Transport Evolved News TEN Episode 473: Cybertrucks Aren't REALLY Rusting...

[@lyledal]

On my one cross country trip in an EV, I'd say half of my stops were at Walmart. The company adding more charging nationwide is just smart. You have to keep yourself entertained while the car charges, so might as well do some light shopping in the Walmart.

[@vylbird8014]

Funny story about something like that in the UK. There are a lot of supermarkets with car chargers that are constantly out-of-order. They aren't actually broken. Supermarkets installed them some years back when electricity was cheap, for the same reason Walmart did: People would come to charge, and do their shopping while they wait. The extra shopping would outweigh the very small cost of electricity. Then Putin decided to start a war, energy prices shot up, and the price of electricity with it - by more than 600%, without the protection of the price cap that applies only to residential service. Suddenly that 'free' charging was costing a lot of money! But there was no way to charge for it because the charging stations physically didn't have the hardware for payment processing. So the manager has to go around the back and yank the big circuit breaker switch, then send someone to put 'out of order' signs on all the chargers.

[@waynelevett3632]

We have free charging everywhere & cheap electric in western Australia 🦘🦘. I pay 8 cents AUD from 9 am to 3 pm then 55 cents until 9 pm then it's 20 cents per kW. 9 pm till 9 am. We're the lucky country.

[@darthsirrius]

What would be really sexy is if they were to supplement chargers with covered parking for all their stores with solar panels on top, along with maybe a couple of container batteries. Then they could power their stores and their Chargers essentially for free most days. At the very least it would work great out here in sunny Arizona, and also people wouldn't be walking out to 150° F steering wheels and car seats in the summer.

[@vylbird8014]

@@darthsirrius You've got to make the business case though. Yes, it saves money in the long run - but that might take ten years. A 20% RoI is a great investment, but will the store even be there that long? Big chains close and open stores a lot on that time scale, as the business environment shifts.

[@VolkerHett]

At the supermarket where I do my weekly grocery run they have a gasl station on the exit from the parking lots where I used to fill up my car on the way back to my home. Now I "fill" up my cars batteries at the charging station in front of the market while I am shopping. It actually saves some time! Especially on Fridays the gas station is pretty busy and you have to queue up for the pump and then at the cashiers. Oh! Charging is not free!

[@LesterSuggs]

Absolutely the best weekly EV program on any media format, delivered with respect and accuracy. Always glad to be here. Thank you, ladies.

[@nthused]

Thank you Nikki and Crew! Y’all are amazing!!!

[@WeGetmillions]

Thank you Nikki for starting the show with a supportive mental health statement. It was helpful to me and returning the favor. I hope you know you are loved and supported. Sending positive energy and thoughts to you, Kate, and the team.

[@shanefiddle]

Yay for the TE news show! You all are freaking awesome, and deserve to be paid for your hard work! Thanks for all you do, and thanks to all the Patrons of this channel. You all make the dream work.

[@ericvet8b]

Even though I’m not part of a minority group…., your ending made me smile (and yes, I’m awesome as I watch your videos!! 😂). Thank you and best to you all too! ❤

[@psdaengr911]

It's nice to hear rational explanations for things that are disturbing but shouldn't be. I have an SUV who's paint job is a dark metallic maroon. When I was cleaning last year in preparation for sealing it, I was surprised to find how much embedded dirt and iron contamination there was of the surface. CyberTrucks are "rust magnets" just like dark painted cars are dust magnets. ANY exposed non-noble metal surface would have similar contamination. "Stainless" steel isn't. If an owner wants stainless steel to continue to look shiny and bright rather than develop the dull grayish tan protective patina that stainless steel will develop, they will clean and apply some kind of sealant to it as part of scheduled maintenance.

[@rifterzc]

The Ford engineer short was really sweet. TE is always awesome🥰

[@macbuff81]

Stainless does NOT mean stain proof. I work in construction and there's a reason it's used in only certain applications. Having a clear coat on a car is one way car manufacturers prevent oxidation (i.e. rust).

[@mikapeltokorpi7671]

Everyone who has born and lived their childhood in a steel factory town knows this.

