Transgender: Back to Jamaica | BBC Newsbeat

[@zoshac1778]

they brave tho for even stepping foot back in jamaica

[@iiiMUNiiiQUE]

well as the documentary said, female homosexuals are more accepted. if they were male trying to change to females, this would be extremely interesting to watch. it would be completely different.

[@jhenellereid7178]

@@iiiMUNiiiQUE gay, transgender, it doesn't matter jamaica has a church in walking distance almost everywhere. A gay guy in jamaica had to call the cops to leave his house because of a mob outside. Don't get me wrong i love Jamaica and I wouldn't change being jamaican but most jamaican's se that if it's not gods way it's not the right way.

[@jadeacampbell5206]

Right

[@jadeacampbell5206]

@@jhenellereid7178 and that's a good thing. Not a bad thing. Don't be ashamed of that. God will bless Jamaica for holding his law

[@jhenellereid7178]

@@jadeacampbell5206 Trust me when I say I am not ashamed

[@srideout91]

They should have used a hidden camera to capture the reactions... I bet you if they didn't see the camera it would haven been a completely different reaction

[@lisa196409]

No I think that they really miss their family members I would miss my family member no matter what they decided to do with themselves if they wanted to transgender or transition to whatever they wanted to transition to I would still love them I'd have a lot of questions but I still would love them

[@ckspower1474]

Sure right bout DAT

[@iiiMUNiiiQUE]

yeah im African and our ppl like to put on a front for foreign cameras sometimes lol. but as you can see the sister stayed true to her values while still showing acceptance & love, and the other one his mother refused to be filmed i guess, it was probably too much for her.

[@aprilshorty4094]

His father was very emotional you can't get more real than that if anything because of the stigma they wouldn't want people to see them accepting their family members

[@MsDesign49]

I believe your right because while vacationing there a girl started dancing with another girl and the DJ cut the music and started yelling at her saying she was disrespectful.

[@virg0_lem0nade]

romario's dad is so sweet, "i am never disgusted by you, i am too open-minded for that..."

[@makeabitchbleed779]

I would have never believed they were both girls

[@kevin9996661]

Really lol

[@talkswithtee3397]

Me neither

[@MoNsTeRDaRkZz]

makeabitchbleed you’ll find it’s not attractive women who turns into men

[@geo745don]

TehMixqa Yeah they be ugly AF

[@cabletv1911]

TehMixqa I strongly disagree with that ignorant statement

[@davidramos2642]

Sex outside of marriage is a major sin...mentioned 140 times in the bible...apparently nobody pays attention to that...hell is gonna be overcrowded lol

[@Shelbylovesitall]

David Ramos omg I always said that, sex before marriage is such a sin also, why isn't everyone married??

[@LuvIsWhatIDontHate]

David Ramos there's no such thing as a "major" sin all sin is equal

[@patriciamalyango2367]

You scared me seriously

[@dothedeed]

Jesus was a jew - Jews don't believe in hell.

[@shawnawoods8989]

GOD IS A FORGIVING GOD

[@ronadionneful]

They definitely had me flabbergasted. I initially thought they were gay men.

[@thaintriguing1]

R Bizness technically they are

[@msdarkhoneybollicini2039]

R Bizness I was just trying to guess who was who and I was shocked to know they both use to be females too!!!

[@come_on_barbie_123]

Same!!

[@calledbG]

Same

[@blasianluvschocolate397]

So did i

[@crystalallen10]

First of all, the Jamaican people (their family) are only behaving like this because they are infront the camera ... this is a fake covered reaction , if the cameras were off it would be totally different 😐🤨 EDIT : 5 years later I'm rewatching this and realize the reactions may actually be genuine. Not everyone think the same and as time goes by Jamaicans become more accepting.

[@annacampbell6087]

Nella Bella As a Jamaican i agree with you

[@gkus7008]

Nella Bella what would've happened?

[@danamelette6307]

Nella Bella. I agree with you, it would be a different reaction. They would be saying wat da bloodclot dis. Dis sum pure fucker ya dill wit.

[@jacquelinekariuki2654]

Dana Melette 😂😂😂

[@mschin6038]

Nella Bella DAT a true

[@mariembai3019]

steffen's brother looking at him like WTF is he talking about😂

[@iiiMUNiiiQUE]

lmao right. hes from a different time, the age gap there is shocking too. he probably never imagined he would ever see a transgender in his lifetime.

[@conflictTV265]

That old man was so shocked he couldn't talk.

[@tianathompson2725]

Cah he was uncomfortable. That's how it is in my culture 👏🏼💯

[@deltadon4620]

jah know the lder was boiling inside she better thank god for the camera lol

[@AbsolutelyRuwaydah]

Woah, I'm only 30 seconds in and thought this was a joke, because they truely look like men, would never think they're trans

[@70scarwash]

AbsolutelyRuwaydah dddgryuii🐜🐴

[@marvellphillips3480]

AbsolutelyRuwaydah k

[@meacomefeyou]

Transam? You must be blind

[@rahwaasgodom6570]

Because of chemical it not haw they born disgusting even they don’t like their self haw they won’t others to support them .

[@Jojohumf]

The placement of fat around the face is often a good give away. They tend to have more fat around the cheek area.

