Transformers 4: Please No More

[@firstcynic92]

You've got 3 more of these to do. This was the half way point.

[@placeholderdoe]

Stop it he’s already dead!

[@svvids1247]

Noooooooo

[@SpaceJawa]

Three more of these to do...*so far*.

[@Stormfin]

Four if you count '86.

[@dr.deadpool5959]

Bumblebee is not that half bad so he should be able to survive by the end

[@JacobHillSBD]

The fact that you took the woman that became your wife to this movie as your first date, fell asleep halfway through, and she still decided to go on another date with you and then marry you is an inspiration for all.

[@the_lonewonder95.mp47]

The rizz

[@joshstraub6972]

Rizz

[@theotv5522]

Cute if true

[@shadowling77777]

Rizzformers

[@Melonist]

​@@shadowling77777 age of rizz

[@AnythingMachine]

That moment where the guy literally flicks out the Romeo and Juliet law card with a practiced move like Palpatine lightning quickdrawing his lightsaber at the start of that duel in revenge of the sith is one of the moments in all of cinema

[@GG-bw3uz]

Lmao this made me chuckle

[@saisameer8771]

This movie is probably the only reason why I know about that law.

[@AdamNoizer]

Haha that is an apt comparison

[@syedmohammedayaan4435]

this cud have been an amazing movie tbvh. I loved optimus primes character here and the other autobots got good screentime. but the useless side plots, and that annoying boyfriend girlfriend really just ruined the movie. dinobots shud have been bought in way earlier

[@OtakuUnitedStudio]

Top 20 of what is debatable, but it's top 20 something.

[@purplehaze2358]

When even Amazon Prime dunks on your film for having a scene canonizing one of the characters as a nonce, and blatantly misunderstanding consent laws within that scene, I feel like that's probably the biggest sign you could possibly take that something was, in all intents and purposes, a terrible idea.

[@re1010]

Source?

[@connorbutler5863]

To quote Cody, “If that doesn’t sum Hollywood up, I don’t know what will.”

[@thataintfalco7106]

@@re1010it is in the goddamn video

[@re1010]

@@thataintfalco7106 sorry, I commented before I got to that part.

[@sophieprime4669]

​@@re1010 The literal fucking video

[@captaindiamond4661]

The saddest part of this entire franchise is how they murder Peter Cullen's idea of what Optimus Prime meant. His idea came from being a real hero, someone who was strong enough to be kind. This version of Optimus is not the best as what his name means. He is a poor imitation of what Optimus Prime was meant to represent.

[@Tom-jy6mc]

He's an Optimus fit for the immature wannabe badasses that make up the audience of a dumbass billion dollar movie; no time to have him be a real leader, he has to haphazardly flail swords and guns around before

[@johndoh4537]

I think most people exaggerate when they say something killed their childhood but in all honesty I truly believe that Michael bay killed my childhood when I heard how uncomfortable Peter Cullen was playing this bastardization of the character he’s been since the beginning

[@yowatchie]

The bright side though is this gave Peter Cullen a permanent fixture as Optimus. There was a pretty long break from the 80s stuff to the first movie where he wasn’t playing the character even in whatever Transformers stuff still popped up. Now he’s synonymous with the character and has been in ton of series and ancillary content. The producer of the films basically said he can voice the character as long as he wants. I wish the character wasn’t as poorly handled but I’m just glad the best voice for Optimus gets to keep doing it.

[@pedrorecomenda]

I agree with you a hundred percent

[@carnotv6136]

Michael Bay managed to make a 2h and 45m movie that feels like its 4 hours long, and still doesn't have enough time to explain the plot. Incredible.

[@rusty7984]

They put more thought and effort on why it’s ok to for a 20 year old to bang a 17 year old and failed at even that

[@Wolf_3125]

Michael Bay killed Transformers and probably Harambe

[@lorddog7249]

sasuga bay-sama

[@rayhanmustakim7073]

Maybe it's because half of his movies consists of CGI and explosions.

[@yxrackman2397]

@@rayhanmustakim7073and ass shots

[@Loreofw0rlds]

There will never be a film critique more absolutely soul-crushing than, "I saw this film on the first date I had with my wife. I fell asleep halfway through."

[@Hel1mutt]

Slap it on the back of the DVD

[@zstewart]

However, they still got married, so I guess that worked out.

[@tripod_boi2056]

I only reson I saw this movie is because it has dinosaurs.

[@Angelofvengeance]

Tripod_Boi. Yep other than that this movies was terrible and a snor fest. It has some cool designs for the transformers though.

[@CGB_Crash]

I gotta know, did she also fall asleep? Or was she glued to the screen?

[@sorio99]

The wildest thing is, at the time the movie was released, the actress was 19 years old, and even when they were filming, she was 18. They could’ve just said “Yeah, she’s 18, and she’s dating this guy she met recently and there’s a three year age gap so her dad’s a little weirded out, but it’s all fine.” Instead, they aged her character down JUST to have it be questionably legal and unquestionably creepy.

[@Thunderblock7889]

On the moral aspect, a 17 year old can consent with someone who is no more than 2 years older, and the dude was 20, making it 3 years, and that is predatorial.

[@251TheMechanizedSingfantry]

@@Thunderblock7889 Outside the USA, many countries (inc the UK) have 16 as the age of consent, so a 17 year old dating a 20 year old is no big deal....still weird for a movie to needlessly obsess about it though

[@TigerWave01]

⁠​⁠@@251TheMechanizedSingfantryTrue, but considering it’s set in the US and made for a US (and Chinese) audience, I can’t imagine it would’ve ever been received well. And it’s just like…why even do that to begin with? Just an odd choice

[@Filterdeez]

​@@TigerWave01it's Hollywood trying to normalize their pedophiliac nature

[@dannybeane2069]

@@TigerWave01 Well what's the age of consent in China? I'd google it, but... I don't wanna be put on two countries watch lists simultaneously.

[@stefanradebach2889]

It's rather amazing how the writers had to bring up a Texas state law to justify a romance between a 17 year old and a 20 year old in the most bizarre, contrived manner possible...and still getting it hilariously wrong because no one bothered to actually properly research it and makes you wonder why they didn't just simply make them both 20 years old? It's such an easy writing decision yet they needlessly take an over-complicated route where they still manage to fail badly.

[@Blackbirdone11]

Or 18! It would solve everything and noone would say nah 18 is way to old!

[@Tom-jy6mc]

@@Blackbirdone11 something tells me they would've gone younger if any lesser number somehow provided the same "plausible deniability"

[@bananaempijama]

I think the writer wanted to prove something to the authorities 🙃

[@azure1106]

Iits like writer thinking let me give them something to think about ok how about I make her underage also texan cherry on top It's legal I enjoyed the movie

[@Jimbo55151]

The US government not having a single clue what the CIA was doing is the most accurate part of this franchise.

[@100acatfishandwillbreakyou2]

"Whaddya mean the autobots won't move weapons to Egypt?"

[@goldsilvervscrisiscollapse4320]

Plausible deniability. It's what allows them to do evil, get away with it if it works, distance and push blame if it fails... And still threaten the ICC with invasion if they convict any American

[@saysay8920]

Ah yes the CIAs steps to success. Step 1. Make sure they don't know. Step 2. If they know, make sure they like it. Step 3. If they don't like it, make sure they don't threaten you. Step 4. If they threaten you, JFK em.

[@kaiserepsilon4011]

"What do you mean you 'ACCIDENTALLY' killed the president of Mozambique?"

[@KipTM]

Remknds me of when the kgb were panicking after jfk's assassination because they genuinely didn't know if they were the ones who did it

[@kaiserepsilon4011]

The way he flips out the card implies that he had done this before. I just like to imagine he and Tessa are walking down the street, someone inevitably asks "Isn't she younger than you?", and he just pulls the "Umm, acktyualley" out his ass. And then he gets stabbed in an alleyway.

[@fluffywhompus]

The way this is worded makes this better 😂

[@jaketaf98]

I thought this was going so many other ways than stabbed in an alley 😭

[@jamesr5436]

that stabbed in a alleyway was so random and funny 💀

[@skeletonbuyingpealts7134]

Why was it laminated

[@romanfan250]

Does he get blown up though? Like Deadpool did?

[@PyroBun_2844]

Fun fact about Lucas’s death: Bay ended up making his death in a gruesome style/killing him off early was because he was such a pain in the ass to work with during production. In short: it was done out of pettiness.

[@EntNatal]

Everything I’ve read/seen about T.J. Miller makes him seem like a completely insufferable person so I don’t home Bay.

