youve ever met. Crazy how society pushes this stuff on us

[@Crowfeather-lq4nd]

I had a similar experience when i was ~12. I thought my unusual interests and different way of thinking meant that I wasn't truly a girl. Turns out I just had undiagnosed Autism.

[@thatfrogboi4477]

I went through the exact same thing and it was awful cuz I always tried to make myself the victim. Now I just have autism:)

[@priscillajimenez27]

In the 90s I was a tomboy. Imagine if I was born after 2010 with all this nonsense they're pushing on kids

[@TryMyMartini]

@@priscillajimenez27 Bring back "tomboys!!"

[@taki7546]

I was also a total tomboy. In Kindergarten I only had male friends, didn’t care about how I look, played in the dirt, only had dinosaur and dragon toys and watched the „boy“ version of Disney Channel (Disney XD. Wild times) Guess what I‘m still female yayy

[@vvx-]

It saddens me how hard it is for de-transitioners to feel and be accepted in communities

[@Chriscraft50]

Isn't that what got some of them to transition in the first place? The umbrella academy is finally a place to feel accepted, until it wasn't.

[@jamesneese7663]

because they are seen as traitors. That simple. They are seen as traitors the way that many influencers in the body positivity movement who run into health problems as start dieting are treated as betrayers who are "sabotaging" the movement....

[@Tylahh]

​@Chriscraft50 LOL girl umbrella academy is foul 💀 😂😂😂

[@N0EL-7007]

Yep. I don’t feel accepted but at this point idc. I avoid that community, unless they’re sane. Luckily you can’t tell I’m a detransitioners unless you knew me in the past so I guess it’s not too hard for me.

[@Featherfinder]

@@N0EL-7007 It is not too late for you at all! ♥

[@britpoppansy]

I'm a trans dude, but I feel terrible for the detransitioners. Why would you hate on someone who is suffering?? Jeez!!

[@lauralumi9466]

Most of us don't! I finally thought I found someone who represented me in all this madness in this guy, but in reality, maybe he was well intended in the beginning, but now, just like Blair White, he's a puppet of extreme right, just look at the amount of hate in the comments, not directed at trans people who are actually attacking detransitioners, but at ALL trans people, it saddens me to think maybe even that, his stance and all is caused by those bad apples too, feels like we have nowhere to find comfort😓

[@user-et4mh1kz4z]

this channel is pretty good at it. within the first few minutes they engage in bigoted language.

[@lauralumi9466]

@@user-et4mh1kz4z Exactly

[@ruthgiles8926]

​@@user-et4mh1kz4zwhat bigoted language?

[@nickh.4917]

I’m a gay guy and I’m neither old nor young. But when I was young I would put on my sister’s or mother’s dresses. That annoyed them but I liked it and it was fun, probably because I’m gay. If I were a kid today I might be in a hospital in pre-op. I am so glad that my Mom just said, “Cut that out” and not “Cut that off.”

[@user-tb9uh9gt7t]

Oh, ouch... hilarious but heartbreaking comment.

[@flipsyde336]

Jebus must be so exhausting trying to explain to people what the heck you are or trying to be or whatever. I got confused when he was explaining what the initials were

[@soulesskoma]

Ridiculous slippery slope

[@nanaanan4731]

This movement honestly feels like more of an attack on the LGBT community DISGUISED as LGBT activism. But it’s not the real LGBT. It’s almost like me putting on a disguise as you, then committing crimes so that it looks like it’s you doing it. It feels like, at the root of it, is an underhanded attempt to get people “back to the way it used to be” by making LGBT look so crazy and dangerous that people reject it altogether. People are being hurt, and it’s being blamed on the LGBT community. Why would there be an attack on the LGBT community? 🙋🏾‍♀️ Glad you asked. 😊 Patriarchy. Domination of women. LGBTs and feminism don’t support the patriarchal conspiracy to control women. Men have infiltrated the feminist movement, and we’re seeing our rights blatantly violated. “You don’t want to give me access to you, I’ll take it.” I can almost see them sitting around a table thinking bout it. “How do we get more access to women?’ “Well, they trust other women, so we’ll just say WE’RE women.” Then they went on to change the definition of what a woman is. Of course, women (puppets) politicians (Australia) are at the head of promoting it, so we don’t get too upset about it. But think about it. Why would XXs decide to attack the rights, safety, and sovereignty of women? As women we are very much aware of the dangers of XYs being around us when we’re exposed. We would never decide to create laws that let penises in women’s bathrooms, changing rooms, and locker rooms. Common sense would tell A XX “that’s not safe.” It’s not unsafe for a men (XY) when a trans man is in the bathroom. And they’re not the ones FIGHTING to be in those private and vulnerable spaces. Autogynophilia anyone? IJS. XYs are pushing this movement, and gaslighting us every step of the way. I think this is designed to be so egregious, so disruptive, so outrageous, and so horrific that as a society we become anti-LGBT. That leads to being pro-patriarchy, anti-feminism, and we’re rolling back women’s rights. Men are crying more and more about women’s autonomy. XXs are making more money, getting more education and opting out of marriage and having babies. That’s why they’re starting to change divorce laws, so women can’t get out of it as easily. It’s not the XYs they’re trying to trap. It’s the XXs. They’re trying to make things so dangerous for XXs that we run to the XYs to protect and save us from the XYs in dresses. That’s my theory. They want XXs to need and depend on XYs again. It’s a round about way to get XXs to fight to be under XY rule/oppression, out of fear.😰 I hear it online more and more. “If you don’t need us, then we’re not going to protect you.” And then they keep talking about the single lonely XY epidemic. XYs blame it on feminism, and XX’s autonomy. Women don’t have to have a man to survive, like they did when women couldn’t own property, have a bank account, or a credit card without a XY. This is what they call “the good old days.” Marriage was a XX’s saving grace, and she was stuck. Laws allowed XYs to beat their wives. It was called marriage, but it was really slavery and all an XY had to do was make money and be an XY to have a wife. But now XXs are waking up to the master (XY)/slave(XX) dynamic of marriage, and rejecting it. They’re waking up and seeing it for what it is. It’s not the romantic fairy tale they grew up believing, which is what attracted them to it and made them value it. A lot of XXs still feel validated by the title of wife, but the tide is quickly turning. It’s a threat to the patriarchy, but I guess they figure we’ll listen to the guys in dresses who are better at being a woman than the original? 😂. You know what they say. “You can fool some of the people all of the time. You can fool all of the people some of the time, but you can’t fool all of the people all of the time.” They’re trying it, though. That’s why they’re focusing on children. You can fool them MOST of the time. 😢😢 This makes me sad. I feel sorry for the children, and the next generation. The manipulation is real. If you got this far, thanks for listening.