[@honeydate]

Did the families just "accept " them because they were being filmed

[@pazvababe89]

honeymoon probably

[@lovebug3353]

good question

[@modernwomanTv]

SAYING ACCEPT IS ALL I GOT!! but its better than nothing. Funny how the dad was violent (to his daughter) just rubbish #abusive

[@allab0ut-fl0wers-74]

I believe so

[@Masilladoll]

Has to be

[@cuteandred1]

Just because a person choose to be transgender does not mean that people have to accept your choice. If a person says I don't believe that what you're doing is right but I love you anyway that should be enough for that person. But some people want you to lie and say that they agree with it when they don't. If that's what you choose then so be it but don't force your believe on someone else

[@legendhasitgenocide456]

Latisha Beaugard juss becau someone has aids don’t mean they have to spread it u ass

[@raymahupete4603]

I'm thinking the same.Your choice so live it and don't force people to accept it.

[@Faith_Olivia]

Just because someone has a different lifestyle to you that doesn't give you the right to put them down for being them. What part of the video were the 2 men forcing any of the people to accept them

[@Faith_Olivia]

Religious people force their beliefs on others all the time but u don't hear people who are gay, lesbian, bisexual, or transgender etc. condemning religious people for what they believe in

[@Faith_Olivia]

@@legendhasitgenocide456 this is a video about two transgendered MEN so what was your point in saying real women have wombs

[@Zannnnah]

If you are going to tell the story tell the whole story as to WHY Jamaica is allegedly one of the most intolerant to anything related to LGBTQ. iIt is a deep sickening scar.

[@claricestarling6510]

agree....

[@MySugarWallz]

yes. it's because europeans forced their buggery laws and religion onto the slaves. also because they bred slaves on jamaica and if slaves were homosexual, they wouldn't be doing their job of breeding.

[@lavishiocelestine7409]

Zannnnah Jamaica is a fucked up place

[@ameliamiller3959]

+lavishio celestine plz dont say that o live here and its the land of my place tell me that when live and go there thanks

[@lavishiocelestine7409]

Amelia Miller I will never want to visit the media is juss enough.. cuz it's Jamaicans them self that perpetrate the agenda

[@blackink43]

Jamaica is a nice place, but you can't expect it to change its views on homosexuality

[@PHlophe]

um... jamaicans are cool people but to be fair its a 3rd world country with a handful of good resorts away from the regular folk. its views are rooted in religion and christianity thrives in poverty.

[@blackink43]

Lechiffresix six yes we know, it was explained on the show

[@blackink43]

***** no you can't, just look at places like the middle east and america

[@blackink43]

its that god rubbish that had us enslaved for so long, the bible, complete rubbish.

[@PHlophe]

***** Ayanna change their heart into what though ? come Ayanna don't try to be sly, spill it out

[@JvNelsonn]

Before they even got to Jamaica, when they mentioned it I was like oh there's gonna be some crazy reactions to this. Maybe this is why they filmed it because they knew family would act up.

[@tjhiggs1740]

Yup exactly

[@Teshazone876]

I am from Jamaica and i know that was extremely hard for them....especially not knowing if u will b accepted......its not my job to judge anyone...let ye without sin cast the first stone

[@natashacampbell5200]

truth..he who is without sin should cast the first stone

[@Keno_jm]

+Tyechia McLean-Blair | Ok if you wanna use bible quotes, do you remember this one: "For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error. And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a debased mind to do what ought not to be done." Or perhaps you only use the verses that are convenient for you?

[@natashacampbell5200]

+Keno Clayton (ThePlayMaker) seeing as you wanna use bible quotes...read the book of revelation. ..it says that fornication will enter lake of fire... my problem as a black person from the black community is how people focus on homosexyality like that is the only sin...what about fornication?? is that not a sin. the same people persecuting homosexyality need to check their own lives and bedrooms and check they're right with God before they start checking over people.

[@natashacampbell5200]

+Natasha C hence why I said..he who is without sin should cast the first stone. and furthermore judge not and he will not be judged.

[@Keno_jm]

Natasha C I'm not ignoring fornication or any of the other sins. I never said they were right, nor have I told anyone that it's ok. However that doesn't mean we must ignore 1 sin just because other sins exist.

[@brooklynzoo7189]

I'm sorry but when Steffen was talking his older brother was looking like who the fuck is this lmao😂

[@majalukahb]

Deirdre Bodrick I dead tpccc😂😂😂😂

[@heartbrokenme7380]

Deirdre Bodrick true

[@gregjr.8268]

ifkr that hug tho

[@crystalwest4147]

Deirdre Bodrick brother??? More like grandpa.

[@naturalsince9597]

Deirdre Bodrick I am here dying because of Steffen's brother's face expression 😂😂😂think I'm laughing too hard

[@dsntgtbttr]

The sister is pretty 💓

[@40s_fit_and_fab30]

Yes she is

[@faboge]

Yes, that sister is very pretty! But this is a sad story all around!

[@shanex1984]

I am Jamaica born and bread... I'm shock myself, as in they were girl now going to meet their family as men.. Jamaicans are not open minded like that.. to be honest I'm actually frighten for them... as in Jamaica they will never accept that, worst the situation is so confusing.. Jamaicans dont really think in dept like that...