[@GeorgeTsiros]

An actor having bad behavior? Noooo... 🫢

[@halfmettlealchemist8076]

That was the best scene in the whole movie ngl

[@ab-gail]

LOL

[@JillLulamoon]

Based.

[@kitalalaris]

Fun fact: the number 4 in certain Asian cultures also signifies death. As well as destruction, curses, and evil. It's why many buildings in various Asian countries don't have a 4th floor. The more you know. Side note: I walked out of the theatre on this movie.

[@memeshort7189]

This comes from the Chinese language. Sì means 4 and sî means death. (Imagine that this symbol above the î is flipped)

[@kitalalaris]

@@memeshort7189 As I recall the words are similar in Japanese as well, though it's been a really long time since studying so I could be misremembering.

[@memeshort7189]

@kitalalaris It's true! Japanese has a lot of Chinese loanwords that sound similar to Chinese. They call these Onyomi.

[@kitalalaris]

@@memeshort7189 Been 15 years since I studied Japanese, so it's good to know I haven't quite forgotten everything yet heh

[@RedTail1-1]

Fun fact, don't write fun fact just say what you're going to say. Also, EVERYONE knows this. You might as well just say "give me likes, you already know this but I put fun fact which means you're gonna click like without reading anyway"

[@Montesama314]

I just can't get past the fact that the boyfriend has a LAMINATED CARD. If it was a passing "it's okay. Romeo and Juliet law" or if the script simply NOT mentioned it, maybe I wouldn't have noticed. But he put actual WORK into having that legal defense on hand, like he's been doing this in multiple states or something and has multiple cards in his pockets.

[@rooksclown316]

That scene is the most memorable moment in this movie, and I hate that. Who thought that it was a good idea to add that in the movie?

[@florinivan6907]

Methinks someone found it funny or someone got in trouble at some point and this was a sneaky way of calling back to that?The really confusing part is how the movie doesn't need this element in it at all. It adds nothing to the plot. At least you could argue the fanservice of Michael Bay films is meant to attract a core demographic. But this?They don't even bother giving it a context. Like how and when and why. Not even a throwaway line 'do you want someone that turned 18 last week going to jail because they're dating someone who will turn 18 next week?'. Its just there as a thing. In a movie about giant robots.

[@jonash3406]

Yeah I feel there is no quicker way to labelled as a predator/pervert than to carry a laminated card on you that explains why you can bang your teenage gf

[@CraigDaBrute838]

“FBI OPEN UP!!! SHANE YOU ARE UNDER ARREST FOR UNSPEAKABLE CRIMES!!!”

[@ekki1993]

@@florinivan6907 Nah, it's just your average dudebro logic when trying to justify creepy shit.

[@blackfox4138]

As a Texan who saw this film in a public theater, when that card was whipped out nearly everyone in the entire theater was looking around thinking “When the fuck did this happen?” 😂

[@kyokyodisaster4842]

I want to apologize as a Californian in hollywood for putting you texans down.

[@davidlamberg2845]

Which card, you mean the weird Romeo & Juliet Law? 😂

[@strudelh]

​@@davidlamberg2845 yes, I still can't believe he just had that card in one of his pockets to whip out, "just in case". 😭

[@concept5631]

​@@strudelh Shane is definitely on a list somewhere in the FBI's Dallas department.

[@concept5631]

I love how this film made some Texans hate their state even more.

[@epiclenient]

The fact that no one explained why the transformers left Sam after being his friends is just so frustrating.

[@couchpotato2222]

The worst part is that if "Yager" was just a more grown up Sam, it could've flowed better. Set up the next gen with the other two still being high school (poetry; it rhymes with the first film) so we don't have to deal with the stupid R&J shit and have the relationship build through the events. Still terrible, but the skeleton of the story is stronger

[@DragonKnight90001]

True.

[@dbio305]

@@couchpotato2222 Ain’t no way they really spelled Jaeger or Jäger that way bruh

[@Beanibirb]

It was revealed by the director Sam was dead after the third movie, killed off screen. Pretty fuckin stupid if you ask me.

[@dxstudios123]

So, this is 100% head-canon and in no way what actually happened, but apparently there is a scientific reason as to why Sam isn’t around anymore. He died from cancer. During the first movie, Sam was apparently around the autobots and other transformers in general so consistently that, when he was eventually found out by Sector Seven, it was because they got a reading of 14 Rads off of him. This implies that Sam was getting constant lethal doses of radiation off of the various transformers he was around. By the third movie, he most likely developed cancer that would eventually kill him, which lead to him having to be replaced by the “I’m and inventor!” man.

[@acenewholland564]

Did you know The Romeo Juliette law is the only scene of the movie fully in IMAX Truly a masterpiece moment

[@Termina2018]

💀

[@adamcade604]

Because they thought that this scene should be shown in all of its glory

[@__8120]

Hound's cigar actually being a giant bullet is the greatest movie plot point of all time

[@airplanes_aren.t_real]

So why doesn't it blow up?

[@owen723]

@@airplanes_aren.t_real self-respect.

[@Yceb0x]

@@airplanes_aren.t_real It knows better. “Pecking Order”

[@charmyzard]

@@airplanes_aren.t_real It knows to on the final battle when he's struggling against a Two-Heads.

[@Case2_0]

My grandfather has a anti aircraft shell that was never fired from the West Coast Defense Grid back during the Korean War. They were supposed to fire it to show off to the suits, but it was too hot so they never went to the artillery unit itself and my grandfather was told he could keep the shell (the bullet isn’t with it anymore but the primer is still in there… my family has been scared to set it off for decades) I’m hoping to inherit it and watch as my future children and grandchildren live in fear of it. :D

[@revanjagergaming8714]

The purpose of the Romeo and Juliet law is primarily to protect the older party once the older party turns 18, in the event that there is less than a two year age gap. I had to know this law because my wife and I started dating at 17 and she is 8 months younger. That is the kind of situation the law is for, not some legal loophole out of the sex offender registry. I really, really hated that scene in the movie, almost walked out of the theater tbh.

[@RiceBoy1975]

I’d just date someone 1 year younger or my age or date someone after school

[@Kratos-eg7ez]

Yeah the Romeo n Juliet law doesn't protect you if your already 18 and then you want to date a minor. It's for people who have a relationship in high school, I've seen it used multiple times. There's nothing wrong with it either, ain't like it sanctions dating a minor, just protects those already in a relationship when their age changes. (You might need parent's consent depending on where you live, could not even have the law in some states idk, I believe it's nation wide tho) Pretty disgusting to see this movie completely misunderstand the law itself, and shine a bad light on it when in no way what they showed on screen is accurate at all.

[@sergiowinter5383]

Virgin American sex offense shananigan vs chad middle east marrying little girls

[@tosutaa]

​@Kratos-eg7ez thanks captain obvious someone mightve missed every comment above yours saying the same thing

[@cynicat74]

@@tosutaa I did, actually. That was the first comment I saw talking about parental permission, and pointing out how the movie does almost seem to be criticising said law. Dickhead.

[@hideandpride1891]

Actually, another main reason why Micheal Bay returned as director is because he went to Universal Studios and saw a huge line waiting for a ride, and when he asked the people what ride they were waiting on, they replied it was the Transformers Ride. When he heard this, he was happy, and that same night, he realized that he was not quite done with Transformers, and decided to make more.... Guess he came back for love and passion towards Transformers. I guess....

[@TheGr8Mimikaius]

Oh....THAT Transformers ride... ....I didn't expect it to jerk around so much. Crying was involved.

[@waxblastt]

I can't wait for 5. That movie holds a very special place in my heart. I saw it at a drive in theater on opening night with my brother (both of us born after but raised on G1 transformers). I shit you not, every 40-90 seconds, we would look at each other at the same time exclaim "what the fuck just happening" completely sincerely. The Last Knight is, in my mind, the epitome of a truly awful, absolutely entertaining film

[@syedmohammedayaan4435]

fr, I waited 4 years to watch the last knight because I cudnt go to theatres at the time. that movie was such a dissapointment lmao

[@Termina2018]

The Last Knight is the reason I'm glad the film series got rebooted...

