Transformers | The Cybertronian Species Explored

[@Spartan_803]

Transformers aren't robots, they're space aliens that just happen to look like robots.

[@sped127right4]

Nah I'm pretty sure they're mechanical life forms

[@legojedi5296]

They are made up of living metal with living cells. They have souls aswell

[@sped127right4]

@@legojedi5296 yeah but I think definitive one is g1 because they're cause they're mechanical and can replace parts like a normal machine would

[@sped127right4]

@@legojedi5296 and the tag line is robots in disguise not technorganics

[@OogaBooga24723]

@@sped127right4they are robots in disguise in our world/universe, not on their own planet.

[@novustalks7525]

Energon is basically water to them It's a fuel, foodsource, and weapon ammo

[@Moneynis]

Liquid energy

[@novustalks7525]

@@Moneynis basically

[@dliatsos1]

@@novustalks7525 That really is what Energon is at it's most basic sense, just pure energy condensed into a material form, be it solid, liquid, or gas. There are different ways of interpreting Synthetic Energon, there's how it is in the Prime Cartoon, where it has a number of interesting side effects to the person that consumes it, at least in the earlier instances. Or it's just Energon converted from other sources of energy. The G1 cartoon came up with the idea of Energon just being a highly refined form of energy from various fuel/energy sources, and different settings have different ways of showing how other sources of energy effect transformers, like Animated where they use Oil as basically the Transformer's version of Alcohol, or like in G1 where basically after having a LOT of Energon causing the Con's to end up being basically drunk, idea being they have so much energy consumed in a short time that it caused them to get overcharged to an extent that it led to them passing out. I know among Fanon in particular of terms like High-Grade and High-En Energon, which is basically Energon made so pure and energized to the point it again is basically the same as Alcohol with the effects like being drunk. Though again that differs a lot between versions I figure. But yeah, it is pure energy down to the most raw form it can take. And the effects would obviously be rather intense as a result.

[@dextreme7186]

As a proper Transformers fan, who has been obsessed since childhood, I approve. Although, there are some discrepancies I'd like to point out. First of all, Megatron is not Megatronous at the start, and when he is, he is simply named after a pre-existing (and usually dead) prime. From the looks of what Hasbro is establishing, will most likely be referred to as D-16 until he becomes Megatron. Another major thing about him, is Megatron is most commonly a mining bot before becoming a gladiator, becoming the areana champion. In most continuities, the Decepticons never start out as violent, scheming villains, but often a working class uprising or free minded society. And, although most commonly characterised as war-criminals, aren't exclusively vile anger-management-class-takers. just as that there's no such thing as Autobots being exclusively charismatic lovables with free thinking and good guy stuff. To put it religiously (which I dislike), both sides have their virtues and their sins. Both have their own forms of ethics, and due to the mass amount of different interpretations the media has had them be, they don't have concrete of values as people most commonly think. In other words, yes, there are pacifist Decepticons and manical Autobots. Alternative form are also not just limit to mechanical constructs, but most just complex interconnecting and inerworking masses, so they can be both machines and biological in their alt modes. Not even, as long as it's solid matter, and the Cybertronian's body type allows the shape of the object to form, they can, say, transform into a random rock, or a wooden rocking chair. as long as it's solid (or at least usually acts solid), you can bet money someone can transform into it. Their biology (yes, *biology* , not technology, *biology* ) even allows for the materials in the item to be mimicked even in properties. Rubber is rubber, glass is glass, carbon fibre is carbon fibre, it mimics the properties of the substance down to the texture and in some cases, the molecular structure. This is why (in most interpretations of Cybertronians), they can be disintegrated but, say the tyres still remain. Now remember, Cybertronians *_are_* biological, they just aren't organic. The difference is organic means using carbon-hydrogen compounds. Yes, plastic is organic. Organic food is a scam. Your mind is blown. Congrats, idiot. Okay, I'm done, overall, great video!

