Transformers One Box Office Falls -62%, Wild Robot Outperforms, Fan Campaign & More! - TF News

[@Cliffjumper-k1w]

The worst part is that Activison & Hasbro are gonna learn the wrong lesson and assume that the film was just shit when in reality their dumbassery fucked them over. And now we most likely won’t see Transformers Two come to light because of their fuck ups. Why is it so hard to be Optimistic in this world?

[@thefirebrothers3739]

Transformers One was a victim of incompetent marketing and poor choices

[@MegaDynamiteDan]

They turned it too transformers "done"

[@watnw2411]

It was a bad film I'm stick of how many people are protecting it cause they like the brand, transformers as a brand is done it's a rinse and repeat series where every film is the same and now this new one without the human element no one is interested in it because there's no characters to relate to without any humans people need to wake up and grow up transformers are just not interesting

[@申月営無営月無営有申]

@@Cliffjumper-k1w Back to Bayverse

[@Cliffjumper-k1w]

@@watnw2411 I disagree, but your entitled to your own opinion. After all, Freedom is the right of all sentient beings. It just wasn’t your taste, wether that’s because you’re a casual fan or a fan of the different genre. I do have a question if you read this far though, why do you dislike the film?

[@bowserbreaker2515]

I don't want TF One to flop, because I do want a sequel. But I did love The Wild Robot, and I hope it teaches Dreamworks to make more movies like it. Also, when I saw TF One, there was almost no one in the theater, but the people who were loved it. In the theater for The Wild Robot, it was packed.

[@thefirebrothers3739]

Both movies are great, but if one must live and one must die. You know my choice

[@bowserbreaker2515]

@@thefirebrothers3739 I know. I was hoping for TF One to at least have a really good opening so it wouldn't matter that The Wild Robot released a week later.

[@申月営無営月無営有申]

@@bowserbreaker2515 Back to Bayverse

[@buniboi2163]

@@申月営無営月無営有申 bay ruined tf, the tfone trailer editor ruined the trailer.

[@申月営無営月無営有申]

Thank Primus TF One Flopped. Back to Bayverse

[@blackhood7200]

I'm really hoping good word of mouth helps the movie get back in the box office well like Puss in Boots The Last Wish and Elemental. We really need it to happen! Let's do it!

[@thefirebrothers3739]

Its possible but Wild Robot being a movie with similar parameters complicates things

[@superfelipestudios8104]

@@thefirebrothers3739 The film has made 72 million so far And still hasn’t hit many other places so theres a chance it could be a hit world wide at the very least but either way film deserved way more

[@申月営無営月無営有申]

Back to Bayverse

[@ShockwaveFPSStudios]

@@thefirebrothers3739And that’s why I think the release date caused the movie to flop and not the marketing.

[@carlosatausupa8429]

The Wild Robot peak is coocking The Boy and The Heron by Studio Ghibli. Dreamworks peak.

[@Allsparkwarrior47]

I wished Transformers one would’ve gotten better as a box office. I’m more concerned how the film series can continue after this…

[@thefirebrothers3739]

They will probably assume that Animated films are bad and not the way to go from now on. Worst case scenario, no more TF movies for a while

[@Allsparkwarrior47]

@@thefirebrothers3739 either way, it’s a ashamed how this could’ve been prevented if the marketing team done the presentation right. 😑

[@buniboi2163]

the movie itself is insanely good, but it's the editor. and that all the haters for tfone are too picky

[@carlosatausupa8429]

Transformers One didn't deserve to be a box office flop.

[@carlosatausupa8429]

The Wild Robot dethroned The Boy and The Heron by Critics & AUDIENCE. Transformers One didn't deserve to be a box office flop.

[@omegamaximus1727]

I am going to see Transformers One tomorrow with my dad , and I will not the let the Box office ruin it.

[@thefirebrothers3739]

Nice man, go and enjoy it. The movie is great and it deserved better

[@samgault7376]

Man I want to go watch it but like live in South Carolina and sense the huracaine came through means that I can’t watch it😢

[@watnw2411]

Bad decision you're better off watching anything else it's such a boring film

[@kousarpatel9449]

​​@@watnw2411 bud let guy watch what he wants to watch Just cause you don't like it doesn't mean others don't get to watch it is that okay?

[@ENOURMOUSSCALE]

@@thefirebrothers3739 guya forgot about the toys sales

[@alobaymar]

Hasbro when they realize Transformers reddit doesn't make up 8 billion of the population (or even an 8th of average movie goers)

[@thefirebrothers3739]

LOL Yeah... to be fair they tries to appeal to the most common denominator with the first trailer but that seemed to have backfire

[@申月営無営月無営有申]

BACK TO BAYVERSE

[@somerandomhater490]

@@alobaymar I hate transformers Reddit. If you don’t agree with them they come after you like a feral cat.