[@kimoni6]

"Jamaicans don't really think in depth like that." Do not out the whole country in that category. smh

[@SweetCandyDoll1]

Maybe you don't think in depth like that! Who are you to speak on everyone's behalf????? Not every Jamaican is the same!!!

[@mistersuave6242]

Shane Pinnock do you know Jason Pinnock from MoBay?

[@4meincognito]

You are so wrong. Jamaicans are more tolerant now. Gay people go about their business most places and I don't see anyone harassing them.

[@princessabbey9295]

Shane Pinnock , What is the song at 5:14?

[@TheSoulIsPrismaticTV]

Lawwdddd they would've had me fooled!

[@valeryecruz]

The Shanell Complex SAME LMFAO R

[@TheSoulIsPrismaticTV]

***** YES, I thought the same!

[@aarondegley9577]

...I don't see how, really. No brow ridges or adam's apples, small hands, slender, feminine-like fingers, hips wider than shoulders, walking in a somewhat feminine manner...Good for them being happy with themselves now, but these two aren't as masculine as you or they think.

[@kailastaila]

Sure.... because all males in the world look very very masculin....

[@fancii]

Aaron Degley those aren't always giveaways of a person's sex. I'm a man. I haven't taken hormones (yet) but I don't have a pronounced adam's apple or big hands. People take me for a girl at first glance every time.

[@nadi8152]

20:40 ''deep down I wanted a son''...that's where the seed was sewn, the confusion started right there. The desire of the parents subconsciously was planted into that unborn child and from the womb something happened to make this child grew up with confusion and feelings of being or wanting to be the opposite sex because that was what the father wanted. It's hard to understand but these things happen, it's more spiritual than physical. This can only be reversed by strong deliverance and if they want to be free. I love everyone even if I don't condone their lifestyle because it's not natural. I can only pray for them and hope the love of God and the truth sets them free. We are all God's children.

[@jaa6474]

Nadine Shields, We Have To Careful What We Give Life To.

[@GrillattuLampi]

Sorry dear but that is not how being transgender works.. no seed was planted by the father's immanent thought. Nevertheless, not that his opinion of his child's gender matters, in the end he got what he wished for as well. Too bad the society is perpetuating attitudes that distort people's views of transgenders and ultimately make it harder for these parents to accept their own children

[@Johnmateo0]

My parents just wanted a child and didn't care about the gender. So how come I'm trans?

[@Sid_enuh]

🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

[@sammym9259]

Confused species

[@jamrockpride2039]

If those cameras weren't around, the welcoming responses would've been totalllly, compleeetely different! People act differently on cameras, esp on a topic as that in Jamaica. Hidden cameras next time please, for the truest expression of feelings

[@continentalcushite3696]

8:00 The sister is really pretty, beautiful smile.

[@mohamedahmedyassinhussein6856]

Continental Cushite sooo beautiful

[@msr9449]

The oldest brother looked like he was going to slap him. You can tell he was pissed.

[@winterkiyomi]

I didn’t get that vibe 🤷🏼‍♀️

[@findingseriah2855]

The music playlist tho.....

[@brwnskndgirl6948]

Lord I felt that father's cry. Had me bawling.

[@breakingnewsonsocialmediat8809]

I respect I been living in hiding from my Jamaican family for 20yrs because am afraid to tell them I transition from a male to a female hope I can build up the courage to let them know one day!!

[@bellarue3065]

I often wonder why people spend so much time concerning themselves with what two consenting adults do. As long as they are not hurting anyone. To each his own. Put that energy into stopping the sexual molestation of children in your family by your own family members and friends! That's an even larger problem that's ignored, especially in the black community.

[@leena6543]

Bella Rue Agreed.

[@zataishasims9732]

Agreed.

[@amandacogger5221]

Agreed! Gay straight bi black white it doesn't matter children should be protected and should be cherished they are a gift

[@childofkingjesusrichards2606]

The fact of the matter is that what they did is totally wrong! God Almighty didn't created them that way.

[@childofkingjesusrichards2606]

@@michellesmith6265 Amen!🙏🙌

[@QueenQueenly]

These guys have had a hard difficult painful life, it aint easy to feel like you were born in the wrong body, thanks for creating the documentary beautiful great to see the fathers showing some support and accepting them

[@dionjohnson6132]

Queen Queenly

[@benjamind.jbenjibrooks4682]

The black one live in a district I live and I didn't even know until I watch this I believe because the camera is there why the parents take it so easy on them

[@mrchris6684]

The Jamaican families of these girls and parents, are just being nice because the camera's are on them....

[@serenityofsuicide]

Big Daddy Chris You mean of these boys right.

[@janeb9986]

True...

[@jevonabinns6198]

Are u a damn psychic or something that you're able to tell that they're only doing it because it's being filmed. What benefit will they get from pretending??? It won't make them famous or anything

[@taneishathompson7516]

Big Daddy Chris SO TRUE

[@cjallison8362]

I also believe they would've taken it very differently if the camera wasn't there...

[@Decadancehallking]

As a young gay Jamaican guy doing work advocacy work for queer rights, I have never encountered trans Jamaican people. Ever. I'm so proud of y'all for telling your stories, and I hope this gives more Jamaican trans people the courage to tell their stories too. Oooh this touched my heart, amazing, One love!