[@syedmohammedayaan4435]

@@Termina2018 actually, the last knight had so much potential. I have a plot for the film. Instead of cade being the last knight and the british girl being the one activating the staff, it shud have been megatron who activated the staff, but quintessa tells that optimus is the last knight, hence he refuses to work with quintessa and optimus. quintessa then tells that no, she will make optimus come on their side and they will activate the staff together. she then gives galvatron a new body, redesigns him as megatron and sends him to earth to search for the talisman which is with cade yeager. optimus comes becomes evil, and goes back to earth halfway thru the movie unlike the real plot where nemesis shows up in the last end. he and megatron actuallu work together, and the autobots are now in hiding due to optimus betrayal. they start working their way and then meet the british girl and that old guy who explain how useful the talisman is. hence when nemesis comes to take the talisman, he fights bumblebee and becomes optimus again Idk I really love the one I made, wud have given more screentime to the transformers and just made more sense

[@N-GinAndTonicTM]

It's not even the nonsensical batshit stuff that ruins it for me, it's just how fucking boring all of it is. Aside from a sparse handful of scenes; and Cogman, I just think it's such a dull, lifeless movie.

[@killerpergola]

I hate Bayformers movies so much (and tbh if someone edits the first one it may actually become a decent movie), i tried so hard to endure the last knight but had to quit after 20 minutes.

[@stevelandmartin-khan2430]

For all it’s flaws, “I thought it would be a giant car” gets me every time.

[@xuan7855]

I do love it, especially when the helicopter transformer said it

[@just_another_internet_man755]

@@xuan7855 wasn't he a Bugatti?

[@the_yellow_shirted_kid_16]

@@just_another_internet_man755 he was actually both. A triple changer

[@xuan7855]

@just_another_internet_man755 you could very well be right, but damned if I'm gonna watch back and check lol

[@RileyWritey]

The one good joke in these movies

[@Sakurball]

Hearing "Did he lie to my FUCKING FACE!" out of the normally soft spoken and monotone Cody is just way too funny to me. Like hearing Phineas yell at Candace to get on the tricycle.

[@Montesama314]

"Get in the damn robot, Candace!"

[@SPX157]

3:31

[@betoh7140]

@@SPX157Not all heroes wear capes

[@mallios13]

Between this movie and Expendables 3, it's weird to see how Kelsey Grammer looks pretty much the same as he did during the original run of the show Frasier. Now we have the revival Frasier, and he feels like an old man. He is an old man, but it's just weird what a sneak decade can do. And by "sneaky decade," I mean if you didn't spend the last decade as a child, it kinda flew by and most all adults over the age of 30 by today are still reeling from the fact. I turned 20 and sneezed, then I was 30. Somehow during that sneeze, Kelsey Grammer went from being a greyed Frasier to being a geriatric Frasier. His voice less booming, his posture more withered, his cognitive skills stunted. While watching the revival Frasier, I was worried one of the times he hit the ground, they wouldn't be able to get him back up. I would say "Somehow Kelsey Grammer feels older now than John Mahoney ever did during the original Frasier," but... he is. Mahoney was 53 to 64 during the original show's run, where Kelsey Grammer is now in his late 60s as the revival Frasier begins. So it really was during this movie and Expendables that Kelsey Grammer was in that "Marty Crane" age. And where some people can hit their 60s and even 70s without feeling feeble and wobbly, sadly Kelsey wasn't one of them. Probably his former addictions taking their toll. You kids think smoking pot, partying, and hooking up are good things, just wait until you don't die of an OD or some disease and you're looking fondly back on how much you hate your younger self for not taking better care of your body. That's it, that's my random point to make. This movie was so dull that, while there were probably more relevant things I could've talked about, like how Grimlock was just used to sell toys and treated as a dumb animal, it didn't matter enough to me. All I could think about was how Grammer has turned into an old man in the span of a decade. I've been forced to watch my heroes, such as they are, wither with the unrelenting march of time.

[@ricardonb6375]

Me, Grimlock agree with your statement.

[@baelGIGAN]

the fact that this movie isn't even the worst in the series is impressive. THE MOVIE WITH THAT ONE SCENE WE ALL KNOW ISNT EVEN THE WORST

[@metalheadzaki]

the devastator scene?

[@baelGIGAN]

@@metalheadzaki was referring to the romeo and julliet scene

[@loaf_bloke_will_eat_ur_soul998]

Nah this movie kinda is the worst,it further fucks up the timeline, literally has robots that don't even transform despite the name of the movie and is genuinely the most annoying installment.

[@ronvc9543]

@@loaf_bloke_will_eat_ur_soul998 nah, The Last Knight is by far the worst of all, this one at least connected with the previous films while in the 5th one they completely fucked up the timeline

[@monster-mecha_enthusiast_2002]

Is it Dinobots being the worst scene? cause' in my unpopular opinion I did find the Dinobots way more enjoyable than the Autobots as a Maximal and Dinobot enthusiast lol.

[@Montesama314]

Optimus being bitter and sick of humans' shit makes sense, IF it's shown that this anger also comes from self-loathing from all the deaths indirectly or directly caused by his choices. But no, that would require EFFORT in writing the script beyond the first draft.

[@ahmadazem4167]

Not really the human hunted all his kind down he would be mad regardless.

[@bigdaddydons6241]

Neat ideas executed in the worst of ways, if we actually got scenes showing Optimus really REALLY struggling with what's going on and grieving for his friends it could of been something

[@halfmettlealchemist8076]

I can’t believe that fucking Rise of the Beasts executed Bayverse Prime’s arc better than Michael Bay

[@sebastiancintron29]

​@@halfmettlealchemist8076not really that surprising in hindsight.

[@sambeezy007]

​@@halfmettlealchemist8076it's really not hard to write Optimus. It's just that Hasbro got some goof from Hollywood to do it

[@thomas7944]

One thing that I found out relating to that infamous scene is that when Jack Reynor (the actor who played Shane) read the initial script for Age of Extinction, that scene was nowhere written in there. And when they started producing that scene, he was very uncomfortable and confused as to what scene was being recorded. This means that the scene was later added to the script, and Jack was NOT made aware of the scene until recording started for it!

[@dairenoh693]

Honestly, reading this makes me feel bad for Reynor.

[@changsangma1915]

Its obvious by that some jerkoff thought this up and made last minute call to mr Bay and like an impatient boss just tells the worker to get it done.

[@pancytryna9378]

Poor Jack

[@Elvusmiw]

Age of consent law? Was this on IMDb

[@matthewjarek3026]

Glad Jack Reynor managed to get a role in Midsommar, otherwise everyone would just remember him as the guy with a laminated minor dating card in his pocket.

[@711desmond]

My favorite transformers quote is “I modeled galvatron after Optimus prime, why does he keep looking like megatron”

[@getschwifty5537]

Bay's Optimus had such potential as a darker exploration of the character's downfall into being such a broken resistance leader. Someone who kept trying to do the right thing only to mess up and be stabbed in the back repeatedly (and at one point literally) by those he tries to help or take the high road with, and a really powerful warrior who ends up just becoming more and more bitter and bloodthirsty as this hundred year long conflict wears at his morals down to the uh... metal bone. To the point where he may as well just be his nemesis, Megatron. A former librarian turned fearless leader, to then a warlord killing all in his path. Just too bad this wasn't explored by competent writers and a director of a franchise who actually gave a shit about these characters and the worldbuilding and lore.

[@andrecosta8680]

Formar librarian?

[@Alexander59059]

@@andrecosta8680 Optimus was a librarian before the transformers’ civil war

[@fegreninja7197]

I am fairly certain that bayverse Optimus was not formerly a librarian. I think he was the head of a science division before being chosen by Sentinel to be the next prime

[@TrickiVicBB71]

​@@andrecosta8680 I read the comics that lead up to Revenge of The Fallen. Optimus Prime was head of the archaeology and science division. Megatron was he Self Defense Force. The Fallen put a spell on Megatron causing him to wage war across Cybertron

[@owlwaifu4949]

@@TrickiVicBB71 also fun fact its theorized that the reason sentinel specificly killed Ironhide was because Ironhide was from a tribe sentinel had been fighting and who eventually allied with them but he held deep seeded robot racism for millions of years and specificly killed him as one last fuck you

[@billbill6094]

The worst part about the Romeo and Juliet scene even before you consider that it's legally incorrect, is how frequently his own card refers to someone like Tessa as a "child." He literally has a card that he shows people to justify dating what the card considers to be a child.

[@twentyeightstabwounds7761]

It wouldn't be *that* bad, if they stated they never engaged sexually, and he waited untill she legally becomes an adult (which could say he takes their relationship seriously, imho), but he literally tells her father he fucks his underaged daughter. How the hell he still doesn't have a bullet in his head?

[@nicodemous52]

"Why did they put that in the movie" Come on guy... you're a fairly smart guy. You know why...

[@PhilipFry.]