[@gameworkerty]

Apparently the steel in the cybertruck will corrode if you add a clear coat

[@amazingeducationquestionsa1367]

@@gameworkertyWhere did you see that ? Just a rumor or any data ? Are you trying to make a joke ? I don’t like the look of the trucks already, much less if rusty.

[@Hybridog]

DeLorean had DuPont develop beautiful clear color paint that apparently looked fantastic. However, it was never deployed because it would only last about 4-5 years before it peeled off the stainless. It's likely this is still the case, that paints of any kind, inlcuding clear coats, won't bond properly to stainless. Stainless doesn't "rust" in the same way that regular carbon steel does. Generally, "rust" on stainless is caused by contaminents and metals on the surface that get wet. You can alleviate this to some degree by passivating the metal - which creates a non-rustforming oxide layer. I have no idea if this oxide layer is durable. Stainless in general is a bad choice for automotive bodywork use.

[@zachkane7378]

I really enjoyed seeing the Twizzy in the picture when you were talking about getting people in EVs.

[@eamonstack4139]

Thanks Nikki, great news round-up. Long live Vectrix and all older EV leader vehicles. Eamon

[@64Pomboy]

really enjoy your videos.

[@olebloom1641]

Always good to watch and be informed with out over hyping.

[@jessebrook1688]

I'm predicting that a clearcoat for CyberTrucks is going to be a very lucrative business for paint shops in the near future.

[@geirmyrvagnes8718]

I'm predicting wrapping cybertrucks will be a significant niche business in the intermediate future.

[@davidpearn5925]

For margin boosting reasons Tesla will be leaning on you (much more than the legacy ones) to ‘protect’ YOUR investment for the ultimate benefit of TSLA investors. The perfect circle……….right Elon ?.

[@geirmyrvagnes8718]

@@davidpearn5925 Much less than legacy ones, but yes. Legacy truck guys are sent out to work with thin and soft metal panels covered by delicate paint that must be kept intact. I mean, doors that will dent if you just kick them really hard? Oils and stuff that must be changed regularly or you brick the vehicle permanently? In 2024? 😆

[@davidpearn5925]

@@geirmyrvagnes8718 The latest supercars popping up from MG/SAIC and BYD demonstrate clearly that without significant targeted protection, China will own the auto space. In using the Chinese for their own purposes - the Germans, GM and Tesla have exported the IP guaranteeing their own demise. Our Model 3 replacement > the fully loaded Seal is staggering German quality for less than the cheapest Tesla. It’s over.

[@geirmyrvagnes8718]

@@davidpearn5925 I think you meant that as a reply to somebody else. 🙄

[@robertn2951]

Rusty Cybertrucks look badass.

[@davidmenasco5743]

Patina baby!!

[@patreekotime4578]

I guess... so much for the hydrogen future! I do feel bad for the people who bought a hydrogen car in california who will now have more difficulty refilling though.

[@theairstig9164]

I don’t

[@teardowndan5364]

Wherever you have two dissimilar metals touching with moisture present will form a galvanic corrosion cell and rust. Anyone who has left random metal stuff in their wet stainless kitchen sink for long enough already knows that and the joys of using scouring pads to buff it out. If you don't want rusty dots on your stainless steel panels, put some car wax on so rain and metallic dust doesn't sit directly on the steel.

[@transportevolved]

Galvanic corrosion is a thing…. But usually it requires a long physical connection and an electrical current…

[@Pottery4Life]

@@transportevolved In this case, the microcurrent is produced chemically.

[@teardowndan5364]

@@transportevolved You do have current: when two dissimilar metals (stainless steel and whatever may be in airborne dust) in contact with each other, you get a galvanic potential. Once you add acid rain or other electrolyte to shuttle ions, you also get a galvanic current between the sides of the metallic dust particle and surrounding stainless steel surface. The physical path length doesn't matter much here, only its existence. Regarding the long physical path, you were likely thinking about something else like ground loops where the amount of EMI and parasitic current getting induced in or transmitted by it scales with the loop's enclosed area. Yes, this can contribute to galvanic corrosion by adding external energy to the process but isn't necessary.