[@Soundwave0fKaon93]

@@申月営無営月無営有申I love the Bayverse , but hell to nah! After Lorenzos been trying to beat that dead horse for years, let that universe rest.

[@申月営無営月無営有申]

Nah fam we DEFINITELY going back to Bayverse

[@skeletonmagnus8997]

Funny thing: Paramount Mexico fired the ones in charge of the marketing

[@Zackback-p9w]

Proof and source? Like a link?

[@skeletonmagnus8997]

@@Zackback-p9w A page named: "Página q te avisa cuando sale TF: Reactivate y más"

[@sonicx24cool51]

I hope this doesn’t affect the franchise in general and Hasbro starts seeing Transformers as not as profitable anymore

[@somerandomhater490]

It def will. Plus this franchise needs a break.

[@carlosatausupa8429]

Transformers One didn't deserve to be a box office flop.

[@ronindallon367]

… you’ve gotta be kidding me…

[@thefirebrothers3739]

Paramount and Hasbro keep dropping the ball...

[@ronindallon367]

@@thefirebrothers3739 seriously… they really have… pisses me off to no end.

[@somerandomhater490]

I’m calling a 130-140 box office and I’m being generous🤣. Domestically the movie usually has a 50/50 split and internationally 40/60 within movie theaters so even tho internationally is bringing more than the domestic you have to take that split into account. Also is the budget actually 75 million cause as far as I know deadline is the only one to report and they have been more wrong than right lately.

[@thefirebrothers3739]

Honestly ILM is a bit of an expensive studio so I think 75Mil + is the likely budget, but then again we also need to factor in things like marketing expenses and the like

[@ENOURMOUSSCALE]

@@thefirebrothers3739 guys transformers one is still outperforming the wild robot currently like the wild robot only made like 50 million and transformers one made 120 million so guys its not the case and transformers one has toy sales ect and the toys are selling like crazy and a sequel and tv series is already in the works

[@somerandomhater490]

@@ENOURMOUSSCALE where are you getting 120 from dude🤣

[@ENOURMOUSSCALE]

Mutant mayhem had the same opening and same results this movie will too and this movie will do the same and toy sales were crazy and a trillogyvis too far into development this movie is low cost too so paramount may do it a second time it is less risky than live action ones

[@somerandomhater490]

@@ENOURMOUSSCALE yeah but they didn’t have this type of drop the second weekend. It actually made less than TMNT openings while being more expensive and we don’t even know the real budget which is very very likely to go up from 75 million $’s.

[@1234JohnstoneStudios]

I loved both of these movies, but the problem is that one marketed itself better,” than the other. Heck, I went to a zoo and won wild robot merch in a competition, and I was just thinking to myself, “ why couldn’t transformers do this 😢”

[@zphyr6780]

The self sabotage is ridiculous, the one thing you should never EVER show in a trailer is Optimus being killed/shot!

[@SLESFMOfficial]

The marketing did it just to spite the Transformers franchise. I bet the marketing can also make sure no movie can come to light by heavily decreasing the budget of the movie, so little money comes back

[@marcusthethird1]

Now Lorenzo for sure thinks that everyone want the gi Joe crossover🤡

[@natashabittinger5233]

@@marcusthethird1 well the live action Transformers movies did make more money than a animation Transformers movie is doing, but the live action Transformers had mixed reviews but Transformers One is loved by everyone 🤔

[@申月営無営月無営有申]

No. He gonna cancel that and greenlit Bayverse 6 😂

[@dumbmeowingnpc]

​@@申月営無営月無営有申 i mean if it answers the cliffhanger ending I'll take it

[@k.guzhvin4952]

​@@申月営無営月無営有申 cheap ragebait aside, both will suck ass. 🗿

[@ii_dynasty]

People will watch it. I can't really say that live action doesn't bring in more outsiders to transformers.

[@LightningZetton]

bad marketing, Clips that spoil the movie, movie was good but made less money Ruby Gillman: First time? Orion Pax: Huh? It's sad that companies only care about how much money a movie can make, instead of how people like it or dislike the movie. Ruby Gillman in short was a dreamworks film that I liked and it was solid and could've been a franchise since its similar to Ultraman/Pacific Rim.... but sadly the movie flopped due to those things I listed that's happening to TF one now, and ruby gillman was treated very harshly online with people thinking every Dreamworks movie has to be exactly like the last wish which is dumb. I guess TF one flopped because its not like the bay films I guess. SERIOUSLY HOW CAN TF ONE AND ROTB MAKE LESS MONEY THAN THE LAST KNIGHT?!

[@thefirebrothers3739]

The fact that TLK did more than both movies is sad

[@colecamp2539]

2 films I liked best get dissed. Not fair

[@antiseize11]

No, it is all about the money. The movie can be good all day, but if the movie isn't pulling in at least the amount of money it took to make the movie and advertise it, let alone make a profit, then the movie did horribly. That would severely hurt the movie's chances of receiving a sequel from the studio. At the end of the day, it's a business, and it needs to make profits.

