Transport Fever 2 - Ep 13 - Emissions

[@UselessWeeb]

feel free to make these hour long episodes every time, lovin the longer episodes

[@wellsilver3972]

He sued to do nothing but the multi hour long episodes, but the he said "I ran out of things to talk about"

[@Luckyluc2911]

Squirrel, you hazelnut you have connected the pax line with the track on the cargo platform. You missed the inside and outside when rotating the camera view with 180 degrees

[@scooter21ba]

first thing i noticed :D

[@baseballboy4494]

yep! I also first thing I notice lol

[@Viper607706]

A bit late but... 14 Passengers on a bus vs 23 on the tram, tram has less Emissions, meaning less emissions per passenger transported. Speed also doesn't really matter that much inside a city given that the city speed limits are lower anyway. so I'd say trams are indeed the better option for intracity transport, Intercity however buses rule supreme til you get to trains.

[@JRandomRU]

In trams vs buses you forgot that (a) trams can take more people (especially relatively early in the game - around 1910-1920 bus will be able to take what, 8 people? while tram will take 20) and (b) traffic doesn't go fast in cities anyway. So you will need less trams than buses to satisfy intracity passenger demand.

[@rambobannana]

Man, nothing is better then getting into pajamas and coming home to another road to 1 billion, after a day of high-level engineering classes and a 20 minute walk in the pouring rain without an umbrella. Thanks for the relaxation squirrel :)

[@Kurock1000]

You deserve more upvotes.

[@Galerak1]

Wouldn't it be better to come home AFTER getting into pyjamas? That way you don't have to sit around in soggy pyjamas.... and you don't get so many funny looks while walking home 😉😂🤣😂

[@rambobannana]

@@Galerak1 rereading this, I see my mistake lol

[@Kurock1000]

@@Galerak1 No no, you change on the train, no one would notice anyway, and why waste valuable time you could be watching youtube changing?

[@TheSultan1470]

@@Galerak1 Hahahahhahah

[@jampetable]

You would think that older vehicles become more unreliable and lose performance (top speed, acceleration) as they get older which would be a bigger incentive to replace vehicles or increase maintenance than emissions only. Strange that the game doesn't simulate that. Maybe in Transport Fever 3 :)

[@gamersamandjosh738]

3 no no no I am happy with 2

[@Ortorin]

Looks like you got about 30k people hooked on this series. I think that's great for a game like this. Keep up the good work!

[@Punnikin1969]

While you were explaining the emissions issue, I started thinking about something. The way you have been managing cities so far is to supply them with goods, wait until they grow, then setting up public transport once they're established and growing. It's working well, obviously, but I would like to suggest a slightly different approach as an experiment. Find a small city that you haven't yet begun to supply. Initiate a public transport system first, making sure to maximize coverage of not only the center of the city, but future city expansion. If it means building roads beyond the current city limits, that means better future coverage as it grows. This way, you can design the streets your public transport will use with minimal impact on the city structure, but also guarantee you can have the most efficient route laid out. Wide streets, bus lanes (or trams if you wish) and as the city expands, all you would have to do is make sure the stops cover all 3 types of city sector. This would also allow you to make efficient routes for the supply of goods as well as city to city transport when it becomes viable. Since the three city sectors rarely overlap, judging the expansion of those areas would be easy enough to be able to plan transport expansions without interfering with residential areas. I believe that having an established inner-city passenger route early on would make a large positive impact upon expansion once your supply of goods is in place. It just seemed logical to me to support the early growth of a city as much as possible and make it easier to further that growth later on. Let the city build around your plans instead of the opposite. Edited for silly mistakes. Removal, not added. Hopefully.

[@fredmercury1314]

34:02 Just make a shorter diamond. Track speed on the diamond is irrelevant when they're entering/exiting a station.

[@mickyboymick5210]

Thank you again for a most interesting video and for highlighting that there is much more to this game than just transporting people and goods around a map. Excellent!

[@fishpop]

I think the Loughton/Mablethorpe connection should've been "underslung, like you suggested at 21:18, so the tracks wouldn't pass right by the cities, wouldn't hamper city growth & would require less tunnelling.

[@TheRockofEasyCo]

I've noticed in the route manager, that you can see the "rate". That should tell you much you're moving per cycle. I look at it to make sure a town's demand is being meant and not exceeded by too much. It's especially helpful after doing a big upgrade like you're about to do with the MAN trucks and eventually the Semi trucks. At least in theory.