[@Anna101shark]

I see what you're trying to say, but clothes don't define who you are. You wear dresses all you want, love! This is what worries me about activists. They associate material things to gender. Feminine men exist, and masculine women (me) exist.

[@Cecilia-nq5xl]

detransitioners should be supported 100%.

[@GanondorfsWife]

I support them with all my heart. I will defend them with all I got.

[@N0EL-7007]

Thank you. Seeing the stuff people say about us really hurts. 💛

[@GanondorfsWife]

@@N0EL-7007 If you ever need help, please ask. I'm what they'd call "CiS gEnDeR dur hur hur", so I'll be even more of a "harmful cis" to help lift the voices of detrans.

[@karen5916]

you again! hey! 🩷

[@DavidKen878]

@@N0EL-7007Why are you letting it bother you? You've got to learn how to ignore stuff.

[@StrawberriesinnSummer]

They dismantled the LGBT community.... what we see now is something else. They infiltrated and destroyed. Twelve years ago we fought so hard to make clothes, fashion, hobbies etc non gender specific so everyone could enjoy everything, we fought for people to understand that you cannot control your sexuality, what you're sexually attracted to, or who you love, we fought to be able to marry the one you love no matter if same sex. Love is love. We fought SO hard for that. Now, in 2024, if you aren't sexually attracted to someone they try to convince you that it is a choice you've made and that it means you are phobic of them. Watching everything get undone in such a short period of time is absolutely devastating. We worked so hard.

[@Chriscraft50]

I am phobic of them. Just not in the way they think. I'm scared of the damage they do to kids and LGB people. I'm scared, angry and disgusted.

[@ruthbueneman541]

How can it be that there is less ability now to be gay or lesbian we have gone backwards.

[@jamesneese7663]

@@ruthbueneman541 because positivity is everything. The Message is everything. Anyone who disagrees with The Message is The Enemy... there was never a terf issue until the activists came along and forced the matter.

[@notyourordinarygran]

As an older bisexual woman, apparently I am a TERF. I disagree with puberty blockers and transitioning children. I don't accept that self-identification means males can invade female spaces. I believe you have the right to love whoever you wish, but you also have the right to say "no, thank you" without being insulted and harassed.

[@infjelphabasupporter8416]

I'm a feminist, and this is what we should be fighting for. I've been called a terf, but trans people are perpetuating gender stereotypes.

[@turdferguson9356]

this is how religions treat apostates...

[@glenmacnicol7825]

People on the left are practicing religion and they excommunicate the apostates.

[@Rat_Queen86]

I was going to say….its very cult like when it gets like this

[@viviannichols3582]

YEP

[@tintinismybelgian]

@@Rat_Queen86 A lot of ex-Muslims get told that they were never "true" Muslims. It's crazy.

[@N0EL-7007]

@@tintinismybelgiansame thing with Jehovah’s Witness. People who leave or get kicked out are then shunned by the community and their family isn’t supposed to see them anymore. I try not to trash religions but it’s suspicious and you can really see how it aligns with the lgbt communities cult behavior.

[@n3wb1shness]

"Accept my truth while I deny the truth of others!" I wonder if they understand the irony.

[@chefnyc]

We can start with ditching gender “affirming” therapy and going back to the usual diagnosis process. If I go to doctor and ask for opioids, the doctor doesn’t start the session “affirming” that I need drugs. And going to an activist doctor is like a young girl going to a witch who believes in human sacr!f!ce.

[@jenniferscott375]

It's malpractice to affirm delusions. 😢

[@user-et4mh1kz4z]

transmedicalist bigot detected. yes only doctor can gatekeep your identity.

[@BouncingTribbles]

I'm so glad you and Blair are championing these victims. So many people in the medical industry just care about their paycheck.

[@zweij]

Blaire!

[@alex-qd6of]

That's an awfully cynical take. They probably think they're doing what's best for their patients, since that's what the medical boards, psychiatric bodies etc, say are best practices.

[@Notmyname979]

@@alex-qd6of As a nurse, I can tell you this is not true. There's a ton of corruption in the medical industry & nurses & doctors get pushed all the time by administration & regulating agencies into doing something that is not what's best for their patient to make more money. If anything goes wrong or the patient decides to sue, we're the first ones to get thrown under the bus. So many doctors & nurses that actually try to do their job right & advocate for the patient end up getting burned out or fired.

[@Tylahh]

⁠@@alex-qd6ofand your take isn’t cynical? Denying obvious facts are more harmful than pointing them out. If you think doctors don’t want you to come back in for multiple appointments or consultations you’re fooling yourself.

[@jamieg2658]

Urinary issues, mastectomy, and you’re right - the most depressing part is the potential infertility. I’ve been off T for 5 years and unable to get pregnant. They say you should be able to stop it whenever and be able to conceive without issue and that clearly isn’t the case for everyone

[@TheRisky9]

The sad part is they knew this! Women who took recreational steroids had all these problems. And those changes were permanent! But yet, somehow being trans, none of those consequences apply.