[@transportevolved]

Good point, @@teardowndan5364 and thanks for the clarification. I was up waaaay too late making this video last night (midnight) and my coffee hasn't kicked in yet - Nikki.

[@leax_Flame]

As someone who doesn’t like crossovers and small SUVs…that EV Equinox is looking quite appealing at that price.

[@restonthewind]

I didn't catch the part where Cybertrucks aren't REALLY rusting ...

[@beachcrow]

That Cybertruck "rust" is just surface contamination. If you're OCD you can easily remove it with liquid Bar Keeper's Friend or worst case a blue non-scratch Scotch Brite pad.

[@ericvet8b]

10:34 no surprise that China is ahead of anyone else… we can moan a lot about them but when they plan to do somethjng, they do it properly… Will have impact on other countries/companies trying to do same, but also will probably accelerate the development of these.

[@bazoo513]

0:16 - One would expect all A/C experts to also be heat pump experts - after all, those are the same thing. (E.g. I at the moment heat my apartment by my A/C setup - switching from cooling to heating involves configuring of few valves initiated by a single button on the remote and taking about five seconds; it can even be done automatically based on thermostat setting.)

[@HWKier]

When my home AC needed replacing last year, the AC companies I contacted disparaged heat pumps. They seem to still have the idea that heat pumps don't function adequately in winter heating mode, which in the past was true.

[@bazoo513]

@markplott4820 Yeah, but those are _exactly_ the same machines working on Carnot cycle. I hope they don't try to sell people _separate_ A/C units and heat pumps.

[@GaryJohnWalker1]

Never a big fan of their mushy autos, but great news BW is licence building BYD blade batteries. Should ease some of the panic over direct Chinese imports or even Chinese factories in the west.

[@kRaCkrrjAcK]

Have a great Saturday all !

[@colewilborn]

Almost every buc-ees in Texas has rows of tesla chargers that are usually packed. Buc-ees is known here for being more than just a gas station (some have over 100 gas pumps and large freight trucks aren't allowed), so it was a smart move for them to branch out to the EV charging market as well.

[@buzzofftoxicblog791]

❤😊 Happy Sunday 😊. I love hearing all the good news about what's happening around our world with the transition to clean renewable electric transport systems

[@joecoolioness6399]

Until they can produce the batteries cleanly, recycle them cleanly, and produce electricity cleanly, we won't be transitioning any time soon. Currently the cleanest way to generate electricity is nuclear and it scares people so we won't be building more of those plants. Every other "clean" electricity generator costs way too much and also isn't 100% clean. We need to solve all that first before pushing this EV agenda (and this is coming from an EV driver).

[@wooddavid8293]

Thanks!

[@capnkirk5528]

I'll believe the Equinox when I SEE it. And without the incentive, it's still out of reach for average people.

[@scottmcshannon6821]

i thought the bolt was coming back and was going to be the cheapest GM EV. was that a lie? did mary lie again?

[@jamespaul2587]

Agreed, plus it's far from production, and base trims will not be available at launch. Expect launch versions to be at least 10k higher

[@davidmenasco5743]

​@@scottmcshannon6821To be fair, she didn't specify what century. Or even what millennium. So we'll have to give her some time.

[@rogerhoffmore9262]

The Owner's Manual warning that Tesla gives regarding cleaning off the Cybertruck is literally, word for word, identical to the warning it gives for its other models.

[@Pottery4Life]

Thank you!

[@davidroddini1512]

1:12 They aren’t rusting. It’s oxidizing. 😉

[@HWKier]

A symantic distinction.

[@skipwalker1954]

I've got a Delorean which has a stainless-steel exterior. Guess what - it rusts. It has to be cleaned. The Cybertruck doing the same is not totally surprising.

[@canis9178]

The new Ionna system using NACS will be a convenient addition, hopefully with service amenities included.

[@geirmyrvagnes8718]

Let us hope so.

[@Hans-gb4mv]

The name and brands involved make me think about Ionity in Europe. The chargers are not bad and often in convenient locations, but they are not building anything else except installing the chargers.