[@mattyrojar4137]

Lenworth 4

[@kaykaystewart3016]

Alo, the one with the lighter complexion was my high school classmate. We went to an all girl Catholic school in Montego Bay. She was always a "tomboy" even in the tunic. She walk like a boy and had the whole boyish demeanor. This is definitely not shocking to me to see her as a transgender.

[@kaheimreid2747]

Yep aloe had the longest name ever back in high school and yes VERY much tomboy. Not surprised at all.

[@katekamerun1550]

So you transitioned and the first time u wanna meet your parents u brought a camera crew of complete strangers! No privacy or respect. What nonsense! I would not see you with all them cameras.

[@lisapoole1219]

I feel you! Black ppl of all cultures are very private ( i say that ecause i speak from my OWN personal experience). We dont play bout having others in our business!

[@lisapoole1219]

Buuut, they just want to be heard and excepted. So i really feel for them.

[@lisa196409]

I only wish I was able to see my kids I miscarried three times and if I have my kids and got it blessed me with the birth of my kids and they were alive and well and one of them told me they were transgender or they wanted to transition into whatever they wanted to transition to I would be like be yourself and I would still love them although the world is full of hate I still would love my kid.

[@lisa196409]

Transgender people want to be respected not so much except it if their family doesn't respect them or accept them that's the problem respect from other people acceptance from their family

[@Joya8004]

$ talks

[@HelloItsMe-oy1hj]

that father is truly dying in side

[@virg0_lem0nade]

very brave of both of these guys to share their stories with their families!

[@dontmindme.imjustafraidofe9327]

If I were their family member, I would accept them with no strings attached. They are just being who they are inside, no matter what's between their legs.

[@PHlophe]

Jojo, but i'll wager plenty of jamaicans would accept, its just popular opinion holds more power.

[@djhumblesoul_japhillips887]

now that is an solid and insightful individual. .... awesome answer hun

[@PHlophe]

Djhumblesoul_Ja Phillips yes it is .

[@tunjilegba]

Mainly women would accept this because they are more emotive.

[@stellafaith504]

God dont make mistakes this is an insult

[@Hrhdgf]

I can't find money to pay my bills and they can find money for a transition! I really don't have my shit together!

[@naturalcurlyhair8331]

Lol, that's funny. No you got it together. You're trying and it's hard out here. Apts high as a kite gas, food going up but at the end of the day thank God I am a real woman and I thank God for men. Nothing I mean nothing like the real thing.

[@loveyu2778]

I know..how is this possible ?? Can't even get steroids to work out with..? There are way too many common people transitioning..

[@nginacopeland9432]

Love Yu2 the reason for people being able to transition. There are so many programs and medical insurance pays for these medications and surgeries.

[@geo745don]

ngina copeland What you hell I.can't even get decent non expensive dental coverage, but they can change their sex for free

[@marylee4553]

There are some free programs out there and the UK is a lot more open and cheaper than most countries.

[@tanyawilliams2902]

GOD IS REAL!!!!!! GOD IS NOT PLEASED WITH ALOT THATS GOING ON....GET READY FOR THE RETURN SOON!!!!!! I PRAISE GOD AND FOREVER WILL!!! I PRAY FOR THE LOST SOULS

[@nicolemurray2212]

Tanya Williams you’re a dumb ass brainwashed bitch

[@datboysora8876]

Chill

[@tialands4283]

13:10 that man is saying in his head, " wha the bumbo, rassclawt this!!" a because the camera deh bout.

[@40s_fit_and_fab30]

Jamaica’s call a spade a spade cameras or not if he thought this he would have said it .

[@raijoel3990]

Fantastic and eye opening for so many people around the world thank you two guys love you both for your courage and bravery...love from Hong Kong 🇭🇰

[@coppertone29ferdinandburke11]

But yet still Jamaican men treats women like handicrafts!!! When I analyzed the attitudes of most Jamaican men, I personally thinks there biggest fear is the light that shines on you coming out of the closet! Most of them are bisexual or gay. A straight man would never treat a woman the way most treats the woman.

[@dinowint6777]

lucian Burke Robertson shut the fuck up you stupid ass piece of shit

[@lisangelblack9070]

Black men are abusive and hateful towards Black women the world over.

[@shanequaaustin8908]

So true I agree

[@leonjayify]

Bull shit nigha you just love the demons that a guide you to chat shit

[@jadeacampbell5206]

Those men were probably raped. And so I rather them fight being gay then indulge in it.

[@patriciamalyango2367]

Let me ask this,do they still see their monthly periods?

[@BigFineDoll]

No. Hormones stop it

[@jucyjay8398]

Wow

[@childofkingjesusrichards2606]

🤔

[@mightyobserver12]

This is what i want. Coz im bleeding heavy when menstruating

[@nuffflavor]

Mom is like "Its all cool".... Dad is like "WTF!??!"

[@sheronapike]

nuffflavor lmao the dad is like tf

[@meacomefeyou]

I never heard any patent say "cool" in this video .Are you making believe lies just like these 2 GIRLS as well??

[@rainyg5998]

The dad wants to throw up over that sickening shit

[@marik781]

He like what have u done to my daughter

[@parlettascott2543]

Climate change

[@annate4347]

I'm glad they have each other.

[@Syble]

Who am I to judge?