[@colecamp2539]

@@antiseize11 what if the movie profits off streaming?

[@MegaDynamiteDan]

I actually like ruby Gillman but I find the villain to be weak with her generic and cliche lines and also that bratty attitude but let's hope it gets at least a Netflix series

[@taifuskies3889]

To think this beautiful masterpiece flops because of crap marketing it makes me sick! I just hope this won’t affect the future for this take on transformers and we do get a sequel

[@mrx-od3ji]

no sequel 4 the flop transformers one.

[@mrx-od3ji]

@@warfortruth7178 i have every right to hate transformers one because of the awful movie it is and g1 fans have thebetter ones.

[@chozochiefxiii3298]

​@mrx-od3ji The constant dick sucking of that toy commercial 86 movie (a movie i actually like) over the legitimate story of transformers one needs to stop. Most people and "fans" hating on it are stuck in their nostalgia or haven't even seen the film.

[@Fan-Nimater101]

TF one is such a good movie also the wild robot is too Also I want a sequel to TF one

[@antiseize11]

The movie can be good all day, but if the movie isn't pulling in at least the amount of money it took to make the movie and advertise it, let alone make a profit, then the movie did horribly. That would severely hurt the movie's chances of receiving a sequel from the studio. At the end of the day, it's a business, and it needs to make profits.

[@Bumble_Buster84]

Not just a sequel they said of the movie successful will get a whole goddamn trilogy. Seems like we’re not because everyone is a bunch of spineless retards and wants to watch a movie about a nonsentient a robot and look I wanted to watch that movie too but I don’t know anymore

[@taquito36]

We've done all we could, fellas. No matter what happens, we all stand here together as one✊ And in our sparks, we know this truly has best the best Transformers movie yet.

[@somerandomhater490]

Not even China’s box office debut was as big. Europe is the last hope but we all know it’s not doing better than chinas which wasn’t all that big.

[@thefirebrothers3739]

Yeah, thats the tragedy of all this. Its not impossible to reach 200 Mil but its going to be difficult

[@ENOURMOUSSCALE]

@@thefirebrothers3739 it was no 1 iin china and still is

[@carlosatausupa8429]

Transformers One didn't deserve to be a box office flop.

[@AndrewDavis-sj6mb]

​@@thefirebrothers3739The Wild Robot Is slight more decent than Transformers ONE.

[@franciscs1604]

It was probably due to the *insane marketing* surrounding *”Deadpool & Wolverine”* . And *that* movie was all the hype! And it was all *MARVEL* that took- not only cinemas by storm, but took the entire *world* by storm!

[@thefirebrothers3739]

I doubt it, that movie had been out for a while so I doubt it would have affected the performance of the movie that much

[@zillauniverse7208]

I feel like what no one is talking about is that I know people are going to like what I’m saying but the Transformers brand in general has been in a massive decline lately Earthspark was a massive failure in both viewership and toy sales The movies are now performing worse than ever at the box office Transformers video games are nothing but cheap cash grabs that no one plays Transformers toys in general are now declining in sales either thanks to awful distribution or overpriced poor quality products that ends up at discounted stores like Ollie’s or Ross like its saying something when the only success the brand has currently is the Energon Universe comics especially in a time when the comic book industry is a dying and lastly I just feel Hasbro is just too stuck in the past and is afraid to continue evolving the brand, since I feel like kids nowadays don’t really feel as connected to Optimus Prime, Bumblebee and Megatron like how we did back when we were kids, if Hasbro really wants the brand to stay relevant for future generations they gotta do what Beast Wars did in the 90s and just completely revitalize the IP with a complete reboot that had none of the iconic players in it.

[@doom3592]

Funny thing here in latam, it seems somebody at marketing was already fired from Paramount. We got justice at the end...(but we needed the money more xd)

[@thefirebrothers3739]

Yeah I saw it lol I should have probably mentioned it but I think thats better saved for a future video

[@BrushedRanger]

It sucks man because I'd argue after Bumblebee WE DID give it 5 years and the didn't wanna ditch bayverse they are SO SCARED to branch out I just want ANIMATED movies from now on no more live action it isn't 2007 anymore its not WORKING I want more unique character driven storylines

[@monicadelgado5296]

No! I want more liver action movies!

[@thefirebrothers3739]

I would still like more live action movies but I think this refusal to say the movies are a reboot turns people away. I know like 10 of my friends that don't know this is a new continuity

[@MiggyFrancisco-gb8zb]

What matters is that transformers one is still an overall fun movie.❤️👌😁

[@Cliffjumper-k1w]

True :)

[@thefirebrothers3739]

If this is the end, then we leave with a high note so at least there is that

[@Cliffjumper-k1w]

@@thefirebrothers3739 it’s better than nothing

[@PawPatrolxTransformers]

Yeah I Agreed Transformers One should be Successfully. Now don't give me Wrong I Love Wilde Robot but I Love Transformers One more

[@carlosatausupa8429]

Transformers One didn't deserve to be a box office flop.