[@Diasus3205]

Thank you for this quick update for the week

[@ElectricCarAustralia]

Another great episode TE Team. Keep em coming 👍

[@aaronalter2000]

Thank you for your video. I hope that we'll see affordable and reliable solid state batteries in EVs in 10 years.

[@HuffnPuff22]

In the marine industry which has the harshest environment, we use a stainless steel polish that protects the steel from rusting for up to 6 months. I think that would be a great option

[@ericvet8b]

7:03 very good idea for all those eBikes things… 😊

[@simson4t]

The Tesla cyber truck rusting is most likely a passivation. Finished stainless steel parts have to be passivated to be completely rust free. Passivation removes Iron particles from the surface and enhances the chromium oxide layer that makes it rust free.

[@avsystem3142]

Correct. Rust resistance in SST alloys is dependent of the chromium content. However, that doesn't mean that SST won't discolor when exposed to reagents (acids and bases). The 303/304 SST typically used for household items is moderately stain resistant. For commercial and industrial use 316 SST is used for greater stain resistance. It has a higher chromium content and is more expensive. Some years ago I designed a a product used for chemical analysis of certain fluids. I specified a large plate of 316 SST to which various components were attached. The process used strong acids and bases. After introduction the research department complained that the SST plate was becoming discolored and unattractive. I was required to specify that the SST part be painted (epoxy paint) so it maintained a better appearance.

[@joshb2812]

Even on a marketing vehicle, GM still can’t get body panels to fit. Look at the hood gap between passenger and driver side. That’s laughably bad! 🤣

[@madcow3417]

I have a full automated car wash in my garage so I can wash it after every trip. Doesn't everyone? Aren't black boxes standard in cars yet?

[@Skotty64081]

I don't know what the characteristics of the Cybertruck stainless steel are, but the right variant will look good for a seriously long time. DeLorean bodies still look just fine, despite being 40+ years old. This was from back when a regular steel car body would be rusting out in 10 years. Is the Cybertruck stainless showing rust in less than a year? I doubt it, even if it's a flawed stainless blend. I'd be more inclined to believe it's just FUD as there's a lot of that going around right now.

[@avsystem3142]

l think people are just conflating surface staining with rusting. They are not the same. Even 316 SST will discolor when exposed to some chemicals (acids and bases) but it isn't rust (iron oxide).

[@AlainODea]

"Oh, arise now, ye Tarnished. Ye dead, who yet live. The call of long-lost Grace speaks to us all." Elon Ring I suspect a ceramic coating might be wise for CyberTruck owners in saltier or generally wetter places.

[@thedarknessthatcomesbefore4279]

🤣👍

[@AlainODea]

@@thedarknessthatcomesbefore4279username checks out. Prince of Nothing series fan?

[@thedarknessthatcomesbefore4279]

@@AlainODea yep you are quite correct sir.

[@AlainODea]

@@thedarknessthatcomesbefore4279 god tier grimdark. I read the whole series through Aspect Emperor and Unholy Consult. Very bleak but so good!

[@thedarknessthatcomesbefore4279]

@@AlainODea got to agree with you. Initially pulled in by the world building and the philosophical questions. Loved the characters and I was rather worried about how Bakker was going to end it as epic stories often have very unsatisfactory ending but I was happy with what he did. Still want to know more but probably best left as it is.

[@KevinLyda]

Aptera looks great but its still way too wide. Fine for the US market but no way im driving that on Irish roads. One or both front wheels would get destroyed the first time it leaves a motorway.

[@Duaneoca]

My I4 turns off if the driver door is open and the brake pedal isn’t depressed. After the story about the car driving itself into the ocean, i understand why. :)

[@davidmenasco5743]

Quite an oversight for Toyota. But then, maybe they're hoping more EVs will roll into the ocean. (Cartoon of Toyoda - thought bubble: "Problem solved?")

[@davidpearn5925]

Don’t park your cybertruck anywhere near a railway line (commuting?) and get that iron dust eat away while you’re away.