I think american laws are weird, i see nothing wrong with their relationship honestly. It would be different if it was like 17 and 14, but pretending like a 17 and a few months year old human can't understand a relationship but an 18 year old human suddenly can makes no sense

[@yourdadhasadogfilter2505]

​@@PhilipFry. But the fact that they went out of their way to put it in the movie is very sketchy. Just make them 18

[@PhilipFry.]

@@yourdadhasadogfilter2505 i agree with that, my comment is more about the laws themselves not the movie

[@bittersweetlemon3247]

Lockdown is actually kind of cool outside of this movie. He made for the shortly lived Transformers Animated, and actually had a cool concept. Basically he is a Bounty Hunter who isn't a autobot or deception, but often works for whoever pays the most, and instead of just collecting random ass animals from everywhere, he basically steals body parts and entire weapons from whoever his quarry is.

[@kirkkerman]

It's crazy how they took Lockdown's insanely cool animated design that would have been stupidly easy to adapt to the bayverse aesthetic and made it the most boring uncanny grey thing ever

[@Noodelzmop]

​@@kirkkerman fr

[@davisdf3064]

​@@kirkkerman They can't have a villain actually have colors, they all need to be gray (except when they aren't).

[@thesoupin8or673]

Man he was so cool in Transformers Animated, it's been so long since I thought about that lol

[@pharoahcaraboo9610]

Also if you’re paying attention to the internal design logic of animated you will be rewarded by noticing Lockdown was definitely born and Autobot/civilian mech. He’s a good antagonist with a personal backstory with a couple of the main cast, and functions well as a villain they can actually fisticuffs with as opposed to the gargantuan Decepticons there. I was so disappointed they managed to somehow exceed my already rock bottom expectations for him in this movie LOL

[@ajflink]

2:52 Don't worry. The guy on the left is just summoning his Persona. Nothing out of the ordinary. Typical office work stuff.

[@eeeee9444]

He loves his job so much that he might turn into a door

[@ajflink]

@@eeeee9444 Sorry. That position is already filled. The guy is so good at his job. We cannot simply replace him.

[@TheGreatThicc]

Let's not forget that in this movie Optimus says "Honour until the end" after literally stabbing someone in the back while they were distracted fighting somebody else, probably the most dishonourable thing one could do.

[@madlad2200]

something something the end passing, something something cybertron apocalypse

[@worsecloneeverever3780]

he third partied that is the least hourable thing I should know I do it all the time

[@Eva01-jy2qu7pu9r]

Bayformers Optimus ever since the second film has been the very definition of dishonor lol. He literally rips apart Decepticons like paper instead of actually letting them give a fair fight.

[@mrscruffles801]

@@Eva01-jy2qu7pu9r Winning wars and giving the enemy a fair fight are incompatible goals. If you're in a warzone and your CO is more concerned with making the battle fair for the other side than he is with winning with as few casualties as possible, then it's time to go AWOL.

[@pole8740]

@@mrscruffles801 then he should shut the hell up about his honorable bull shit, no such thing as an honorable war, those decepticons from the first film onwards probably had aspirations, goals, dreams or what ever and he snuffed that shit out, that’s not honorable

[@Belzza-B]

I’ll still never get over why they didn’t just make the 4th+ TF movies about Colonel Lennox. Josh Duhamel’s acting was so much better than Wahlberg’s in these movies, and the dynamic that could have been done with his ‘retirement’ - Lennox struggling to protect his family (including his young daughter), but also still help the autobots - was SUCH a missed opportunity.

[@jasethomas5198]

Yeah Lennox is dope

[@Melonist]

Transformers: Age of Retirement

[@user-M2CE]

See, you miss the point. That is a GOOD idea! Michael Bay does not UNDERSTAND what a good idea is.

[@JamesTheDominator]

Yeah but that would’ve been interesting and that’s clearly not what Bay was after

[@DJWeapon8]

​@@user-M2CE Bay does well when there's people reining him in. 13 Hours for example had 3 of the actual GRS members during the attack and the book author on staff as consultants.

[@Akursedtime]

The fact that the boyfriend took out that age of consent card is a warning sign already 😂

[@pbluma]

it's weird to carry a card like that, they're only a few years apart wtf

[@guyturners]

This man's first date with his wife was age of extinction and she stuck around? I can see why he married her absolute keeper

[@ursidae97]

He fell asleep to the movie, he's a keeper too. They're keeping each other.

[@colealbinder2025]

Interesting tidbit: Jack Reynor (Shane) said in a later interview that not only was that whole Romeo & Juliet law thing problematic (but him being an unknown actor at the time, it wasn’t his place to draw attention to it in a big franchise movie), but that it WASN’T IN THE SCRIPT ORIGINALLY and instead something that was added during production. Do with that information what you will.

[@silentnight6810]

Must be an awkward thing to have attached to your career

[@haljordan777]

That may help explain why nobody involved realized that the character of Tessa Yeager was legally an adult due to the fact that they set the movie in Texas and not California. Knowing Hollywood writers they probably would have made the same mistake even if it was in the script because Hollywood often thinks that they're the center of the universe, but if it was ad libbed they may not have even had time to research Texas law before they shot the scene.

[@serga7486]

@@silentnight6810 yeah like that one guy that does all the fiber supplement ads on KZbin

[@halfmettlealchemist8076]

I feel bad for that guy, man. Imagine being an up-and-coming actor who gets to star in a blockbuster film adaptation of a popular toy franchise as an opportunity to really make a name for yourself, and then get told mid-production that your character has to justify why it’s okay for them to date a minor.

[@colealbinder2025]

@@halfmettlealchemist8076 definitely, it’s not the best kind of role to have on his resume but at the very least he’s gotten better roles since then.

[@ffnbbq]

"I don't see where people think Lockdown is cool" Probably because people liked Lockdown from Transformers Animated (the 2007-2009 series), and they threw fans a bone by giving him a hook and had him take parts from his victims. Look, we were desperate back then.

[@daliborjovanovic510]

Mark Ryan is no Lance Henriksen, that's for sure XD Also, Derrick J. Wyatt, the art director of Transformers: Animated, was quite vocally displeased with Lockdown's portrayal here.

[@halfmettlealchemist8076]

I liked it when he turned his face into a gun, that was pretty neat. Like, he's cool on an aesthetic level, but he still could have been so much cooler if he'd had, say, an actual personality.

[@valtheemokid4005]

​@@daliborjovanovic510 I mean Mark is better voicing him than Bumblebee lol

[@thegloriouskingkronk8422]

TFA Lockdown looks a million times cooler than this guy

[@eevv2229]

@@daliborjovanovic510Yeah I honestly prefer Lance Henriksens awesome voice for Lockdown. No disrespect to Mark Ryan but Lance just has such an imposing and awesome voice.

[@iBlewupthemoon98]

The best line in this movie being “I don’t care” sums it up perfectly.

[@theodorehodbor5080]

Deciding to do the whole Romeo and Juliet thing rather than either age the girl up a year or the guy down a couple years has the same energy of driving on a perfectly safe highway and careening yourself into oncoming traffic due to an intrusive thought.

[@eyesofthecervino3366]

That's probably one of the kinder explanations, lol.

[@satisfied656]

Thank god i live in europe because America seems to be "schizophrenic" with certain things....🤔

[@TheLostDefender]

God that is a great way to say that

[@mrscruffles801]

@@satisfied656 What does that have to do with the above post?

[@jadapinkett1656]

​@Mr Scruffles European countries aren't prudes with the age of consent. It's 14-15 in most nations.

[@miraclep5087]

When Optimum Pride said, "I don't know what age is this, but I consent.", I was blown away in amazement.

[@ThwipThwipBoom]

lmao

[@SGG144]

I love how PointlessHub, in the middle of the review, casually stops to mention the very important killing of "Oreo Bot" by the Autobots during the raid at KSI factory. That's peak review and journalism right in front of our eyes.

[@NexusKin]

I remember when "Mountain Dew Robot" was in one of these movies. That's literally all I can say about that.

[@OrificeHorus]

​@@NexusKin The funniest part about the Mountain Dew Bot? His name is canonical "Dispensor."

[@yourtimetraveleralara]

Yea

[@halfmettlealchemist8076]

Oreo Bot didn't deserve to go out like that, he was just trying his best

[@TheDahaka1]

Auralnauts made the whole video of this movie all about Oreo-bot. First Optimus wants to save him, then it's all about avenging him. It's glorious.

[@eevv2229]

“I fell asleep halfway through Transformers 4” Lol, same. First time I watched Transformers 4 with my family I fell asleep halfway through.