[@Soneelicious]

chantilly lace you have the right to say your mind the reality is we all have opinions and people mistake it for being judgemental

[@bthechurch7877]

Telling someone right from wrong isn't judging, its loving them the right way. Once you've done that you've done your part. What one decides to do from that moment forward is on them.

[@jessicab331]

I wonder if this is why so many couples nowadays have "fertility" issues. Like how many trans ppl don't actually tell ppl how they were born. Now that's where I have an issue.

[@josephsdimension]

Jessica B. You're dumb lol, you can have fertility issues without being trans

[@jessicab331]

schmutzcityusa Stfu if yo DUMB ASS don get where I was coming from on don't comment. That's not what i said.

[@MissChinBK99]

This is a very eye opening comment! I never thought about this, wow, but now that you said it, this could really be the case in some of them because the trans ones could tell the doctor not to reveal it to their partner.

[@supaphresh91]

Most people know their partners are trans though, very few go around hiding it especially, especially trans men. You'd find out they were trans long before you got to the point of having children.

[@meacomefeyou]

IF I dont like my face, nose, home,whats between my legs can I make you people pay for it just because I don't like myself?? No. Meanwhile despite homosexuals claiming they are just like you and me they get " non emergency surgeries " and hormones at taxpayers expense. All to push homosexual agenda and a lie. Truth cost less and doesn't funnel money for pharmaceutical companies , doctors accounts for surgeries and politicians votes in exchange to promoting this convenient trendy deception. Serious foundation of lies is how they reunite? Despicable.

[@dp7047]

To tell his dad, " You HAVE to say he" is DEAD WRONG!!!! Quit forcing your ideals on people

[@shawnsorrell4418]

his sis is pretty

[@michaella9579]

Anybody know the songs they were playing in the background?

[@thagreatest_unknown2842]

K Babie buju

[@blasianluvschocolate397]

Boom bye bye by buju baton

[@Barb1eSwallows]

As a transgender woman this video made me cried when he reunited with his father and as he accepted him as his son even though he will view him as his daughter.

[@100lesbianfilms]

Ramario is still following his journey . Seffan is not a he and is trying change back to been a woman she turn her back on the community and has embraced christianity. I met her this year as we are connect by family .

[@awesomelifeoftwins7021]

@@100lesbianfilms thank god

[@uj12678]

@@100lesbianfilms what’s steffans social media

[@Danielblixareed]

@@100lesbianfilms how do you know this? Is Steffan now called Stephanie again? That shocked me I would never thought he’d transition back to her original gender.

[@vikkistar3104]

@jackuk57 the Bible says nothing about transgender people

[@jakejones5736]

So, when I wear an Obama mask for halloween, does that make me the President?

[@des_antilles]

+Jake Jones do you feel internally that you are obama?

[@jakejones5736]

+JoshTheGreat Damn straight! So why don't I get to live in the White House?

[@des_antilles]

you tell me

[@jakejones5736]

+JoshTheGreat Oh I don't know. Maybe because I am NOT the President?

[@des_antilles]

lmao you're the one that said damn straight you're obama...make up your mind bud

[@djgenius626]

wow, they took it good, some Jamaican would probably loose it,

[@marik781]

Dj Genius they were in front of the camara thats why

[@lisa196409]

Really? Then Jamaica has some catching up to do

[@seanharper8788]

Lisa S no thanks. Keep that western illness to themselves.

[@elainethomas2761]

@@seanharper8788 true

[@jadeacampbell5206]

@@lisa196409 no they dont

[@danzdow88]

My heart breaks for the Father

[@Godschosen11.11]

Deep down the father feel a way💯

[@danzdow88]

@@Godschosen11.11 yup

[@alexmichael4256]

very brave men you both are, the courage and strength it took to take this step is very inspiring. My girlfriend is from Jamaica and I am a trans male. When she talks about taking me home to visit I become very nervous and scared as I know how homophobic and trans phobic the people are in Jamaica. I don't think Ill be able to go there till I fully resemble a man. Sending you both positive vibes thank you so much for showing your story. Wishing you both all the best.

[@maxinerose4559]

Alex Michael

[@sarahnicole45]

I fully support and love these two guys. I hope they stay strong and know they're loved

[@dorrettestevens6050]

Demonic force at work the biggest fool is the one that fool them self

[@gforceforever]

This is the best documentary on transgender men that I've seen so far.

[@shianflower6933]

In reality without the camera it would be different if he started to live there again the community would know of what is happening and that would be another story for him and his family.

[@veronicaayertey8991]

Man can never be wiser than God

[@evonjohnson4078]

Some of them believed that they are. Paul states in Romans 1 verse 22. "Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools."

[@jesusislife2837]

@@angelinapatt5589 you don't understand the scripture honey nor the context. Yes, God is love; He is also a Holy and righteous judge. All those who belong to Christ are supposed to Love our neighbor, that is one of the easy fruits of the spirit but that doesn't mean we agree with everyone we love. One thing is for sure. We can never change what is written nor Gods standards. We are the ones to change, be converted, have a renewed mind, not God. He is perfect. If we're not willing to bow down to him and his standard of rightouesness then we make ourselves enemies of God. Period. He is the Potter we are the clay. What he says is final. It's time we repent and stop thinking we know everything when we don't. All honor and glory belongs to the only true and wise God the Lord Jesus Christ. God bless. "Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity." 2 Timothy 2:19

[@samdobie6748]

God doesn't exist

[@angelinapatt5589]

@@jesusislife2837 you are HILARIOUS! I am still amazed by tje fact that even nowadays there are STILL some people that actually BELIEVE that shit. Trully amazing. 😂😂😂😂

[@veronicaayertey8991]

@@samdobie6748 may God help you

[@lalabooda2168]

Romario and Steffan: You guys are so brave to have told your story - Thank you. They say the Bible does not support this lifestyle, but the truth is Jesus accepted social outcasts and would have accepted you. God bless you always.