[@milohobo9186]

EV charging stations are a truly missing opportunity. You have a capturee population who must wait for their car to charge. If course you offer bathrooms and coffee for sale. But you can also offer meals, snack, a pass to use the wifi, an arcade, and more. Then you offer up the ad space since you have generally a higher income population there to advertise to that is stuck there for a longer time. I am surprised no one has done this on a larger scale.

[@davidmenasco5743]

I think the issue is going to be the rate of customer flow through the station. A gas station can cycle over a hundred people through the doors in an hour. Quick stop type amenities will begin to make sense at fast charging sites when the number of dispensers gets to be more than a couple dozen, and especially after charging speeds have gotten significantly higher. Until then, the better match for charging sites will be shopping centers and grocery stores and entertainment centers.

[@thevintageaudiolife]

In college I lived in Rochester, I drove 76 Monte Carlo with mismatch doors and looked like something out of Mad Max the movie that had less rust than the cybertruck, i miss that car!

[@Duaneoca]

I’ve been beginning to wonder if access to Tesla superchargers is much of a benefit. So many teslas are being sold that the supercharger stations are likely to be very crowded even before other electric vehicles get access. Of course, it would be nice to be able to use a supercharger station when a ccs station isn’t available (or the chargers are broken) but I doubt I’d just jump over to Tesla stations if it was possible.

[@jdear97]

I have been a cyclist and motorcyclist for years. I always encourage friends and acquaintances to take a rider safety course for motorcycles, wear a helmet on their bicycles and have their bicycles set up properly for use on the road. What I actually see is coworkers that purchase scooter and e-bikes that exceed both speed limits and their abilities while they often wear insufficient protective gear and ride very poorly while wearing ear buds and playing music. Most of them have had crashes resulting in injuries and then blame the vehicles for being dangerous. I don't know how to make them understand that you must ride understanding there is a real risk and that you should plan for a crash to attempt to avoid one. It has been disappointing to watch the developments.

[@jdear97]

The Tesla Model 3 and BMW i3 both go to park when the drivers door opens, they also hold when the come to a stop unless creep mode is selected.

[@1964mcqueen]

I was hoping that this channel would provide more detail on the J.D. Power reliability study. Specifically, what were the issues reported? How many power train issues were reported? Were issues related to new model growing pains? The sort that all new models suffer? They said that E.V.s wear through tires more quickly - more quickly than what? - My Leaf is on the same tires it had when I bought it used 5 years ago (I fit winter tires every winter). How does E.V. tire wear compare to the large pickups and SUVs we see so much of on roads, especially in North America? I read the summary on their web-site, that talked about squeaks and rattles and interior issues. This sounds like new model issues, not EV issues.

[@robingoergner725]

I would take the J.D. Power report with a grain of salt without knowing the quality of the data that was gathered or how it was analyzed.

[@1964mcqueen]

@@robingoergner725 Agreed

[@davidmenasco5743]

I would be very interested to see a study on tire wear across all power trains, normalized/controlled for vehicle acceleration, and driving style.

[@1964mcqueen]

@@davidmenasco5743 I think its the same factors as always: proper tire pressure, alignment and driving style.

[@jeffbransky7966]

Some SS panels on the Cybertruck do have a tan patina which could be called rust. You can see that the panels do not match in many photos because some panels do not have the patina. Maybe it’s because some coils of material were more exposed to the elements before manufacturing. At any rate, on KZbin, Out of Spec Detailing demonstrated how to clean off the patina with Bar Keeper’s Friend. The Cybertruck panels will probably require periodic maintenance to keep them looking brand new (actually better than new lol). I imagine some owners will be less diligent in maintaining a patina free finish. No big deal if all the panels have a slight tan finish over time, as long as they match.

[@ouch1011]

If the driver of the Tesla was drunk, I think we know exactly why it crashed. No form of driver assist is a replacement for a driver. I had a couple of days experience with the latest FSD Beta (in a loaner Model 3, no less) and it is absolutely horrifying to me that people trust that to drive them around completely unmonitored. I had to intervene at least 10 times over 2 days of driving. The missing crash data is suspect though.

[@robertkirchner7981]

It did the worst possible thing at the worst possible time, just like Tesla promises.