[@ContentMadame]

It's crazy that they'd say that when women with PCOS, which is a hormonally androgynizing condition, have lower T levels than trans masc people on HRT and usually can't get or stay pregnant. The medical community has to know it's BS.

[@harleyquinn6692]

"Just because I'm happy with my transition doesn't mean I should not care about the people who are not happy with their transition" 💯👏 You're a real one Marcus!

[@melfreemans]

My friend is a medical malpractice attorney....he said they're getting ready for the thousands of cases coming up....

[@hugovandyk9918]

Always judge a cult by how they treat apostates.

[@n1fffan]

when detransitioners tell their stories, and get attacked or it, they are being attacked for THEIR LIVED EXPERIENCES... let that sink in, especially since that's the buzz word these activist types like to throw out when they themselves want to shut other people up. most detransitioners aren't looking for activism themselves, they're just putting their stories out there. and when you're told "these people only detransitioned because they weren't getting the support ad acceptance, they'd still be trans if they did", consider what is being said...

[@carnivoroussarah]

Veganism is like this too. They deny my lived experience of how it destroyed my mental health and how I can only eat meat now.

[@daerandir1459]

Detrans regret is, ironically, additional evidence for gender dysphoria! Whether the source of suffering is the disconnect between the mind and the body as born or as medically altered, it is basically the same thing. It is fundamentally inconsistent to take seriously gender dysphoria for one group and not the other. In fact, given that our best knowledge currently points to a large portion, if not a great majority of people who experience gender dysphoria eventually becoming comfortable with their bodies, we are quite probably creating far more people who will suffer lifelong gender dysphoria by fast tracking medical transition than under the previous "watchful-waiting" approach, that would only transition people whose dysphoria was severe and persistent.

[@jenniferscott375]

Teenages are generally uncomfortable with their body changes. It's normal and we grow out of it. Stopping puberty because someone is uncomfortable with the changes is ridiculous. It's malpractice in my eyes.

[@jessymfwilson]

I have always received more hatred, negativity and judgement from my own community than anyone else. It’s incredibly disappointing what has happened to the LGBT community. The bullying and harassment has always been there. They just aren’t ashamed to do it out loud now.

[@Chriscraft50]

TQIA+ community are doing this. LGB are no longer accepted by them.

[@dougcherney7981]

So sorry, you can find happiness

[@JMM777-td6nk]

and also the fact they call anyone "Phobic" for not agreeing with their beliefs in LGBTQ+ stuff. Some people just don't believe in Agree to Disagree but some do.

[@natterbattersplatter]

i’m a detrans female and the amount of hate and threats i have gotten from trans activists is insane. the trans friends i had at the time shunned me, and many even wished death upon me. it isn’t even just trans activists, the doctors and therapists turn on you too.

[@ArachnerdGC]

The doctors and therapists don't like to have their consciences pricked, don't want to have to stop and consider that maybe they helped you make a mistake, maybe they shouldn't have given out the testosterone quite so freely. They'd rather you just went away. It makes my blood boil. Whatever happened to "first, do no harm"?

[@natterbattersplatter]

⁠​⁠@@ArachnerdGCwhen i initially transitioned at 13 (started with blockers then test 2 years later), they ignored every single red flag in my case. they did huge amounts of harm to my young mind. i detransitioned at 23 and now they REALLY don’t want anything to do with me lol

[@jenniferscott375]

Damn...I am so sorry that you were mislead. You were born perfect. ❤

[@mickyr171]

Thats a cult like quality to belittle those leaving the group

[@Meowchang22]

Honestly, they shouldn't have changed the criteria in the first place. I transitioned when i was 18, but i should have gone through at least two years of therapy b4 medical transition.10 years later and ive been detrans for 3 years. Im glad it works for some but i was never trans.

[@CherryHotSauce]

I am so sorry that this happened to you. I hope you are doing alright.

[@lauralumi9466]

You suffered from medical negligence and should seek justice, I'm really sorry that happened to you. We trans people are on your side, despite what has been said about us, be strong!

[@savvystarfire6667]

Today I got asked by an online friend (who i haven't heard from since December) if I was a 'transphobic man' I told them I was not and that I simply agreed with some of what some 'gender critical/terf' article said but would never wish any kind of hate or harm upon trans people. They said good because we're friends and they would be devastated. An hour later, i think they blocked me. I'm finding it increasingly difficult to be in online spaces for my believes etc. People not being able to even be friends and hold different opinions makes me so sad.

[@nourishingbee6832]

In Canada, you can't have an opinion at all. If you don't stand for anything in the woke community, you sometimes can literally face charges. Charges for having your own opinion. It's actually so hard to comprehend how that's real.

[@TheBaumcm]

It says more about your “friend” than you. People should be allowed to respectfully disagree. We are each, fundamentally, unique and have our own experiences and preferences which shape our choices. Why anyone would think that everyone will agree is beyond me. If we don’t understand our differences, if only one group has the “privilege” of having their differences accepted, it breeds resentment which is divisive.

[@ArachnerdGC]

@@nourishingbee6832 Canada has become quite the scary dystopia in recent years. Scotland is trying to follow suit, but England seems to be seeing sense. However, we have a general election coming up soon and Labour will probably get in and reverse all the progress we've made in the past year in getting a handle on trans ideology and putting an end to transing children. I've never liked the Tories, but I fear what will happen on the trans ideology front if Labour do get in. I feel so politically homeless!

[@nourishingbee6832]

@ArachnerdGC awe man well I feel your pain! It's a hard battle when you don't agree with something but you are silenced. I am a Christian and I do love everyone. But I've seen people speak up about their beliefs and literally get expelled from schools. It's become a sad country. I pray this doesn't happen to yours!