[@chaoswarriorbr]

Emissions in this game are so weird. I get that trams have noise polution, but even that is smaller then buses, not to mention they're electric not Diesel powered. Also, as the vehicle condition degrades it should increase emissions and running costs, not to mention increase times, since they run poorly and start to break up. I think they should consider some of the Cities: Skylines for noise and air polution, but with a fleet management mechanic, with all the wearing down and such. This would make for such a robust and interesting gaming experience, at least for a harder dificulty.

[@stefanblackadder5236]

I’m a bus driver in Seattle so this series is interesting and fun to watch.

[@SuperSaiyanLuke]

I love how squirrel is like”sorry I got a bit distracted there”. So what you need to do is …smooth that out”

[@Name-yb7hn]

18:26 you can actually see what cities private vehicles go by choosing the destination city from the button that says “all” on the destination information on the left.

[@CobetcknnKolowski]

The boat pollution comment made me want a series where you have one or a few extra large cities where you can fit canals to have boats moving through.

[@lawrencemills6674]

Yes! Hour long episodes. Thank you Squirrel. Been watching your channel for about 6 years now!

[@572Btriode]

I believe you can "train" your cities Mr. Squirrel, just delete the odd bits of residential in the industrial/commercial areas and vice versa, soon grows back and the AI seems to get the idea then. Good series and very enjoyable and informative analysis.

[@devD1967]

Thanks for making these a tutorial in addition to a let's play. I appreciate it.

[@Nic0maK]

1 tram vehicule may replace several buses though

[@LNZT]

Yay, amazing work putting out videos all the time and spending your time on it!

[@Matty12787]

Just curious, what do you mean by pacs as i googled it and it is for signalling control? 24:25 Pacs will just appear out of here effectively. Also what does conmat mean? I've worked for many different industries including concreting and have never heard that term..? From what i googled it is a group of people who are apart of a council of people in the concreting world..? Very confused on what your saying..

[@Vimpmeat]

Pax, short for passenger. Conmat, short for construction materials (the red bricks in game).

[@Matty12787]

@@Vimpmeat Ahh, i understand now... Had no idea it was spelt pax and still unsure how that means passenger but conmat makes sense...

[@kevinbarnett3388]

Thank you for a great series - please keep them coming

[@Schmorgus]

Swapping buses with trams, would improve emission, because trams take more people and therefor you don't need as many trams as you need buses.

[@SaberKittyZero]

But muh max speed!

[@dukctape]

@@SaberKittyZero 70 kmh on a city road lmao

[@SaberKittyZero]

@@dukctape yeah a few km vs double the passenger capacity.

[@downT0wn]

great series! looking forward to each new episode

[@josefwinkler3032]

I'm absolutely loving this series, and also the longer episodes! Can you please make another series like this!? With more modern transport!?

[@Elunegeloj]

Under road tools, there is an upgrade tool for adding bus lines to the existing roads without changing their width...I am sure you know about that, but just as a reminder :D

[@ranosian1135]

37:25 How long before squirrel relises the second passenger line connects to a cargo line?

[@astrosteve]

I'ma moderately experienced TF2 player (maybe 80 to 90 hours) and I knew almost none of that about emissions. I thought the only think to really do about them was make sure train stations and airports weren't too close. I had no idea it only affected residential areas. Great video!

[@truckinghoppy9000]

Really enjoying the series thanks squirrel

[@thegodlessvulcan]

Re: Airports. Haven't messed too much with aviation, but maybe start growing cities from earliest start date to get cities with large enough pop to utilize air connections. Least that's my working plan when game comes back in rotation for me.

[@tippy5358]

No need to go off camera when you're rerouting all the bus stops. Record it, timelapse it, speak over it. Give me my hour of therapy thank you very much.

[@gg.youlubeatube6249]

People car dont make polution. Only yours vehicles do. (Dont make sense, but it is how designer created it.)There is another number - public transport quality - which is related to improving (reducing) number of cars on streets.

[@stefanblackadder5236]

Still loving this series!!!!

[@hammerdgaming]

I really love the content and regularity of these vids!! Please keep it going!!!!

[@sweetlemonade123]

You should try Workers & Resources: Soviet Republic. It's like a more depressing transport fever made by communists. But the music is awesome :)

[@tranquility7692]

Its a mix between cities skylines and transport fever just a lot more in depth.

[@butterwipe8216]

That sounds cool yeah, he should try it

[@trainzmarcel2074]

i very much recommend it, comrade

[@hamza-8978]

i was about to buy that game a few months ago but when i saw the trailer i was like this is a very sad and dark game nah but now its very tempting so yeah im gonna buy it now

[@DJSubzNZ]

Although the ‘the game doesn’t care about emissions’ it could be interesting to consider them regardless of zoning. This would bring increased complexity and difficulty increasing costs, making a billion is going to happen easily.