[@enbytoon]

My personal relationship with this movie is that I went with my brothers to the movies in the summer of 2014 and asked if we could see Snowpiercer instead and they said no, and we saw this instead. I have never let them forget how they betrayed me.

[@chrisbanos1112]

The bayfromer movies are rated pg-13 what would you expected tho

[@concept5631]

​@@chrisbanos1112 He expected Snowpiercer tbf

[@mint6269]

i hope u saw snowpiercer afterwards because that movie goes hard

[@enbytoon]

@@mint6269 I did eventually! love that movie dearly

[@jackintheboxtv126]

correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Snowpiercer come out in 2013? i know this because I saw it at theaters in 2013.

[@motherplayer]

As it's been famously said about this movie "If only they spent as much time justifying the plot as they did explaining why that relationship wasn't illegal." I think even the most ardent defenders of the Bayformers films would find it hard to defend much of "Age of Extinction" and "The Last Knight".

[@timmholl9238]

I don't think any of us Bayformers fans watched the films after the trilogy. Because like all true Star Wars fans, nothing comes out after "Return of the Jedi."

[@greywolf7422]

​@@yamum8313Me too .🙂

[@jadapinkett1656]

Moral authoritarian

[@Kaiju-bm4ts]

​@@timmholl9238 you be wrong my friend....cause so many bayverse fans did watch tf4 and tf5 and surprisingly enough...you have people who will defend both films, especially tf4. Tf5 comes the closest to being that 1 bay film the entire fandom won't defend.

[@ButterDog42069]

The fact that the evil corporation is literally called KSI has made me giggle a couple of times throughout this video

[@Ay-di4fq]

He was never the same after his boxing match with logan Paul

[@onigames7309]

All I could think about is the KZbinr XD

[@VilanosX]

I legit thought he was making a joke about the youtuber the whole time

[@reffa2858]

When I see KSI, I think of that old Halo clan....

[@tylerberg4832]

@@reffa2858boomer

[@Marx0w0]

0:13 That Thumbnail Aged Like Wine. 🎉🎉

[@daBeanie98]

9:22

[@Ladiesman2178SD]

What do you mean?

[@Marx0w0]

@@Ladiesman2178SD? You blind?

[@Ladiesman2178SD]

​​@@Marx0w0 No, I see the numbers but what do you mean "Aged like whine"

[@Marx0w0]

@@Ladiesman2178SD It's about Mr. Beast being an actual bad guy by hanging with a devil.

[@ChefLuisFayad]

19:21, not gonna lie, when Turturro's character says "do svidaniya" so confidently just to be told "that means goodbye" and have the door slammed in his face is actually fucking hilarious and is mostly a testament to Turturro's making chicken salad out of chicken shit

[@toamastar]

great actor and character, he really did a fantastic job! Like with the whole taking off his pants thing in one of the other movies, so funny!

[@Durgemann]

ONE MAN ALONE BETRAYED BY THE COUNTRY HE LOVES

[@UncleAsmos2005]

@@toamastar Look, if it's in the script, he can't exactly go against Bay's weird fetishes.

[@margarethmichelina5146]

He has come a long way from getting peed by a giant robot in the first Transformers movie to be killed by Riddler in The Batman

[@dukstedi]

@@Durgemann🥲

[@Don-ds3dy]

It's not just the whole Romeo-Juliet law that's an issue...it's also the way they filmed this 17 year old girl in provocative ways, made the boyfriend a coward and a scumbag, but still tried to romanticize them and give the BF moments of redemption. What was Michel Bay's intended message here?

[@UnleashthePhury]

Questions such as these are best answered with “you know why”

[@Thunderblock7889]

Here is what happened: 1)Michael Bay misinterpretated the Romeo and Juliet law. 2)He forgot that a 17 yo can consent with someone who is no more than TWO years older than them. I dont know what was Michael thinking when making the guy 20 knowing that its a 3 year age gap which is predatory.

[@Thunderblock7889]

​@@UnleashthePhuryHere is why: 1)Michael Bay misinterpretated the Romeo and Juliet law. 2)He forgot that a 17 yo can consent with someone who is no more than TWO years older than them. I dont know what was Michael thinking when making the guy 20 knowing that its a 3 year age gap which is predatory.

[@steelbear2063]

Isn't 17 is like the age of consent in most American states? Not to mention that nature's intended "age of consent" is even younger

[@jakubgodlewski9104]

​@@steelbear2063so much consent in nature, I'm sure glad we don't have to be a civilized society and can default to the laws of the natural world. Going down this slippery slope is not a great idea.

[@Deepranger930]

How was that guy pulling out that card, let alone carrying it around in his wallet, not a major red flag to everyone involved? When I first saw this movie I wondered how many other relationships he had with minors that would bring up that situation enough to carry around a card to protect himself. How would that girl not see him as a predator? WHY was this scene even in the movie!?!

[@artemisorwhatever9828]

I feel like the intended implication is that this conversation comes up when he's hanging out with Tessa often and whatnot, but then that just brings up the point of _how did no one tell Cade about this?_ They live in what could only be described as a small town, and you don't have to have grown up in a small town to know that word travels _fast._ And the movie outright states that the dude's a pro racer. He'd be a fucking celebrity in a small town like this. There's no way Cade didn't know unless the dude was never openly passionate with Tessa, which then begs the question of why the dude has "Technically I'm not a predator" fucking LAMINATED in his pocket?

[@jfarrar19]

That's not a "red flag" situation. That's a "please come with me, I want to look at this thing behind the woodshed" situation

[@dominicarroyo6269]

​@@jfarrar19exactly lmao you know this guy has been in multiple situations like these probably with a few younger than she was for him to have that card ready to be pulled out,at a moments noticed. He was so calm and collected to and just the weird fact to even know that and have a card on him.

[@SquadPoop]

Media does this all the time. If you ever want to start feeling real weird about things just remember that in the lovable children's series Harry Potter, the Canonically 18 year old Viktor Krum goes out with 14 year old Hermione.

[@adamcade604]

Only reason i guess this scene was in the movie is because bay wanted a "humorous" scene of the boyfriend shouting the father

[@mr.skullfacegarcia775]

Fun Fact: All the Autobot characters in this movie are supposed to represent different warriors from different cultures Optimus Prime is a medieval knight. Hound is a World War 2 soldier Drift is a samurai Crosshair is a mercenary And finally, Bumblebee is supposed to be a ninja. He was supposed to have Ninjastar weapons, but they got cut, but you could still see them on some of the promotional stuff. This is also the reason why all the autobots look humanoid. In this movie.

[@BestCommissarEva24]

When the world was bleak, pointless hub came and blessed us with another video.

[@theshenpartei]

He is the light in the darkness

[@Tijaxtolan]

He’s an inventor

[@EchoTheWorld03]

*Porn Hub came 😩💦

[@creativelegobuilds8351]

Exactly!

[@raptorskilltor4554]

That’s about a bleak,pointless movie of a beloved franchise

[@arson_carson]

The way that you animated yourself just sipping coffee on a porch between shots from the film made me feel like I'm your neighbor and I came over to borrow some sugar and you started going into a 40 minutes voiced essay about Transformers 4 right there on your porch

[@walterelliott867]

Honestly that's a good way to spend an afternoon.

[@GmodPlusWoW]

We must never forget Oreobot. Because it's pretty horrifying that such a thing was allowed to even exist. Which we could also say about Age of Extinction overall.

[@lance2580]

Don't forget about that _Age of Extinction_ commercial where some kid just bikes up to Optimus Prime and hands him an Oreo cookie, reviving the Autobot leader after being shot by Lockdown's face.

[@Eva01-jy2qu7pu9r]

Compared to The Last Knight, I wouldn't say Age Of Extinction is the horrifying thing to exist ever. Scary yes, but not exactly horrifying.

[@GmodPlusWoW]

@@Eva01-jy2qu7pu9r Well, I guess I'll have to wait until Cody covers The Last Knight. 'cause fuck if I'm gonna actually watch that film.

[@Eva01-jy2qu7pu9r]

@@GmodPlusWoW Trust me. Watching that film takes some supreme willpower. I literally couldn't get past the prologue it was so bad

[@GarkKahn]

That's one of those cases when you say "the good part is that it can't get worse than this..." and 5 seconds later it got worse...

[@arnelarboleda2870]

17:26 wow, you nailed it. It could have been a GREAT character development for optimus. But nope, he's still a supporting character on his own movie.