[@mrx-od3ji]

@@carlosatausupa8429 yes transformers one deserves to flop its bad and its 4 the best.

[@thefirebrothers3739]

Yeah, shame the marketing screwed us

[@felixdeplanques3614]

I mean the first Spiderverse movie was not a big success at first, same for Elemental and yet people suddenly woke up and went to watch it in masses. I sincerely hope TF Ones isn't a flop and I have good faith word of mouth and overly positive reception will help the movie. I... cannot yet watch it because it only releases the 26th of October in my country (France btw) and I'm still so mad at that fact !

[@Strangetapess]

I mean, I'm sad about it, but its kinda their fault for releasing it 1 week before the wild robot

[@somerandomhater490]

I was late again

[@WalkBesideMe]

And after Beetlejuice Beetlejuice, which is also doing big with families.

[@thefirebrothers3739]

Yeah, September was not the month to release it at, the competition screwed us over again...

[@PawPatrolxTransformers]

Yeah we live on a Negative world are we

[@thegotlandisfarmer8774]

A December release would probably be better, I never understood why releasing a big movie during the fall because most have schools or work

[@greyisland217]

Tf one isn’t out everywhere yet give it time. It’s not out till next week here in Ireland

[@thefirebrothers3739]

Its out in most places. Also not to be mean, but do you think Ireland is going to give this movie money equal or greater to China or the USA. I do think we get a small boost but I can't say we might even reach the 150Mil mark

[@greyisland217]

@@thefirebrothers3739 tf one is a really hyped movie over here so it might actually give a good bump to the numbers tho we are a small country

[@kittentacticalwarfare1140]

Saw the early screening, took father and his wife to see it and they LOVED it despite NOT being TF fans. The theater was half empty, but everyone loved it. Will prolly go see it alone myself today or sometime again b4 it leaves the Theaters. Already waiting for my TakaraTomy Brave Commandre OP to arrive, and can't wait for Elita one SS to come out. I will support this movie with all I've got(in my wallet ayy lmao 💀) *IT AIN'T JOEVER TILL ALL ARE ONE* IT'S LITERALLY THE BEST TF CONTINUITY SO FAR, AND PEAK CINEMA AT TIMES, WE NEED TO MAKE IT HAPPEN SO TF2 IS VIABLE

[@thefirebrothers3739]

Yeah, unfortunately I think the Wild Robot stole half of the audience

[@betterlatethannever4529]

The Wild Robot deserves its success. I saw both films, and while I would like a sequel for Transformers One, I absolutely loved The Wild Robot.

[@thefirebrothers3739]

I heard Wild Robot was really good, sort of deserves it since it looks like a beautiful movie

[@kenblazewargame4707]

I'm not surprised this happened. The ads for transformers one were all comedy which mind you WHEN HAS TRANSFORMERS EVER FOCUSED ON COMEDY word of mouth was the only reason why I'm going to even watch it

[@antiseize11]

Same

[@thefirebrothers3739]

Yeah, the marketing team needs to be fired

[@OptimusPrime-go2ff]

If Hasbro would release the movie in Russia it would also help, coz there are a lot of fans in that country, but they decided to not, and version that they get is not official one, so that’s why it will not help international Box Office

[@beastmode_bumblebee]

Its not quite joever but its very close. To break even we prbly need like 150 million which is still obtainable. Prbly need 250 million to be a true success but if it breaks even or is at least slightly successful we could get a sequel bc the reviews are so good. And there are still a lot of countries to release in. Im not giving up til its fully over. We have already made the budget back (just production budget not including the prbly 150mil total after marketing). I dont get why everyone just looks at domestic numbers and pretends international numbers dont exist

[@antiseize11]

Thing is, this movie was made "domestically" with its audience in mind. If barely anyone domestically went and seen the movie, then what are the chances of the studio making a sequel to a movie that no one cared to watch? And, if the movie needed international numbers to carry it as would a crutch, how would that make the movie look? Not a good one I say.