[@suesmith8326]

You know Marcus I admit that I’m not up to date on all these words or “woke” culture. been a therapist for 30 years and have only had one client who suffered from gender dysphoria. So many have other conditions and disorders but the pain of gender dysphoria is so real and deep. Children DO NOT have the maturity to make life changing decisions nor the tools and correct information. Doctors ,parents have a responsibility to protect those who cannot protect themselves.

[@CrankyBarista]

The fact that therapists like you who have been in the field for 20+ years cant keep up with these ideologies proves how out of control and off a cliff this has all gotten. Thank you for staying sane and holding your ground when it comes to treatment and common sense. We need real adults who take their oath seriously now more than ever.

[@jenniferscott375]

Affirming delusions is dangerous.At no time in history was that a therapeutic method.

[@DuncanDonDuken]

Hey Marcus!! I would love for you to make a video commenting on "Transmaxxing." People are openly talking about transitioning because they believe it will give them a better life, and not because of having gender dysphoria. I genuinely believe this is another reason why most people are becoming trans are identifying as part of the lgbt++++... Because it's easier in our society today if you are a part of the "community" rather than just being white or straight... It's harming not only our youth, but gullible people of all ages. It's horrifying, and needs to be addressed by people like you, Buck Angel and Blaire White. Thank you for being a voice of reason in this insanity 🙏💕

[@jacksonfrawley]

I’m a detransitioner, got t in 10 minutes at children’s mercy hospital at 17yo. I filled out a GOOGLE FORM. The doctor came in and was like yup! You are trans!

[@jamieg2658]

One therapy session at age 17 for me!

[@monicanavarro2906]

Wow... that's sick. I hope you're in a much better place now. 💛

[@ArachnerdGC]

The TRAs always like to claim that "it never happens that way". There are too many people who have lived the experience to believe them anymore. TRAs are masters at gaslighting, but the more people speak up, the faster the tables will start to turn on them and these ten-minute-T "consultations" (I use that word loosely) will be a thing of the past.

[@ContentMadame]

That's CRAZY to me! I remember in the late '90s when I met my first mtf trans person. She had to undergo three years of therapy before they'd even consider starting hormones, and another two years before they'd sign off on bottom surgery. She'd known since she was a toddler that she absolutely DID NOT WANT her penis, but was still grateful that they made absolutely CERTAIN that they were doing the right thing by committing to her transition. It's astounding to me that kids can walk into a clinic for the first time and walk out with hormones. I didn't believe it was happening when I first heard about it, but it's undeniable now. Like, WTF is wrong with our medical system that these activists can just walk all over the health and safety of children?

[@jenniferscott375]

It used to take years, now 10 minutes. It's diabolical.

[@victoriabites20]

This was spot on, Marcus. Why do medical professionals pretend to not know this?

[@ArachnerdGC]

Follow the money.

[@thatoneguywiththekeyboard9366]

One thing that I noticed a lot of people failing to acknowledge is that even male detransitioners face a significant amount of consequences at times. I for once started transitioning at 13-14, stopped after almost 3 years both puberty blockers and estrogen. Even though my puberty had resumed once I stopped, my voice sounds like I’m still 14 (I’m 20 now) my legs don’t work as well anymore and over the years had to deal with a significant amount of health issues, issues that surprisingly I didn’t have before going on hormones. Now if I want to sound like people my age I have to fill myself up with testosterone, which honestly I’m not willing to do seeing the catastrophic effects Estrogen already had on my body.

[@TheBaumcm]

Except your body is made to function with that level of testosterone so you shouldn’t see the negatives. Think about it like an older guy going on T. It doesn’t harm him but rather improves body function and brain function back to previous levels.

[@sheerbeauty]

Hope we get to hear your story one day, thatoneguy. Sounds like your puberty was messed up.

[@thatoneguywiththekeyboard9366]

My main concern is that I’m not sure about the kinds of effects it could have on a person that actively takes medications for specific health issues, which aren’t few and some (if mixed with a certain amount of hormones) might give me results different than the ones I was hoping for. For one I have heart problems (although I’ve always been a sporty person, I put heavy strain on my heart during my teen years due to bulimia and daily purging, that for the duration of two years. I have been going back and forth to the hospital because of it and was told that while taking T would overall benefit me, it would also increase my heartbeat and make the risk of a heart attack/stroke bigger, which seeing how poorly I’m doing right now is not a risk I’m willing to take. Since then I’ve gained a healthy weight but still I’d rather heal what can be healed first before even considering going on T

[@thatoneguywiththekeyboard9366]

At some point I did think about talking about it on ig, or even my new yt channel, but seeing how the internet is I’d rather keep it quiet than put myself and my family at risk of getting Doxxed by activists. It’s happened once already (and I didn’t even talk about my experience, just commented on how life shouldn’t be put on hormones) , and I’m not doing that again

[@caledonianamerican41]

Typically people with valid points and well done research don't immediately break down into attacks

[@jamisonfawkes8537]

i never understood the hate from the “trans” crowd. i’m a detrans woman and still have compassion for transsexuals and believe in their rights to medically transition as adults. we need to bring back safeguards for this whole thing. sending love ❤

[@ArachnerdGC]

Bring back safeguards, exactly! They've turned the term "gatekeeping" into a "dirty word". We NEED gatekeeping, it's what keeps us safe, particularly keeps CHILDREN safe. That's what gatekeeping is for, stopping children from making huge mistakes and keeping them safe from people with nefarious motives. Children can't consent to these life altering medicalisations. If we continue to allow this to happen, next thing will be that children can consent to other things, like sex. Unfortunately, certain groups of adults have been trying to normalise their proclivities towards children for years and the trans movement, with their distain of gatekeeping and belief in children being capable of consent, is like a gift to them. For the record, I am NOT trying to insinuate that LGBT are pee dough files, but I AM saying that pee dough files will use trans ideology to their advantage.