[@TheHiroSoul]

Thank you, love the energy dex! 🫶

[@jackgrove4621]

i dont care what the transformers animated show runner says. Primus and the 13 will always be the superior origin of the transformers because it answered a lot of questions on how and why such why are there female cybertronians if all cybertronians are genderless. Well because all female cybertronians are direct descendants of solus prime.

[@OogaBooga24723]

Can’t they just be a separate race of transformers that evolved/adapted differently in comparison to Cybertronians? Think: Cadmus in IDW 1. Or that the quintisons based the transformers on multiple different organic organisms, and female transformers and the multiple body types of multiple transformers are just a by product of that? Multiple solutions, just gotta be creative, I personally prefer the “built rather than born” origin because it makes the universe more grounded, and expansive, if the universe revolves around the transformers, why explore the rest?

[@Blank__000__Blank]

Uh, no, the 13 primes suck as an idea. Also, why can't it just be that female transformers aren't even female at all but only look/sound feminine to us

[@ewantube4555]

Counterargument the quentessons found promises sleeping body in planet form and used vector sigma to mage the tformers is generally the G1 version ret con

[@davidpap5369]

Pretty good merging of the various origins for the species throughout the many continuities.

[@sampfrost]

6:39 minor point, positrons aren’t special electrons they are the anti particle to electrons, they have the opposite charge and if a positron and electron collide they annihilate leaving nothing but gamma radiation

[@TheHiroSoul]

This is really cool, thank you so much!

[@giuliocoppola6774]

If you thought the cybertronian are dangerous look at their more advanced cousins the alternitys,besides some cybertronians like Optimus are crazy strong and so powerful that some versions can fight someone who can control an entire universe and win

[@barrybend7189]

Everyone forgets the Techno organic upgrade Primus gave the Maximals and later the rest of cybertron.

[@Tin_bAnger]

10:40 in, IDW also established some more anatomy that make them mortal. They have brains, the spark (obviously) that needs to be fueled, and a T-Cog or Transformation Cog. If any of the 3 are destroyed they effectively die. Tarn, Leader of the Decepticon Justice Division (which is more like the Punisher squad for awol soldiers. Is basically an organ thief because he wears out his T-Cog and steals new ones. Also in IDW, Cybertronians are actually born from a field of sparks, and their size is based on what fraction of a percent they are in power. Megatron and Optimus are .1 percenters.

[@jackgrove4621]

they can can live without a t cog. It is the spark and the brain module that are important

[@MikfinityPog]

Do you know roughly what percent Sentinel was at?

[@Tin_bAnger]

@@MikfinityPog I do not believe they covered him.

[@Letsgetdusty]

My interpretation of that has always been that the spark is their soul or consciousness. The brain then allows the spark to communicate with and ‘inhabit’ the bodies. The T-cog obv allows for transformation

[@Brickerbrack]

@@MikfinityPog Point One Percenters refers to incredibly rare (about 1/1000, hence the name) green sparks whose bearers are _insanely_ powerful compared to other Cybertronians. Examples include Overlord, Sixshot and Black Shadow.

[@valmid5069]

Cant wait for more great content!

[@TheHiroSoul]

Thank you I'm excited to show more!

[@themidnighttrain3045]

It’s weird they never made a spider verse esque transformers thing, there are so many reinterpretations of the transformers it’s hard to count

[@TheHiroSoul]

In my opinion it would be pretty cool, I think only hardcore transformer fans would really get the full enjoyment seeing the different versions of Optimus and the gang meet each other, but I could be wrong

[@dliatsos1]

@@TheHiroSoul Yeah, it'd be cool don't get me wrong. Fun fact if you aren't aware is that there was a time where Marvel Comics were publishing Transformer's comics and as a result had crossovers with various Marvel Characters of theirs during that time, most famously being Spider-Man and the Avengers, so you COULD have a Spider-Verse thing featuring them. But again it really is mostly for those who are dedicated fans of the series, also the whole thing can be weird at times, both in how they can have very different explanations for how they came to be, and even having different functional aspects to them in some cases. That and you best pray when traveling the Multiverse (not an easy feat in current Transformers canon, but not impossible either), that you don't end up in a Negative Polarity universe, where it's like the Mirror Universe of Star Trek, basically all the bad guys are good guys and vice versa. In which case if you do end up in there, just hope you don't encounter anyone notable among the transformers, especially among the Autobots, as a good number of their Shattered Glass/Dark and Evil versions can be rather twisted in their behaviors, though if I were in that sort of situation, I'd just focus on getting out and away as fast as I possibly could if so.