[@carlosatausupa8429]

The Wild Robot destroy The Boy and THE HERON by Critics and audiences. Dreamworks peak 🔥

[@thefirebrothers3739]

We already have international numbers and haven't carried us much. And if China and USA can't carry this movie much, I doubt other international countries will

[@jvbutalid8316]

The thing with TF One is that most of the movie is indeed a silly movie at first glance. The cool part is only like at the extreme very end, the development of Optimus and Megatron was very concise (simple yet effective) much to its detriment, they can't really make a trailer without too obviously spoiling the entire movie. Two choices could've been picked from: (1) the trailer should just outright not pick any footage from the movie at all; and (2) the movie needed more runtime and more unnecessary scenes. If they went by option 1, they could've use the trailers for Fall of Cybertron as inspiration. Based on the trailers for that game, we never really knew what we're supposed to expect from the plot; all we know are that people like Grimlock, Bruticus and Metroplex are there, that Bumblebee's gonna die, and that Optimus and Megatron get aesthetically reworked. But the trailers still added to the hype. If they went by option 2, the addition of unnecessary scenes would've allowed the trailer team to make a trailer that gives more subtle hints about the movie. While the movie is coherent, it is too short and too coherent, too linear. It's all main missions, barely a side quest. I think the people behind the scenes simply didn't think this movie would resonate well with the audience, and were simply throwing their money at the wall, not even bothering to check if some of it sticks. They must've not expected MCU Thor voicing Optimus Prime to actually go well, or Megatron's background story to be effective. Heck, they must've thought casting frickin Scarlett Johannson as Elita-1 is a "haha funny, we got a top-tier Hollywood super-actress" choice. On their own, the casting is meh, but combined, it was awesome. They all blended together extremely well. On a more...political side, the movie is probably just there to invite people into the Transformers brand, to keep their attention while they inject more of "the message" (as the Critical Drinker would put it) into their product. Criticize Michael Bay all you want, at least the guy had some semblance of a cinematic universe of 5 movies total.

[@carlosatausupa8429]

The Wild Robot >>The Boy and The Heron by Critics and audiences. Transformers One >>>Jimmy Kimmel & Paramount & Beetlejuice Beetlejuice by Critics and audiences.

[@thefirebrothers3739]

Michael Bay could at least make a very captivating trailer, TFO marketing team sucked so much and put too much emphasize on star power

[@shadowdouglas450]

Transformers One was the best TF Movie.

[@thefirebrothers3739]

I completely agree

[@SH3LLSH0CK3D.]

Hasbro should shelve the movie franchise and start making AAA transformers games again.

[@SLESFMOfficial]

No, the Transformers franchise should be shelved and never touched forever.

[@thefirebrothers3739]

They need to give it time to rest and then just reboot it

[@LORDMEGATRONNBE1]

This isn't over yet the box office on transformers one is now 72 million dollars The wild robot box office right now is 53 million dollars

[@thefirebrothers3739]

Movies need to make X2 or X3 times its budget to be a success...

[@shadowdouglas450]

Just cause the game never coming out im really looking forward to the sequel of TF One it was a great movie and will make its money in sales. Not including toys it just was but out with bad PR

[@thefirebrothers3739]

Yeah, but we shouldn't relly on toys to save the movie, if the movie can't make money by itself then Paramount might not make anymore in the future

[@RajeevPrashad]

Dream works marketed the wild robot perfectly, you can tell there was going to be brutal moments and funny moments. Paramount and lorenzo ruined Josh cooleys masterpiece ,by bad marketing, a terrible first trailer and calling it conected to the bay films …

[@thefirebrothers3739]

Lorenzo is the true villain in all of this...

[@shockwavecz6872]

@@thefirebrothers3739 Unicron/Lorenzo?

[@dumbmeowingnpc]

id rather have the sonic 3 marketing team for this movie considering they are more vague and build up hype the correct way. i mean have you seen how little teasers they released? that led to fans actually being hyped. i hope the sonic 3 marketing team or smth gets the place to market the next transformers movie coz it feels like they're purposely ruining the franchise

[@catalinasodolescu670]

Do yo think there are going to be any moves after this falling? Are they still going to make moves anymore?

[@thegamerwhodraws5124]

Honestly, it’s a good thing I completely avoided seeing any tv spots. The movie still kept many surprises for me the advertisements might’ve shown. The marketing has sadly been a fiasco.

[@pixelgun4789]

You are forgetting Europe gentlemen. For many of Europe countries (including mine), movie Is coming out on 10th of October. So box office will raise drasticly, when the movie comes out.

[@Felicia92427]

A better first trailer and an earlyer reless date is all they needed for a hit but no Hasbro had to hire whoever was in charge here. But never lose hope like optimus said "don't give up on your dreams the future is built on dreams".

[@thefirebrothers3739]

Yeah, they thought famous people would carry the movie to the finish line

[@antiseize11]

At this rate, it'll be scrapping on the edge of lucky if it ended up braking even. Any thoughts of the movie being a success is wishful thinking going forward.

[@gamercode1206]

They f***ing leaked the biggest moment in the movie in a trailer!!!

[@zphyr6780]

They honestly should’ve charged regular or even slightly more for the early screenings. Sure they probably would’ve made only like $4 million but hey! They could’ve had a head start!