[@malcolmgreene8830]

That Stitch comparison caught me in the heart I honestly felt that I don't know why they thought Lilo would just leave him like that seriously why would they think that

[@WingMaster562]

I used to like that show as a kid. Premise aside and nostalgia kicking in, it's a fun one. Stitch interacting with yokais

[@USSMariner]

​@@WingMaster562 okay that's pretty fun

[@BlackSteelKeyChain]

I like the show ngl and I was a die hard fan of the OG series and movies.

[@yourtimetraveleralara]

Yeah me too

[@loljewlol]

For some reason, Japan absolutely hates Lilo but likes Stitch. So, the series was created to write off Lilo to please the Japanese audiences.

[@HMB106]

The bit with the Romeo and Juliet law has me dying. The fact Amazon has such a hyper specific fact about it like that is hilarious 😂

[@stackflow343]

Even the Amazon fact got the law wrong too

[@rusty7984]

@@stackflow343 Oh god what did they screw up. I mean nothing will ever make that scene ok but seeing the internet implode over it is glorious

[@stackflow343]

they just read the law incorrectly. section 43 only concerns obscenity, where "performance" means actually performing for material, media, or audience - it does not apply to private relationships

[@idontknoq4813]

​@@stackflow343 ŵwqw we see

[@justanothergabs4710]

@@stackflow343 when you say "even", do you mean both the movie and amazon got it wrong? Is the character a s*x offender or not?

[@ABonafideSkeleton]

Simmons saying "do svidanya" completely serious and straightfaced only to be told "that means goodbye" and have the door slammed in his face is legitimately hilarious.

[@kitalalaris]

Funniest exchange in the entire series in my opinion XD

[@tmac731]

I like to think of that scene from both perspectives: open the door a random guy says goodbye. “That’s means goodbye” You open the door thinking you’re gonna speak another language just to have the bouncer say “that means goodbye” 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@buragi5441]

The bouncer must have immediately realised that he was dealing with an American.@@tmac731

[@mro4ts457]

It gets me everytime 🤣

[@orangeduckster2005]

38:25 I just said audibly, “You’re married?” I realized that I probably said that before when I watched this video. And years from now, when I forget I've watched this and the algorithm returns it to me, it shall happen again.

[@jorcornel558]

One more thing about the Autobots in this movie, is that they dont even look like cars anymore. In TF 1-3 could tell roughly what they were meant to be. Car wheels and doors on their shoulders and chests, exhausts, windows etc. were plain visible on and around their robot form. But here their robot form reflects their personality more than it does what they transform into. Grizzled vet, Samurai, etc. It looks impossible for Hound to even transform

[@Apple_Beshy]

Did you even watch the video? He literally mention this in 29 min mark 💀

[@jorcornel558]

​@@Apple_Beshyhere hes speaking in reference to the Decepticon transformers, due to them transforming via bad VFX But here, im talking about the Autobot designs. Their designs suck too

[@christopher6337]

@@jorcornel558 I hate how they made Optimus prime look. Hated his nose since the first movie

[@garlicbreadstick404]

​@@christopher6337optimus got that rowan atkinson ahh nose

[@christopher6337]

@@garlicbreadstick404 (((rowan atkinson nose)))

[@pybr021]

Fun fact: in the 2007 Transformers the game Frank Welker actually voices that Megatron, so technically he has been in the Bayverse since day 1

[@tomaskucko9390]

He was in 2009 game too.

[@pybr021]

@@tomaskucko9390 nice

[@braedenbarr4047]

Was that the one on the DS?

[@pybr021]

@@braedenbarr4047 he was on that one too

[@adamcade604]

He also voiced shockwave in dark of the moon

[@severalcakes3267]

“A CIA black ops unit called ‘Cemetery Wind,’ led by Sideshow Bob” is my new favourite sentence.

[@R77ification]

I love how Hound is literally how the dwarves are in Deep Rock Galactic. Foul mouthed, (relatively) short and stout, armed to the teeth, ecstatic to blow up anything that is a slight threat, and a magnificent beard.

[@planescaped]

Robo beard for robotic reasons.

[@bretts.7488]

ROCK AND STONE!

[@matthewp.1484]

ROCK AND STONE

[@juliendacoolien3454]

For Rock N Stone, brothas!

[@SolomonWayze]

DO I HEAR ROCK AND STONE?!

[@davidlahaye1202]

Shockwave should've been saved for this film. Him as a lone wolf type not caring too much for either side fits him well. He deserved far more than what 3 gave him.

[@pelgpaladin1378]

What’s crazy is he had more action in a burger king commercial than the movie. But it’s just the same fight with sentinel.

[@logger22]

That actually sounds perfect. It would probably upset the geewunners but the idea of Shockwave being a unaffiliated centrist would fit his emotionless nature.

[@ThyBigCheddar]

​@@logger22 I think the geewunners were more upset by shockwaves character in the third movie then they would've been with him not being a Decepticon.

[@Kaiju-bm4ts]

​@@ThyBigCheddar geewunners weren't the only fans upset with tf3 handling Shockwave. Everyone was period. Whether you grew up with g1 or animated or prime Shockwave, all 3 had personalities that were written well. Bayverse Shockwave had little to nothing aside from a cool design

[@PrincessTripsy]

“The US wiped out all the autobots with their own resources…….on accident.” Well. To be fair. I wouldn’t put it past us.

[@TheUSgoverment]

Whoopsie

[@kaineshigaraki5253]

Sounds realistic to me [>

[@buragi5441]

That actually sounds like peak US government.

[@JacktheRacoon]

0:13 The bit with Mr. Beast aged like a fine wine

[@teamnumbskull2846]

The funny thing about hound is he's actually not fat, there's scenes where if you pause it at the right time you'll see that his belly is actually a weapons pack with straps holding it and he has a flat muscular stomach underneath, it's hard to see but once you see it you can't unsee it, its interesting because they never explain or show him dropping his pack, they just let fans believe it's a belly, it's basically a big fanny pack, all of his fat is actually just weapons packs.

[@InsertName101]

Hound is a true American

[@themightybullfrog]

He's a robot, so it's hard to say what's a pouch separate from the rest of his person and what's a part of his belly that just opens up for storage. Not helped by the fact that he actively calls himself a Fat Ballerina (hell of a line)

[@thegloriouskingkronk8422]

It's called kibble in the Transformers fandom. It usually refers to parts of the robot mode that don't really contribute to the actual body or serve any function (not always though, Transformers Animated Bulkhead can move his kibble to act as a chair. Greatest character design in human history) and are only there because they're part of the alt-mode. An infamous example of this is Arcee's backpack, which is most of the car, as well as the original toy of the Maximal Big Convoy, which is best described as a toy of a robot that you can stoop a toy of a mammoth over.

[@Superabound2]

Technically he's not fat either way because he's made entirely of metal. Is a large building "fat"? Is an aircraft carrier "fat"?

[@thegloriouskingkronk8422]

@@Superabound2 for another analogy, a hippo isn't fat either because that is literally mostly muscle

[@zachnoland155]

Age of extinction is deeply personal to me too. It was the first time that I realized movies could be bad

[@ArashiAiko]

AOE was the first time I ever wanted to walk out of a movie. I never even bothered to see TLK. Bumblebee however... THAT's how you do a reboot!

[@capootiscrepitoos]

Same, here, I wasn't even a teenager when I saw it, and the first thing I thought when I walked out of the theater was "not worth it"

[@KRYPTIC05]

@@ArashiAiko aoe isn’t that bad as y’all say…I thought it was awesome and still think it’s awesome…Lockdown is such a cold villain.

[@KirbyLinkACW]

As a kid, watching DotM and AoE, I never understood why any human would want to side with a Deception. Like, I get being skeptical of the Autobots with all the damage, but the Deceptions have blatantly shown to the characters that they want, at the very least, to wipe out humanity.

[@ThePageofRage]

I have a simular problem: If the Depecticons hate organic life, how come so many of them are based on organic monsters?

[@quarkonium3795]

@@ThePageofRage Jealousy?

[@Gorypaladin346]

John Cena: "they're literally called Decepticons...does that not raise any red flags to anyone?"

[@hehe-tr5zi]

maybe they just thought the decepticons just wanted to get off their planet and restore cybertron and not cause any more issues for humanity.

[@halfmettlealchemist8076]

I love the bit in Bumblebee where John Cena’s government agent character is like, “Why are we trusting these guys? They _literally have the word deception in their name!_ How has nobody else noticed this???”

[@SkyRaider-31]

Sam is actually mentioned in the movie by prime. In the scene where prime first transforms he grunts out "Sam run" implying he was with them and most likely didn't make it in the ambush. Also explains why bee and prime has such an awful attitude in the film.