[@ltchugacast131]

Shattered Glass Prime

[@TheRedFortune]

They cannonly call it the "Cyberverse" btw

[@Edancheese]

we infact do not call it that, we dont really have a name for the overall transformers multiverse, we just have names for each seperate continuity. cyberverse is just the name of one of the cartoons

[@TheRedFortune]

@@Edancheese And I'll call it that just to piss y'all off

[@snitchpogi1277]

In the recent retcons of Transformers series, Megatron's actual name was D-16, while Megatronus was actually a name of the 13 Primes who betrayed his brethren which inspired D-16 to namesake himself as Megatron.

[@sped127right4]

They are living robots

[@NineHundredDollarydoos]

The Transformers in the Michael Bay films all feel like they were severely nerfed in order to wank off the US military.

[@ceilyurie856]

they literally were, conversely, this is why Star Scream starts out so OP, cuz he's an F-22

[@dliatsos1]

I will say, this was a rather good video overall. And it mostly fits in with the different versions, that being said, some points to mention is that while the Spark is made as being the sort of heart/soul of a Cybertronian, I personally figure it's more so the most direct sort of way the concept of a soul as we understand it is involved, in which I figure that just as many spiritual faiths posit the idea of an immortal soul/spirit for us humans that goes to whatever that faith claims to be after death, I like to think that the Spark is that sort of essence given a real tangible form, think the astral projection from the marvel films if it had a real physical element to it. Granted, the way it would manifest I figure would be different, for the Transformers it's in the form of the Spark, for us Humans, we don't know. Either way I do agree with your overall assessment of how much of a potential power level/threat they can be, they are extremely hard to take down compared to us humans, but it's not impossible, granted various versions/continuities vary in how effective our human technology is compared to what they use. Bayverse films really could be said to have made their versions of them rather weak compared to most examples, but even in things like the Skybound Image comics it's clear that they are able to at least be bothered by human weapons, just that they tend to be much harder to take out compared to how a human is. Also given how they typically have quite the size difference over us humans on average, it'd actually be a LOT harder than you'd think to focus on a particular spot of a large target moving towards you at a decently rapid speed, and when you are in a high stress situation, getting decent aim is even harder than when you are totally calm. If we take say a AMR for example of say .50 caliber or 12.7mm size rounds, it would likely sting a fair bit, maybe even pierce through if you hit a particular weakspot like say the optics/'eyes' of the Transformer, but still your best bet is hit from ambush and overwhelm with constant fire from various angles, and using your small size to your advantage, if you get grabbed, you're likely good as dead, but you being small compared to them means you aren't so easy to grab, or hide in areas that they can't really reach. But your best bet is to get another Cybertronian that's on your side to help fight off the one going after you, which in most cases means you want an Autobot on your side. Though they certainly can be reasoned with, even with Decepticon's, though a good number of them are likely to not care and just kill you regardless, or just see you as an annoying insect like we would consider a fly to be. Also, interesting artwork you used, I assume you used an A.I. generator for it, but still not bad either way.