[@darkspark5854]

The one thing about this that I’m okay with is that honestly, this movie doesn’t need a sequel. A sequel would be great but it works as a stand alone. So it’s not the end of the world. They didn’t end it on a cliffhanger, so it works fine by itself. I do hope we get a sequel eventually anyway though

[@antiseize11]

It sort of did, they have to deal with the Quintessons after Sentinel was taken out.

[@thefirebrothers3739]

The point is, that if the movie does badly... then Paramount might rethink about making more TF movies in general, specially after ROTB did... barely above ok at the box office

[@autobot793]

Maybe we might fail in the fan campaign, but at least we can say that we tried.

[@danieldowney2678]

Very sad indeed Transformers One was good movie, they messed up with to much Bay garbage and bad marketing and timing! They have no one but themselves to blame!

[@thefirebrothers3739]

Movies 4th and 5th should not have happened... they did way too much damage

[@Judic1ous]

I think the move of spoiling the certain scene was their last ditch effort to try and win back the fans who were under the pretense that the movie is 100 % light stuff. I doubt I would have ever gone to watch the movie, if I hadn't had some of the darker scenes spoiled.

[@bonnieplushtuber5517]

Something bad was destined to happen. Two amazing animated robot movies releasing in the span of a week would inevitably end in disaster

[@TFEES]

15:58 the wait for rise of the beasts was 4 years. I agree that the movies should be put to rest for awhile. So how long should we go without a movie?

[@superholymexicandolphin]

"let the movie franchise rest for a couple years" they literally did that for ROTB i think the future for transformers movies is looking bleak

[@dbartstopmotionstudios3404]

I did my part. I saw it three times in theaters.

[@JakeTylenol]

I laughed at the idea of Wild Robot outdoing Transformers One even when I didn’t like the first trailer…..I’m so ashamed 😔

[@thefirebrothers3739]

I sort of did saw this coming

[@Its.Mr.Bonelezz_Pizza]

The situation makes me sad for the simple fact that this movie was an absolute love letter to the franchise and I really want a sequel,Ive already recommended it to everyone I know :(

[@thefirebrothers3739]

Yeah, unfortunately this might be where everything ends for us

[@danielmedela8725]

I can´t even imagine how little the Joes crossover will do next year...

[@miramax-foxpicturesuk7093]

No matter how bad the marketing was, neather the box office, I am *STILL* going to see Transformers One in a cinema sometime in October in the UK no matter what else happens to this movie. That movie seriously deserves a sequel! 😤🤘 And...perhaps, #JusticeForTransformersOne.

[@F7COASTERS]

Hasbro never learns that the voice actor especially for Optimus Prime will make or break a movie or tv show most people watch Transformers for Peter Cullen and if your not gonna use him than put someone worthy like Gary Chalk or David Kaye people who have proven themselves should’ve definitely be Orion pax in this movie.

[@ismaelhenriquez4986]

ONce we lose the battle, we will have to pull out an Alita, and stream the movie to death.

[@thefirebrothers3739]

Yeah, but thats also not the ideal way to win, that still doesn't look good

[@AndrewLike1941]

First, fire the marketing team. Second, let’s do a barbenheimer with this.

[@SimpJail]

That's actually a nice idea! It would be great if us, the TF fandom, focused on making memes/fanart/headcanons/etc centered in a sort of Wild Robot x Transformers crossover to boost up interest. Let's pit these 2 great movies together as a team, let TWR help a fellow sentient robot movie so they can both triumph 🎉

[@thesymbiotenation.4552]

​@@SimpJail YES, OH GOD YES, PLEASE!!!

[@thefirebrothers3739]

That would be ideal but kinda doubt that might happen at this point

[@SimpJail]

​​​@@thefirebrothers3739 I know I'm replying late, but I wanna mention for the record that I know realistically that we cannot reach anything super viral at this point, we can still help by celebrating the movie in any way we can. Everything helps, even if it's just a tiny little bit. I know it's hard to not fall into cynicism, especially given the track record with our fandom and the direction it's been going, things haven't been looking good for TF and it's fans for a time now, but... we have to remember that the darkest hour comes right before dawn. I know I'm probably being way too optimistic (pun!), but hope is the last thing that should be lost, if at all. Better fail after having tried everything than living wondering, "could I've done something more about it, even if it was just to make it less dire rather than save the situation?". And, I know it sounds really cheesy, but shouldn't we, as TF fans, attempt to follow the example of Optimus Prime, to never give up, even if everything is against us, even if we're lost and it is all for naught, to face it all straight ahead? Edit: case in point, i just found out that Charlie/penguinz0 reviewed the movie positively just recently, and that TFHypeguy has done his absolute best promoting it to almost inhuman efforts. And both of those things might not make the movie an absolute hit, but it increases the chances of _saving it _ , and saving transformers movies, and the franchise, too, as a whole. So, this just strengths my belief that everything we do, no matter how small, it _matters_ . It does. It's difficult, i know, but lets not loose ourselves to cynicism, let's at least try or fail trying. Edit 2: Literally 30 minutes ago from when I'm writing this edit(and I know bc I'm subbed to his channel), Schaffrillas posted a video positively reviewing TFO. Truly, we can still save the movie!