[@william3100]

It DOESN'T explain it because they still know and encounter lots of good humans. Also, nothing in the film implied that Sam died. Optimus never said that when transforming. It doesn't sound like words at all. It just sounds like grunts and stuff.

[@ramennoodles5970]

The Romeo and Juilet law scene reminded me of how you described Paramount and Hasbro on Skids and Mudflap in your Transformers 2 review. "It's like a social experiment. How many people can collectively go along with a horrendous abomination without speaking up?"

[@jadapinkett1656]

It's only an abomination to triggered SJWs and religious folk.

[@namecomingsoon9517]

Lockdown was originally a character made in Transformer The Animated Series. He was so cool in that. His body looked like a Frankenstein monster cause he upgraded himself with every one he killed. So i think when people said he’s a cool character who needed a better movie they mean the original Lockdown

[@liamphibia]

I see. Dude had a ton of potential to be this cool.

[@brovid-19]

To be fair, having your comedic relief die unexpectedly, too early, and in bombastic a fashion as possible is pretty hilarious use of the role

[@CollinMcLean]

To make it even funnier, Michael Bay did that because TJ Miller was so annoying to work with so he decided to kill him off in the most gruesome and over the top way.

[@brovid-19]

​@@CollinMcLeanI don't care who you are that right there's funny!

[@disposable_income_andy]

somehow theres two pedophiles in this movie, and its even worse that TJ Miller is the only one of them that dies

[@Qvksylver]

19:30 The Gypsy Danger riff was better than all of Transformers 4

[@bubblybobabubbles]

In the case of Lockdown, I think most everyone was talking about his original outing- Transformers: Animated. In that show, he's a really cool character: a neutral bounty hunter who collects mods from his bounties, and is obsessed with upgrading himself, so his design looks like mitch-matched parts (plus, he has a hook). In that case, that character WOULD be really cool in a better movie with at least devent writing. As would a lot of the characters in the Bay movies....

[@e-money9251]

Gotta give credit to mark ryan though, he put every inch of his soul trying to make lockdown sounds scary

[@sambeezy007]

Grimlock

[@Jack-sy8mr]

This movie opens with dinosaurs who get turned into metal, and ends with dinosaurs made of metal and these two plot points have nothing to do with each other and exist solely because Bay was like “Dinosaurs are cool put dinosaurs in the movie” because he directs like a child

[@Endru85x]

After watching how they screwed Dinobots, i had to read some old Transformers comics to remind myself that Gridlock was actual badass and he and other dinobots could talk for fuck sake.

[@betoh7140]

Well, I mean, it’s giant robot dinosaurs. Poorly written or not, they look freaking cool.

[@yeetusdeletus1827]

@@Endru85x Agreed. I'm fine with the Dinobots not talking, but come on, at least make them Badass. Also, quick correction, I'm pretty sure his name is Grimlock, Not GridLock.

[@Endru85x]

@@yeetusdeletus1827 of course it was Grimlock, my bad :) If i remember correctly, he was bots leader for some time in G1 comics. But Bay does not give a f about source material....

[@yeetusdeletus1827]

@@Endru85x It's all good, just a small correction, at least I'm not blowing up or anything :)....................................... I will *(REDACTED)* your family if you make another spelling mistake- Yeah, Bay really didn't give a shit about the source material. Imagine if, during the finale fight, when Prime is pinned by the sword, instead of Bumblebee, Grimlock just comes in and wrecks Lockdowns shit for a solid while, before Lockdown (Being the badass he is) manages to flip it around and beats the shit out of Grimlock, and THEN Optimous stabs him and does the whole "Honer" thing. It would both show how Badass Grimlock is, while showing how much of a threat Lockdown was. But nah, that didn't happen.

[@BlizzardWolfPK]

"This movie will forever be personally attached to my life" I am so sorry for you.

[@IndorilTheGreat]

Cade could have been some MIT dropout who inherited a farm in rural Illinois from an estranged relative who died during the events of Transformers 3. Think about it - an eccentric inventor who has made poor life choices, gets a second chance at life by becoming a farmer. Optimus Prime could have been hiding in rural Illinois (it's a BIG area), and Cade buys him to tinker with because inventing stuff is still his passion, and he's not a great farmer. His daughter failing to get into college would reflect his own struggles with higher education. That would allow the story to keep them near Chicago, so they could infiltrate the KSI headquarters. I'm convinced the sole reason this movie was set in Texas, was so they could include that stupid "Romeo and Juliette" law. AND THEY EVEN GOT THAT WRONG.

[@ansonchow2016]

As a person who lives in Hong Kong, I like how I can literally point out how many mistakes are in the final battle and how many locations doesn't even exist lol

[@DIEGhostfish]

They should have set it on Man Fuk Road

[@AbrahamEspino1]

Yup, they also shot in Detroit, USA for the Hong Kong scenes.

[@SirParanoidAndroid]

@@AbrahamEspino1 Then again, it's cheaper to film in a location that already looks like a war zone than to actually try to fix Hong Kong in post

[@iancypes5911]

They filmed most of the "Hong Kong" scenes in Chicago. They even left the Sears tower in the background of a fight

[@abrahamicreligionsbowbefor3585]

enjoying the new land owners?

[@STALKER953]

One of the old Star Wars rpgs has a bit where the player can talk to a civillian about the Jedi/Sith war, and dude’s just like, “What? They were just weirdo space wizards fighting each other!” That’s the vibe I got from the “humans hate the giant robots now” bit in T4.

[@halfmettlealchemist8076]

Honestly, I like the idea of seeing these big galactic conflicts from an average person’s perspective, because the average person probably wouldn’t know anything about the Autobots or the Decepticons or Cybertron or whatever. If I saw some giant robots punching each other and demolishing the local 7-11, my immediate first thought wouldn’t be, “oh man, I hope the good robots win!” It would be more like, “what the fuck, those robots just crashed into my favorite 7-11, these guys suck!”

[@william3100]

​@@halfmettlealchemist8076considering how differently the different robots behave, as well as TONS of social media, most people WOULD know a good amount of things about the Autobots and Decepticons. Especially from the normal people who have these giant robots as friends. Word would spread fast! If many people can find out that the coronavirus is natural and not man-made, they could easily find out on social media who are the good robots and who are the bad robots. Only ONE "good" robot turned out bad. That's nothing, honestly. Humans knew the Autobots were good for a long time. Makes no sense for everyone to hate them.

[@loganwithlightsabers3051]

I love how Amazon prime went full on attorney on the Romeo and Juliet law “Shane has a legitimate defense against sexual assault” lmao

[@ReticularTunic7]

“4 is a dreadful number” Kung-Fu Panda 4 anyone ?

[@ricardonb6375]

Really?

[@safiragems]

Despicable me 4

[@ReticularTunic7]

The Boys Season 4

[@yinyangsaladgang8789]

Sucked. Awkwafina's character was a terrible person and Po was forced to retire and give his title away to this immoral criminal for absolutely no reason at all. He's not even old like wtf? And after betraying Po multiple times, all she had to do to was say sorry once and it's "Welcome to the team, new dragon warrior!" 🙄

[@safiragems]

@@yinyangsaladgang8789 The movie lore doesnt even make sense. Why someone cant take two titles? Why po still obeying anything shifu asked? Po literally training the entire village kungfu and chi at last movie, why he isnt a spiritual leader by now? Why shifu wont be a spiritual leader instead of po? What IS spiritual leader? It sounds like made up title by writer. Why during the audition of new dragon warrior, none of the furious five showed up? The dragon warrior title isnt even real title, its just made up by oogway since noone had ever that title before. Everyone just believing w.e oogway said since he was such a great person.

[@Zach-ow5pf]

Fun fact: The number 4 in Japan is actually regarded as an unlucky number because it is pronounced as shi, which is the word for death. Sometimes levels or rooms with 4 don't exist in hospitals or hotels.

[@DeadSpacedOut]

I thought that was 14? I guess not

[@i.m.evilhomer5084]

​@@DeadSpacedOut I think you got it mixed up with number 13, which is also an unlucky number.

[@milanmarkovic2721]

That would explain Golden Wind having a character being scared of number 4.

[@ldg970]

Yeah 4 is sound like a 死 (death)

[@DeadSpacedOut]

@@i.m.evilhomer5084 that might be it, i'm not sure. If you've ever seen the movie "1408" there's a scene where the main character is in the elevator, on his way to the hotel room and they mention that they skipped a floor or something because that floor was bad luck or something like that. I forget exactly what it was, but it might've been the 13th floor.