[@marias5614]

Jesus accepted outcast, but Jesus said to the woman caught in adultery, go and sin no more.God bless.Amen

[@janofalltrades9956]

I am so confused, if the both of you were born women ,and wanted to be a men,then how are you attracted to each other. If you were born a female and are attracted to a Woman portraying a male then why not be straight and be with a male? Or perhaps a feminine male?? Why change yourself to a man to be with a man why not be the woman and be with a man?

[@rexxneil6739]

@Msfitamazon these two men don't have to be a straight female to like men, in fact ma'am alot of transmen in the world prefers to date men and alot of transwomen in the world prefers to date women. It's all about love ma'am

[@charlenemonique1]

I used to wonder the same thing until I learned gender identity and sexual preference are two different things.

[@djhumblesoul_japhillips887]

+charlene adkins that's right miss adkins

[@Kodak718]

your gender identity and your sexual preference are not the same thing. just because you are a woman doesn't mean you want to be with a man...just cause you are a man doesnt mean you want to be with a woman. they could both be bi or pansexual. gender does not dictate sexuality

[@christiandoodles]

Won't get pregnant if ya with a woman

[@bradw.9790]

so not supporting something makes me evil? - i thought we all had a choice

[@MultiChubby1]

Would aso say that gay - lesbian has nothing to do with transgender. The two should NEVER be confused

[@TheMeeksterAdventures]

I agree.I am lesbian but dont interact with trans people at all. AT ALL!

[@Sid_enuh]

ThaMeekster why

[@parlettascott2543]

Every man stand on his own two feet and every tub sit on it's own bottom,,,,,but dont draw sadom and gomorrow near me boss man

[@candisbrown1275]

What that mean sadom and gamera from the bible is that wear god sent the angels to kill off the

[@jazzyb.channel]

When his dad cried i did too😭😭😭😭

[@powergirl7619]

God doesn't make mistakes to change oneself is wrong .😔

[@yeabsiraabebe669]

Powergirl 76 exactly thanks you . God is sooo perfect

[@dothedeed]

So if your baby is born with a deformity that can be corrected you'll refuse the surgery because "god doesn't make mistakes". If you get cancer - no chemo for you right? God wants you to die so you're just gonna die

[@ritashadelondon6004]

I'm actually proud of them for doing this they look absolutely handsome if I was a family member I would support them 100%

[@charlzwill495]

I realise for a while now people are tryna force their perceptions or perspectives on others! One great way to do that is through media. I felt it for the father the most! Having a daughter and then them changing into a male. Some people won't get what kind of pain this brings on a family! It's also a cultural thing and most people having identity crisis because they are lead to believe that women should lol a certain way and se with men but some women are just more masculine and some men are just abit more feminine. They just need to tap into the more dominant side and accept how they are born. It's also has a lot to do with foods that we are not consuming that have high levels of estrogen which can affect hormones and change body shapes. That's why it's so important time ever to let your children know who they are

[@lloydoconnor8755]

Charlene Williams so what u say about people standing up for racism and equality...aren't they forcing their perceptions on the racists? u have clear ignorance but I understand you

[@Ebonygazelle]

I feel for everybody in this. However you can't help noticing how the dominant culture tries to enforce its own values on other cultures. This time they are using a black faces to front it to Jamaicans. Jamaicans will never accept it though. Well done BBC. ... its called aggressive brain washing by media, trying to get the whole world to accept the emperor has no clothes on. Our bodies decides our sex. Y chromosome - Male. X chromosme - Female. They have not been able to find a homosexual gene. It doesnt exist. Biological sex is not assigned either. Identity conflict has to do with thinking and feeling. Its a pyschological problem. If I was to go and see my doctor and announce I feel fat everytime I look in the mirror yet I look anorexic or I feel suicidal, that doctor would sign me up to see the pschiatrist. Today you are told you are transgender etc and encouraged to remove bits and pieces of yourself. Now they are trying to override parents wishes and indoctrinate our children from preschool that they can be trapped in the wrong body and align any calm opposing traditional views with racism or homophobia. Madness. The emperor has no clothes on.

[@danalan9559]

Wow , U made a great point, the consumption of food .Never thought about it .

[@pj13565]

Charlene Williams u

[@pj13565]

Charlene Williams j,mjuuuu

[@rainingblueflowers990]

My entire family is from 🇯🇲 and I don't think this is going to go well.

[@m.cgaming2372]

I wish them the best

[@telskelly2492]

poor dad

[@brotherhoodrugby8956]

Her brother is like "What the hell happened to you?"

[@beatricemuthoni307]

I am contentious abt hw God created me.I believe God is perfectionist.I will never embrace this ...