[@LABOMUStheories]

I understand the movie could flop But stopping passionate Fans from watching it Because 'guy it’s gonna flop' is stupid

[@Santaknight-g1z]

I really hope that Transforms will survive because we haven't seen character yet, and the character that we has see them gets them wrong

[@arvinrufo7061]

I will see this movie... hopefully this week.

[@TheTrueZenix]

I do agree transformers fatigue is playing its part im kinda sad because im a transformers fan but maybe its time to put it to rest for a bit. But it was mostly the marketing lol

[@JoenilEDITS]

Bro I really want a sequel bro it was the best movie bro 😭 DAMN IT MAN

[@Dom-Dut-Da-Da]

Also, something I've noticed with this movie - which may also be a reflection of it's marketing - is how little the "big" influencers are talking about this movie. Like, the big streamers who often talk about their recently watched movies and make clips about it on KZbin are silent about it, most of the big animation-focused channels are also like that. The general-movies channels much more so. No Podcasters I listen to did anything about it, also. Personally speaking, I often watch Mr. Sunday Movies videos and they make videos about past entries in Franchises that are relevent in the week and in the past weeks they've done videos about Magic of Oz and Hellboy, which I've found off. It may be a 10-20 minute video (sometimes less) but those guys are called "influencers" for a reason. Many people may not trust the Tomatoes/Popcorn Meter when judging if they're going to watch a movie or not, but some trust a fella they like to watch/listen to. I think KZbinrs and streamers are extremely important for the word-of-mouth nowadays. Again, it's not their fault the movie is bombing, it's the marketing's fault for making them think the movie is not worth a shot. Also, the early-screening probably did more harm than good, there were just too much of them. I'm gonna be watching the movie 2 weeks from now, so fingers crossed general audiences are going to do the same so the movie can bounce back lol

[@thesymbiotenation.4552]

This is really our Darkest Hour... And there is no Optimus Prime to save us... evil won... All because of an incompetent Marketing head.

[@thefirebrothers3739]

Yeah, at least the Spanish marketing got fired

[@SLESFMOfficial]

After hearing this news, might as well set up a poll to remove the Transformers franchise off the face of the earth, or any animated movie franchise just because those in marketing doesn't see eye to eye with those who worked hard on projects, especially fully animated. Yeah, let's make sure none of the Transformers franchise comes back awful to upset people more, or else it shouldn't exist in the first place.

[@sped127right4]

We need to start preserving and all of transformers history like now from g1 to every continuitywe need to start that in order to keep transformers alive no matter the cost

[@lamle-g6i]

It’s not over yet. When the darkest hour comes, we will light our hope in the box office performance of Transformers One. #GoWatchTransformersOne

[@sped127right4]

Hasbro needs to pay attention to its ip

[@NewOverlord]

I blame the marketing for this movie.

[@superfelipestudios8104]

The wild robot won the battle of the bots I blame marketing for sure But theres good news Transformers one has made 72 million and needs 150 million to be a hit So theres a chance it could be a hit world wide

[@gfgneo]

Wild robot was a good movie. Universal messed up by launching these two movies next too each other.

[@saebianmyint8641]

Best hope is that transformers one gets a TV series that continues the story

[@Officalobjectionmadness]

Wow two of my childhood things having a movie and a battle at the box office kinda strange?

[@kennethsatria6607]

Wild robot of all things gets the attention? I don't see how that is possible, there has to be something beyond the audience watching at work. Would the different release dates effect anything? I remember my viewing in my country was like a week ahead of others strangely.

[@Bolt966]

. . . Guys it has not come out in China OR the UK, please wait

[@TFEES]

I've seen the movie 4 times in theaters and will go see it for a 5th time #SaveTFONE

[@franciscs1604]

It was probably due to the *insane marketing* surrounding ”Deadpool & Wolverine” . And *that* movie was all the hype!

[@LeonPacurar]

And there goes tf one's sequel 😔

[@AndrewDavis-sj6mb]

Transformers ONE didn't do well like The Wild Robot?

[@yellowsheep5000]

You need to let it cook in other countries then we will see what happens.

[@Unitautobot1751]

This just broke my heart

[@EmannHomeless]

Honestly, i have a feeling that i might like the wild robot more than TF One, it might be a better movie objectively. But the thing is, i ain't buying a wild robot toy/merch and i'm not gonna expect a sequel for that, cause at the end of the day i'm a TF fan :"( It's just sad to see this

[@betterlatethannever4529]

While I don’t think it needs a sequel, The Wild Robot is based off a couple of books. They have the potential to make a sequel.