[@JohnReiher]

The only e-bikes that you need to worry about are those with a throttle and "pedals" that are not geared. AKA a Moped with just enough "bicycle" to be a Moped and not a scooter.

[@HenryLoenwind]

Pretty sure that car was bought with the FSD option, but that doesn't mean it was installed. Especially not back then, when you needed a safety score of 100 to have a chance to get into the beta.

[@scottmcshannon6821]

most drunks wouldnt get a score of a hundred.

[@desertdan100]

It isn't rusting like mild steel, it is staining and discoloring. We are not talking about a wrap. SS will react with some chemicals and materials.

[@alanb76]

Maybe opening the driver (or perhaps any) door should cut the electric motor?

[@Realciderreviews]

What a lovely outro. ❤

[@davidreadbikes]

Hi Nikki, seems like Aptera is getting a bit closer to production - are you still a reservation holder? I think we are getting ready to order one. Value you opinion before we do. Thanks!

[@Hans-gb4mv]

There's no reason to leave the reservation queue, at the end it was only $100. I'm still in the queue for whenever it comes to Europe, but I am thinking about skipping out of it in the end. They've made some design choices over the years that I'm not happy with, like the placement of the digital mirrors and the move from a wheel to something like a yoke. And it still remains to be seen where they will place the CCS port for us Europeans.

[@MarcGXE95]

I'm wondering if the Cybertruck's stainless is passivated? 🤔

[@msbgone]

Seriously the BZ4X does not put it in to Park automatically when the door is opened? Don't Tesla and other ICE cars for this. I swear my 10 year old Bimmer does this....

[@geirmyrvagnes8718]

When I stop the car and open the driver door, it goes into Park. I don't see any obvious downsides to that compared to the car driving off into the sea, so that is a free software upgrade tip to Toyota.

[@Hans-gb4mv]

Many modern cars do that, I'm surprised Toyota doesn't

[@geirmyrvagnes8718]

@@Hans-gb4mv I would say, because in their minds "Park" is a lever moving mechanical bits around and *kachunk* you are in the mechanical state of a parked car. Not "Park" is a software setting, because a car in 2024 is essentially a computer on wheels.

[@jamesvandamme7786]

@@geirmyrvagnes8718 Toyota is years behind in technology. And EVs suck, just look at theirs! Proof!

[@jamesphillips2285]

6:30 The irony of the footage supplied by Joby Aviation featuring trains: the medium-haul flight killer. E-VTOL crafts will not be used for long-haul flights (unless Solid state batteries get really good).

[@jessebrook1688]

I caught that, too, but don't worry, Dubai is immune to better solutions right under their noses. Just look at The Line.

[@TaiViinikka]

Will E-VTOL even be used for medium-haul flights? Toronto-to-Montreal looks to be out of reach for the next couple decades at least. I think the point of that footage linking passenger trains and the Joby air taxi was that the train would bring you the few hundred kilometers of a city-to-city trip, and the E-VTOL would mean you didn't have to deal with city ground traffic. To me it seems wrong-headed -- just do city transit better? -- but I'm not an oil prince.

[@robertkirchner7981]

@@TaiViinikka The "just add one more lane" philosophy has already filled up the ground, so now it's taking over the sky.

[@georgepelton5645]

I thought the Chevy Equinox was supposed to have a $30k MSRP when it was announced, not $35k. However, that might have been for a lower range version than what is available at launch.

[@casychapin4647]

Its nice to hear relatively good news that doesnt involve who will be the next president

[@Bryan46162]

There is a simple solution to the 'rust' problem: Pay another $5000-$8000 to have the vehicle wrapped.

[@williambasinger5859]

I have a spoiler alert for you. Stainless steel is exactly what it says it it is.. It is STAINLESS. That means it is less staining. It doesn’t mean it won’t rust. It won’t rust as fast as mild steel. It will still have rust and pitting over time. Just not as rapidly as unprotected mild steel does. So even with rust spots on stainless steel it will lest far longer the mild steel will exposed to the elements. Think of it as patina.