[@TheChillimouse]

I love these episodes what I usually do is let my vehicles get bad. and if I do not want to replace them yet. I put maintenance up for a period of time until they are good again. then just turn it back to normal and they are good for a few more years

[@adithyaradhakrishnan730]

You can just create one pax line between Laughton and Thatcham. It will increase the public transport connectivity and will grow all three cities

[@Shadow.Darkraven]

bout 49:00 deleting that road and then the AI of the city as soon as you upgrade the main road instantly replaces the one you deleted lmao

[@ViktorVonfuling]

That other train at 41:10, the “mirage’, throughout the whole video you haven’t acknowledged its existence. Not when you unlocked it and not even when looking through your options. Is it just that bad that you’re not gonna bother with it?

[@hypedupwolf2453]

loving the series, can't wait for the airports

[@baseballboy4494]

35:31 , maybe a road bridge across the tracks?

[@isaacknecht974]

got no school this Friday. Time to settle down with a mug of tea and watch another great episode

[@itstim2105]

I crave more Transport Fever 2 videos. It, along with My Summer Car, are my two favorite series you’ve made

[@xathylos]

Oh boy how was I excited for this, and as for as of now it doesn’t disappoint

[@SpyGeorgilis]

I came here for the flightsim videos. So why am I hooked to this, that I didn't even know existed 2 weeks ago??

[@skylark1024]

One of the Loughton's bus stop bothers me alot lol. The right bus stop forces the city bus line to go round the block. Shift that stop on the main road so that bus doesn't need to go round whole block pls xD

[@blankblank9904]

ok so u say the small amount of lesser emission of trams aint worth that much... But i think they are still superior to current mc benz. less emmision, more passenger, there dont need to be taht many on the street, decreasing traffic and they dont cost much more than bus. In addition u can ignore the 10 km/h diffrence, considering they cant get up to 70 in a city anyway. Also, this might be because im located in berlin, trams are just way better than busses :P. In the end u do u, just wanted to mention it

[@SonicSpeed0705]

Imagine if, as a vehicle's condition got worse, its performance got worse. As in it takes longer to reach top speed and top speed gets decreased.

[@AlexJeffDust-RenAzuma66]

Instead of an X (diamond crossing), try to do a \ / crossing where you just seperate the two sides. That's how it is mostly done IRL these days on higher speed lines, and fixes it from not working

[@punyopussang3017]

Four Buildings destroy. Let's go

[@ranosian1135]

Yes. Trams look cooler than buses

[@arturbaluyev2873]

You can simply make streets under the railway so the city could develop on the other side of the tracks

[@sicot10]

What If you do the layout of all train tracks already, in prep to connect all cities together? And replace all useful roads with the high speed version? Call if future proofing Do you Have an option to prevent the city from building on places you don't want. Saves the slap lol

[@Frankestein01nl]

Would be lovely, if they brought back the breakdowns because of poor maintenance/replacements, like in transport tycoon. (tycoon, wasnt it?) Great episodes, nice explanations... keep up the good work! Btw, does a depot inside the city maybe have a bigger catchment than the truckstops? If you build the road under or over the trainlines, cities will expand beyond your trainborders.

[@grillmaster0150]

I love this series its super good

[@fredmercury1314]

Can you guide city growth by feeding supplies to parts of areas in a city and starving other areas? So like, delivering fuel to only part of the area that needs fuel, and making the city expand in a specific direction?

[@sagaanother7371]

GSP beograd "just completely ignore it" 😂

[@sxonty711]

Love this series

[@Galerak1]

Handy hint - When manually upgrading your roads in the cities for your bus routes, flick 'player ownership' on. I did this in my cities a few weeks ago, cost a fortune, and then noticed the AI was changing some of them back again.

[@calvindoornbos332]

Please continue to make more of these episodes. Can you take it to 1 trillion?

[@boris4184]

I really think they need to change the way vehicle condition works. Having breakdowns for poorly maintained equipment should be a thing to force the use of maintenance, and to consider replacing vehicles regularly as in real life. Vehicle condition could also influence the chance that someone wants to use that service, especially for public transport vehicles. I wouldn't want to get in a 50 yr old bus covered in dirt.

[@Spotless-guy]

Guys you need to place buss station in the middle of every area, and to place them where u see high private transport

[@YoloHoboGaming]

I need to get on your level bro! Good job!