[@tuskvet99]

Is God a perfectionist when children are born with severe helath defects too? Should they live like that because God made them that way or use modern medical advances to help them live better?

[@surey411]

@@tuskvet99 Ask God that question when you die Sir. Looking for answers from mere humans who only know just as much as you is quite ridiculous.

[@ninjaboyz121]

@@surey411 that’s the only argument christians have i swear

[@m.cgaming2372]

@@ninjaboyz121 real talk

[@nordette]

How long have they been in the UK? I'm just surprised their jamaican accent has changed and they sound english.

[@becauselionsss]

SOCIETY SUCKS I'm proud of these people for actually coming out to their parents and facing them

[@Amzzz101]

+Abbie T PREACH!

[@kamudawellington1075]

you gonna burn in hell, everyone, even the stupid knows that you are what you born, if you born a boy you are.... these sick devils are gonna burn fa eternity and you also

[@ruddiato]

Imagine your sister coming to u in a man formation,SMH. Very disturbing and the sad part is they want you to believe it's normal.

[@TarantulaCandy]

imagine you trying to tell an adult what they can and can't do with their bodies/lives and you try make others believe is normal

[@djblondi138]

ruddiato i agree ....they want us to except it ...i won't

[@TarantulaCandy]

@@djblondi138 you don't have to accept it, why in the hell would I want you to accept something you have no say or relevancy to it?. bitch please you give your ass too much credit.

[@grazingrazz8591]

@@djblondi138 What you won't "accept" (btw) is acceptance. If you can't expand your thought processes you're gonna be left in the dust.

[@djblondi138]

TarantulaCandy you comments means nothing to me ...bitch

[@edwardfisher2186]

you can see in the families face, real pain...shock & disbelief at what their female family counterpart has become, I don't know if I could accept my child changing their sex...weird

[@marik781]

Edward Fisher if my daughter came to me as a man, i would be like what have u done to my daughter..and dont come back until you bring her back

[@lisa196409]

It's still your child

[@TheMohanroache]

jamaica has never been hostile towards lesbians, if they were males transitioning into females the outcome would have been dramatically different. lesbians have a status in jamaica similar to minorities in a racist place, they may be tolerated but may not be popularly accepted, in most cases lebians are well liked by their peers; but when it comes to gay men that's when violent attacks and mobbing will be a response, hence i don't understand her saying she feels more free and safe in the UK than in jamaica as if Jamaicans hunt down lesbians and kill them. i grew up seeing lebians cross dress and express their sexuality in my school and community i never saw the same for gay men, in fact i never even thought gay men existed. there is no sad story for lesbians in jamaica, this documentary has overly sensitized the issue of lesbians in jamaica.

[@shanziepanzie]

+TheMohanroache same thing I was saying... I was like this is so dramatic for no reason really, because lesbians are rarely if ever oppressed or preyed upon in Jamaica

[@Decadancehallking]

+shanziepanzie umm it may be slightly less hatred for lesbians than gay men, but yes they are oppressed. I know Jamaican women who were targeted and raped because they were lesbian. Please educate yourself and stop minimizing the struggles of an already vulnerable group.

[@kimikoblack5139]

DeejayCray you have persons out there that go after lesbians too, I know because I've seen it.. You have persons out there killing females just because they are lesbians whether dressed as a guy or not

[@sammimitsu]

Wow. Jamaica looks beautiful. Good luck to these 2 guys. They deserve happiness and to be the person they are inside on the outside as well.

[@living.my.life.]

Watched few of these documentaries and it helped me understand a lot about the LGBT community in general. In the end its all about happiness and we as people need to do what ever we can to be happy as long as it doesnt hurt anyone. Props to these guys for stepping up and inspiring other and helping me as a straight man understand how difficult once life can be in such situations :)

[@andreamckenley7879]

U sound gay

[@andreamckenley7879]

@ms honey Sorry I didn’t write that!

[@Lifebydesignvlogs]

Wow no one actually harm them both.....moral of the story is not all Jamaicans or homophobic.....

[@stilllaughingify]

No let me correct that. Not all jamaicans are murderers. Many of us try to keep God's commandments. However we do view these actions as an abomination to the Lord.

[@saymslee]

Nobody trouble them because of the camera crew

[@eddiejohn7989]

Tyson King ha

[@dthompson1313]

If the cameras weren't there it would be a totally different story. Jamaicans are the greatest actors.

[@gkus7008]

dthompson1313 how come we havent won any oscars then?

[@tialands4283]

Jeeze i hope you never got hurt. I am Jamaican living in Jamaica and i must admit tha we can keep up a bag a fuckery more time. We are not all homophobes.

[@erilovechild]

Lmao playing Buju in the background

[@lovemefr4219]

this had mii weakkk 😭

[@loverose329]

dem hips don't lie lol

[@ld7829]

Love Rose lmao 🤣

[@Droze-gj4zw]

Love Rose yes

[@andrew69007]

I get the joke but cis men can have wider hips lol

[@lorenzoceresa99]

Fuck off

[@09kenedy]

Lorenzo Ceresa it’s true though. They look mad fem.

[@tesianata]

My bf is transgender i have never been with someone trans before had never even met someone trans before him. He was amazed at how i never judged him was surprised when i would proudly hold his hand in public and kiss him in front of other people. He said exes of his weren't as open to displaying affection with him in public and he wasn't used to that. Honestly me when i look at him i dont see a woman never have he is a man to me and treats me better than any other man I've ever been with & I will continue to support him in all his dreams & endeavors he chooses to go through in life.