[@lm3718]

Love the Brienne of Tarth accent ❤

[@felderup]

some grades of stainless steel... throw brine at it, it shrugs it off, a sprinkle of clean water and it's a mess. the epa can be blamed for all the clean water falling from the sky, it would be various shades of searing acid if not for them and the cybertruck would be 'pretty' for its lifetime.

[@arendadadovanbeek6335]

Before wachting the vid I would say that that is metal grinding residu that started to rust. now let's see what you think. "presses play"

[@falxonPSN]

Nikki, you guys rock! Keep up the awesome content, and we love you too! ❤

[@ejd1984]

Nikki, respectfully I disagree with your thoughts that the Chrysler Halcyon will not inspire an EV sedan. With the Dodge Charger EV coming later this year, I suspect there will be 4-door Chrysler sedan not long after. Much like with this ICE Charger and 300 today.

[@jenkinseric2]

I find that so much of my Kia Soul software is easter eggs. search around long enough and I can get the car to do what it should.

[@richardprzybylski3859]

Please test a cyber truck. Your unbiased perspective plus owning a Ford Lightning, would give us an informed viewpoint

[@transportevolved]

Tesla won’t give us one to test, obviously.

[@robertkirchner7981]

Back when the "EV" community was relatively small, Nikki once asked Elon Musk a fair but mildly challenging question. You know, like an informed journalist would. Elon Musk remembers, and Elon Musk holds grudges. Tesla will not be loaning Transport Evolved any vehicles to test. Oh yeah... Elon Musk also has contempt for transpeople. Elon Musk is a bad person.

[@richh650]

One can never forget about Wally World... lol

[@StormyDog]

Unlike Toyotas, Tesla cars automatically put the car in Park mode when opening the driver's door. Safety.

[@urbanspaceman7183]

Glad I don't need to only keep my diesel between 20% and 80%

[@user-xj5xp6qz5g]

Imagine trusting anything WSJ says about tesla LOL!

[@peterscott2662]

It's probably just "Rail Dust". If you've ever owned a white car, you've probably seen it. It isn't the car rusting. It's iron particle sticking to the paint (Stainless in this case), that are rusting. I had a white car and noticed the little orange spots. Normal washing wouldn't clean them. I used something like Iron X to dissolve them: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iXi1i4aKj5JlqtE

[@douggoodman3914]

I wonder if Nikki has thought of wearing short shorts during her short shorts?

[@gerrypower9433]

So are there any consumer hydrogen stations in the USA? Except Torrence of course.

[@CaptainXJ]

@20:50 HOW? EV's dont move unless you're pressing the gas. Unless someone made an option that they do, then that is a horrible option!

[@robertkirchner7981]

Some EVs are programmed to "creep" forward when the foot is removed from the brake, in the manner of a car with an automatic transmission. Or maybe it was downhill? Bodies of water tend to be.

[@CaptainXJ]

The first thing is incredibly moronic. The second makes way more sense, shame the regenerative braking didnt stop it also.@@robertkirchner7981

[@buixote]

I wish Wallbox would hurry up with its V2H solution.

[@TassieEV]

Halcyon will get built just not in your country more likely in Europe and other markets with less SUV mindset.

[@drewsmith7726]

Give me CarPlay/AndroidAuto and I would maybe consider the Equinox.

[@andrasbiro3007]

That reliability survey is dubious. Logically hybrids should be the least reliable as they need both powertrains to work to be usable. And studies so far showed the same thing. And recently the media started to aggressively push hybrids again, because the legacy automakers can't sell their EVs. This coincidence is too convenient .

[@bobbbobb4663]

Bossman’s cost cutting genius! CybeRust!

[@KoRntech]

I'm awaiting the next Thunderf00t chuckle on this Hyperloop like fiasco.

[@andyroid7339]

I always enjoy TEN but my impression is how far behind the crest, the U.K. is. I base this opinion purely on the number of TEN reports which relate to the U.K. (I appreciate that the show is U.S. orientated) compared to the news from the rest of the world and from other news sources. Am I wrong? Is there an ulterior reason that the U.K. lags behind?