[@santiago.j.mancilla.perez1022]

If TF One becomes a box office flop, then I think that the Transformers movie franchise should be put to rest for a couple of years, and then it's rebooted with no Michael Bay and no Lorenzo.

[@d8zvevoh879]

I would be pissed if we don’t get a sequel.

[@optimusprimegenerationone919]

Oh well, we got the toys, shows, and comics to keep us hooked.

[@RoyalAspects]

Unfortunately, I saw this coming from 100 miles away, a lot to do with the points mentioned in the video. 1. The atrocious marketing of the movie, especially with the first trailer. 2. The Transformers movie fatigue. 3. The wild robot competition and it looking more "family friendly"/wholesome and the fact it had better marking from DreamWorks. 4. NO OPTIMUS/MEGATRON SEX SCENE!!!😡

[@renjisuniverse3112]

Ive been watching the box office numbers and film as actually really close to passing the budget im not one of those people who like to think the fight is over when there’s still a shot

[@thefirebrothers3739]

There is a shot, I definitely think so. But people also think that movies just keep on growing indefinitely but that's not the case, its typical for a movie to make less returns the longer they stay in theaters and that is what really worries me

[@renjisuniverse3112]

@@thefirebrothers3739 The marketing team needs to be fixed quick tho but i definitely refuse to believe this movie will not make its profit back

[@_Majoras]

not sure whats worse the tf twitter guy who fans consider a "hero" or fans believing they're making a dent by rewatching tf one a handful of times

[@lastavenger86]

Is this just first trailers fault or is it just nobody watches transformers anymore and nobody is interested anymore

[@antiseize11]

A combination of both

[@Demolisher-40-556]

The bay movies, while very successful, ingrained the minds of movie-goers, making them think every transformer movie was going to be a big blockbuster with huge explosions and minimal story or charecters

[@blueraccoon1088]

0:15 hope comes as optimus your viewers will now understand producers will never leave the movie alone. And we need them to believe we failed at the box office for today we take the movie to them! **points and new fans, sceptical fans and older nonfans arrived** Fire: i saw the movie fail Daimondbolt: the movie? We were never in the movie when it premired Dr lockdown: we went to the prewatch just as you were Fanfic writers: the collectobots are here to stay no one is exilling us

[@wx5677]

6:41 He's helping her out with your health looks like you need to do those push-ups

[@Boomerjojo79]

The thing is it hasn't been released in other countries yet transformers one so we don't know what it's going to make overseas just wait it hasn't been released in Europe but it has been released in China where it's made an extra 6 million dollars. Huge update transformers one has just broken to 72 million in the worldwide box office we are getting close. Another huge update the movie has officially broken even worldwide with 97 million in the worldwide box office

[@WalkBesideMe]

True but China carried the hell out of the last 3 Transformers movies and it barely was #1 there. $6 Million is peanuts compared to what those movies made in the past. UK isn't gonna save it

[@thefirebrothers3739]

UK and Europe are probably not going to save it due to spoilers, the delays and a bunch of other factors. I could be wrong but I'm hopeful that it carries us to 100 Mil at the bare minimum

[@Boomerjojo79]

@@thefirebrothers3739 I mean China usually saves the transformers franchise so we can save it here besides a lot of people are ignoring the spoilers anyway

[@ENOURMOUSSCALE]

@@Boomerjojo79 alsoits still no one in china

[@Boomerjojo79]

@@ENOURMOUSSCALE I just don't want it to bomb

[@hmbtfdcu5539]

Transformers One is still the best!! I hope it makes it to the top! #SaveTFOne I won’t stop spreading hashtags until that cool movie is back on its feet!

[@giulleras3974]

um transformers one made 72 million dollars so....

[@WalkBesideMe]

It's budget is $75 million and needs at least $185 million to break even so.....

[@giulleras3974]

​@@WalkBesideMe well still that's More than the wild robot

[@alobaymar]

@@giulleras3974 I don't think you know how money works. A producer gives you a budget to create a film, you need to make probably 3 times or more of its money in return.

[@thefirebrothers3739]

The thing is that it took like 2 weeks to reach that amount and the Wild Robot has just made 2/3 of that in 3 days while still not being out completely overseas. Also the longer the movie is out the less money it will make over time, that's typically how movies work when they are out in theaters

[@ENOURMOUSSCALE]

@@thefirebrothers3739 i think both will flop like transformers one is doing better and has china ect with it and is stilll above wild robot but beloow beetlejuice

[@King_Shockwave_]

Is only me or I think in the future transformers x gi Joe movie would reach 800million in box office in couple of weeks. Hollywood is weird and I believe it.. Tfone please succeed we need a trilogy of this

[@madot09]

I mean as fans of franchise we won but at a cost but don’t fell sorry for hasbro and paramount for their incompetence for both GIjoe and transformers love another sequel