[@Thomas-zx2yt]

I am glad I grew up in a time before internet and tic toc. I remember seeing Christine Jorgensen on the Virginia Graham show in the 60's and thought I have found the answer to my dysphoria...as a happy 66yo gay man, I am so glad I was not growing up in these days. BTW, I later met Christine in person and she was a lovely person, when I told her my story she said "it was the answer for her" but not the answer for everyone. She also had great insight on adopting children

[@lorrieprothero2175]

I used to have nightmares I cut my long hair short and extremely relieved when I woke up. Imagine never ever being able to wake up from a real life nightmare of making permanent changes to your body that you can never recover from.

[@joeyk5]

👏 Marcus, the voice of reason

[@pwallace5359]

He gives me hope. I’m so glad he’s brave enough to speak the truth.

[@individualperson4090]

He's got balls to speak about this stuff.

[@FablesTold]

They can't show any actual kindness to Detransitioners, because they're proof positive that they don't actually believe in what they're saying. It's always about how terrible it is to be in a body that doesn't feel like you're own,and we have to go immediately to the most extreme, invasive, permanent way to fix it. But when you bring up how awful it'll be to make those changes, and come out the other end feeling even less like your body is your own, and now there is _nothing_ you can do to actually fix it... Also the fact that every single argument they make about how we have to allow transitions or else a transkid might off themselves, we can say the same thing about why we can't allow it because a detransitioner might do the same when they realize what was done to their bodies.

[@ArachnerdGC]

That whole self-deletion narrative is just gaslighting bullshit. Studies have shown the risk for that type of behaviour actually goes up AFTER transition. It's just emotional blackmail used to try to get their own way. It's despicable that some doctors and therapists use it to get parents to get onside with transing their child.

[@user-mf3xs3mh6u]

You have one of the best platforms on all things trans or non trans. YOU have a wealth of knowledge and much caring and compassion. YOU are wise and knowledgeable and offer much help to people from all backgrounds who need and want to understand. Many thanks.

[@moonshineblues204]

My daughter's 15-year-old best friend is detransitioning🎉🎉🎉🙏 Lucky for her, her parents never let her take meds

[@ruthbueneman541]

I was confused about Chloe Coles biological sex and so I googled her name and asked what her biological sex was or is? ! They were evasive. One article spoke darkly about how conservatives have used her case to promote banning gender affirming care to children. This is slimey. I am just asking for the truth. I remember when the truth was not political. Another thing I realized today was that my sons played with Transformers. It shouldnt be a situation now where so many people can fool themselves about their sex. You are brave and you are honest thank you. Obviously people who do not have gender dysphoria should not be able to transition when they are children. We can be free to be who we are but not to fool ourselves that we can actually change our sex. This is a nightmare situation where people are now such lonely children they abandon their bilogical sex.

[@JoeStanek-vu7rl]

Cloe is a female.

[@JoeStanek-vu7rl]

Cloe is a female.

[@twistedtypos2029]

I think this will be a crisis in the future. So many people are not getting proper help.

[@ArachnerdGC]

It's a crisis right now!

[@gissellest333]

They are more hateful than I initially thought. Funny how they are always bitching about being "hate" yet they are Hateful and insensitive towards the detransitioners.

[@arielle]

❤❤❤❤❤

[@S_H9260]

Loved your last video. ❤

[@kristentaylor5359]

So are these people who are making fun of those who realized they made a mistake by transitioning actually saying they should just stay in their trans bodies instead of correcting what was done to them? No real transsexual sees it as an attack on their choices if someone else says their choice was a mistake. Geez, imagine the hate you must have in your heart to feel that way about people who had mental health issues that weren't solved by transitioning

[@S_H9260]

Yes, it's wild to see how many people take it as a personal slight when strangers do things for themselves that they don't agree with. They need to accept that not everything is personal.

[@pameladuente5449]

I suppose the problem is that they only care about their own benefit. If detransitioners exist, transphobes would use that against them, saying that they were all just fake and confused with their genders. It's hypocritical if you ask me, they've done the same toxic behaviors that they always criticize transphobes for, hating and degrading one for choosing the right identity.

[@patrickkelmer6290]

It’s been 8 years already since the Trans-craze truly got big in 2016 - just think how many made that big step in these 8 years and regret it.

[@night_owl365]

I was on Lupron for endometriosis. Which is one of the previous medical uses for the puberty blocker drug class. It effected my life forever. Spinal degeneration, chronic pain, mood disorders. This is what these children have to look forward to along with wrong sex hormone side effects.

[@Kathleen-vl5ws]

I would love for you to react to the trans vs. detrans jubilee episode from a while back It was an absolute sh*tshow. No compassion or kindness on the trans side. I think the animosity toward detrans people comes from a place of not being secure in one's own transition. You are secure in yourself as a trans man, so people saying transitioning wasn't right for them doesn't threaten you. To trans people who aren't secure in themselves, it feels like a personal attack on their identity.

[@smustipher]

If someone wants to be accepted as trans, it's hypocritical for them to criticize someone for discovering that they want to detransition. If you are secure in who you are, someone being who they are should not pose a problem to you.

[@xsatisx]

one thing i can’t wrap my head around is why trans activists “transition” if they don’t have gender dysphoria? i’m a woman and the thought of changing my body like that makes me feel very uncomfortable, and i’m not even very feminine. i just don’t understand how they are so comfortable with doing that without gender dysphoria. to feel special, maybe? to fit into a community? to use the “trans identity” to get privileges and attention? even if those are the reasons, how could some clout and validation be worth modifying your body parts in ways that are unfixqble?

[@ArachnerdGC]

A lot of it seems to be the urge to "belong". TRAs paint themselves as one big happy family, accepting of all. It seems a lot of them start out as "non-binary", because you don't really need to go down the medical route with that but you still become part of the "family". But more and more, I'm looking at "non-binary" as a sort of a "gateway drug" because soon, the NB label isn't quite enough to get the same hit of attention, and I've heard of people being disparaged for not "committing" by going medical. As much as I hate to use this term, it does seem to be a "slippery slope".