[@petervalk9997]

Yeah a Ev charging station witch excepts cash too next to plastic app nightmare

[@mb-3faze]

21:00 - the toyota prizm driving itself into the ocean... FFS - put a sensor on the drivers seat and if there is no driver then don't move! This is a blinding obvious safety issue. I know many manufactures are happy for their cars to move when no-one is sitting in the driver's seat but toyota seem to be the worst. Their Priuses do this too. It's so stupid.

[@user-uj5kn6co5q]

Just wait until the owners want to get dents repaired.....LOL Cannot pound it , put body filler and paint it. The whole panel will need to be replaced or metal finished back to the raw metal finish....LOL

[@erktrek]

Ouch, attack of the BusyForks - Tesla will auto-engage park to prevent rollaway when a door is opened like that - assumed others did the same as well.

[@devenscience8894]

Yeah, that's an odd thing to happen for an EV. My Rivian autolocks to "hold" if stopped for more than a couple of seconds, and won't move until you step on the accelerator.

[@ouch1011]

Most EVs do the same

[@donaldburkhard7932]

Just put protective coating on truck just like on cars.

[@Pottery4Life]

If cyber truck uses a 300 series low carbon stainless steel, then most likely the metal itself will be fine and what is being seen is some oxidation of some surface contamination. Not sure 300 series steel they use. ???

[@KoRntech]

But it's a magic special blend Tesla only stainless that will break the stamping machines according to the smartest man in any room, anywhere. 😅😅😅

[@avsystem3142]

I don't recall the alloy designation but it isn't a 300 series SST. Even high chromium 316 SST will discolor when exposed to acids and bases but won't actually rust. I think the generally public generally conflates any discoloration or staining of metals with "rust", even though it isn't.

[@userOSBERT]

LMFAO - HIGH MAINTENANCE !!!!

[@danielmcalpine3416]

i like the idea of kids over 12 doing some kind of online course for safety. Seems like piles of kids got ebikes for christmas here in australia. I imagine there has been an increase in emergency room visits as a result. It's awesome that kids can get out and about, far better than sitting in a cave gaming too much, but given the younger ones are not very risk averse, probably good that the grown ups set some perameters for safety.

[@theairstig9164]

What about drunk idiots ploughing in to the side of pizza delivery cars? Should they do a skills course too?

[@danielmcalpine3416]

​@@theairstig9164What are you saying?. We make sure all drunk idiots take a safety course?? is that the same as kids taking a safety course?? Don't think so. How about the drunk idiots learn from the injury or paying for the damage or from the fine.

[@Roddy451]

Galvanic corrosion...

[@davidmccarthy6061]

Right, just the metals ratio used. That's why it's called stain-less and not stain-never.

[@Roddy451]

@@davidmccarthy6061 I see plenty of rusty and decayed stainless steel in my line of work (316, 312, 304, and the "L" variants, etc.)

[@transportevolved]

Galvanic corrosion would require other metals…

[@Roddy451]

@@transportevolved, do you mean the different kinds of steel particles all over our roadways and environment? That is the particulate attached to the truck's skin (you can also see it on the clear coat of other vehicles). Once it attaches, you can't stop the electrical reaction since there is NO clear coat. If the particle weakens the chromium oxide protective layer of the stainless steel, it will corrode faster. Since the truck has no clear coat, it is making direct contact.

[@chow-chihuang4903]

Steel is an alloy of multiple metals, so local galvanic corrosion is always a possibility.

[@dcvariousvids8082]

It’s with great sadness & concern, that I hear the report of EV resources around the cost of California. As you just know, the government will promise much to Native Americans - with every intention of breaking all of those promises. And in the many decades to come, will eventually and begrudgingly apologise about any wrongdoing. However, the damage will be done and any financial recompense due, will never fully be paid, if at all. And one way or another, the succession of non-Native American governments, that hold sway twix now and then, will put the blame on the Native Americans themselves.

[@RedRouge-j4j]

Sure Stainless Steel can rust, it depends on the alloy. And it also depends on salt. I doubt Tesla knows full well the warning, and would have done the metallurgy and the tests. Do bugs contain salt? Where are the entomologists when you need them.................