[@acidpain6059]

Ok the “I was expecting a giant car” line was admittedly pretty good

[@faxmuchine]

Let's not even mention how every character design in this movie is impossible to fully recreate as toys that selling toys, the main purpose of ALL the movies, failed spectacularly here

[@임진후-g8y]

Unless a 3rd Party witchcraft is at play

[@gwengrasso1887]

Fr I had an Optimus Prime action figure and I could only half-transform him but couldn’t undo it so he just became this half-truck-half-robot amalgamation

[@beeimusprime]

And it also did help that people complained about the level of complexity of the dotm toys so hasbro made the aoe toys more simple

[@deeked700]

How's KZbin gonna give me two unskippable adds ONE MINUTE into the video? That aside, really enjoy how you do these, and you made milk come out my brothers nose from laughing, so props to you good sir

[@d3l3tes00n]

It's always surprising how little transforming there is in Transformers movies.

[@juicyparsons]

My Dad was pretty livid that they didn't capitalize much on the cool transforming noises from the 80s 🤦🏾‍♀️

[@Gorypaladin346]

​@@juicyparsons they did in bumblebee

[@strawberryjam6612]

in transformers the last knight optimus prime doesn’t actually transform at all :)

[@juicyparsons]

@@Gorypaladin346 IT AIN'T ENOUGH 😂

[@malakimphoros2164]

Transformers don't transform, they convert

[@Whiteythereaper]

The "Speaking of sex offenders" cut caught me off guard, well played

[@cade_olson]

Imagine if they did these right. The special effects and designs are incredible and they hired a middle schooler to write the script

[@bestaround3323]

Honestly they might have done a better job.

[@TerrenceNowicki]

"The special effects and designs are incredible" On the other hand, Optimus Prime's stupid mouth.

[@ashb7]

A middle schooler's version of Transformers would be way cooler tbh. Especially if they watched the cartoons or even read the comics

[@UncleAsmos2005]

Outside of the whole Transformium Bots, they are really "special" special effects. But they're overshadowed little by little thanks to the assenine, convoluted plots.

[@riley1099]

As a highschooler, ik I could write this movie better and ik how I could fix it in its current state and make it lead into the next movie better

[@VultureXV]

I remember watching a pirate version of this movie and thinking _you never see any REAL collateral damage at all to China_ _the Chinese government appears absurdly benevolent to the point of it almost being a fault_ Which is what made me remember that this movie was still made during the Chinese "hot spot" where movies were focused on a Chinese, not USA, audience even if made in the USA because Hollywood got truckloads of cash for doing so.

[@Eva01-jy2qu7pu9r]

Out of all these movies, Lockdown is probably the most relatable villain in the franchise lol. All he wanted to do was get his job done, get paid by his bosses and then go home at the end of the day.

[@walnzell9328]

I kinda like how the massive genocide in Chicago in the last movie actually made people a bit suspicious of the giant robots. Like the Autobots were the good guys, they stopped the genocide. But you have to admit they sort of have a Goku complex. In regards to them just existing always bringing trouble, even though they don't have much control over that. Even without Optimus waking up Sentinel and the uh... *incident* that caused, there'd be a thousand other bad guys showing up to kill the Autobots just because.

[@jonathanathor117]

IDW handled that concept alot better.

[@Xpwnxage]

@@jonathanathor117 Intellectual Dark Web?

[@jonathanathor117]

@@Xpwnxage idw publishing is an American comic book publisher similar to image comics, marvel, dc etc. Star trek, transformers, sonic and Ghostbusters are examples of their comics. Idw stands for idea and design works. There's this comic book series in the idw line called all hail Megatron where the decepticons invaded new York and fucked the US militaries shit up. Sealed of the city, killing civilians, setting up defenses everything. The cons were actually a threat.

[@ravindupadmanath2802]

@@Xpwnxage IDW is a comics publisher

[@thomasderosso5625]

I saw this one in a free pre-screening, with the effects only 60% done. Afterwards, they passed out what were essentially worksheets where you could put down your opinion on the film, and then had a little Q&A session. My criticisms were roundly mocked by the suit leading the Q&A, naturally. On the way out I caught a glimpse of Michael Bay in the back of the theater. Turns out he'd been there the whole time. I'm sure he didn't care about what I'd told the suit, but it warms the cockles of my heart to know that he heard it all. I liked _Pain & Gain,_ but I don't think it was worth the time I lost watching _Age of Extinction._

[@WalnutAnimations]

That’s awesome

[@stephonwolph]

9:37 "Kidnaps Prime like he was Princess Peach"...I spat my cereal out in laughter 😂

[@Satchmojones]

Mark Wahlberg as a scientist, or engineer is like casting Will Pharrel as the next Superman.

[@WingMaster562]

Id watch that. EDIT: Will Pharrel? Who? I misread it as Will Ferrell. Also anyone is better than Mark Wahlberg because he can't play any other role than being Mark Wahlberg.

[@ashb7]

Excuse you?? He's AN INVENTOR

[@dragonchr15]

How he became an A list star is one of life's great mysteries....especially after his colorful past.....

[@casteanpreswyn7528]

​@SD yeah, I don't understand how you go from "convicted of a hate crime" to A-list actor. It's fuckin wild.

[@WingMaster562]

@@dragonchr15 I think you NEED to have a colorful past. It's a requirement. That or you're Weird Al.

[@krisstasko]

I'll never forget how I called every moment of the movie the first time I was watching it with my family. I jokingly went "what? Are they gonna call it 'Transformium'? We had to pause the movie cuz we were laughing so hard that I was right.

[@ashb7]

I dunno what's sillier, "Transformium" or "Unobtainium"

[@concept5631]

​@@ashb7 Unobtainium naming wise actually makes sense whereas Transformium is dumb as hell.

[@thejaded]

I was watching The Core the other day and they had some shit like that. "Unobtainium"

[@concept5631]

@Flicks *_"Its Morbin Time."_*

[@carlweaselbear534]

​@@ashb7 ​@The Jade I heard unobtainium is real science fiction term. It's supposed to be a metal that's so mystical in its use, like it's unbreakable, sharp if it's a weapon, and doesn't rust.

[@andreayton1586]

See, Lockdown is a really cool character in Transformers Animated (where he first debuted). This charismatic, silver-tongued, almost bureaucratic bounty Hunter with a penchant for body-modification and stripping his targets of their armaments and weapons for trophies. And then in Age of Extinction he’s just generic evil bad guy man

[@ming1408]

0:28 I got some bad news for you Cody. We're getting Bad Boys 4, Ghostbusters 4, Despicable Me 4, Kung Fu Panda 4, and Beverly Hills Cop 4. Let's hope they don't turn out worse in 2024. These film companies are getting greedy with their franchises.

[@Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache]

This is the kind of movie where halfway through, you think to yourself "I could be watching the 1986 Transformer movie right now". That actually uses the creators and Galvatron well, has the war aspect that makes sense, and has just as much Autobot death. Which, at that last part, I'm not sure which is weirder: That a major blockbuster movie made for adults has as much dead Autobots as a "kids" cartoon movie from the 80's or vice versa. Also, that Romeo and Juliet scene seemed hyper specific. Like they put in way too much research into that. Like someone needed to put that in there.

[@daliborjovanovic510]

I can only guess that this was either a woefully misguided attempt by the writers to be "progressive" (who simply equated "bold stance against social norms" as being "progressive") or Bay was just projecting his personal fetishes, as suggested by the camera lingering on Tessa's short shorts while daddy scolds her for showing too much skin XD

[@Yeen125]

@@daliborjovanovic510 I’m just gonna say it’s both. First by Bay and his “fetishes” and then by the writers who had to think of a legit excuse for it.

[@ultimamage3]

@@Yeen125 That could've all been avoided by just casting a younger dude as the boyfriend.

[@subnerdicafan2823]

@@ultimamage3 That's the thing, Nicola Peltz (actor of Tessa Yeager) was 18 when she starred in this movie. They literally COULD have written this hyper sexualised minor as an adult but chose not to. They went out of their way to make this happen.

[@shawndashno6022]

Let's not forget, this movie is NOT for adults. Micheal Bay himself has stated multiple times that he only, "Makes movies for teenage boys!" Ya Micheal sure. So you took a property from the 80's, who's target audience, or at least largest, would be us adults in our 40's, who grew up with it, pulling our nostalgia strings. And claim you make it for teenagers when we call out how shitty your movies are. Honestly Mikey,....bad form.😂 He even flat out said Transformers were stupid, and they still hired him as the director!! As stupid as this movie is, the exec's behind the scenes are even more brain dead if you ask me.