[@patriciapowell1560]

I pray for you both but I believe in what god said his word is the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

[@magicalkatze]

What did god say about trans people?

[@TheTrueforeigner]

long time mi nuh hear Buju 😂😂😂

[@chrisspowell8116]

TheTrueforeigner they remove boom bye bye off youtube , gay them powerful yo

[@zuberi4805]

chriss powell they did not

[@jadeacampbell5206]

@@zuberi4805 shut uppp

[@zuberi4805]

Jadea Campbell lol the hell I do empress?!

[@LornaMorgan-bj4xy]

TheTrueforeigner...whoiii😂😂😂

[@dondi2129]

Where are they now in their journey? We would love a follow up.

[@soursop]

damn you two are brave, I was scared to even watch . Best of luck in life though

[@z0elifeofgod316]

soursop 9p

[@basetsekhmet5429]

WTH were you scared of???! You all bunch of idiots! These two boys came home and were accepted and then they continue to spread this propaganda against my country!!! And shame on you Jamaicans who jump on this bandwagon shaming our country and our people in defense of this IMBALANCED behavior!!!

[@HeyMeagz]

In all honesty Jamaica is a very religious country and for generations those morals have been instilled in them so it's hard for them to deal with it because of ignorance. I believe that because of sin certain things in today's world are they way they are. That's another topic. All I can say to you is stay strong because it's not easy nor fair.

[@DrGoddessMonaSexTherapistBMsc]

I have a gay male Jamaican friend who says that most of the men in Jamaica or bisexual but They don’t want anyone to know and they will have sex with a gay man and then pretend like they didn’t 🤷🏽‍♀️ I was very happy that the dad came around and show emotion towards his own child. It doesn’t matter who the person is they were created and designed that way. No one chooses to be transgender. They are born that way. I have many transgender friends and I always have since I was in elementary school. So love is love and you have to be happy in your own skin no matter what others think of that

[@k1baede728]

It's good to know that I'm not the only lgbtq+ Jamaican out there

[@uj12678]

i support the community and i wish u the best esp if u live there, best of luck :)

[@dalefrancis393]

Daddy is a real man and showing no matter what he loves his child 🙏

[@mzwisdom7504]

They both found each other and gained the courage. JA is no joke with alternative life styles.

[@MiaRosenbloom]

As a trans woman, it does hurt my feelings when I hear my loved ones say things like.... "I don't believe in it, but I accept it." However, that's an acceptable answer in my opinion. They're basically saying "I don't like what you're doing. But if this is what makes you happy, then I'm gonna be tolerant and let you live your life." There's no sense in asking for more than that.

[@JOURNEYWITHKEVIN]

Am wondering what my experience will be like when I return to Jamaica. I am a Transman too. But I have not returned since I started Transitioning... Nice video bro best regards

[@kativat2068]

I think its always more accepting when a woman transitions into a man

[@JOURNEYWITHKEVIN]

My family is big and most of them are christians 3 brothers are 1 bishop 2 pastors they will never understand. Half my family don't speak to me but oh well...

[@deltadon4620]

@@JOURNEYWITHKEVIN have you tried being a normal girl?

[@rhodwilliams7258]

"Transman" 😂 No, just a chick full of artificial testosterone I'm afraid.

[@JOURNEYWITHKEVIN]

@@rhodwilliams7258 I am smiling at your comment. You just made my day. I would like to educate you some more as to who we are as transgenders. But first check the Google definition of Transgenders. Then you can visit my channel for educational and motivational videos from Transmen with lived experience...

[@tonib9475]

Can anyone tell me the name of the song at 4:31? Thanks : )!

[@mycamcdonald8198]

Buju bontan bye bye

[@alandrade8083]

Again the bible is full filling its prophecy

[@ewwbitches3454]

The Bible was mistranslated and altered SO many times.

[@szaswhore]

fuck off bitch worry about yourself

[@Gmystycal]

Stupes

[@thyschyck]

*Fulfilling...

[@teensforglee8372]

You’re clearly living in the 10th century

[@hopeful_krystal]

I understand being gay, like liking the Same gender, but what makes a person want to change their physical appearance? like hormone therapy, etc. can someone please explain? also can it be reversed? like if one of them were to stop taking hormones would they gradually and very slowly revert back to being female?

[@sunshinesunflowerz1647]

Chase the Stars if someone feels they were into the wrong body but wanted to change it, in order to free themselves or whatever bondage that’s been having a hold on them, why not?

[@mohamedahmedyassinhussein6856]

They feel Like they are in the wrong gender so they transition, and after hormones some of the changes are permanent such as the voice and facial /body hair and baldness and the growing of the clit those things will never change even if they stop taking hormones

[@sabrina-vl8ni]

Someone would be transgender as if they feel like their trapped in the wrong body, their body doesn’t match up with their gender identity.

[@derykamey3626]

I wish you both the best. I hope to see a time when people no longer kill or hurt people based on gender or sexuality. Love is love. You both are so very courageous. I commend the strength you both have. Xo❤

[@Shockwave33333333333]

Im jamaican and I can already guess the outcome....