[@dliatsos1]

Also, on the subject of them having a particular gender or such, it's not exactly explained why they are the way they are in terms of it from an in-universe sense, for us in reality, mostly to give extra variety in the appearance of the toy models. As for in universe, a number of possible ways to explain it. It can be less of a physiological difference and more of a psychological one, or perhaps after encountering other species, typically organics, and noticing how many of them seem to delineate their kind among Male and Female lines, use such terms as to prevent possible confusion or otherwise ease in interaction with other races, as some telling's have the Transformers have interactions with various other races before the great war, or during or after it of course. Or perhaps Primus, due to being an entity that has an awareness of things much beyond any of us, noted how it would be best to create the Cybertronians on such a nature as to best ensure they could incorporate themselves within the wider cosmos, either seeing examples of such lifeforms while he had fought with Unicron, or even has a sort of future sight ability that allows him to see what would come in the universe alongside his eventual creations. Or perhaps it is the influence of The One, that which had created Primus and Unicron, and saw fit for the Cybertronians to take on such attributes as part of the grand design of existence. Honestly, we don't know. But I like the idea of Primus or his own creator having an influence on why there are male and female Cybertronians, even if the difference is mostly just overall body structure and psychological tendencies. Still, good way of making it all be easy enough to follow! I know it can be very confusing given how many different versions there are of them all across the Multi/Cyberverse!

[@demolishingtank8853]

Depends on Continuity by Transformers verses can range for Island level like Transformers Animated,to Solar system like the Bayverse and Transformers Primeverse to Universal + to and Multiversal+ like Transformers Cybertron and IDW 2005,with Optimus,Sentinel etc survive a explosion that vaporize parts of Dinobot Island in TF animated to Fall of Cybertron game with the dimensional decimater making blackhole bombs and Bayverse with the Star harvester to IDW shockwave who can manipulate concepts

[@JT-pr8mi]

Wait, you can transformers prime to universal + ?

[@TheFunnyDictator]

What do those words even mean?

[@AustynSN]

No mention of the laser core? (It was basically the G1 cartoon precursor to the spark. Most fans now consider it to be the component which houses the spark. It is also sometimes referred to as a "spark core".)

[@TheHiroSoul]

I’m sorry Austvn I’ll do better 😔

[@AustynSN]

@@TheHiroSoul Your failure is unforgivable. May Primus have mercy on your spark. 🤪

[@royal-kun3835]

I'm not even 2 minutes in yet. Once he mentioned the one I knew this was a good video😊

[@TheHiroSoul]

thank you so much haha!

[@giuliocoppola6774]

If you thought the cybertronian are crazy look at the alternity those are real crazy

[@TheHiroSoul]

Imma look into this Thank you!

[@dayanaraambriz6924]

You would be a good narrator ngl😂 good job !! Keep up the good work 😌💯🙌🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[@TheHiroSoul]

Thank you so much, it means alot

[@AndrewDavis-sj6mb]

Learning about another life-forms' home 😎

[@Gravenprime_W]

peak fiction

[@novustalks7525]

The quintesson origin story is much more interesting and exciting than the prime origin story

[@jackgrove4621]

i heavily disagree because it does not explain a lot and leaves a lot of questions

[@novustalks7525]

@@jackgrove4621 Not really. It explains everything and gives them a more relatable (on a human level) slave labour story

[@Blank__000__Blank]

YOU GET IT It makes more logical sense that the transformers were created as sentient slaves, why doesn't future transformers media lean more into the fact that they're, yaknow ROBOTS??!!??! But nooooo we gotta have these mystical and magical reasons as to why the transformers are

[@dliatsos1]

@@novustalks7525 Ideally a mix of both can work, with the origin being from Primus, but the Quintesson's keeping that information secret from the Cybertroian's and passing it off as fanciful myths and instead claiming that they were the ones that created them truly. And that eventually it is revealed that they were lied to and rebel against the slave masters, and in time they know they came from Primus, but don't know where he is besides apparently residing within the world, which most regard again with some amount of myth, with only a few like Alpha Trion knowing he really is residing within the world as it's spirit for lack of a better term.

[@barrybend7189]

Primus made the original 13 but after the seeds were sown into making more they had the equivalent of the Horus Heresy and either disappeared or died. Alpha Trion and Alchemist prime were the only ones still among the others. The quintessons enslaved the Cybertronians ( might have been the quintesson's name for the people)while they were vulnerable. So it's not a stretch both are true to some degree.

[@SharkWithADrill]

Great video

[@TheHiroSoul]

Glad you enjoyed it!