[@sheerbeauty]

I think they are using hormones as another kind of drug to "feel different". Escape problems by creating new sensations and new problems.

[@karen5916]

I’m a former trans kid. I would like to share my story someday, but i am afraid to because of these activists. Thank you, marcus, for giving a voice to the voiceless. 🩷

[@sirbiff10]

its funny and sad how the trans community preaches acceptance but wont accept when people want to change back to what they once were or at least as much as medically possible.

[@winstonwolf6791]

There is going to be a legal reckoning for the activist groups and the doctors and drug manufacturers for the damage they are doing to gay/lesbian kids and kids with psychological issues. The class action lawsuits will be massive and I hope jail for some of the worst offenders. Much of this is straight up child abuse.

[@ArachnerdGC]

And Marci Bowers is at the top of the "should be in jail" list. Throw Jazz Jennings' "mother" in there with Bowers too. The pair of them have done so much to normalise what is little more than child a bus e. (spelled oddly to dodge the delete-o-matic-bots.)

[@lizardfishbird]

I thought I had gender dysphoria for years, although it turned out I had uterine fibroids. I was actually experiencing gender dysphoria as a side effect, but not for the reason I thought - rather than being a trans man, my body was forcefully masculinizing me (uterine fibroids "eat" feminizing hormones and I had basically no estrogen/progesterone in my body at point of discovery) and I only discovered that this was the true cause of my dysphoria after having a hysterectomy and being prescribed feminizing hormones because my body now struggles to make its own. I never sought a medical transition - mostly out of fear of what the people in my life would think - but the effects of the natural testosterone my body overproduced destroyed my body. I don't mind some of the changes; I like having a deep voice and being tall and having wide shoulders. But the excess body hair and acne and effect on my metabolizing and internal body temperature regulation are awful. I'm going to be on androgen suppressants and feminizing HRT for the rest of my life, among other medications to deal with the weight gain and body hair, and I have trouble going outside in hot temperatures because of the effect on my temperature regulation in conjunction with the fact that some of my medications make this worse. I can't imagine how much WORSE all this would have been if I had actually gone on testosterone at some point

[@TanyaRando]

When they say that they believe blindly in their doctors, it annoys me, they’ve chosen a doctor who has beliefs that align with their own, not someone who really does know the up to date research, and who is going to get mental health help for you FIRST, medical professionals change their minds all the time, as more research is done, when longer term effects are found, etc. The people who are the most vocal and shout their b.s from the rooftops are the ones who are unbelievably dense about reality, who shout buzzwords and slogans but haven’t looked further than the words. There’s a hardcore of activists who are totally spoiling the community for everyone else.

[@TheBaumcm]

I haven’t believed blindly in my doctors since I was 6. No one has your best interests at heart and knowledge of your body more than you. And to your point, research information changes depending on where the funding is.

[@TanyaRando]

@@TheBaumcm research always has an element of bias, which is why it’s important to know how to critically read the papers.

[@S_H9260]

It's really sad there's so little empathy for people in their own community. I want the fewest number of detransitioners possible. I want the people who transition to be happy and feel like they are in their right body post transition. The best way to do that is to make sure they have gone through a rigorous process prior to any medical intervention. The goal should be to have the number of detransitioners be closer to zero. Not through intimidation, threats and fear, but because they have come to the decision after careful thought and preparation.

[@koalapapu]

Let detransitioners speak 📣 ‼️

[@GanondorfsWife]

Matt/Amy gave her statement and documentary on the horrific affects of the testosterone therapies. It's completely ruined her body, and it was so sad to watch, but so so so important to see and learn about.

[@harleyquinn6692]

They preach love and acceptance until you go against anything they say.

[@zerosaki6170]

This Video is so on the point and clear in refuting bullshit ... i just love it. Big thanks for this one Marcus ☀ Keep up the good work. For mental-health, for real coexistence and safety for trans and non-trans people.

[@foxwoodjones9831]

I love how the group (LGBTQ majority) that touts themselves as most tolerant and open is so cruel and hateful to detransitioners and anyone else who dares question any of their ideologies. What happened to love and tolerance? Oh, that’s only for people that believe exactly what you do? Got it. 🙄 So annoying. Thank you for speaking out, Marcus. It’s going to continue to take people like you, Blaire, Buck, Arielle, & Brad- those who are within the LGBTQ community to speak up and out about harmful practices/behaviors and make the change that is so needed. We support you. ❤

[@Crowfeather-lq4nd]

One time I saw someone comment under a video saying the very simple statement of "Biologically, there are only two genders" and people in the replies were vicious. One person called the commentor a "subhuman coward". Doesn't seem very "loving and accepting" to me.

[@positivelysimful1283]

I don't know why they think it is such a terrible thing to have people wait till adulthood before medical interventions, get a lot of objective counseling for a while to help deal with any other potential issues that being trans won't fix, and only taking the next step when actually necessary. Like even for real trans people, maybe just socially transitioning will make them happy-- why push them too quickly into medical treatments that may later give them complications? It's ridiculous.

[@missluna5]

I think we need to drop the word “gatekeeping” and use “safeguarding”, instead because that’s what we should all be doing, protecting the rights of our most vulnerable members of society.

[@Kylie-ey6sb]

i think thats a great way to word it, it doesn't seem negative, as gatekeeping can often associate with negativity

[@19751222]

It seems that they want others to be as miserable as they are now.

[@rebeccao8895]

Indeed! We all need to support detransitioners. They’re not traitors. They’re humans who are suffering.