[@gabeteuton]

the game is gonna go like "this is making a lot of noise, emm, and etc, emissions" hahahaha

[@benbaselet2026]

I noticed you tend to not build train stations with the street access bits at all, is that intentional? (little gray archway and clock symbol on the buildings)

[@subhakargogoi8398]

Love watching you play. Waiting for more videos. Feel free to make little longer videos 😊

[@LeonidSaykin]

So we agree, that replacing a vehicle is much better, you will get a faster bus with more people inside of it. even your trucks will get a bonus. Are you sure you don't want to take Mirage?

[@allie-873]

Am I the only person infuriated by him not using the RABde12/12? It's capacity is way higher and the speed is the same

[@NilsTillander]

Why not connecting the passenger line all the way Loughton-Maperthorp-Thatcham? Or even further? Do smaller A-B lines perform much better?

[@Masked_Dude11]

12:54 why did that building collapse!?

[@jayamd3579]

iv learnt not to build the depot first, build the track out to a Y first then connect the train depot, thats my only tip for this game xD

[@pecky7989]

Loved the longer episode

[@blitzsmart5737]

Can you use the cinematic camera more often It will look more immersive

[@theghostedflame2690]

I’m really interested to see how the planes work in this game. Hopefully you get that going soon!

[@spacecow240]

That train line is put on the cargo platform it’s really bothering

[@nathanwoods5274]

I love these videos! Keep it up

[@MrPapanunz]

Squirrel i subbed at first or second episode an man im loving it even at work ill watch 10mins of the video an try and finish it that night. i dont have a pc but would love to play this game please please please keep bringing out more episodes of TF2 and others because TF2 is why i subbed but have been watching many of your videos previously before id seen you had this TF2 challenge going.👌👌❤

[@CornWolf]

I am absolutely loving this series. One randomly started playing on KZbin and then I was like I need this and following this like a guide. Is there much of a difference between the different regions you can load up or is it just cosmetic?

[@aashishneupane9787]

U need to put a headquater and make it so it upgrades to max

[@baseballboy4494]

It would be cool if placed in a city near a major hub.

[@Konusu]

I'm trying to get rid of emssions in my cities. Would using Electric vehicles going around the city be a good idea?

[@Spotless-guy]

42:23 whi not just doing a single line with 3 stations?

[@jackmcclure3523]

Im keen to get closer to the 2000’s

[@RailfanJackProductions]

It's thanks to your planning on how to build up town's I started doing on my plays through for myself.

[@johnbendert87]

Great videos! I have a question: why point-to-point services rather than a network serving multiple towns?

[@benbaselet2026]

Buses are pretty meh, at least in the early 1900s. Trams are so much better capacity, speed and emissions I just build them between cities even when I don't need an actual train.

[@dukctape]

you unlock a two car EMU and instead purchase two one car EMUs... large brain moves

[@christopherknight1851]

run out of time? just make then two hrs long and the problem will be solved. i love these videos, and i'm thinking about getting this game because of them. thanks for your time in making these vid's great work!!!

[@BumyMobile]

Lets gooo, I knew it was coming so I was refreshing for almost an hour now

[@parisleung911]

Is road tunnel always better than road bridge when crossing over railway? It seems that road tunnel is usually more expensive than bridge.

[@heavyharris5580]

41:00 Drove me crazy that you just ignored the mirage :(

[@Petri_Pennala]

Feel free to make longer episodes🤩

[@timohuhnholz]

Heh, J-Slab isn't just Japanese! We use it here in Germany too

[@fetzie23]

So if, as in your case, your buses are going from 81 emissions to 73 by upgrading/higher maintenance, the best you can hope for is a 10% reduction in emissions, and re-routing would be a far better investment?

[@Vimpmeat]

This may seem strange, but you are not to compare the number to 0. Emissions only start having a negative impact over 50. So 73 vs 81 is essentially the difference between 23 vs 31. So an 8 point difference is actually fairly significant.

[@fetzie23]

@@Vimpmeat The game really could do with explaining its systems better 😟

[@Vimpmeat]

@@fetzie23 no argument there.

[@masongriffin-wakefield8389]

PUT FLYING SCOTSMAN doing a mablethorpe to henley on thames a express service also get a A4 on it as the express services for passengers

[@EmilJorgensen05]

Great video! :)

[@georgeratcliffe7752]

When you have finished, can you do some before and after images of the cities to show their development and growth?

[@Spotless-guy]

41:04 whi every person I see playing this game will always ignore the “mirage”?!