[@orikapach7156]

Your content is awesome keep it up❤❤❤

[@nugzmedallion8929]

A very good friend of mine literally felt pressured, as a late teen/young adult, by his peer group at the time (in a small California town,) to be trans, and for a long time, he was. This group of people were constantly doing an array of different drugs from benzos to uppers to psychedelics to dissociatives, and with the group of people he was with, he felt compelled to fit in with them as, after a while, it was the only friends he knew. Well after he had separated from that group and was sober for a time, he realized that he didn't feel that way. The moment he told his "friends," about it, not only did they abandon him, but went around to his other friends and made sure to paint him in the worst light possible for no reason, and none of his old "friends" want nothing to do with him now. Thankfully, no parents in his life allowed him to permanently mutilate his own body, but I can only imagine how hard it is for those that had irresponsible parents that allowed their children to take puberty blockers or whatever and permanently alter their body chemistry and physiology, before realizing late that that's not who they really are. I have the utmost sympathy for that situation since I've seen a version of it, so good luck and god bless any dealing with that!

[@macgyversmacbook1861]

I had a hormone imbalance because of precocious puberty and I felt like absolute shit until going on birth control, I can’t imagine how painful going on testosterone is and actually STAYING on it, let alone regretting it later on

[@robbieh5727]

I can't believe anyone would allow a child to choose something so serious as to change their bodies. Brains aren't even fully developed until 23/24 years old. I've known trans people since the 1970s due to progressive parents who loved everyone. I'm a man who happens to be gay and old enough to have seen the evolution of the LGBT movement. The trans people I know really suffered with their bodies in a way that's different than just body image. How did we get to a point where a "feminine" boy or "masculine" girl have to change their bodies in order to be valid? That was definitely not the vision of the LGBT movement. I was literally 40 miles from San Francisco growing up. We wanted people to be free to be themselves without falling into societal norms and expectations. In other words, if you're a boy and want a doll go for it! But, then again, it seems everyone wants a label these days. I won't even go into the damage this is all doing to the progress some of us bled and bruised for.

[@megsley]

"if you say you're trans then you're trans, unless you detransition and then you were never trans at all actually." make it make sense.

[@giraffezebra2698]

Marcus, you aren’t just supporting destransitioners because they may have been lied to and misdiagnosed. You’re supporting them because you’re a kind and decent human being who sees they are human beings that are hurting. Trans activists don’t care because they see them as traitors.Thanks for being you.

[@user-et4mh1kz4z]

nah.. its reversed into transphobia. they use bigoted language and are hateful

[@clovs]

There needs to be a class action lawsuit against the doctors who have destroyed these children's lives

[@sheabutter94]

Not that I really celebrate pride month anyway, but if I did, I would refuse to acknowledge it at all until modern gender ideology is fully rejected and renounced by the broader LGBT community. I understand why it used to matter years ago, but since 2016, I see absolutely nothing to celebrate until the community takes full accountability for not gatekeeping enough and cleans things up.

[@jterror25]

It’s like deciding to leave a gang.

[@BrianJ1962]

This is a real tragedy of modern times. And, if you try to say anything (especially as a SWM), then it's so easy to find yourself on the wrong end of the "Transphobe!!" hysteria.

[@elviesho]

‘There’s no contradiction there’ I like that. So many people whatever it’s regarding can’t see the grey areas of life. Life is seen in black and white by so many.

[@kellymallory9852]

Thanks!

[@Dae_Tripping]

i asked in the last q&a a question about this and you answered so clearly and concisely. i almost ended up medically transitioning but was stopped by my father. ik so glad i never went through with it

[@ArachnerdGC]

The sad thing is that children are being removed from their parents' custody in some states (and Canada, IIRC) if the parents don't go along with letting their child transition. It's criminal. I'm so happy for you that your dad protected you and everything worked out well. Hope you have a long and peaceful life.

[@kberrie38]

They aren't only hateful to detrans peoples. They are just as bad to trans people who are more cautious in transition. A coworker of mine was 17 and FTM trans, had socially transitioned, and had been on T for 6 months. He showed me posts on a popular site where people threatened to delete him, told him to delete himself and wished he would be "graped" and "hunted down in the streets" for advising a girl who was considering transitioning to male of what he thought were Pros and Cons that he experienced... something the OP had asked people for. It's really sad and toxic. It's a cult.

[@Leamichellefan2244]

I completely agree these people claim to be tolerant, but yet they’re not tolerant. If there’s anybody my heart goes out to you. It’s the people that de-transition and then have to deal with that.

[@nemavyznam1861]

These people are actually sadistic...

[@martynlaverick3405]

Where is the legal support for these people to allow them to get justice from the medical 'professionals' that encouraged them? All it will take is one case where these so called professionals are done for medical negligence then this madness will stop in its tracks.

[@AlysiaPetak-dh4yo]

Unless death it's very hard to sue doctors for anything. That's what we get when medical is for profit. Big pharma is a little easier but they

[@kelseywebster2338]

Love that you’re talking about this in particular.

[@ashurmom2969]

My 13 year old daughter went thru this, insisting she was a boy… 3 years later she’s in a better place and happy being a girl, parents need to understand what is going on online and wait it out since they are children and really can’t make these decisions in today’s TikTok world, just so sad

[@notmychairnotmyproblem]

"Going through your natal puberty is a human right" 🤯 We need this on a tshirt! Because that's what it all boils down to. If we continue down this slippery slope, it's going to lead to forced medical transitions on children under the guise of "mental health".

[@tell-me-a-story-]

It’s not just fertility. Not going through puberty makes in so you don’t grow correctly. Your bones don’t grow right, or your muscles or lungs. We need to talk about that more.

[@devisissy1]

These poor people. It's going to get worse too isn't it? UGH.

[@wickedbird1538]

😮😮I have been a female all my life. I respect that you are a reasonable respectful trans person. You have helped me understand the difference between transgenders trying to just live their lives and trans activists who are filled with venom. It is a journey for me to understand my own womanhood and those who are brave enough to make the leap towards living as a male. Now I try to be careful with my negative viewpoints that are directed towards bullying disrespectful activists.

[@SpiritStoneWarrior94-yx3gs]

Gotta love that person saying the detrans lady with Charlie "wasn't lying 100%, but I'm not saying you're telling the truth at all" 😂

[@noladavis5085]

Im not joking when I say that im grateful that I dealt with my mental health issues with drugs. I always felt wrong, like an actor playing a role badly. If I was growing up now I could see myself contemplating whether I was trans because of social media. I spent 24 years addicted to heroin, but I managed to stop using and physically I came out somewhat unscathed. I still have mental health struggles, but 20 years of being an addict is so much better than having to detransition. My heart goes out to them, it truly does. I can't imagine how hard it is to deal with that on top of the underlying mental health issues. Then having the strength to go public about their experience so others don't suffer, that's incredibly brave and selfless. They have a strength that I could only dream of having. But the people who are cruel to them, well it makes me wonder who else they look down on behind closed doors. What do they think about the alcoholic homeless veteran who has PTSD? The sex worker who is being abused because of addiction? The addict who uses drugs to cope with past abuse. I have denounced the community. I want no part of such a hateful group. It angers me that it's only a small minority of people like Marcus, Buck, Blaire and others that actually try and make the community a safe space. We should be calling these hateful people out, shaming them. But people don't want to become targets themselves.

[@winters3772]

Childhood and puberty is rough… for everyone. All kids question, feel uncomfortable in their skin… this does not mean you are trans.

[@salazar556]

I think it's disgusting for anyone to attack detransitioners.

[@jjb58]

Imagine people who got prosthetic limbs being mad at people who regretted getting a prosthetic, or someone who regretted getting eye surgery or anything. It shows how this trans thing is so ideologically driven.

[@tictack0]

tbh u make sense and i do not understand why ppl will not listne to ppl that have difrent opinions or that have the diegnose from a profecional that ses they are transgender. tbh that is so true the ending "detrans voices /ppl matter" is true

[@sarahjamiesonn]

The one guy in the tiktok talking about how detransitioners claim to have been trated by "med students" is ridiculous and wouldn't that be a problem regarding the medical system?????

[@mamasatanasa]

As a female detransitioner, when I said I wanted to go back to being "cis", the echo chamber of a friend group I had stopped talking to me and would talk shit about me constantly because I didn't wanna be trans like them any more.

[@obscuraxxxx]

It's so sad seeing detrans stories be swept under the rug and told to their face that they're lying, because they can't FATHOM anyone else deciding that this was NOT the path for them. Wild. I hate it.

[@kaimaricic]

As a detransitioner, Ty for this ❤

[@BornAgainFarmGirl]

The worldwide medical communities have lost all credibility with me, from the covid crisis to the rush to chemically change children. Going to my primary care physician will never be the same.

[@N0EL-7007]

I’m very careful around my doctors despite the fact that I’ve been seeing the same one for over a decade. It’s pretty scary what they can and will do.

[@BornAgainFarmGirl]

@@N0EL-7007 it feels like I can’t trust them anymore 😔.

[@windyway2424]

Thanks for talking about that. Puberty is something normal and it is also completely normal to not feel comfortable with it, doubt or hate it. Especially many girls struggle with it and wish nothing more than for not having periods. But thats not automatically a sign of beeing trans. Its part of a process and part of growing up. I hated nothing more than my puberty time and it took me many years (more than 10) to accept that I was born this way, accepted my physical features and that I dont have to change for anyone. Finally at the age of ~22 I came to that conclusion. If I had had the opportunity I would 100% have transitioned between 8-16y. And of course everybody wishs to feel good and happy and comfortable with their body, and if teenagers (adults too oc) struggle with it, they should get psychological help, but I would 100% agree with you that everybody should experience his/her natural puberty, even if they dont like it, its such an important time for finding yourself and who you are and rebellion, even neglection, anger etc can be normal during that time.

[@TheBaumcm]

I agree that some degree of dysphoria is common. For me, it was the change in attention from my friends who were male. It made me uncomfortable because I didn’t see them that way. I hadn’t yet learned how to deal with unwanted advances without losing the friend so it seemed way more fraught. Once I hit adulthood, I had learned how to deflect it and address it as needed.

[@ArachnerdGC]

It's not just the psychological aspects of puberty, there are plenty of very important physiological changes that people don't often think of being associated with puberty, such as bone density to name just one. When children are given puberty blockers all sorts of maturation processes are hijacked and they can't be replicated by giving cross sex hormones. This is why the idea that "puberty blockers are reversable" is a dangerous myth. We cannot replicate what nature does to grow a child into an adult. For example, hormones are secreted in cyclic bursts throughout the day and night, and you cannot replicate that with hormone replacement therapy given in one-size-fits-all-occasion injections or gels. We do not fully understand the endocrine system, particularly how it functions during puberty, and we have no business messing with it. They're experimenting on children's bodies and it HAS to stop!

[@Yourstruly.xox.]

As a detransitioner who is a biological woman, thank you ❤

[@shrimplee1]

i thought i was a transgender guy since i was 8. 7 years of believing that, binding my chest until i couldnt breathe, and changing all about my appearance i possibly could. in reality, i just have a very hard time connecting socially to anyone, especially women, and i am extremely insecure of my body.

[@amidoll313]

I really appreciate your content. Its honest and informative. Thank you for being a voice.

[@daisyhoney3088]

The thing i don't understand is why does everyone in America think its ok to groom children in schools and force them to celebrate lgbtq and anything to do with sex period??? We call that being child abuse and pedos.

[@BreakerInc]

As a 44 year old FtM, I just want to express how much I appreciate this video. I'm so glad I'm far from the only one to see that those activists, overall, are not actually Transgender.. And to anyone who has to detransition, I feel like we should all hold out a helping hand. The wag things used to be among us.